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A reduction that is not as simple as it seems – a division in consciousness

שו”תCategory: philosophyA reduction that is not as simple as it seems – a division in consciousness
asked 5 years ago

Peace and blessings,
First of all, I wanted to note that I greatly enjoy the Rabbi’s lesson series, most of which are like cold water on a tired soul, even for those who have read the trilogy.
Regarding the series of lessons on ‘God and the World – Tzimtzum and Providence’ – in my understanding, the main problem the Rabbi has with the non-literal understanding of Tzimtzum is the question of what the meaning of God telling a parable to Himself, talking to Himself, what the meaning of the parable is, etc., and the fact that the Rabbi does not accept the possibility of God being divided into several consciousnesses.
Despite the above reservation, which I accept and understand, we have found several similar divisions that I have not heard the Rabbi disagree with – the division of the soul into the N”N H”N, the parts of the soul of Maimonides, the duality of body and soul (when the brain and consciousness are at a certain level in the body), and more. Does the Rabbi rule out the possibility of different levels of consciousness in the above divisions? After all, it is possible to speak in a meaningful way (=not nonsense) about the verbal part and the awakened part that maintain a “dialogue” within the human soul. Does the Rabbi also rule out such possibilities and put them in the category of nonsense?


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מיכי Staff answered 5 years ago
Absolutely not. And aren’t there objects that are divided into different parts?! A table is divided into legs and a plate. Our soul is divided into intellect, will, emotion, memory, and more. But the claim that God speaks to Himself is nonsense, and I raised other problematic aspects, for example: What is the point of this parable? After all, nothing was really created? What is the purpose of the parable? After all, if God speaks to Himself, then He knows everything. As mentioned, I see no point in rambling on about meaningless words like “da.” It’s really embarrassing to me.  

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עידו replied 5 years ago

Excuse me, but I didn't understand the answer. And when the different parts of my soul talk to each other, isn't that nonsense? The question of the meaning of the parable and whether things were really created is a different question, I'm currently trying to address only the problematic nature of consciousness that talks “to itself”.

The table is divided into legs and a plate, but they don't talk to each other. On the other hand, my soul is divided into parts that do have some kind of relationship and dialogue between them on a certain level. Can't the same be said about God, who is divided into different parts (God, creatures, etc.) that talk to each other?

מיכי Staff replied 5 years ago

The parts of your soul don't talk to each other. Otherwise, they are different personalities and not parts of the same person. If you are a polytheist, then of course the situation is different. But that's it, I apologize for the rant.

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