Kabbalah – United souls create a unified consciousness? Conception and reincarnation and understanding the parts of the NRN
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Hello Rabbi!
I wanted to ask the Rabbi Shlita (and perhaps the late Rabbi Shlita, according to the Ship of Theseus in Changes of Opinion, etc.), a question. I understood that according to Kabbalah (or at least according to certain methods), there are concepts such as reincarnation and transmigration:
And let’s assume that the person who feels and experiences in the simple levels is described by the term soul, and this is the fundamental element of the living being. But on top of this description, we add that it is possible for there to be several souls or sparks that will incarnate in a kind of compound in a single person. Or as we put it, the term soul fertilization, that a soul that is not part of the original person will incarnate in him during his life or for certain moments. (Although there is some room for disagreement because soul is a high level and therefore it is ostensibly something trivial for a person).
And now, I know the Rabbi’s interpretation of the Baal Tanya method with the studies that investigate in the Mishnah of the Baal Tanya where exactly “man” is placed according to his method. So for example, the divine soul and the animal soul are parts of the same “man” and compose him. Therefore, the search between the entity and what composes it creates confusion for some. Because the compositions are part of the entity. And not according to Leibniz’s principle of the identity of the indistinguishable.
But I wanted to ask, if we assume that several souls reincarnate into one person, how could this explain the unity of consciousness . Which is one of the most important and powerful evidences of philosophers for dualism and the acceptance of the soul as a relatively “unitary” thing. (Or at least not composed of many people…).
And here I do think that the question arises as to who that “person” is, and the Rabbi’s excuse in Baal Tanya will not be helpful in this regard. And here it sounds really, really unlikely.
And along the way, I would be happy if the rabbi could bring to mind (or point to) a place that explains the relationships between the parts of the NRN, and in particular how each part of a language is composed of or can be combined with parts of other “people.” Because simply when I heard these things, they seemed very puzzling to me, and even when I discussed them with people who are supposed to understand, they seemed to “accept” these things and less to try to bring them to mind.
PS
The relationship between different souls and compounds of the unity of consciousness appears on the one hand as an emergent principle brought forth by the materialists, but it does seem to have a drawback because each soul must be understood as something that feels in the present, and not feels in a connected way.
I don’t think I know how to explain things like that. Details are missing here. What happens at the time of conception? Does the other soul connect to the existing one or replace it? Is the soul what contains our memories and values and all of that changes, or is it something else, more sided? And maybe it’s the object that contains the memories and values (just the frame).
In short, these are vague talks that I see no point or value in engaging in. No one really knows what’s going on there, or if anything like that is happening at all, and these are just empty, empty rumors.
As I understand it regarding the initial questions,
In the process of fertilization, the additional and original soul in any case does not change. Perhaps a higher fertilization may be added to it before it has achieved soul, but I do not know.
Just as I said, it is possible for a person's head to be composed of several souls (for example, in reincarnation). But how does this fit with the unity of consciousness!?!
Most of those I spoke to explain that the higher attainments, such as soul, etc., are expressed in a feeling of motivation and desire to do spiritual things. Just as a person who prepares himself for prayer in the Shabbat reception receives an additional soul, and therefore his prayer looks different. Or a person suddenly received great powers to do something that he was unlikely to have done in the past, it turns out that something external has been fertilized in him. And it seems that a soul is a desire for something (perhaps spiritual motivation and realizations, but in any case it contains less of our memories).
In general, it seems that they explain human "phenomena" by using entities. And a change in human experience sometimes also includes an entity change. I think the rabbi mentioned that this is not customary in our modern times, which is explained by theoretical forces and things. And not by real entities - (like the “power” of attraction).
Even those I spoke to simply claim that the Kabbalah can see in a person the root of his soul or what is going on in him, etc.
Regarding the rabbi's claim that he does not see value in this, I suppose that if they see some truth in it, then perhaps there is interest in studying it. And especially that it is Torah study.
And as for these fatumiers who are just saying it, it does not seem reasonable to me. There are people who invest their entire lives in these issues and not a single word of advice. But my feeling is that when I spoke to people who have only been involved in these topics for a few years (say 10 years or more) and who undoubtedly know a lot of writings and approaches on the subject, I did not come away with a clear feeling that they do have an understanding of the terms they use and the basic definitions. Or how close they are to understanding it. But on the other hand, in the natural sciences too, it seems that many terms are used without definition and are worked with, such as energy or forces. And most of the “experts” in the field do not seem to have a particularly deep understanding of these terms. Except for describing relationships or equations versus describing the essence.
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