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Prayer of desire

שו”תCategory: philosophyPrayer of desire
asked 8 years ago

In the SD
To Rabbi Shalom, I assume that the rabbi is familiar with Rabbi Kook’s approach to prayer. I will present my immature and concise understanding in that his approach sees prayer as influencing the will and thus influencing reality in a spiritual way or directly by changing the person. Thus, the person changes his actions and in turn, reality changes and his request is granted. Did I understand correctly?
A – Have we seen previous sources for this?
B – Would the Rabbi also say about such a prayer that in our time it does not work at all?
C – If you don’t accept this approach, then why? (Not a mandatory clause, simply an option)
With thanks from the head of Judah

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מיכי Staff answered 8 years ago

Hello Yehuda. Anything can be true. The claim that God acts in response to prayer can also be true. What I have against them is that I am not impressed that this is happening.

יהודה סעדיה replied 8 years ago

The fact that you have the impression that this does not happen may be because the understanding of prayer as a request from the ’ to change itself is incorrect, and then prayer really does not work.
But if we look at prayer as the transfer and processing of intellectual knowledge into emotion and from there to a change of will, and from there to a change of human actions in the world, then this approach seemingly seems very rational, and is really supposed to change things in the world, not everything and not in any order of magnitude, but….

ישראל replied 8 years ago

See here:
https://mikyab.net/%d7%91%d7%99%d7%aa-%d7%94%d7%9b%d7%a0%d7%a1%d7%aa-%d7%9b%d7%96%d7%99%d7%a8%d7%aa-%d7%94%d7%98%d7%a4%d7%94-%d7%9c%d7%a7%d7%94%d7%9c-%d7%a9%d7%91%d7%95%d7%99-%d7%9e%d7%91%d7%98-%d7%a0%d7%95%d7%a1/#comment-5511

יהודה סעדיה replied 8 years ago

I read in the past that he talks mainly about synagogue culture and our attitude towards prayer, and not about the objective, "correct" attitude towards prayer in his opinion.

ישראל replied 8 years ago

Sorry, I meant my comment there (the link above leads directly to it).
In short, I wanted to show you that I think like you.

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