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Regarding the debate with Yaron Yadan

שו”תCategory: generalRegarding the debate with Yaron Yadan
asked 3 weeks ago

In honor of Rabbi Dr. Michael Avraham, the 16th
Subject: Response to interview
Distinguished guests,
Recently, while browsing YouTube, I came across your debate with Yaron Yadan, which was probably held about a year ago, and I won’t be ashamed because I was heartbroken by it, for the following reasons:
First, it is important to emphasize that on the surface this was a fascinating and highly instructive interview of two educated people from both ends of the religious spectrum on issues of faith that concern each and every one of us.
At the same time, it seems to the court that it would have been better for you to avoid entering into an argument with him , since apart from being a disgrace to you, he had no real value, since in the present case, on the one hand, we are dealing with a first-rate personality who combines Torah and science as one, as you are valued as someone who brought about a revolution in the religious belief and thinking that is accepted today, and on the other hand, you are confronted by an apostate and a heretic for all intents and purposes, who “knows his Lord and intends to rebel against Him ” ​​(Safra Leviticus 26:14). This does not contradict the fact that this is an eloquent and above-average intelligent person…
For the sake of argument, any attempt to raise such an argument is doomed to failure, as we have said, “And know what you will answer Epicurus.Rabbi Yochanan said: We have only said to Epicurus, a Gentile , but to Epicurus, an Israeli, all the more so, he is a fool (Sanhedrin 38:1).
Furthermore, you used correct arguments, but they are extremely complex to understand, and it is important to understand that we are talking here about the average viewer (both religious and secular) who is not part of the academic community and is not privy to the secrets of wisdom and therefore may easily be convinced by Miron Yadan. Furthermore, we must honestly admit that from the point of view of the common man, Yaron Yadan hit you on the shin, no less! For although his arguments were extremely shallow (and that is to say the least…), he used, from his point of view, legitimate and even very logical arguments that are not easy to deal with and can easily cause the weakening and undermining of the faith of many, especially in the younger generation, and I am sure that you did not expect such a result.
In conclusion, it is not for nothing that the Sages exalted the divine commandment , “You shall be blameless with the Lord your God” (Deuteronomy 18:13), for he who believes has no questions, and he who disbelieves will not be helped by any answers, etc.
And I will conclude with a wish for a happy and blessed New Year to you and all the people of Israel, and with a prayer for the end of the war, the recovery of the wounded, and the speedy return of all those kidnapped.
Regards


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מיכי Staff answered 3 weeks ago
Hello. Thanks for the comments. I must say that I disagree with almost all of your claims, and I will explain this briefly. A. In my opinion, Yaron Yadan is not evil and does not know his Lord and rebels against him. This is really what he thinks and these are the conclusions he has reached. The fact that he has Torah knowledge does not make him know his Lord. What is decisive is the understanding that this knowledge is binding. If this understanding does not exist, then even if he is a world-class Torah expert who knows every detail of Halacha and Talmud, he is like a captive infant. From his perspective, Torah knowledge is like the knowledge of a researcher of Native American culture in their culture. B. His comments were relevant to his method, and some of them certainly have some substance. Moreover, many think it is convincing. That is why it is actually important to present the counterarguments and why in my opinion he is wrong. Ignoring them leaves the stage for him and his ilk and leaves the public embarrassed, because the feeling is that there are good arguments there (and indeed there are), and there is no answer to them. By the way, in my opinion, those who usually take the path of ignoring are those who do not have good answers to the questions, and then it is easiest to fortify themselves with quotes that exempt them from addressing the difficulties. If there are any, they must be presented. C. The situation today is that those who respond to these claims are usually very low-level apologists, explainers, or rabbis, and thus the image created on the Internet is of wise men against fools and those without answers. The time has come for intelligent answers to be presented as well, and not to leave the image as if a religious worldview is foolish and without answers. D. Even if there are those who will be convinced by him and not by me, if I don’t respond they can still read his arguments and be convinced. So why not respond and try to convince them? And even if they are not convinced, then there are others who would have been convinced and because I responded they were not convinced. And here is an important point: In my opinion, it is not right to always fear those who don’t understand at the expense of those who do. This appeals to the lowest common denominator, and unfortunately this is the prevailing approach in religious advocacy. Therefore, we lose the talented and are left with the less talented and less courageous (those who don’t dare to take the step and leave). E. In general, I see your words as an underestimation of the public. As if they don’t understand complex arguments. I don’t share this assessment. If you present arguments clearly, many will understand. And even if they don’t, then as mentioned, I’m not willing to pawn the wise for the benefit of the foolish. F. The statements of the sages you quote are not relevant to the discussion, and this is mainly for two related reasons: 1. Because I do not consider them binding statements. This is not a law. 2. These are guidelines that need to be applied according to reality and contemporary considerations. They were written in a completely different reality, in which completely different problems prevailed, people and arguments were completely different. A simplistic application of the Talmud’s guidelines in our day is a serious conservative error, both in terms of truth (because it is not right to do so) and tactically (because it is harmful in terms of results).

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א' replied 3 weeks ago

Thank you, Mikhi, from the bottom of my heart for your detailed and fair response. I was indeed enlightened by the points I raised, and your insight, "I am not willing to sacrifice the wise for the benefit of the foolish," is simply wonderful!

מיכי Staff replied 3 weeks ago

Chen Chen. Goodbye.

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