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Kaplan protest

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asked 11 months ago

In several places you wrote that the Kaplan protest shot itself in the head or escalated its messages against the government or against Netanyahu and therefore lost you and many others. I did not find a partial breakdown of these extreme acts that you referred to. What typical examples illustrate your claim against them?


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מיכי Staff answered 11 months ago
Countless examples. If you don’t see this alone, the talk is unnecessary. The wild and baseless slanders against the government in every area, such as continuing the war without reason. The presentation of the reform as a national disaster that destroys democracy without reason. The exploitation of the kidnapped for their political needs. Every nonsense becomes a disaster and destruction. I am in constant dialogue with some of the brothers-in-arms and I tell them this all the time. They have succeeded in creating public alienation from the kidnapped.

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שואל replied 11 months ago

Thanks for the answer, but I would appreciate it if you could provide some examples of the cases you are referring to. For example, what specific statements or actions by the Kaplan protesters (those who reflect an inclusive mindset among them) do you think created the alienation you mentioned?

מיכי Staff replied 11 months ago

I see no point in discussing it. I'm done.

שואל replied 11 months ago

I wasn't trying to start a debate, but rather to understand the basis of things in order to examine them myself. Why don't you see any point in that?

מיכי Staff replied 11 months ago

Because I answered what I had. I don't see any point in continuing.

שואל replied 11 months ago

It is important for me to emphasize that I am interested in understanding the matter. In your words, you mentioned “wild and baseless slanders against the government, such as continuing the war without reason”. In my search online, I did not find such a claim among the Kaplan protest movements.

As an example, on the “Kaplan Force” website, the central message appears: “The greatest failure in Israeli history with over 1,400 murdered, 246 Israelis kidnapped to Gaza, hundreds of thousands of Israelis evacuated from their homes and still with no prospect of returning, we lost the north, we lost the south, the conscription law that breaks records of disengagement, security at an unprecedented low and now – also destroying the economy and relations with the US and Biden. Enough! Put an end to the government of destruction!”

From reading your website, I even get the impression that you identify with these messages yourself. Therefore, I would be very grateful if you could elaborate on what your claim regarding defamation, etc. is based on.

שואל replied 11 months ago

It is clear that you are avoiding substantiating your claims. The minimum required of someone like you who claims to be rational and conducts a fact-based discussion is to present the basis for your sweeping assertions.

אורי replied 11 months ago

I agree with the questioner.
I feel a bit like it's becoming clear that Rabbi Michi is both a human being and is probably influenced by his social identity.
In my opinion, he has crossed the Rubicon on issues of religion and state, but not on the issue of right and left.
On the issue of right and left, he still wears the same glasses as before.
He disdains experts in the field and probably feeds off the handful of experts on the right who don't see the limitations of the economy, society, foreign relations, manpower, and in general the limitations of power.
They think we are marching towards absolute victory, and if and when we don't get there, they will of course blame the whole world and his wife.
They also almost completely ignore the decision-making processes that are almost non-existent in the current leadership.
I'm very interested in what media outlets Rabbi Michi feeds off and shapes his opinion on the security issue and the hostage deal.

I've been feeling this way for a while, but now the new column that Rabbi Michi wrote about there being no experts on security issues feels really conspiratorial to me.
I'm a little sad because I greatly appreciate Rabbi Michi.

מיכי Staff replied 11 months ago

My condolences.

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