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Yaron Yadan

asked 4 months ago

I once heard the Rabbi Motz Rabbi Yaron Yadan, shlita, claim that he found errors in the Gamma, perhaps also in the Mishnah and other books of Toshab. It is possible that he also claimed that the Toshab is not closed on this, and said that if it is the word of God and God does not make mistakes, if errors are indeed found, then the Gamma and the rest of Toshab do not originate with God.
I once saw on the internet, some really wonderful excuses from some wise scholar one to one about the GM in patients with the three breathing tubes of the cow, which in fact only see 2 after slaughter because one of the tubes is terribly thin. About the poison in cat claws, which is actually dirt that creates an infection when it scratches another animal. About the fish whose scales fall off into the water, I don’t remember everything. But before me, who even answers him. Everything he claims is only in the case of God making an apparent mistake. What if God makes a mistake on purpose in order to test us?


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מיכי Staff answered 3 months ago
Because there’s no point in testing us for errors. Is he trying to make sure we’re not honest, Rachel? Where did this strange thesis come from?!

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אביעזר replied 3 months ago

Or not necessarily to test us, but he wants to play himself wrong for his own fun, you understand celestial beings?! He is not in our clique.
And I don't know if he is trying to make sure that we are not honest! Do you know?

מיכי Staff replied 3 months ago

Obviously. It could also be that he doesn't exist and a deceptive demon wrote the text. It could be that every word there has a different meaning than we think. It could also be that we got confused and read Kopi instead of the Torah. Anything could be. The question is not what could be, but what seems plausible, and what claim that arises requires evidence. Yadan argues, and rightly so, that if there are errors in the Torah, it means it is not divine until proven otherwise (i.e. the claim that he wants to confuse us or something like that is the one that requires evidence). Do you want to argue that the starting premise is that he wants to confuse us, and whoever claims that he is honest has the burden of proof? With a defense attorney like that, I don't need Yaron Yadan. You will undermine faith in the Torah even without him.

שואל replied 3 months ago

And what will you do with the Gemara of Shahak HaKaba, who said, "Conquer me, my son, conquer me," and gave the seer supernatural powers to change the world order, including the deliberate deception of a female voice, and to test the sages to see if they would be impressed and all of this and throw up their hands?

מיכי Staff replied 3 months ago

A strange question. First, what am I supposed to do with this legend? It could be a mistake. It is more likely a parable meant to teach all sorts of things. Either way, it is clear to me that Bat Kol does not mean to mislead. It expresses the position of God Almighty and the sages reject it according to the rule that it is not in heaven.

אביעזר replied 3 months ago

According to what you say, the question is not what can be but what seems likely. That is your starting point. What if someone is looking for the absolute truth, and he has not yet reached it. Whether he assumes that one day he will achieve that truth. Whether he assumes that it can never be achieved by our intellect. In the meantime, let him choose the path that suits him. Because all paths are currently considered incorrect. Because 99% belief is equal to 0 as far as he is concerned. What do you think about that?

מיכי Staff replied 3 months ago

Good luck to him.

אביעזר עבד ה' replied 3 months ago

Look, knowing what's absolutely true or real is a little hard. Knowing what you want to do is easier.

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