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The beginning of the world and the beginning of God

שו”תCategory: philosophyThe beginning of the world and the beginning of God
asked 4 years ago

I don’t understand the difference between the assertion that the world is ancient and the assertion that the world was created by an ancient God.
If God is ancient, meaning he was not created and has no cause, it sounds like there is such a thing as an ancient world or at least some space in which this God exists, and in any case the world has always existed.
Does the issue of the primacy of the world only speak of the world we know (the universe, the Milky Way, Earth, etc.) and does the space in which God has always been and will be include another place that is not in discussion (the next world / the world of souls…) that is primal?


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מיכי Staff answered 4 years ago
I didn’t understand the question. God is not located anywhere. He is the place of the world and the world is not His place. Beyond that, when we reject the claim of a primordial world, we mean the world as it is known to us today (the material world). Not the space itself, but the content that fills it.

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דוד replied 4 years ago

In my opinion, the atheistic argument goes like this:
If a believer is allowed to say that God has no beginning (a starting point) and that he does not need an explanation,
so is the atheist's right to claim that all of reality has no beginning (everything is ancient, not just the world but also what was “before” the Big Bang) and that it exists without explanation, and a believer could have no objections to this, since he claims the same things about God.

מיכי Staff replied 4 years ago

He also has the right to claim that a rooster has six wings. It is not a question of rights but of reasonableness. Our reality is familiar to us and is not something that has a necessary existence that does not require a prior cause.
I expanded on this in the first post and in the second and third notebooks.

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