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Question about donations and tithes

שו”תCategory: HalachaQuestion about donations and tithes
asked 2 years ago

peace,
I live in a rented house with a tangerine tree that is now ripe.
I never made donations and tithes and thought it was simple.
Then I went online to find out about it and saw that there were all kinds of different formulas and definitions and matters.
I spent about an hour or two understanding all the concepts in the text that is being said and what actually happens when I say the text.
The question is – do I now say the formula and everything is fine and I can eat the fruit, or do I really need to understand in depth?
All the concepts, everything that happens during the text, etc. Because I feel like I understood more or less, but
Not really in depth and to the end, and maybe I didn’t really understand some things correctly.
I’m also a Cohen if that makes any difference.
Thank you very much.


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מיכי Staff answered 2 years ago
You have done more than the average Jew does. If you understand that you are setting aside everything is fine. Pay attention to the grave penny in the second tithe. This is the main obstacle to setting aside by an individual. You can register with various tithe funds that hold grave penny for you. https://din.org.il/2013/01/22/%D7%9E%D7%94%D7%99-%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%98%D7%94-%D7%97%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94/ (Although, a severe penalty does not necessarily have to be a second-degree Torah tithe. Whatever is more severe than what you are doing is sufficient.

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Sometimes there are pictures that explain the text quite well:
I didn't really find it right away, but from what I saw briefly:

http://www.zolsefer.co.il/%D7%9B%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%96%D7%95%D7%9F-%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%A2%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%A8%D7%91-%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%94-%D 7%95%D7%99%D7%90.html

https://mbb.co.il/product/%D7%93%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%99-%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%95%D 7%9E%D7%A2%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%9B%D7%A8%D7%96%D7%94-%D7%9E%D7%A4%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%94/

שאול replied 2 years ago

Hello,
Thanks for the answer.
I didn't understand something.
Let's say I have exactly 100 tangerines of the same weight.
So I take one tangerine and one segment and say:
“Whatever is left over from one hundredth of all that is here, behold, it is a great contribution in its own right”
So now the segment is a great contribution.
Now it remains to set aside the rest of the contributions and tithes.
So I don't understand the next sentence –
“And the one hundredth that remains here”
Why is what I have in my hand “one hundred”? After I set aside a portion for a large donation, the total of the fruits changed, and what I have in hand is a little more than one hundred.
And the continuation of the sentence – “With the sixth part of the same, on the upper side of the other fruits, they are the first tithe”
The first tithe is supposed to be 10 percent of the amount left after the large donation, but according to the text I say 10 percent of the amount that was before the set aside of the large donation.
I would be happy if this could be understood.
Thank you very much

מיכי Staff replied 2 years ago

I don't see what's unclear. Maybe your wording is garbled. See here: https://bhl.org.il/%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%97-%D7%94%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%AA-%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%A2%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA/?gclid=CjwKCAiA1-6sBhAoEiwArqlGPg96UekyVzxh1d5N4kBBKxJsnBcft6RRoSMhVpuE_wW341oslEQDNxoCpFEQAvD_BwE
After a large donation (which is more than one in a hundred, meaning the excess over one Out of a hundred) You have one left out of a hundred.

. replied 2 years ago

Shaul, I sent a link with a slightly different wording, but take a look at this video:

You're talking about minute 3:34.

Your question is about minute 3:38
And also at minute 4:14

The term one out of a hundred that remains here” This is what is written (at minute 4:14): “The hundredth that I mentioned”.
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Regarding the percentages, the explanation is simple to me.
Initially, you create a framework of a “stack of a hundred pieces”. Anything more than a hundred pieces you say is a large donation.
In order not to get into trouble with eating a donation or a tithe donation,
So in advance you actually arrange for there to be a stack of – 99 equal pieces, plus another piece and a little on the side.
This little bit is a big donation.
Anyway, after you set aside a big donation for the little bit, what you have left is one piece. And nine more pieces like it “in a pile” (total 10%).
Then this single piece will be a tithe donation (one piece out of the 10 pieces total of the first estimate, except for the excess in this piece that is already defined as a donation so you “forgot” about it).

It may also confuse you that the first tithe is 10% of all the fruits and vegetables that are left (after setting aside the donation), not from what came before.

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