Why are Haredim afraid of dogs?

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The guy used (albeit unsuccessfully, of course) the website as a platform to spread propaganda. A collection of clumsy attempts to find excuses for writing the word Haredi from the Hebrew word "haredi" (from "haredi"),

https://www.bhol.co.il/forums/topic.asp?whichpage=2&topic_id=2918646

Benjamin,
If the question really interests you and not just a joke: I once asked a psychologist about this. He claimed that it is because the Haredim are not used to this type of animal and therefore it arouses fear in them.
As a retired Haredi child, Benny Barki, I can say that I was also afraid of dogs, until I started to socialize with them more and more and the fear decreased.

Why is it so critical for you to explore the Haredi psyche??

Benjamin, when a Haredi barks at you, you too will be afraid. And to the point: Once, hundreds of years ago, a dog entered the Temple Mount and the Mufti at the time ordered all the dogs in Jerusalem to be killed and the rotting bodies he ordered the Jews to bury. I read that in one of the history books. Since then, the author claimed, Jews have had a phobia of dogs. And since the Haredi are Jews of the past, they are still afraid. And if you are a new Jew, I would recommend that you read “The Jewish Dog” by Habiba Fediyeh

Gil, that's Asher Kravitz, right?
https://www.google.com/search?q=הקלבהייהודי&oq=הקלבהייהודי&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.7538j0j7&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Shai, me? Clowning? H”u !!!
Refer to my question above in which I already referred to the psychologist's answer, his answer is relevant in relation to this or that Haredi individual but in relation to all Haredim is completely meaningless.
Dear Giil, please refer to my question above and thank you for the reference to reading “The Jewish Dog”, it does sound fascinating.

In the 8th of Adar 5771

To Benjamin, greetings,

The fear of dogs among the Haredim stems from their being symbols of boldness, as it is written: ‘And the dogs are so fierce that they know not satiety’. And so in Akbata Damshicha, the ‘face of the generation is like the face of the dog’, which is the insolence that rebels against all authority and tradition. The Haredi approach is an internal gathering, fearing any contact with the ‘face of the generation’ which is full of insolence and boldness.

In contrast, Rabbi Kook explained in the article ‘The Generation’ that the ’hotzaf’ of Akbata Damshicha – It is based on a positive quality, on the desire to fulfill out of understanding and an autonomous will, and not out of surrender and resignation. The ’hotspa’ is the demand to understand and identify with what one is doing, and not to do as ’learned people's mitzvot’.

Therefore, even when the boldness slips into places of brazen defiance – one must address the inner force that motivates it: the sincere desire to reach the truth. And it is our duty to delve deeper into Torah thought in order to provide an appropriate response to doubts, questions, and inadequacies. And when the appropriate faith-based response is given – those asking will come to a true understanding of the truth of the Torah and will embrace it out of deep inner conviction.

Then the boldness of ‘Peni Hador’ will transform into ’Zeer of Dekdusha’. And when the questioners receive the answers that will quench their thirst, then the second quality of the dog will also be revealed in them, the quality of loyalty to its owner. Those who dared to ask the piercing questions will accept anew, with an inner desire, the yoke of the Kingdom of Heaven, and will sing (like the song of the dog in the Song of Songs): Come, let us bow down and kneel, let us be blessed before the Lord.

With best wishes, Charlie Cocker Spaniel

Wonderful answer Rabbi Spaniel! 🙂

Correction –
In paragraph 2, line 2
… With the desire to act out of understanding…

Note –
In the letter of Tikva”e (sent to Ridv”z), Rav Kook explains that the path of approaching while dealing with the owners of the ’hotzafa da'kavta d'mashicha’ is not suitable for everyone. There are many for whom dealing with the rebels is liable to lead them to a spiritual decline. Indeed, each one needs to make a careful internal inquiry, in order to decide with his place between the &#8217Haredim’ or between the &#8217Motrvilim’.

With best wishes, Shࢭz

In my opinion, the rabbi meant that the Haredi should not go to a psychologist, but you...

B, I meant neither this nor that. What I said is that such a question should be directed to a psychologist, not to me.

Why does the rabbi assume that this is a psychological question? Couldn't there be a philosophical meaning to the word "dog" that is frowned upon in Haredi interaction?

Indeed, that's what I was aiming for in my question, the Haredi fear of dogs stems from a misunderstanding of the words of the Gemara... we would call this a fear based on cultural background...

In 9 Adar 5721

The Haredim seem to shy away from domesticated animals. They will name their sons after the wolf, bear, and lion, but not after their domesticated cousins - the dog is the wolf's cousin and the cat is the lion's cousin. Domesticating animals seems to be a sign of innovation, and so the Haredim oppose it.

With greetings, the cradle of Evin-Ber, an elephant without end
The Institute for Pseudo-Philosophical Parapsychology, named after Talia Rachel Taub

If so, you should ask a zoologist, not a psychologist. Or perhaps a philosopher of zoology who will discuss the philosophical meaning of a dog.
Friends, do me a favor, let me go.
Benjamin, if you have a claim about any issue in the Gemara, and you think there is a common misinterpretation of it, you can raise it here directly and not under the guise of a zoological-psychological question.

The question is addressed precisely to Rabbi Avraham, because he has the solution to the fear of dogs. After all, with Avraham, even the sheep would walk in a state of alertness and fear of dogs.

If this is the case, the demand to follow Avraham and put a muzzle on the mouths of dogs should arise, and then the Haredim will not be afraid of dogs. And come to Zion, a Savior.

With blessings, Shunra Katz

And in our generation, even people walk in a state of alertness - why should the dogs' share be diminished?

It's not fear, but a rejection of disgust. The dog's paws roam the street, on the sidewalk, on the road, near garbage cans, and also in food scraps and other places where silence is nice. Personally, I can't accept a lick from a dog that hugs garbage, even if it's the cutest dog. I'm not saying that Haredi hygiene is superior to everyone else's, but in any case, I completely understand this rejection. I wonder why no one thinks about this argument.

Hello Buki, no normal person would run away due to a feeling of disgust, they run away from fear!!!
This is clear to most people who know how to distinguish between the two feelings mentioned…

Anyone interested in getting to know Benjamin Gorlin:

https://mobile.kikar.co.il/article/164704

https://www.93fm.co.il/radio/175388/?utm_source=site&utm_medium=%D7%AA%D7%92%D7%99%D7%AA:%20%D7%96%D7%9E%D7%95%20%D7%90%D7%95%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A8

Here's another one:

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Gorlin, I've never seen a smelly Haredi, at most they move to the other side of the sidewalk or flinch a little. I've never seen anyone run away from dogs more than they do from cockroaches, not Haredi, not Chiluyin, not Doss.

Hello Haim, for your reference:
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Benjamin,
There's really nothing to brag about in this act. While I like you personally, I think the act is really bad and deserving of reproach.

Shai, is the act bad because of the subject of the complaint?
If it were shown that Z’Z’Z’Z Casablanca was a sinner in that act, would the act then be considered a heroic act?

Gorlin, the act is bad because it is clear that it was done out of boredom or a certain personal need, and your ”honorable” array of claims will prove it. The act is bad because no one should suffer from your problems.

Benjamin, even if I agreed with the complaint against Rabbi Shalom Cohen, I would not agree with the second complaint.

This is an adult who does not live on the ground of reality, and as we see in the video, he does not know what ‘cannabis’ is at all, and certainly not what its possession means from a criminal perspective. How can one complain about him? What is his fault that someone brought this into his house?

Haim, if, following my complaint, one person from Israel drew your conclusion: "This is an adult who does not live on the ground of reality," and it was my salary?

Benjamin,
Indeed, as Chaim wrote, Rabbi Kanievsky did not know that he was smelling a substance that was outlawed (especially since there are experts who claim that this law is absurd and was made by unprofessional people who did not know how to distinguish between types of psychoactive substances in the law). Moreover, it is clear to both of us that the motive for the complaint was not zeal for upholding the law, but a jab at a scholar who belongs to the sector you despise.

To Buki and Shai Zilberstein,

The determination of whether an act is kosher or impermissible is not related to the motive of the person who commits it, as explained here on the site, and simply.

Mr. Haim, they didn't talk about the limited act itself, they talked about the motive, and indeed the motive is very bad. That's all.

“The act is bad because no one should suffer from your problems” – Bucky.

Very true. I mean his actions, not his actions. Thank you for correcting.

Since Itmahi is good at filing complaints, I suggest he complain about the Haredim for "exclusion of dogs" 🙂

With regards, Dina Demalkhuta Zilber

In the Sasd Motzashk Tzvah 57221f

However, the fear of dogs is legitimate, and in its time the Sages forbade raising an untied dog, and cited examples of dogs that barked at a pregnant woman and caused a miscarriage. Even today, teachers of the law teach that the dog should be tied up and not roam free, as Rabbi Yonatan Elran, who was the rabbi of Kochav HaShachar, would say: ‘It is forbidden to raise a permitted dog’

With blessings, Shét

Gorlin,
Rabbi Kanievsky's lawsuit is an immoral act (taking advantage of his lack of knowledge about cannabis) and in my opinion it also contains an element of insulting a scholar.
I thought about extending the virtue of your wisdom a little further, but I'm afraid of getting sued by you…

On the 12th of Adar 5772

In the margins of the discussion here, I will comment on what the sages said about Queen Esther, who fled away in fear when she prayed when she came to the king, “You have saved my soul from the sword from the hand of my only dog,” and she did not return to her in fear until she fulfilled her request, “Save me from the lion’s mouth.”

Esther does not need to be afraid of Haman and his friends, who are likened to dogs; but she must fear the king. This gives Esther a hint that the king should treat her with respect and approach him with reasons that will convince him.

And indeed, she speaks to him with pleas and arguments that may convince him, such as the consideration of the financial benefit that the king would have in keeping the Jews alive, at least as slaves and handmaids, and the consideration of the emotional difficulty she would have in seeing her people lost.

She can scold Haman: ‘This evil Haman is a wicked man and an enemy’, with whom there is no point in talking. However, the king can be talked to and convinced with intellectual and emotional arguments.

Hence, it is important to distinguish who one is dealing with and dealing with, whether he is a ‘dog’ with whom there is no point in talking, or a ‘lion’ with whom there is room for talking on intellectual and emotional grounds. And wisely, with a hint 🙂

Best regards, Sh”t

Dear Haredi, I am amazed at you, “Gadoil the Healer” is knowledgeable about cannabis without a doubt, and the evidence is, he prepared the plant for Passover and all year round!!!

Gorlin,
Let's assume that in order to prepare a plant for Passover and all year round, you don't need extensive knowledge of the type of plant and its effects,
But if filing idle complaints against rabbis is what’does it for you’ – Good luck. I won't ruin the joy of the mitzvah and the fervor of zeal for you…

Apparently they showed the rabbi the plant and asked him if it contained any traces of chametz or legumes, and he examined it and saw that it was not a grain or legume. He was asked about this and he answered.

A parable of what this is like, that a stain would be brought to the rabbi and he would rule that the woman was pure, without informing him that the stain was from a gentile, and then they would boast that the rabbi had permitted the entry of a gentile.

A rabbi who is presented with a halachic question assumes that the questioner is asking as to the matter, and accordingly he answers according to halachic. Those who ask with the intention of stumbling are rare, and they are exposed very quickly, and the disgrace ‘at the end of the day’ is only theirs..

With blessings, Sh”t

Dear Haredi, for the sake of this matter, let's just assume that "Gadoil the HaDair" was certain that they had brought him a mint.

Honorable Rabbi, what is the analogy of this, that they should come before the Rabbi who does not know what form of coin it is, so that he may rule on the laws of money, as well as that the Rabbi should be faithful to his sons who are not bastards when he saw his wife only once (months before the wedding)?

In the 12th of Adar, 5771

Regarding the ’claims’ of Mr. B’G, I have already replied that for the purpose of the question put to the rabbi – whether the plant brought before him is a grain or a legume – the rabbi does not need great botanical expertise and knowledge of all the properties of the plant. All that is needed is to make sure that it is not a grain or a legume.

However, it is worth noting that not every mixture of cannabis is addictive. For example, in Belgium, where the law is stricter regarding marijuana consumption, the Jewish baker Mr. Levy was nevertheless allowed to bake the ’cannabard’ containing 15% cannabis. This bread has the taste and smell of cannabis, but it does not have an addictive effect, and therefore the authorities have allowed Levi bakeries to market cannabis bread in supermarkets in Belgium.

I have learned that a 15% cannabis mixture is not addictive and is legal in Belgium – there is room for a halachic reference to it. We must check what the legal authorities in our country say about cannabis diluted to such a level. Is it permissible to buy a ‘bit’ of cannabis bread 🙂

And like myrrh and myrrh, we buy a bit for customs, and fill it with burkas, and for the blessing we have two kess, like a birkas, sh”tz for vingras

On the Belgian ’cannabard’, see the article: ‘The Jewish baker behind Europe's first cannabis bread’, on the website, Haaretz’