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asked 5 months ago

In the last lesson of faith, there was a discussion about a complete righteous man who has repented.
It is written that a Baal Teshuvah is better than a complete tzaddik. First of all, it is not clear what is better, but even if we assume that it means better, the Rabbi explained that the reason is because the Baal Teshuvah has the virtue of completion that the complete tzaddik does not. The question is whether this applies only to the length of time the Baal Teshuvah is on the path to becoming a complete tzaddik, and then he has the virtue of completion and when he reaches the stages of a complete tzaddik, he will be equal to a tzaddik who is not a Baal Teshuvah. Or will he always be at a higher level even after he has already completed the path and reached the stages of a complete tzaddik because of the very process he went through that the complete tzaddik did not go through?
Of course, it’s all just a housewarming party, but I just wanted to clarify things. I would appreciate the rabbi’s answers. Thank you very much.

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מיכי Staff answered 5 months ago

Dismissed in my opinion. This question itself is indeed a gibberish that is not even worthy of a housewarming. But those words of mine are not gibberish, but a simple simplification of the Talmudic statement, and the same appears to be true in Sabra. As for your learned question, I suggest that you think for yourself and I am sure that you will reach very profound conclusions.

ינון replied 5 months ago

It seems that the rabbi did not understand my point. I did not mean to belittle the rabbi's words at all. I greatly enjoy the rabbi's lessons and understandings of the Gemara. I apologize if the rabbi understood something else.
What I meant by the digression is that it does not have much practical implications. But it is clearly an interesting thought.
I would be happy if the rabbi would reconsider answering the question or explain to me why it is inappropriate. Thank you

מיכי Staff replied 5 months ago

This has practical implications. In any case, as in every aspect, there is no reason to assume that if I did something valuable, it only counts at the moment of doing it. If the purpose of charity is so that the poor person's condition will improve, does this mean that when he runs out of money there is nothing to appreciate about my actions or that they did not improve my spiritual condition? On the contrary, if anything, then situations and results will be appreciated for the moment they exist, but in the processes their value is less relevant to that moment.

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