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asked 4 years ago

Hello Rabbi,
I know some people who, when they have a dilemma or hesitation about a certain issue (not related to Torah), such as whether to move to another place, or whether to invest money in this company or another, or whether I need the surgery that the doctors are offering me or will it pass in the future, etc., etc., they go to a rabbi and ask what they should do; does this make sense? Can a rabbi really direct them in the right direction even though he has no knowledge of chemistry or business or medicine, for example? And some have told me that he certainly can, since everything is in the Torah. Is this saying true? And if it is true, how do you really find everything? I myself have not even found the Pythagorean theorem, but maybe because I do not study enough, I do not find it, and if I really study Tractate Eruvin very carefully, I will find geometry and trigonometry, etc.? And on the other hand, if it is not true, what is the meaning of “look into the Torah and create a mind” according to which it is clear that everything is in the Torah?


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מיכי Staff answered 4 years ago
The midrash “I will look into the Torah and create a Alma” is a Alma midrash, and no conclusion can be drawn from it. It is unlikely in my opinion that there is scientific information in the Torah, and even if there were, there is no way for anyone to extract it from there. The midrash apparently means to say that what I need for my guidance in life is found in the Torah, and that is not very clear either. If it were possible to extract everything from the Torah, I would expect that sages would reveal the cures to all disputes, the technologies of the future, thus saving us a lot of time and convenience and allowing us to win all wars and overcome all difficulties. This is nonsense, of course. I already told you once here that when I studied at a yeshiva in Bnei Brak and went to university in the afternoon (I was doing a doctorate in physics at the time), the guys at the yeshiva told me what the hell are you looking for at the university, everything is in the Torah?! I told them: Your answer in my translation: A. Please find me the solution to the Schrödinger equation for a rotating potential well. It will save me a lot of time and I can devote it to studying Torah. You don’t have to say that until now I haven’t received the solution from anyone there. B. If the Schrödinger equation is also in the Torah, then I study Torah all day, but in the afternoon I study it at the university. So what’s the problem with me going there? And does the place matter?! To teach you, these are empty slogans, and whoever says them has no idea whether they are true or what they mean. It’s nonsense. I expanded on all of this in the trilogy (a special chapter is dedicated to this in the second book). But of course there is value in consulting with a wise person, not necessarily a scholar. It is always good. Not to receive instructions but to receive advice and guidance in thinking.

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אהוד replied 4 years ago

The midrashim that discuss the contemplation of the Torah and the creation of the world speak of the Higher Torah, which is the template for the creation of the present world. It would have been appropriate to mention this interpretation, but apparently Michi did not study enough. . .

Here it is, from Wikipedia (by Rabbi Sharaki Shalit):
“The sayings of the sages that discuss the Torah, in which God looked and created the world, refer to the Higher Torah, which is written as “black fire on white fire” (Yerushalmi Shekalim 6:5), and this is not the Torah that we have, and not a single wise man among the sages of Israel ever studied science through the Torah, but rather through scientific literature. “

EA replied 4 years ago

I also know the method of Rabbi Shreki, who is also (with Rabbi Michai) my rabbi, so I would like the method of Rabbi Michai.
Brother, stop being a clown, it's a waste of your time, every Rabbi knows that you don't have to know everything and the words of all the rabbis in the world, even the Amoraim wouldn't know all the creation, I would like to see you go and tell them that they haven't learned enough…

א,, replied 4 years ago

What is the source of Rabbi Sharki's words? On another ”Upper Torah”

הפוסק האחרון replied 4 years ago

“Everything is in the Torah”.
Recipes are for fools, the Torah is not a recipe book.

החושב הראשון replied 4 years ago

I have long thought that Rabbi Michi and Rabbi Shreki should join forces. Two world giants.
Maybe this is how the Messiah will come..

ישי replied 4 years ago

A, the source of the 'Upper Torah' is from the Zohar, if I'm not mistaken.

אסף replied 2 years ago

The source is from Maharal Tiferet Yisrael, I think.

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