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Morning in the minyan

שו”תCategory: generalMorning in the minyan
asked 4 years ago

Hello Rabbi, I have been trying for some time not to stand up for the minyan prayer. This effort stems mainly from boredom, lack of belief in the need and necessity, and perhaps laziness also plays a significant role.
I usually get up at a time that suits me and pray only the abbreviated version according to the siddur of the R.S.G. for ten minutes and I’m done.
My question is, from a halakhic perspective, how problematic is this? And furthermore, is there a moral problem with me being a yeshiva student who did not get up for prayers? In other words, does part of my delaying my enlistment include a commitment to fulfill all my religious obligations? Even though I am meticulous about the rules and don’t miss almost a minute and even add to them.


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מיכי Staff answered 4 years ago
It doesn’t seem very problematic to me, as long as you say the obligatory parts. The halachic status of praying in a minyan is highly questionable, and I tend to think that it is not an obligation but rather an issue. There is no moral obligation to fulfill all your religious duties, and it is also unclear to what extent you agree that these are indeed duties. You deferred the draft primarily to study and grow in Torah, not to pray.

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בן replied 4 years ago

Thank you Rabbi.
I was thinking of perhaps really studying the issue regarding the halakhic status of praying in a minyan. Can the Rabbi point me to the main and most important sources on the subject?

בן replied 4 years ago

And furthermore, what is the meaning of ”And I tend to think that this is not an obligation but a matter.”? What is the meaning of a matter? What is its status? What is its validity? What is its origin? What is its subject matter?

מיכי Staff replied 4 years ago

I assume that if you search the internet for prayer in minyan you will find references and summaries and sources.
Matter, meaning a good deed that is not a halachic obligation. Its sources can be different. Its validity, there is no such thing (it is not obligatory). Its matter is that it is matter.

סנדומילוף replied 4 years ago

[ We are pushed. Come to prayer like everyone else and open a book (like everyone else). What's the rush? Saying the words doesn't cost much. ]

בן replied 4 years ago

Saying the words costs quite a bit, it can cost you while sleeping, while studying the night before, depending on how alert you are in the morning routine, etc.
And that's still the case on a normal day, in a short time the miserable selichot, prayers to God and to the Lord will come upon us, where I really have no idea what I'll do. Not being unwelcome, being and reading words in a boring siddur is scary, being and reading a book will lead to angry reactions that I really don't have the strength to deal with.

סנדומילוף replied 4 years ago

Well, I'm not interfering in your matter, but from my experiences in prayers, you can greatly enrich your peripheral Torah education. When do you go through all the introductions in the Oitzer? When do you flip through the books to see interesting discussions. When do you study the Bible. And so on and so forth. You get free time without a twinge of conscience. Those whose hearts are like lions learning heavy subjects during prayer are blessed and blessed is their lot, but your people Israel can absorb light things.

סנדומילוף replied 4 years ago

It happened. I slowly deteriorated in the type of materials I allowed myself to read in prayer. One day I was reading a book that was not quite right (Aaron Barak's legal judgment. I was not impressed at all, by the way. The density of information on the Kemer reminds me of Mongolia), someone came up to me, picked up the siddur, grabbed the book from under it, and said to me hostilely (half smiling) "Cover the blood!" I told him "Cover it and it turned out to be exempt" and went back to my Talmud. Angry, tasteless and odorless responses are small money.

י.ד. replied 4 years ago

There are no commandments in holiness, and I was sanctified among the children of Israel?

מיכי Staff replied 4 years ago

Even if there is, there is no obligation to do so. It is an existential mitzvah.

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