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A. Difference between matter (the thing in itself without its form, etc.) and a Platonic idea?
on. You write that usage rights are the non-essential part of the form. And I understand why. Ostensibly, they are the essential part of the form, except that there are situations in which the form does not appear (lack of a divorce decree). It is not the usage rights that are non-essential, but the form.
A. Is there a question here? What is the connection between these two? The idea is a pure form, the thing furthest from the substance of the thing.
B. It’s semantics that I don’t understand. The fact that it may sometimes not appear means that it’s not essential.
A. Matter is the thing itself without its form. That is exactly an idea, isn't it? The idea is the horse's feeling, it is the horseness without the form of the horse but only the idea of a horse.
B. So every form is immaterial! Because everything has its matter and its form, and if, as you say, the fact that it can not appear means that it is immaterial, then it follows that form is always immaterial, and thus your understanding between an essential form and an accidental form does not exist.
A. The idea is the form without the matter. A flying form.
B. I didn't understand. There are parts of the form that cannot be separated from the thing itself, and they are the essential part. A person's breath is part of his essential form. So is his mind.
Regarding light or color or sound, for example: there is a wave that meets my ear and as a result I hear a sound, but in the world itself there is no sound, of course, only the wave. And so with light.
Now, what is matter and what is the form of sound or light? As I understood it, matter (in the philosophical sense, not in the material sense) is the thing itself that has this wave, and the form is its characteristics, such as the wavelength.
Right? Or is the form the tone of the sound and its decibel?
Maybe in another way, does the form of an object exist even if I am not here? Does it exist in the world itself, or just because I am here does it have a form? Apparently the horse has a form (height, strength, speed) even if I am not here, it does not matter.
So I did not understand when in one place you write that the form is the object as it appears to us.
It's a question of definition. You can talk about the objective form, which is the wavelength and other objective characteristics, and you can talk about the subjective-conscious form, which is the color and the sound.
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