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asked 8 years ago

Peace and blessings,
I wanted your help in understanding a verse in the “Repeating Wheel” (in Torah parlance. Is there a special name for this in the branch of logic?). Let’s say there is a banana, a date, and an olive in front of me, and they are favorite in my eyes according to this order. According to Halacha, in their equal blessings, they follow the one that comes first in the verse in the seven species, and in their equal blessings, they follow the one that comes first.
So olive comes before date because it is earlier in the verse. And banana comes before olive because it is more beloved than it. And date comes before banana because it is more beloved than it. We are stuck.
In the Wisdom of Solomon and in the Book of Shlomo, Shlomo Toda notes that the Gm (Zebachim 62:2) makes such a “revolving wheel” in the Korbanot, and from the conclusion of the Gm there, Shlomo Toda learns that even in our discussion – “the virtue of the banana is only because of its likability, and this is found even more in the date, so the banana is eliminated and the olive and date remain.” What is meant?
And if anything, I’ll raise a pertinent question that I heard this week, which was answered by one of the famous Haredi rabbis. According to halacha, there is a problem in certain cases for a man to be alone with two women, even if they are five women who hate each other, in which case there is no fear that they will sin and hide.
The same rabbi married her granddaughter as a white woman. And she was wondering whether it was permissible to travel with her late at night in a taxi because she ‘hated’ her as a mother-in-law, or because the daughter-in-law was her granddaughter – she did not hate her.
(Can this be attributed to the reason for the hatred expressed in Yevamot 17? That is, the mother-in-law’s hatred of the daughter-in-law because she is going to inherit her inheritance does not belong to her granddaughter. And so the reason for the face-to-face relationship does not belong. But the R’s opinion that the mother-in-law reveals secrets to her son – perhaps it does?).
 
I would be very happy if you could enlighten me, especially on the first question. Please explain to me the intention of the Shlomi. Thank you, or alternatively give me another way to resolve the conflict.


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מיכי Staff answered 8 years ago
If I understand correctly, he means to say that the cause of likability is transitive (if a is likable in the first and b is likable in the second, then a is likable in the third), and therefore regarding it, one can make such a consideration: All that the banana precedes the olive is because it is likable than it. But in this case, the date is better than the banana, and therefore, from considerations of likability, the banana is eliminated from the game. In this axis, it certainly will not win. But regarding Kadima in the verse, such a consideration does not apply, since the banana is not in the verse. By the way, I remember that the Hatas on the Shulchan Arbiter already cites such a case and comments on the similarity to the Gemara in Sacrifices. In the Talmudic Logic series, we wrote an entire book (the fifth book) on various loops in the Talmud and Halacha, and this case is also discussed in it.

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אהרן replied 8 years ago

Thanks, but I still haven't been able to understand.

What do you mean by: ”All that the banana is better than the olive is that it is more likable than it. But in this case the date is better than the banana, and therefore, for reasons of likability, the banana is out of the game. In this case, it certainly won't win”.

In fact, we don't eat the date. So why does the likability of the date help the olive? Why is this different from a case where we only have an olive and a banana?

(And can we briefly address the second question?).

מיכי Staff replied 8 years ago

It doesn't matter that you don't eat the date. It just proves that the banana can't win on the axis of likability, which is its strong axis, and therefore it is removed from the calculation.
Regarding uniqueness, in my opinion it is not a logical question but a psychological one. It is not a wheel but a question of the overcoming of two opposite sides. From the explanation I suppose that if she is her granddaughter, the love increases.

א' replied 6 years ago

Is the fifth book, mentioned here, available to read online?

מיכי replied 6 years ago

not

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