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The theory of reward

שו”תThe theory of reward
asked 10 months ago

How does retribution for generations correspond with God being good? After all, when someone is punished, it is done in response to their actions.

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מיכי Staff answered 10 months ago

Be more concrete.

עמית replied 10 months ago

After all, rewards and punishments are given in response to actions taken freely. It does not seem logical to punish a person simply because his parents sinned when he did nothing wrong. Nevertheless, there are cases where God punishes a person by causing his descendants to suffer.

מיכי Staff replied 10 months ago

Give examples and we can discuss.

עמית replied 10 months ago

“Fathers have eaten unripe fruit, and six sons have become deaf”

מיכי Staff replied 10 months ago

https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%91%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%90%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%95_%D7%91%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%A8_%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%99_%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%AA%D7%A7%D7%94%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%94

מיכי Staff replied 10 months ago

In those days they will no longer say, "The fathers have eaten a bad day, and the children's teeth will be set on edge." For if a man is in his iniquity, all the people who have eaten a bad day will have their teeth set on edge.

מיכי Staff replied 10 months ago

See also the entire chapter 18 of Ezekiel.

עמית replied 10 months ago

What about the fact that David and Bathsheba's son died?

מיכי Staff replied 10 months ago

The death of a child is a punishment for them and not for him. But it is described there that the child has also suffered for a week. Indeed, it is true, especially in light of the sources above that children are not punished for the sins of their parents (the law of bastardy is also harsh here).
Perhaps there was a special need for such a punishment for the parents, even if it is at the expense of the child. It is like punishing a sinful person with death and his family suffers from it. Or simply suffering that comes to a person without having sinned because there is some need for it. And it is true.

עמית replied 10 months ago

So in conclusion, isn't retribution for generations something that exists?

מיכי Staff replied 10 months ago

In my understanding, it should not exist, and the verses also say no. In practice, there may be situations where this is done if there are good reasons for it (i.e. goals that cannot be achieved otherwise).

עמית replied 10 months ago

I understand. Thank you very much!

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