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Who said the one who is revealed is telling the truth?

שו”תCategory: faithWho said the one who is revealed is telling the truth?
asked 2 years ago

peace,
Let’s assume that we were present at Mount Sinai, or at least were born a few generations after it happened. So we had no doubt that it happened and there was a revelation there, etc.
The question still remains: How are we supposed to know that the One who reveals Himself to us, who gives us the Torah, and commands us with the commandments, is speaking the truth?
Maybe he is not the creator of the world, but a lesser being who still has the power to part the Red Sea, etc.
Unlike humans, who have the tools to examine or evaluate their words, or try to look for any interests they might have in lying, when it comes to a spiritual revelation that is not from this world, since we have no indication of whether he is speaking the truth or a lie, or the ability to compare to other revelations in which we know that they spoke the truth or a lie and to statistically evaluate, what is better than assuming that he is speaking the truth over assuming that he is speaking a lie?
And even if we say that revelation is something that cannot be described at all to a person who has not experienced it, like explaining to a blind person what it is to see. Even a person who sees can see illusions, in addition to the fact that it is not certain that as part of the tradition of the class there is also a clear tradition for this additional “sense”.
Even a person who believes in the God who created the world, how can he be sure that this is indeed the one who is revealed to him?
 
thanks.


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מיכי Staff answered 2 years ago
Even a person you meet cannot know whether he is telling the truth or not. You also do not have the tools to evaluate this. You imagine that you have such tools. It turns out that in an encounter you can be impressed. The people of Israel were impressed that he was telling the truth. Beyond that, if there is a God, there is no reason to assume that the one who was revealed was not him but someone else who is also called God (according to Shakespeare). And on the other hand, as you wrote, as long as you have not experienced a revelation, you cannot criticize it. Perhaps someone who has experienced it knows that it is true, like a blind man who sees. As a general rule, no one can be sure of anything. Not about God, not about anything else. So what?

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דוד replied 2 years ago

From my experience in the world, I see that people are mostly truthful, and therefore when presented with a certain statement, I will assume that it is true, and ”he who deduces from his author the evidence”, but the starting assumption is that it is true. Which is not the case with superior beings whose behavior I do not know.
In addition, I myself am a human being, and can assume that most people act more or less like me, and this gives me the ability to assess whether they are telling the truth or a lie.
I want to be precise, I do not assume that the speaker is not God, I just do not understand why I assume that the speaker is indeed God, it is more obvious? I have no ability to assess, so why not remain in doubt.

משה ח. replied 2 years ago

It is God's will that He will not allow others to impersonate Him in a way that humans will not be able to discern.

דוד replied 2 years ago

How did you come to the conclusion that there is this hold on God?

ק replied 2 years ago

David the Rabbi answered you simply, this is also a type of assumption.
“Beyond that, if there is a God, there is no reason to assume that the one who revealed himself was not him but someone else who is also called God “

משה ח. replied 2 years ago

David, for the same reason, if God were to reveal himself, I would not suspect that he would just command me like that and that he has no interest in me keeping his commandments, and on the contrary, he would punish with severe punishments those who are tempted to obey him. It is plausible.

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