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The one who disagrees with his master

שו”תCategory: Meta HalachaThe one who disagrees with his master
asked 1 year ago

How does the Rabbi’s words about a first-order ruling that a person has a right to rule on a halakha from his own mind and not submit to authority, align with the words of Chazal, “Anyone who disagrees with his Rabbi is like disagreeing with the Shekhinah,” and thus prohibitions in many languages ​​that one must obey the Rabbi?
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מיכי Staff answered 1 year ago
First, at that time the Torah was passed down orally, and therefore the relationship between rabbi and student was derived from this and was completely different from what is appropriate today. It also depends on whether it is a question of disputing facts or judgment. At least today, at the stage where you have a rabbi, you have not yet reached teaching and it is worth relying on him.

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יהונתן ברבי replied 1 year ago

The sources that existed in the past were fewer than today. Even if it was passed down orally. The main point of examination is the methods of learning from the Bible. And the judgment. And in this we can see it as it is today. So is the Rabbi's answer that what is said in the Gemara that one who disagrees with his rabbi as one who disagrees with the Shekhinah is only in the case that he did not reach the teaching? Because there is no mention of that. Of course, those who learn it from those who disagree with Moses. It is possible to excuse that they did not reach the teaching regarding him. But the fact that they simply learn it from every rabbi and did not mention it is difficult. And Korah and all the heads of the Sanhedrin there certainly reached the teaching had it not been for Moses.

However, I have now seen that there is an interpretation that one who disagrees with his rabbi is not to disagree with a halakhic ruling but to establish a competing beit midrash for himself like Korah and his party who disagreed with Moses and separated from him. In doing so, he breaks away from tradition and connection to his own sages, and this is the prohibition. Perhaps this is a better answer to the Rabbi's method.

מיכי Staff replied 1 year ago

Are there any who disagreed about their rabbis? And why do we need evidence for this? Didn't the Ritva, the Ra, and the Rashba disagree about the Ramban? Even the Tur occasionally disagrees about his father, the Ra.

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