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What do you think about the things said in this video?

שו”תCategory: faithWhat do you think about the things said in this video?
asked 5 years ago

What do you think about the things said in this video?
How can you calm the woman down afterwards, what can you say?


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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
No woman needs to be reassured. We simply need to understand that it was said in a different context and has no meaning today. We need to reassure the men and others who take such statements seriously (as well as legendary statements in general). Even among the sages, it is possible that when we understand the context, this statement will sound less terrible, but as mentioned, there is no need for that. How will you reassure those who belong to a secular society that until not long ago advocated slavery and the lack of women’s right to vote? Or that denied homosexuality? There are cultural changes in every society, religious or secular. These are not statements that came from God, but from human beings. Both the critics and the defenders belong to the sect of fools and wicked people, as classified by Maimonides in the introduction to his commentary on Part One (three sects in relation to legends).

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ק replied 5 years ago

Has the rabbi seen the video?
Most of it is citing sources from all sorts of rabbis, not so much the words of Chazal.

Maybe Rabbi Shalit will add another article against igod? There in the miscellaneous.
As I understand it, they have started a new attack, because they started uploading videos three weeks ago, and in the last period (days/two weeks?) they have started publishing them. They already have about 250 thousand views on these videos.

מיכי replied 5 years ago

This video of igod?

ק replied 5 years ago

But what…
Did you think of Y’ Yadan? The infidels don't die, they just change.
Not long ago they did a big fundraiser in America, if you're interested I'll look for a link, where they spoke to evangelists – that people don't lack money, they just lack the “gospel”, and for every person who donates $50 in cash, they will reach 5000! Jews.
Because Israelis are in the media a lot, almost more than any other country. And the media is the playground for branding them.

רציונלי(יחסית)-לק replied 5 years ago

Someone who converts to Christianity because of stupid YouTube videos. I'm sorry to say. He is not a person with a strong mind and high-level intellectual articles like Michi's will not help anything.
Jews who are crucified will guarantee them an entrance ticket to heaven or Braslavs who will preach to them that the wigs they grow will help Rabbi Nachman attract them to heaven and even the lowest level charlatans of Indian sects who offer you to dance on the beach. Mumble love songs to Indian gods. And to the same extent pray to aliens - they will buy everything.
For such populations, perhaps what will help is poor arguments and demagogues about how Christians have murdered Jews for 2000 years and a tear-jerking lecture in the dialogue of Rabbi Yitzhak Yifanger about the fact that the Father in Heaven is waiting for you

Gil replied 5 years ago

Rational. The problem is not with conversion to Christianity but with hatred of religion, questioning it and worse; preventing secular people from wanting to repent. These videos are very powerful and their influence cannot be challenged. It is worrying. But that is what is

. replied 5 years ago

Gil, that's why we need to give them back in an exercise. Maybe you can help?

רציונלי(יחסית) replied 5 years ago

For the 11-year-old, the question is not caused by some stupid cartoon or another (although they contribute, they are not the main reason) and there is no real way to prevent such a mass phenomenon. Because it is usually caused by existential feelings of "I don't connect" and the like. Then it is very difficult to answer this because someone who is unburdened is not because of a search for the truth. Nor out of closed questions. But simply because he doesn't feel like it. It is impossible to really convince him rationally of something (of course, you can refer to all kinds of Hasidic techniques, which are often a religious Jewish version of personal empowerment and self-realization, but this does not speak to everyone. And many see this as an imitation of secular submission.

רציונלי(יחסית) replied 5 years ago

..And if the issue is moral questions about religion or religious society, there is no real magic bullet for that either. Because there is not always an appropriate answer to these difficulties, they are simply real. If someone tells you, for example, that he is having difficulty repenting because of the attitude towards the Gentile, you can of course bring excuses about elite travelers. Books and testimonies by Gary Tzedek like Avraham Livni who will testify from the outside how charming and loving Judaism is, or to raise the Meiri from the abyss. But at the end of the day. When the negative attitude towards the Gentile. For the most part, the Gentiles are the majority. Indeed, it is dictated by sources from endings and not esoteric at all in books. And in large parts of religious-ultra-Orthodox society, this will not hold water. The same applies to sources that talk about secular female slaves and the like.

רציונלי(יחסית) replied 5 years ago

And in general, there can be no widespread solution to the question by selling sweets and candy to the general public. Since most of them are not that stupid. But by presenting the complete picture. Despite the fact that the specific video is tainted with anarchism and chooses to present the likenesses of marginalized people. Some of whom are not scholars at all, in my humble opinion, but rather Baalei Teshuvah who have their urine go up their heads like a Mizrahi Yosef. Or rabbis who are really not mainstream in any community, like Eliezer Blender. To say that the approach to women according to Rishonim from the Conclusions and according to the Conclusions is not negative is deceit. The best way is to simply be honest intellectually and say that there are and there are sources and that keeping the commandments should not necessarily be a throwaway of common sense and we claim to keep it light as serious even if on factual issues from the Conclusions you disagree with the greats of other generations or think that their words in this area are already different today.

תם. replied 5 years ago

Rabbi Zamir Cohen in response..
https://youtu.be/ef-Oq-3nn7A

שולייתא replied 5 years ago

I didn't understand the answer, but here are his arguments:
1. The sages said that greater wisdom was given to women. A married man should consult with his wife.
2. The video was produced by missionaries.
3. Why didn't they bring the words of the sages that exalt the "woman". Without a woman, there is no blessing.
4. In the Zohar, marriage is completion and union into one.
5. In the Christian view, the woman is the messenger of Satan. Will they preach morality?
6. Every Shabbat, the Jews sing "Eshet Chail" (The Mighty Woman), a number of proverbs from the Tanakh (the "Old Testament").
7. In the Tanakh, there is a verse: "He who finds a woman finds good."
8. On the other hand, it says, “I find bitter death” (a solution to the contradiction that has a lot of potential and can go both ways. If you work with ego (finding “I”), you fail).
9. Rav Yosef stood before his mother as before the Divine Presence.
10. The rabbi Auerbach would fix his appearance before entering his house.
11. The great men of Israel exalted women. Thanks to righteous women, they were redeemed from Egypt. And they will also be redeemed.
12. The holidays of redemption revolve around women. Hanukkah (Jewish). Purim (Esther). Passover and Sukkot (righteous women).
12. Some of the segments in the missionary video are taken out of context.

יש סוף לפתגם replied 5 years ago

In Ecclesiastes it is said of a woman, “Find a woman and get pleasure from her.” It is also said, “See life with a woman whom you love, for she is a portion..” On the other hand, “I find it bitterer than death.” It is said of a “woman whose heart is hunted and robbed,” which is the strange woman who tries to entice a man into a transgression.

King Solomon makes this distinction in Proverbs 5, where he warns against a strange woman who seeks to lead a man astray: “For a foreigner’s lips will pour out a sieve, and a portion of oil will wait for her, and her end will be like wormwood.” Keep your way far from her, and I will draw near to the door of her house.

In contrast, the wise teacher: ‘May the wife of your husband be blessed and happy, Eilat Ahabim and Yalet Chen Dadiya, always shoot with love, always go astray, and why should you go astray, my son, and embrace the law of a foreigner…’.

Among the Christians, there was no such distinction. They rejected every woman as arousing sexual desire, and therefore demanded that their priests abstain from married life and marriage. About their ‘Messiah’ the story of the ’On Galyon’ that he even insulted his mother when she came to him while he was meeting with his disciples, and said to her: What is the matter with you, woman…’

On the other hand, the Israeli man is guided by the sages who honored and taught his father and mother, his father who taught Torah and his mother who enticed him with words and educated him to a life of Torah and commandments and good virtues.

Until one of the tanims, his mother marveled at the respect he showed her when the strap of a shoe broke and he put his hand under her foot so that she would walk on it, and his friends said that he did not even reach half the respect that the Torah said.

And whoever is accustomed to honoring his mother in this way will find it easier for him to fulfill the duty of loving his wife as his own body and honoring her more than his own body (Yevamot 2:2) and to consult with her on all matters of common concern (Bim 5:5), as our father Jacob did when the angel commanded him to return to the land of Israel, he called his wives and asked for their consent.

Among Jews who are observant of the Torah and the commandments, the home and children are at the forefront of their minds. It is no wonder that the woman who plays a central role in the upbringing of the children and in determining the character of the home as a faithful Jew full of Torah and kindness is highly respected in the eyes of her husband, as it is written in the book of Ishat Chail: “Her sons shall rise up, and her husband shall bless her and praise her.”

With blessings, Sh.

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