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Two questions from different topics in matters of faith

שו”תCategory: philosophyTwo questions from different topics in matters of faith
asked 5 years ago

Shalom Rabbi, good evening, as the title says, I have 2 questions:
1. I began to be interested in the Rabbi’s method and realized that because I have no prior knowledge of philosophy… I don’t understand much… I would be happy if the Rabbi had a number of sources that he recommends studying as a basis for understanding his method and also for gaining basic knowledge of philosophy from which to continue (for example, I just started S.H. Bergman’s book Introduction to Logic, does the Rabbi recommend this book? Or does he have another book for studying logic?)
2. I would love to hear what the rabbi thinks about this video https://youtu.be/uxlXVDyzaiE The video is part of a lesson taught by Manito (Rabbi Uri Sharki’s rabbi). The topic he talks about is explained in several other videos and lessons… I would love to hear the rabbi’s response to the conclusions drawn from the video.
Thank you very much, Rabbi, and good evening.
 


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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
  1. I don’t have any central sources. Anyone who wants to acquire knowledge in philosophy should start by reading introductory books and then progress according to their areas of interest. I definitely recommend Bergman’s book, although it’s not easy.
  2. If you want my opinion on any argument, please post it here.

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מתחיל replied 5 years ago

1. Thank you.
2. In the Manitou video, Manitou's claim is that a person cannot, with his mind, come to the conclusion that the God of the Bible exists, who is the God of the Bible? It is the same Aloha who can speak to people “And the Lord spoke to Moses’ and therefore a person cannot truly believe if he is not a prophet = one who has experienced the encounter with the same thing he believes in.
There are actually two questions here
A. Does the rabbi think it is correct to say that it is not possible to reach with reason a belief in a God who has revelation?
B. Does the rabbi agree with the statement that there is no faith without revelation, and in fact, whoever is not a prophet does not believe?

מיכי replied 5 years ago

According to this (crooked) logic, the average person cannot believe in physics, biology, and mathematics, because they know nothing about these fields, and most people also have no ability to understand them.
In fact, it is also impossible to believe that Napoleon existed because none of us can meet him.

. replied 5 years ago

Haha, combining the two claims, we can accept Descartes' anthropological evidence.
If we cannot believe in him and yet we believe, we have accepted Descartes' evidence. (Because Napoleon is not something other than essential, but can be understood by the power of the imagination)
And if we can believe, then Max, we are left with the evidence of Rabbi Michi.

מתחיל replied 5 years ago

I think there is a difference between belief in God and belief in facts. Belief in God is a belief that I cannot see with my own eyes (in terms of nature as a whole, it is not something that nature necessarily shouts about, a fact that is disputed). On the other hand, belief in physics and the like is a belief that is "found here," that I don't need someone from outside to discover because it is on the same plane of my life.

מיכי replied 5 years ago

Irrelevant division. Apply the logic you presented to this and you will find that you get exactly the same thing.
In other words: God is also present here in the world, but only prophets can meet him. Completely analogous in terms of the logic of the argument you presented.

מתחיל replied 5 years ago

Right and..? God is present and only prophets can meet Him – I am not a prophet = I cannot meet.
I don't understand what the problem is with this? That's exactly the argument, because God only reveals Himself to the prophets – I can't truly believe it.

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

It seems I'm messing up my words here.
Here's the equivalent argument: Is the theory of relativity true in reality?! You're not a physicist = therefore you can't encounter it and understand it. Conclusion: There is no theory of relativity (at least for you).
As far as I'm concerned, we're done. This is really getting a bit repetitive and stupid.

וגם נגיד ברית replied 5 years ago

(It should be noted that the direction is exactly the opposite of the “compositions.” Manitou relies on faith in the Torah to establish faith in God, and in the compositions, establishing faith in the Torah relies primarily on the existence of God and the expectation that He will will something.)

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