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Schottenstein or Regular Gemara

שו”תCategory: Talmudic studySchottenstein or Regular Gemara
asked 2 years ago

Hello Rabbi,
Is there any preference for learning from a regular Gemara?
The time it takes to understand Aramaic, especially since it is not adverbial, is needed to understand the sentence, and we can also add to that the logic and associative form of discussion that makes it difficult to keep your head up.
And all of this stems from gaps in time that have passed and not from any goal of creating difficulty in learning, and therefore what reason is there to continue studying the regular Gemara?
(A question in parentheses…isn’t it better for students up to 12th grade to study at Schottenstein so that they can really learn and it won’t take them so long to create tools to fill gaps in time and not in concepts in learning…there were students in 12th grade who didn’t know the concepts and barely knew how to study Gemara because of the great concentration on the means and not on the material itself.)

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מיכי Staff answered 2 years ago

There is some preference for regular Gemara because then you are not a prisoner of Schottenstein’s commentary. But it is a slight preference and it is not worth a great waste of time or effort.

ליאור replied 2 years ago

I understand the rabbi and thank you very much.
And if you had the power to influence, would you change the teaching of Gemara in the Schottenstein schools? (secondary yeshivot and elementary schools)

מיכי Staff replied 2 years ago

I don't know. I think generally not, at least not as a general rule for everyone.

רבי עקיבא replied 2 years ago

Lior, if you don't learn Aramaic, you will also have difficulty learning Rashba, Ritva, Peni Yehoshua, etc.

ליאור replied 2 years ago

Language gap? No problem, translate the commentators as well, and it's clear that there is an interpretation of certain words for several sides, but I still simply don't see a reason to leave this language if it's not useful.. Maybe for the accuracy of the rulings and understandings, it is important and where people will learn Amharic like there are people who learn a foreign language to understand the book well, but if they learn in general, then I still don't agree with the approach.

אבי replied 2 years ago

You can use Steinsaltz. It's mostly an explanation of the Aramaic, and there's still a lot of room for understanding and study. Schottenstein goes deeper and then really might lead to a specific understanding. It's also very long.

פלוני replied 1 year ago

Hello Rabbi,
If I study from the Schottenstein Gemara, is there no concern that I will not know how to study in a regular Gemara, without punctuation, punctuation and commentary?
Personally, I find it more comfortable and interesting to study from an annotated Gemara because it allows me a continuous reading flow. But I am afraid that due to my lack of personal experience in analyzing a Talmudic issue, I will not know how to deal with an issue without reference materials …

מיכי Staff replied 1 year ago

There is concern. But I don't have a general answer. You have to think about what is more important to you. Regarding the Gemara, there is Schottenstein, so you can always use him. Regarding theoretical proficiency, that is definitely important to work on.

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