Thank you for nothing.

It should also be added that the descent into Egypt and the exodus from there shaped us as a people, and there is room for gratitude for this whole thing. Not necessarily for the rescue itself.
And I will add that the descent into Egypt was not a miracle but a decision of people. In contrast, the exodus occurred because of miracles performed by God. Therefore, it simply seems that He did not bring us down to Egypt but only brought us out of there.

Even if it was as a punishment for what Abraham said, we see that the relationship between what he said and what he received is not proportional in any way.
How can you determine what is proportional?? (There is a concept of “Heavenly Accounts”)

Therefore, simply put, it seems that He did not bring us down to Egypt, but only brought us out of there.
I am tripping you up with something that even the infants of Rabban's house know – “And he said to Abram, Know for certain that your seed will be a stranger in a land not theirs, and they will enslave and afflict them four hundred years” (Genesis 15’ 13)
Only by a miracle? And that things that are done in the natural way (the decision of people) are not according to God? Wasn't the decision of the Egyptians to enslave the Israelites also a decision of people – So how did the decree “and they will enslave and afflict them” come true?

I think a miracle is just an opportunity to thank Him for the creation of the world and His laws and His way of conducting Himself, within which we are also saved from time to time –
So do we just say empty words in the prayer to the Lord? – (“And for the miracle that is with us every day”)
You should also change the wording of the prayer (good luck!)

I was happy to help

Hello to the sharer,
If you share without taste, you came to share a corner where you will not see what is said on the site, if you share with taste, taste your words.

It is difficult to admit when it seems clear that there was no favor.
If we are talking about faith in the hidden good, then there is no need for the Exodus. Believe that God is good to you every day and moment and be grateful for it.

Do you think that the Creator has no knowledge of God's actions in the future?

Good morning, are you new here?

I didn't answer the question, I was mainly referring to the funny quotes. Both those of the questioner and the one being asked.
And your quotes are no less funny.

It's hard to admit when it seems clear that there was no favor.
If we are talking about faith in the hidden goodness, then there is no need to leave Egypt. Believe that God is good to you every day and moment and be grateful for it.

Your question is different from the direction the questioner went. But it is clear that the people of Israel also had great favor in their descent into Egypt beyond the division between the two, as it is said, "And the Lord took you, and brought you out of the iron furnace, out of Egypt, to be to Him a people for an inheritance, as it is this day." (See the commentaries. And Idach Zil Gamor)

I disagree, the errors of this night are difficult.
First, to logic. The determination of what is proportional is man's and not God's, since he is required to confess. Confession is about what appears to man that requires confession.
Indeed, I was privileged to learn a few verses from that baby whose verse I recited. But beyond that, this verse does not even show anything, since it contains a prophecy and not necessarily a decree. On the contrary, the wording there indicates that God only takes us out of there, but we went down ourselves.
And another aspect of logic. If things that are done in nature are the work of God's hands, that was the questioner's assumption. To which I answered that it is not. Only miracles are the work of His hands. Therefore, both my answer and your answer are actually the work of God's hands.
Regarding the name, I have already addressed it here more than once.
And regarding your answer to the question (which repeats what I said in the second message), I was happy to help.
I wonder in conclusion: It could be that it is better for you to sleep at night, and then maybe during the day you will be more accurate (all in the SD of course)?!…

When you think about it deeply, the punishment fits like a glove, although not to the severity of the sin, but to correct it.
Vows 22:1: And Rabbi Yochanan said that he excluded people from entering under the wings of the Shekhinah, as it is said, "Give me life, and take your property." That is, Abraham believed that the one who deserves to enter under his covenant is precisely his seed, and not someone from outside. And apparently the reasoning behind this is that the one who belongs to enter into the covenant of Hashem is the one who was educated in His Torah from within, that is, to distinguish from strangers. And this is the mistake Hashem corrects by saying that we are all strangers. For you were strangers in the land of Egypt – to teach you that this is the way of a son of Israel, as if he were born in another land and later became a stranger. And so he says, "For you are strangers and sojourners before me," that every son of Israel, even a native – stranger. And God could not correct this error in a generation or two, because there was no nation that applied to them at that time, and then the remnant of Israel, which was revealed after the time they had been in Egypt, was as Abraham saw fit for those who enter into the covenant of God - a disciple of the ways of God from within. And God wanted to establish this when He made the covenant with Israel - that Israel was not a disciple of the house, but a stranger, all of them came from outside (like Abraham). Therefore, He had to set aside the same period of time that He set, that there is no "Israel" except when there is a nation. And I do not know why He saw fit to do this to Israel, circumcised after a week - a stranger, but this is evident from the sin and the punishment. And as for the seriousness of the sin, if you still find it difficult, why did He see fit to be "so cruel" to a "whole nation"? "For four hundred years"?! There is nothing in this, because the servitude of one does not join that of another, and of all these, the only one who waited for 430 years was none other than He, the Blessed One.

In other words, immigration is not another option to begin with.