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Neither lowering nor raising

שו”תCategory: HalachaNeither lowering nor raising
asked 4 years ago

I saw that you were already asked about this not long ago, but in any case, I didn’t quite understand what you were thinking.
The Shula in Yod Kanah writes in the book of the Mini Israel, and they are those who work for idolatry, or who commit offenses to provoke anger, even if they eat carrion or wear a shaitan to provoke anger; then this is an infidel; and the heretics, and they are those who apostatize in the Torah and prophecy from Israel, used to kill in the Land of Israel. If he had the power to kill with a sword, in public, he would be killed. If not, he would come with lies until he had his death. For example, one of them saw that he had fallen into a well and the ladder was in the well, and he first removed it and said: I am anxious to lower my son from the roof and return him to you, and similar things. He said: (And look at the Hosheen of the Law, sign 555). Converts who would convert themselves to rapists and defile themselves among idolaters to worship idols like them, then they are like converts to provoke anger and would lower them and not raise them.
You wrote that the reality was different. Why assume that they once thought that the G-d of Israel was true and his Torah was true, but I want to be with the poor and mistaken Gentiles, and today the situation is different? Today the situation is different, thanks to them. Today it is very difficult to reach the level of a captive baby. All knowledge is available, a person with a hint of curiosity and honesty is supposed to hear about the Jewish religion, and to the best of my judgment also reach the correct conclusions (keeping the T.O.M.C. of course)
Today’s Dalalshim (at least according to the sample I know…) know that there is a religion, but they don’t have the strength to observe it, nor to inquire. And let’s assume that there is a difference between the periods, who said that this should also affect our attitude towards them? They practically deny the existence of the Creator, the Torah, the prophecy, and the truth of the prophecy of Moses, so why aren’t they considered heretics? Claiming that this is anarchist halakha is fine, but one can say that about all parts of the Shulchan Arba’ah without justification, and join our Dalalshim brothers…


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מיכי Staff answered 4 years ago
A baby who is raped is not related to a lack of knowledge. There is no logic in defining it according to knowledge. A person who knows all of the Torah and also grew up in a religious home, but now learns it like a person who studies Native American culture is strictly a baby who is raped. The relevant question is whether he is raped or not, and this is not determined by one fact or another (like his knowledge). It is determined by awareness, not by knowledge. The claim that if a change is made then nothing remains of the Torah and that the same can be said about the entire Torah is conservative demagogy. Apocalypse now. Every argument must be examined on its own merits. I have presented an incredibly logical argument, and for most of the other parts of the Shulchan Aruch you will not be able to present a similar argument. And for what is – then it is not uncommon to say it there as well. And in general, your complaint is not about me. The Chazo said that today the laws of reprimand and conversion, etc., are not in force because no one knows how to prove it. And so did Rabbi Kook and most of the other poskim who talk about babies who were captured. Is there anyone among the main poskim who believes that these laws that you cited are in force today? So why don’t you ask the same thing about them? What I am claiming is that those poskim mean my interpretation, but some of them are bound by the accepted halakhic terminology and are unaware that the reality today does not fit that terminology. But in my opinion, most of them mean my principle.

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