On the Duty to Demonstrate Tomorrow (Column 544)
Or: What to Do When “The Wisdom of the Scribes Goes Rancid”?
With God’s help
Disclaimer: This post was translated from Hebrew using AI (ChatGPT 5 Thinking), so there may be inaccuracies or nuances lost. If something seems unclear, please refer to the Hebrew original or contact us for clarification.
Contrary to my usual practice, this time I have decided to address a concrete political event and even to recommend taking a specific stance. The situation requires it. Tomorrow a mass strike is planned across all sectors of the economy with large demonstrations in various locations, and it is very important that there be significant participation and presence of citizens—including citizens associated with the ostensibly pro-Bibi camp—because the situation is truly on the brink. I won’t go on at length here, but I will sketch the picture in broad strokes, and explain why in my view it is so important to go out and take part.
- All the problems in the legal sphere and in the realms of governance and security that the government points to are real. I think this is true down to the very last one. This is to be distinguished from its other actions (cash transfers and deranged religious legislation that rises and falls anew every day).
- But the solutions are outlandish. Each one, taken on its own, could be acceptable (sometimes in a less extreme formulation), but the package created is insane. Full government control over everything that happens, without the Knesset (which already today barely exists) and without effective checks by the court, could produce complete chaos here.
- I am entirely in favor of reform, even reform along the lines proposed by Yariv Levin. I also do not estimate that there is a significant danger to democracy even in the more radical formulations of the reform, and I do not think the disaster reaches the levels described in the media and by the opposition.
- But I am definitely worried about our democratic future (and it is wrong to assume it is self-evident; without getting into comparisons with Hungary and Poland, one must know that nothing is guaranteed. Even today we are not exactly a democracy at its best). Again, I am not entering the definitions of democracy, because that is not the point at all. Call it “Yekum Purkan,” for all I care. I mean a properly ordered state. We are not that, and things will only get worse if we do not go out and fight this. This, despite the fact that I do not think our democracy is about to collapse entirely.
- I also do not agree with the claims that the entire reform is intended to influence Bibi’s trial. That is nonsense in my eyes. In my estimation, nothing will happen in his trial even if the reform passes in full force. To date I have not heard a convincing scenario of how it could affect it, apart from conspiratorial and unconvincing fantasies. It is clear to me that Bibi is not really pushing the reform and does not really want it. In my view it will only harm him personally. Therefore, dragging anti-Bibi sentiment into the battle against this reform is mere demagoguery.
- There is, of course, the damage to our international standing, which currently rests on the existing esteem (rightly or wrongly) for our judicial system—its independence and non-dependence. People who have dealt and still deal with this say that the moment the status of our judiciary is harmed, international investigations and the prosecution of our politicians and soldiers around the world will greatly intensify. We will become a pariah state among the nations. And I know: even now there is a great deal of antisemitism, bias and unfairness, and even now there are people for whom we are pariahs; but at the level of states this is still not the case. One must understand that this is what is expected, and this too must be taken into account. These are not children’s games.
- The economic concerns are very significant in my eyes. Even if one thinks the flight of businesspeople and investors is unjustified and baseless, and even if it is political boycotts, this is the situation and it must be acknowledged. These are forces one should not ignore. The budgets for the Haredim also cannot be granted if there is no money in the coffers.
- But what worries me more than the concerns for democracy is the government’s conduct in other areas. Here are a few examples:
- The country is in security and governance chaos, yet the coalition deals only with judicial reform and changes to Basic Laws whose aim is to make the appointment of criminals “kosher.”
- The casual tinkering with Basic Laws for local conjunctural needs, particularly when those needs are “needs” in the usual sense (a chamber pot—see the previous item).
- The appointment of ministers and the division of authorities are completely deranged, deviating from everything customary until now (and even that was pretty dumb). The feeling is that now it is done brazenly, “from the diving board,” and the substantive considerations that once were at least somewhat in the background have now disappeared entirely.
- Ben-Gvir’s despairing and hysterical declaration of “Operation Defensive Shield 2” in Jerusalem, made on the sidewalk immediately after an attack, without examining matters with the professionals, without plans and without intelligence. The TikTok minister.
- Add to this the genius Miri Regev, who floats proposals every Monday and Thursday at the pace of her media interviews—and sometimes rescinds them immediately. You hear the intelligence of this dimwit and realize that children are playing with our fate and our money according to whims on the level of kindergarteners.
- Think of the blanket cancellation of all decisions of the previous government with no distinction between good and bad (see the tax on sugary drinks, which Deri announced he was considering keeping after declaring it a Nazi, antisemitic decision—until he was scolded and put in his place). Simply because “they” did it. Don’t tell me stories; there has never been anything like this. I am not naive—there has always been politics and irrelevant considerations. Now it is done brazenly, in your face.
- The passage of a hefty tome of an Arrangements Law (the omnibus budget law) that hides insane reforms inside it without anyone paying attention to them (for example, eliminating the participation of professionals and environmental experts on planning committees, and more). Again, such things have happened before, but to my judgment we have never reached the kind of rampant extremity we see today.
- Ignoring warnings from professionals across the board (and yes, I know there are also a few other opinions that don’t receive proper media coverage) in the security, economic, and legal arenas. Even if there are biases—and clearly there are—you cannot ignore such a broad consensus. It is irresponsible.
- Ignoring the economic dangers, which have already begun with the transfer of funds and businesses abroad, and are expected to intensify.
- And we have not yet spoken about the transfers of funds to parasitic Haredim, entrenching their backwardness and ignorance and their lack of contribution to GDP, and of course rolling back the little progress achieved until now. Everyone involved in the matter predicts a catastrophic economic future in light of Haredi demographics that sustain themselves at the expense of those who disagree with them and with whom they do not participate.
- It must be understood that this money is in the state treasury mainly thanks to the public protesting against government policy; it certainly did not come from the parasites who are going to exploit it for their needs. No wonder these taxpayers are angry. And no, this is not about whether money grants them special rights. It is about common sense. I, as a business owner and a big taxpayer, would have left here long ago. They are absolutely right. If the state and its treasury are seized by force against my will, it is no wonder I also act forcefully; and as the Gashash say: “We’ll see who gets there first.” It takes two to tango. It seems to me that a right-wing government (“to the max”) should understand and acknowledge the power of money, initiative, and entrepreneurs. But our “hard-right” government is behaving like a far-left government.
- Insane religious bills, such as imprisonment for someone dressed immodestly at the Western Wall or someone playing a musical instrument there. A takeover of religious institutions and running them according to the most conservative and benighted criteria, which will deepen alienation and the rift with world Jewry.
- All this is done with the full backing of rabbis (the “greats of the generation,” yeah right) and their representatives—that is, all (!) the religious parties in the Knesset. A heavy-handed coalition of the corrupt with the religious. This is a truly horrifying combination. Understand that in these crazy days, dark and primitive rabbis like Shmuel Eliyahu the idiot (see the previous column) are charting the path of Judaism and of the parties now leading the country. Yair Sherki wrote very well and expressed my feelings precisely: they hijacked our state and our Judaism.
Today, in Israel and across the world, Judaism (in its religious sense) is synonymous with corruption, heavy-handedness, racism, childishness, and primitivism. Is this not a terrible desecration of God’s name, beyond the outcomes themselves? Shouldn’t we be rending our garments over this and declaring fasts and days of mourning? In my opinion there has never been a colossal, worldwide desecration of God’s name like what is happening these days.
- These are only a few tiny examples (because I don’t really follow the details of what’s happening). The feeling is that this is the unbridled rampage of irresponsible children who decided to change the entire universe in two days, as if they were playing in their sandbox and not with the fate of us all.
- In light of these steps, of which I have brought only a small sample here—and all this in just one month—think what awaits us going forward. This connects to the earlier items above: if there is no balancing factor (because of the steps—mostly justified—that are intended to diminish the influence of the judiciary), and if such steps and even worse are expected, where are we headed?!!!
- Polls show that even Likud voters no longer stand behind these decisions. Sane right-wing journalists (there are such, as opposed to Irit Linor, Bardugo, Erel Segal and their doped-up friends), like Yair Sherki, Shlomo Piotrkowski, and Amit Segal—who definitely support this government and even the principles of its judicial reform—are coming out against it and against some of its actions (mainly in the religious sphere, and not only there).
In a poll by Mano Geva that I heard this morning, it was published that 62% of the public supports stopping or delaying the judicial reform. So the slogans about the will of the public and the people, and about accepting the election results, have gone into the trash. But it seems that this runaway train is stopped by nothing.
- All this is accompanied by a terrible desecration of God’s name. Demonstrating about Sabbath desecration or about granting rights to LGBTQ people by the government is a tasteless joke compared to what is happening here. I am prepared to publicly desecrate Shabbat by a Torah-level prohibition before the whole world, with witnesses and warning, and to enter the Western Wall in a swimsuit with a piano on Shabbat, in order to bring down this evil government. If that is not a “sin for the sake of Heaven” and a sanctification of God’s name, I don’t know what is.
- Until now I recoiled from participating in the protest because I disagreed with the various nuances that were dragged into it. I did not like the preoccupation with questions of the occupation and other leftist vegetables (Palestinian flags) in these demonstrations. I also do not like the fact that the leadership and spokespeople there are mainly people of the left, and I did not like the tendentious and hysterical presentation of the problems and fears—talk of the collapse of democracy and the loss of freedom (academic, press, civil rights) in an “Apocalypse Now” style. As noted, I do not agree that this is the situation, but even without the collapse of democracy the situation is horrific. Unfortunately, until now I have not found demonstrations with which my heart was fully at peace, and so I stayed home.
- But no more. My feeling is that staying home because of such reservations is like the reprehensible conduct of the Haredim, who opposed the establishment of the state and Zionist activity, tried to torpedo it in various ways, and certainly did not assist it; and when they saw that it was succeeding against all odds, they joined—mainly to milk the cow that was created here. They, of course, did not forget to point with great criticism at the secular character of the state and its problematic conduct (for this reason they do not say Hallel), while ignoring their vast and singular contribution to this very situation. As surprising and disappointing as it is, when you leave the arena to the secularists, it becomes secular.
This is exactly how I feel about the leftist character of the demonstrations these days. I ignore them because the leftist nuances don’t suit me, but that very indifference is, among other things, what creates them. When you leave the arena to the left, it becomes left. Whoever does this cannot later complain about the work of his own hands.
- In my eyes, all these reservations are nuances. The situation requires giving up on fine distinctions and excessive purism. Now we must go out and voice protest loudly—some against the occupation, some against the rampage, and some out of fear of the collapse of democracy. In the final analysis, all these are characteristics of this government, each according to his concerns. If we do not come out now, forcefully, against this insane government, beyond the severe damage that awaits us, things could indeed reach the use of actual force—and voices to that effect have already been heard (which I fully support).
One must understand that a clash with the High Court is now almost the most plausible scenario, and when that happens there is no way out without the use of force. Consider a situation in which the government passes the “corruption law” (barring the High Court from intervening in the appointment of a minister—Deri 2) now on the table, and the High Court then strikes it down, as of course it should. Note that this is the striking down of a Basic Law—problematic in itself, but necessary at this time. The government has already declared that in its eyes this is tantamount to a military coup. Very well—so it happens anyway. Now consider what a policeman or a soldier (and also a citizen) will do when he receives an order from such a minister or prime minister. Should he obey it? Or should he go to prison? There will be soldiers and policemen who obey the High Court, and those who obey the government. I will add: in my view the High Court must strike down this law even if it finds no legal justification for doing so, despite the fears about the situation that will arise—and perhaps precisely because of them. Yes, yes: this is the use of force to lead and to save sanity. In a situation of lost sanity it is permitted and proper to consider illegal actions. Absolutely.
- Beyond the horrors themselves, the terrible desecration of God’s name caused here, the absolute loss of direction of all rabbinic and political leadership—religious and Haredi (!)—who all now appear, with complete justification, as a gang of corrupt desecrators of God’s name—this has never happened here. The black rabbinic frock has become a symbol of corruption, primitive falsehood, and heavy-handedness—and the worst part is that this is entirely justified. This is no longer mere antisemitism. Who could fail to understand and justify the prevailing sense now that Judaism means primitive darkness, corruption and lies, force, parasitism, and childish derangement? This is a religious and spiritual crisis, and whoever sees it and does not come out against it is collaborating with it. If there is judgment and a Judge (if not in this world then perhaps in the world to come), I have no doubt that all these are destined to give an account. They will sit in a nice place in Hell (if there is such a thing) together with all their great ones and rabbis, who will set up a yeshiva on their graves and on our graves. Best of luck to them—and to us.
Go out and demonstrate, friends. Raise your voice and bring the ark out into the public square (this is not about stopping rain, or the contempt for God’s name that incurs excommunication, but about things far harsher and more serious. This is truly a case of spiritual crusades). We must not remain indifferent to all these horrors. We are in a situation in which the leaders and rabbis who, for some reason, are considered the “greats of the generation”—through no fault of their own—have almost all gone rotten, and salvation must sprout from below, as per (Sotah 49b):
“The wisdom of the scribes will go rancid, and those who fear sin will be despised, and the truth will be absent.”
And it will not be pleasant to the listener!!!
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You've gone completely crazy.
Instead of fighting the corrupt legal dictatorship, you've been making all sorts of strange claims, most of which are irrelevant.
The most absurd text you've ever published.
History will never forgive you for siding with the corrupt dictatorship.
Better the sane Segal and Bardogo than Shreki and the bunch of pretentious people. If the reform doesn't pass - this is a point of no return. This is the end of the democratic Zionist state (it's not certain that we've passed the point of no return. A generation of idiots has grown up here, who are certain that democracy is the rule of unelected officials, it's surprising that you're among them).
This is the fundamental point: Who is the sovereign: the public or an unelected junta.
In your crazy coordinate system, I did go crazy. And that's a good thing. As you know, a straight line looks curved in a curved coordinate system (that's why they talk about a geodesic line, not a straight line).
I am saddened by history that the people did not see the gates of the Temple opening by themselves 40 years before the destruction, symbolizing the imminent destruction and interpreting it as a good thing.
I am saddened today that some of the people do not understand the destruction that Bibi and his gang and those accompanying him are inflicting on the people living in Zion and still think it will be better.
Nachma Porta, our rabbi is beginning to understand the imminent destruction that Bibi is leading us to (even though in the past the rabbi was not willing to listen in this direction)
At least our rabbi became a Baal Teshuvah and decided to look reality in the eye and admit that if destruction is imminent, this is the situation.
Rabbi, you spoke the truth.
Correction:
“Happy to hear about the deaths of Haredim in the Meron disaster ….”
You are rude and a complete idiot
Unlike you, a learned and multi-faceted opinion was expressed here, while you are the one who piled up a pile of unsubstantiated nonsense and full of slogans and clichés
of your shoes
With me, the government also needs officials... and competent and professional officials. Not just those who say yes. That's the essence of the matter. That's the danger. There will no longer be any professionalism. Only power and Shalit's personal interests
The government should control the officials, not the other way around. The job of the officials is to advise and implement the voters' policies. If they oppose the policies, they should resign. It's like a refrigerator technician I ask to fix my refrigerator and he decides on his own that I should throw it away. And by force. And won't let me call another technician. Then he'll stop by the court, etc.
And as if this company doesn't have a lust for power and interests. They just win.
How stupid can you be?
Really? Such a lack of intelligence. It's just unbelievable.
In the s”d
The rabbi spoke wonderful words of wisdom to me.
It is indeed rare to find such a subtle combination of stupidity and fascism. You are undoubtedly blessed.
The first few lines are a bit inconsistent in my opinion.
If you support Levin's reform lines, why go out and crowd the ranks with a public whose majority expresses irrelevant, unreasoned, uninformed protest, and in other parts – a public that protests at every opportunity and does not act in good faith when asked what it really protests about. Any sensible person understands that some of the more consistent minds who come out to protest every time there is a storm in a cup of tea against the government, are simply people who go out to vote in unconscious protest of the anger they have towards this thing called democracy and the fact that Moroccans in the south have the right to vote and they are voting for Bibi.
Or alternatively – Marxists of Mizrahi origin who cannot stand Bibi's face and that is the end of it for them. I have family members like that.
I'm a bibist like you said (from a family of paupers) why the hell would I want to join a protest that I have no connection or agreement with?
I agree with every word, but I really recommend removing the derogatory names attached to those mentioned in the article.
I didn't notice any derogatory name in my words. See my response to the following talkback.
I don't know you. But I'll be careful in the future when nonsense comes out of your mouth.
To the point. Barak's judicial revolution has meant that for 30 years we have been stuck in a place on the verge of decay. Even if there are some bizarre bills on the way, it's part of a maturation process that we must go through. Otherwise, we will remain stuck forever.
Why? I'm all for him getting it all out. I never liked those fake manners.
A rabbi speaks like this? In the language of the street
Bibasts, parasites
Beyond the many contradictions in the text itself
Shame
Everything I wrote is a clean description of the situation. Therefore, there is neither slang nor slander or insults here. When you say about an idiot that he is an idiot or about a corrupt person that he is corrupt, as well as a parasite or primitive, this is not slang. It could be considered slang if it appeared as a slur or a superlative (actually an underlative).
No slander?
1. In your words, "Bibist" is a nickname for a person who does not think for himself but blindly follows Netanyahu, do not be contemptuous of anyone
2. Haredi parasites – What is the percentage of Haredi who work (men and women), do you also describe Arabs as parasites? Are secular people who go to study history and government or engage in professions that do not provide a living also parasites? Would you dare to call them parasites?
Instead of adding light, you add darkness
It has been said that the wisdom of the scribes will be wasted
Can we take these concepts outside the scope
“Add to that the genius Miri Regev who makes suggestions every Monday and Thursday at the rate of media interviews, and sometimes cancels them immediately. Do you hear the intelligence of this idiot”
This idiot? Your word-hogging is a disgrace and a blasphemy, repent, take a writing fast and get back to writing
Elad, Miri Regev indeed brought shame to the Israeli Knesset
The rabbi only stated facts. Do you think that Mrs. Regev is endowed with great intelligence?
Rabbi Michael,
In my opinion, among the protesters there, both you and I are both “amulet kissers”.
The demonstration is against the very right of the right to choose.
Remember, when Menachem Begin negotiated peace with Sadat – they demonstrated against him.
Amnon Lord, a leftist who has sobered up, explained this:
The demonstrations came to say – You are not making a peace agreement. We will force you to sign a peace agreement.
And I cannot help but quote Lapid's words of wisdom today:
“Don't talk to me about unity. There is no such thing as unity when only one side sets the rules”.
That's right. The Oslo Accords were signed by everyone. (All those who did not agree were considered profaners, amulet kissers... and other medical diagnoses as our rabbi added.)
Elad, the rabbi spoke words of wisdom.
“Full control of the government over everything that happens, without a Knesset (which no longer exists) and without effective court controls, complete chaos could arise here.”
It is amazing to me that an intelligent person, who has seen what has happened in Israel in the last two years, is able to seriously claim ‘The Knesset does not exist’.
The government is the one that does not exist. It depends completely on the Knesset. At the will of the Knesset, the government is dispersed, and at its will it exists. If the Knesset wants to replace a person from the government or the entire government – it does that too without any problem.
The ability to write this bizarre sentence comes solely from the aggressive brainwashing of Levin's opponents.
We all saw junior MK Idit Silman dismiss Prime Minister Naftali Bennett along with all members of the government.
This comment is very wrong, very bizarre, and tarnishes the entire column.
This nonsense has already come up in talkbacks on previous columns. I won't return to that discussion here.
This ’nonsense’ is an unequivocal fact.
Don't return to this discussion because there is no response to it.
Every adult understands logically and clearly sees how the Knesset dissolves the government.
Listen, Nadav, you are really distorting reality. I did learn from your words how reality can be distorted by accurate data. I wonder how many histrions distort history like this.
And the column itself: damage, damage, damage.
This column may be right (it is not), but it is certainly not wise.
No sane person would read this scumbag's abomination and be convinced. Quite the opposite. Even a religious person who was on his way to protest will see the pathetic reasoning alongside the sick terminology and back away. The words of the wise are heard with ease, and these words are certainly not heard with ease, and they are certainly not wise (even if they were written by a wise person).
Delusion. I can't believe I've reached a situation between Miri Regev and Rabbi Michael Avraham - I would prefer the former.
It's really worth checking how you got there. Absolutely.
The change did not happen to me or to Miri Regev.
The gap between the content of this site two years ago and its content today – unbelievable.
No wonder that when this is the proposed alternative – the popularity of Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu is soaring.
Yes, unfortunately, as a devoted reader of the site, I had to take a break. And here I dared to peek for a moment to see where things were going. Here is the result. A huge disappointment. He is trying to be right. He came out very unwise.
There are of course at least two possible interpretations here.
I really wondered where Ch”el and Mordechai went. Well, it makes me very happy to hear about it. I would rather be the only one here on the site who opposes him. He really isn't worth treating anymore. But we need to prevent the drift of soft-hearted people who are frightened by bold-faced people. And I have enough courage of my own to burst his inflated balloon.
Emmanuel,
You have enough courage, no doubt.
You could do what you claim to do (pop the balloon) – you don't.
In any case, you must speak with respect and courtesy.
(Although our rabbi, unfortunately, took a non-Alayah Yisrael approach).
I identify with Nadav.
As a follower, the change in the rabbi's writing is striking. The writing style has become bitter and impulsive.
Nadav, the column convinced me. The rabbi said, "Words of wisdom, how are you blind to reality?"
Hello Rabbi,
Until today I have read all of your books, followed your columns, your YouTube lessons and your answers, and I have always agreed with you on everything.
I began to feel that I was starting to be influenced and maybe, God forbid, losing myself.
But here comes this column and proved to me that we will not agree on everything.
Of course, there is a lot in your above arguments, but I will not give support to these hysterical demonstrations.
In any case, be strong and courageous and continue to demonstrate free and critical thinking.
The words of the sages are heard with ease.
The words of the rabbi were certainly not heard with ease, and this is the easiest evidence that these are not the words of the sages.
You have not made any argument here that can be argued with.
Every word of the rabbi!! May God bless you!!! I have been in Tel Aviv for several weeks now against the government of malice, oppression and destruction.
We are all shaking...
I am proud to be your student.
Strengthen your hands.
1. The impression may be created that this government should be supported out of love and affection, or protested, and it is not. Much of what you wrote is correct, and as a Likud voter I am very unproud of some of the things that are happening. And yet, the hardship is worth the loss. Given the trivial projects, legal reform is the most important thing on the table today. More than the cost of living, more than education, more than a revolution in the police. In that case, you hold your nose and rush to do it before the window closes.
2. The reform seems extreme because it is an opening position. Yariv Levin is a sane person and the final version will look accordingly.
3. The statements about businessmen leaving are complete nonsense and it is not clear that anyone is buying them. First, there are investments in countless countries that are as far from democracy as Alaska is from Australia. Second, if there is such a danger, it is only if the changes are (falsely) talked about as harming business stability and democracy. The opposite is true. And third, a broken system of government is not established because of threats from tycoons.
4. Regarding a political response, this is a serious claim that deserves examination, but all these statements come from someone who opposes reform in any case. When it comes from relevant experts, it will be possible to consider it.
5. No one called the ruling against Deri a “coup.” The High Court’s ruling on this issue was completely justified. They called the bizarre attempt to declare Netanyahu insolvent.
1. We disagree a lot, as the RUPRA itself is also problematic.
2. I wrote in the past that I also think it will be moderated in the legislative process. And still.
3. You are arguing about facts. After all, I wrote that the departure is definitely related to position and political motives as well as to the debate, and still ignoring the result is problematic.
4. This is actually great. Anyone who opposes is by definition biased, and you are waiting for an unbiased opinion to oppose. Wonderful. A logical structure that is completely immune to refutation.
5. Netanyahu's impasse is about as bizarre as the rule 2+3=5. What is bizarre is that they did not disqualify his candidacy in the first place.
In a democratic country, who should have the authority to remove a prime minister from office?
To the court, of course.
Where does the court's authority come from? Who appoints it in a democratic state?
I don't understand what you're getting into. There is a law that talks about the Prime Minister being removed from office. It's not unequivocally clear from the law (because it depends on interpretation) whether a situation in which a Prime Minister inherently violates the court's ruling on the conflict of interest. The court has the authority *by law* to interpret the law.
In case you really don't understand:
The root of the debate is whether the current authority of the High Court is legitimate.
The argument is that the High Court has taken powers that are not its own, and therefore they should be taken back. If we allow the High Court the powers that it has stolen from the public - then the public will never be able to extricate itself from the prison of the High Court. Any elected official who tries to strengthen the public at the expense of the High Court will be disqualified by the High Court. Understand?
In short, all Bibi needs to do is swap the names of the ‘Chief Rabbinate Council’ and the High Court” and he can do whatever he wants.
The truth is – There is no big difference between the institutions. Both are anti-democratic and tainted with nepotism to the core.
What are these differences you are talking about? How self-aware can you be?
Because only the left is allowed to do what it wants. Kill Jews (Altalana, Season 8. Give up territories at the price of war and killing settlers (Oslo and Rabin. Documents were revealed that many were willing to pay in the blood of settlers). Deport Jews who have no right to vote (Gush Katif)
Arrest protesters who block roads on charges of sedition, etc., etc.
Your writing indicates a serious mental problem. And yet I will allow myself to correct you (as a moderate right-wing person). Was Rabin willing to pay with the blood of settlers? Is there no more ludicrous statement in your arsenal? The expulsion of Gush Katif a leftist act? It was carried out by a right-wing government and one of the voters for it (how good that by then we were already in the digital age that allows us to document everything) was none other than our corrupt prime minister.
Regarding Gush Katif, I don't believe you actually wrote that. Well. We live in a post-truth era where you can say anything and it doesn't have to indicate any state of affairs in reality. Well. Maybe you're very young and don't know. The deportation was carried out against the backdrop of the opening of a police investigation file against Ariel Sharon. And the deportation was carried out with the support of the opposition. There was a referendum among Likud members (about 200,000 people) about the deportation - before the deportation, and they voted against it. But Sharon, who held the referendum, decided to ignore it in the end.
Regarding Rabin and the settlers, this was revealed some time ago in documents that were revealed about a year ago. See here:
https://www.now14.co.il/%D7%90%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%99-%D7%99%D7%94%D7%99%D7%94-%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%9A-%D7%91%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%97%D7%9E%D7%AA-%D7%90%D7%97%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%A1%D7%9E%D7%9B%D7%99-%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9F/
Who is supposed to have the authority to dismiss the High Court?
I would say the people. But apparently they are an appointment of God.
The court does not have such authority.
Also in the matter of Deri's disqualification, the court ordered the prime minister to dismiss him.
In the Basic Law of the Government, the word "disabled" appears in the context of a prime minister who is not in the country or who has been prevented from doing so..and in another context if the prime minister has died or has been prevented from doing so..
It is clear that the intention is to be prevented from doing so in another sense.
It is also clear that the court can distort the intention of the legislator.
Aharon Barak said that the court is not obliged to take it into account.
And so is Kavkina.
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Regarding the economic damage. It is very funny to me that when there is an almost complete consensus among economists in Israel and around the world (including Nobel Prize winners) that the reform that neuters the judicial system harms the economy, people who lack economic understanding immediately state categorically that it is complete nonsense.
The ridiculous examples of countries like Singapore, etc. do not prove anything.
Prof. Omar Moav (a serious economist, and a man of the economic right), wrote that:
“Empirical research on economic institutions shows that a serious damage to the system of checks and balances, excessive power for the government, certainly a damage to democracy, harms economic growth”
And he also refers to the claims about Singapore, etc. It is a shame to underestimate the intelligence of all but really all economic professionals, including Nobel Prize winners and economists in the world
All these experts (to the bride) are a bluff. They have no expertise. They create the reality they claim to describe. Like a stock market crash. That creates value for worthless things by creating demand based on imagination. Empty people. And whoever is impressed by them also testifies to his emptiness.
All these concerns do not justify this unbearable dictatorship. This is about the independence of the right and of the Jewish people in general. In your opinion, it would have been better not to establish the state at all.
The legal experts are a joke. But they are not the ones we are talking about here
In my opinion, most of those who disagree with the experts do not claim that harming democracy will not harm the economy, but rather claim that reform will strengthen democracy, so the opinion of economic experts (at least those who say men of the type you quoted) is indeed irrelevant to the discussion.
In my opinion, the argument of the reform supporters is not that harming democracy will not harm the economy, but that the reform will strengthen democracy, so the argument of the economic experts you brought is meaningless with respect to their argument.
It is of course possible to discuss whether the reform will strengthen democracy or harm it, but that is a different discussion that has nothing to do with the hours of the economic experts.
Regarding 4, I didn't claim that everyone who opposes is biased. I said I was waiting for an expert who supports the reform in principle, but thinks it should be stopped because the political damage would be too heavy. A person who opposes the reform in any case for ideological reasons, I find it difficult to trust in his political assessment of the situation. I don't understand anything about foreign policy, so I'm not able to assess this matter myself.
Some points to think about –
A. The Knesset is meaningless because all members of the government hold a Knesset member card in their pockets and can vote (or throw out the Norwegian and then vote)
B. The GDP in Israel is different from Arab countries (oil) or China (cheap labor) and is based on an educated and advanced public.
As we have seen, the educated and advanced public in the high-tech sector feels that the government coup is beyond dictatorship.
There are 30 million high-tech people who, if they pack up their belongings and go seek their fortune abroad, Israel will become a third world country that will look down on Turkey's GDP.
Regarding point A - remind me who exactly dissolved the Bennett-Lapid government?
Consciousness engineering on steroids. To realize the will of the voter who has chosen is called a coup d'état. The Knesset and the government are one authority elected by the people, and here by the absolute majority of the Jewish people for whom the state was established and is theirs. And they really care about us primitives. What's the point of holding elections then? They want to appoint a council of high-tech wise men to run the state and that's it. The man of the century is the man of the opinion. It's a shame they didn't say it before the elections.
And if that's how they think, then they're a bunch of idiots. Dictatorship is called democracy. Tomorrow they'll call slavery freedom, etc. If that's the case, even the ultra-Orthodox and religious will replace them with high-tech.
They won't find their luck abroad. In these quantities, they'll encounter anti-Semitism there, like in Germany in the 1930s. And that's already happening in the US. Especially in academia.
Well, well.
"Crazy religious bills, such as imprisoning anyone who dresses immodestly at the Western Wall or anyone who plays a musical instrument there. Taking over religious institutions and conducting them according to the most conservative and dark criteria, which will lead to deepening alienation and disconnection from world Jewry."
Who knows better than me that these bills are meaningless, and are only intended to reap political gains, and not to achieve realization. Therefore, your argument on the subject is illegitimate.
Blessed are you, Rabbi Levi Yitzchak of Berdichev, for raising such students for you.
So what? This trolling, at a time like this, shows a complete disconnect, or a giant "jump on me" towards secularists (a more accurate description would require the use of inappropriate language). Anyone who incites anxieties without accounting for political gain is dangerous.
What a great idea, Rabbi Michi! Thanks to your words, I decided to participate in the demonstrations.
No. Just not this. Don't do this to us. How can we go on living without you?
It seems to me that what the rabbi wrote is a huge blasphemy. Like a cow kicking a milk bucket with a stick.
A shame…
Dear Yossi. This reminds me of the rebuke I received from the rabbi of the Haredi community in Yeruham when I came out against their corrupt coalition with the head of the council (who was subsequently removed). He told me that I was going out of my way and committing blasphemy in my criticism of them. I told him that I disagreed with him. In my view, blasphemy is doing these acts, not condemning them. Blasphemy is rejoicing over the burial of Turkish babies alive and the suffering of thousands of people whose worlds were literally destroyed by them. And if this remains without condemnation or with a substantive debate, it is only an amplification of the blasphemy of the matter. I did not kick the milk bucket but the two-legged cow that created it.
After reading what you wrote, and especially how you wrote it, about Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu and here too, it amazes me that there is no one wise person around you, a person with a little compassion and composure, who could take away your password to the site for a period of cooling down and relaxation, which you undoubtedly need very much. Even the best need to reset from time to time, and there is no reason to be afraid or ashamed of it.
indeed
Two comments or questions actually
A. Is blasphemy supposed to be a consideration? After all, Judaism is often portrayed as dark, primitive, corrupt, and racist by many statements that are published and things that are written. When news was published abroad about the book Torat Hamelech written by famous rabbis, I am sure that assimilated Jews and or deviants and gentiles who read the introduction to the book in the press already thought that there was a tribe of undeveloped chimpanzees in Israel. I am also quite sure that they thought the same way when news was published in the press abroad about the fact that Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, of blessed memory, ruled that Jews were not meant to serve Jews, but rather to serve Jews. Or when Shiron Yadan published English videos about the secular and gentile status of women in Halacha. Or in general when former converts or deviants would publish books about this in the past. For example, if I were a Jew Assimilated from a second-generation secularist or Western gentile - I used to look at Jewish Israelis as mindless monkeys for a long time. And this government would not add or add to it. But perhaps only confirms it for me.
2 Continuing the previous section with a similar principle. After all, it is the people who decided that they wanted corrupt people in the government, people who could legislate religious coercion, people who could make changes that would lead to increased budgets for the ultra-Orthodox and a decrease in their own budgets. And so on. The majority of the people chose this government. Among them was me. Among other things, because there were no other alternatives. And it seems that there are none today. So what good will the demonstration do? Maybe those who want to lead change so much should start thinking about how they promote their liberal-democratic/humanist values in their camp. And find a broad alliance with other camps, including the secular liberal right and the modern Orthodox. Instead of demonstrating and screaming and hoping that something will change in the country?
You need to distinguish between people who don't like what the Torah says and people who don't like the approach of those who represent the Torah. If someone doesn't like a law, that's certainly not a reason not to follow it. But if people treat rabbis as representing corruption, power, racism, and lies, that's blasphemy.
Indeed, many of my words are also directed at those who chose this gang.
Mikhi
The intention in paragraph 1 was probably to say with great exaggeration. For an outsider, radical statements are not a pleasant matter at all. Because if a person expresses himself in a radical and extreme way out of faith. And even if his intentions are good and do not stem from racism. Such statements will look terrible to a person who does not hold the same world of values. But for someone who is already in the believing position or at least a sympathetic or non-negating position towards that faith, the harsh style will not necessarily cause him antagonism. And in the end, I really do not see why Amichai Eliyahu, for example, is in the government while his father expresses himself as he expresses himself (for example). Or why Deri is in the government while he behaves corruptly as he behaves, for example. It is different and more blasphemous than a leader in the Haredi Jewish community in the diaspora who suddenly got into trouble by messing with minors while all the Gentiles are seeing and hearing such statements.
After all, in the modern era, everyone's actions are exposed to everyone and everyone's opinions are exposed to everyone. If a rabbi or a senior Torah figure behaves in an authoritarian manner or represents racism, and there are many who are perceived as such, millions of people are watching this and are already aware of it. Whether they are in the government or not.
Regarding Section 2. Indeed, it is possible that the people make mistakes. And not every choice is always wise, and therefore the big question that needs to be asked is whether those who desire change should demonstrate against the government against the institutions or whether more credit should go to seeing how they speak to the common man or the citizen and try to change the situation through contact with the public, since in the end it is he who gives the mandate and he is the one who determines. And the members of the Knesset and the government are only representatives and nothing more. In other words, isn't it better instead of going to demonstrate to understand why the public alternative today is Ben Gvir Smotrich and Shas and not a moderate religious representation, for example? Why is the traditional public, for example, automatically drawn to these directions and not even ready to Hear, assuming that he is aware of the existence of a modern religious perception at all? (Or at least a more tolerant religious perception towards others) Why does even the most secular public prefer what is perceived as religious coercion rather than a center-right government in partnership with Lapid and Gantz? Wasn't there educational neglect/neglect in imparting knowledge about the value of tolerance, the importance of a complex and non-fomentalist world of concepts, the presentation of alternatives, and so on?
The claim is not directed at you because you are not one of the organizers of the protests or the initiator. Rather, it is a question for the public that initiates and carries them out. It seems quite puzzling and illogical to me to think that a demonstration could change the fate of entire populations in Israel.
A rabbi abroad or in Israel who harasses minors commits blasphemy, but the actions of the current gang are in the headlines all over the world. What's more, they are led by rabbis who are considered important, much more than this or that rabbi.
Ultimately, the goal of the demonstration is to change the government's behavior, not the public. As I wrote, and more data was published today, a clear majority of the public opposes the government's behavior, including those who elected it. Here, the goal of the behavior is the government, not the public. And I write this as someone who usually writes to the public and not to its authorities, because I also believe more in bottom-up processes.
By the way, I remembered that of course part of this "public" (I can't believe how desperate the left and the rabbis are to hold on to power that they are willing to use so many transparent lies and loopholes and believe that the BBCists will really buy them) includes the entire Arab public, of which the High Court is of course its representative in power. So the Arabs will decide for us who will lead the Jewish people. Why not. Maybe you all really will move to Australia? What do you say?
Thanks for the answer.
I was actually afraid that the rabbi would become a Marxist.
As a liberal on the one hand, who believes that a person's fate and responsibility are determined, among other things, by himself. And ultimately by his family and community. And a religious on the other hand, who believes that a person's fate is also determined, of course, by his judgment by God and by how much he is oriented to the knowledge of the Almighty and to actions that are pleasing to the people. I have always opposed both those on the left and those on the right. Who place too much weight in the hands of the state. Who believe that what will determine for people whether to believe and keep the commandments and make the right choices in life is solely the government establishment. The Ministry of Education, the media, and so on.
Not that the rabbi owes me anything, but he was among the most sane, rational, religious liberal voices. I'm glad to see that he hasn't moved on and that he doesn't now believe that government is the be-all and end-all and that it has the solutions to all the spiritual, ethical, and religious issues in our world.
And yet, Rabbi Hirach, are we able to distinguish ourselves from the LGBT flag demonstrations and calls for the end of democracy? It feels unfair to me to participate in a demonstration whose organizers are crying out for such things.
These are not its organizers but some of its participants (and probably not the majority). As I wrote, your absence (and mine) is what makes the demonstrations what they are. By the way, the holy coalition of the ultra-Orthodox and the Mustardim is the one that created the Knesset of a gay man. I have no objection to that, but of course demonstrating against them when there are people with an LGBT flag next to me doesn't really impress me in the current situation. What's more, LGBT flags fundamentally want to express a demand for rights for those people, not halachic legitimacy, and I'm completely in favor of that.
You too are shedding blood in Israel. A demonstration tomorrow will encourage the court in its desperate attempt to oust Prime Minister Netanyahu by impeaching him. Which will certainly result in an attempt to oust the Supreme Court judges and lead to bloodshed here in the Land of Israel. Instead of calming the situation, you are exacerbating it. What is required and we must exert every influence on the president for this is to grant amnesty to Netanyahu and Deri, who will change their incentive map and bring them to calm the reform and achieve it through national consensus.
Do you expect this from him? The truth is from him onwards.
He will always say ‘He understands but in the end he is left. Extreme left. With the Arabs. He is in favor ..but. . … As they say, any lie that is not said at the beginning with the truth will not be heard
And will not help. In Reform, it is related to Levin, the Haredim and religious Zionism. No amnesty will affect this, fortunately for us.
Long live the new Leibovitz!
And I am filled with power, with the Spirit of the LORD, with judgment, and with might, to declare to Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin. {6} Hear this, you heads of the house of Jacob, and you rulers of the house of Israel, who abhor justice and pervert all equity. Zion is built up with bloodshed, and Jerusalem with iniquity. Her leaders judge for a bribe, her priests for a price, and her prophets for silver; and we will swear by the LORD, saying, If it were not for the LORD, let no evil come upon us. 12 Therefore, in your glory, Zion shall be plowed up like a field; and Jerusalem shall be a fountain, and the mountain of the house like the high places of the forest.
Your Honor, with your esteemed forgiveness, it seems that your arguments are to protest against the government and not against the legal reform. In my opinion, there is no substantive argument on this issue that arose from the reasons you gave.
If it is about the right to demonstrate against moves that the government is making contrary to public opinion, on any issue that one does not agree with, whether justified or not, I am with you. It is a right, but it does not indicate anything about the content of the protest and whether any section you mentioned is sufficient for it. There is a discussion for each of the sections and it is not taking place, what is more, the organizers of the protest are not rebelling against it. This is a gathering of anxious people who are attacked daily by the emissaries of a frustrated opposition.
In short, most of the issues that the rabbi supposedly uses to justify the protest are not discussed or weighed. On the face of it, you should encourage the protesters to demonstrate in front of the homes of opposition members who do not raise the issues and do not express a position on them, except for Twitter chatter.
As for what is being discussed, there is no point in going into it because it is a justified reform, even according to the rabbi.
In short, and with apologies, you are simply barking up the wrong tree.
I dealt with the reform in a previous column, so I didn't go into it here. I definitely think we should demonstrate against it too, at least the way they want to do it. But this is a demonstration against the entire conduct of this horrible government.
The fundamental problem with the column and here, in this response, is that you are swallowed up among crowds shouting different things, they are protesting about reform, and you are protesting about completely different things. Why do I have to go and protest at a demonstration that is not about things that bother me (and not you)?
Sure. Why not. Really a reliable poll. Right-wing voters are against a reform that would allow their representatives to do what they elected them to do. Very reliable. From now on, there really is no point in believing these liars.
Rabbi Michi has finally joined the forces of lies. Using seductive language and cunning, he is trying to lure right-wingers into listening to Andy the Left under the guise of objectivity. He really caused a snake's tongue (who knows. The Lord of the Rings)
The economic damage may be real, but it is created by the protesters themselves who go to ”whistle” outside. In any case, the independence of the Jewish people is at stake. This rejects any damage to the economy of this kind.
See here who are Rabbi Michi's friends on the left. See who he is calling you to join
https://israeltomorrow.co.il/civil-disobedience/
Emmanuel, facts have never made an impression on you. Shame on you. Today more polls were published that say this more strongly. But everyone (except you and Bibi) is a known liar. It's hard to argue with people who are drugged.
Where are the facts here? Why should I believe the holy word of the leftists Geva & Co. that they insist that in this case they will lie? I read the news every day and the amount of lies and mind engineering is simply unbelievable. All the media and all kinds of pollsters are working in the service of the communist left. The elections reflected well the opinion of the right-wing (and Jewish) public on the justice system. No one distinguishes between the whole and the details. Maybe some were frightened by the threats. It doesn't seem to me that under a gun to the head (literally. You supported armed resistance) such resistance represents the will of the right (hang him and tell me or tell me in this case)
And what facts make an impression on you? Your lack of self-awareness surprises me every time? Is there even an ounce of truth in you? Not even one bit?
You are simply a mind engineer. A real liar. What sane voter of Bibi (at this time after all the trials against him and with Adayin standing by his side) or religious Zionism or Haredi would be against the reform of his own free will? Against the ouster of Aharon Barak, the enemy of the Jewish people and his silent and evil disciples? Who are you trying to smear? Who?
I'm quite amused to remember how you said there was no point in voting for the right because they wouldn't do anything against the justice system anyway. So here they are, and then you, in panic and pressure from those who moved his cheese, start frantically trying to smear right-wingers here as if we were supposed to be at the demonstration too. Then you threaten resistance with weapons and then in the end those who panicked suddenly oppose and here the right is again doing nothing against the justice system. You are simply a dictator like all your friends on the left. And simply a liar. There is no other word. You are probably also very stupid if you think this is supposed to make an impression (well. Anyway, you think that fat people are stupid and therefore the nonsense you wrote here will work on someone or this is your classic opaqueness). Sure. We will all go tomorrow. Why not.
Also calling on the B-listers (!!!) to come and oppose. As if you are on their side and want their best. Why not. What a weak mind.
By the way, I have no interest in discussing with you, but only to prevent people who are frightened by words from following you because of unpleasantness and a desire to be liked.
By the way. This argument itself is ridiculous. Let's assume that there really are some of Bibi's voters who oppose the reform (?! Really?? Does that sound logical to you?). But it's clear that the ultra-Orthodox voters and religious cynics who are half of the government want it. And to them, the opposition to it by those eccentric Bibi voters is more important. So this is the price that the rest of the coalition members will pay for it. Why would they consider themselves left-wing voters who boycotted them all these years? Why would they even look in their direction? What kind of argument is this that suddenly the government needs to be calculated to the will of the left, which when it was in power no one saw. Who are you trying to work for? How much manipulation? Every possible bluff is being recruited to help your agenda? (which is to overthrow the government as stated) Do you have any ounce of honesty left in you? And how can you think that people are so stupid (maybe I'm really wrong and they are the ones who will buy your nonsense?
Maybe you'll just leave the country for Australia like you said you would do once (to annex the inheritance of other gods) and peace will come to Israel and to you? We accept that people with bad words cause disasters in the people of Israel (although I also speak badly of you here, but it is permissible to speak evil of people with bad words. Of course, when it is necessary)
I agree with every word the rabbi said except for one point:
I think there are things in Levin's reform that are problematic on their own, regardless of the whole. For example, a committee for selecting judges that is exclusively controlled by the coalition is not in any way correct, even if it is the only change.
It is also not correct from a comparative perspective. People like to give the United States as an example, but there is no connection at all between Levin's crazy committee and the American version:
First, in the United States, separate elections are held for the executive branch and the legislative branch. In this model, in which the president is directly elected by the people, the American Constitution divides the authority to appoint judges between the president (the executive branch) and the Senate (the upper house of the legislature).
The president holds the authority to *nominate* judges for appointment, but the entire Senate, by a majority of its members, must *confirm* the appointment. In Israel, the executive branch is not directly elected by the people, so the basic separation of powers that underlies the American system of selecting judges does not exist here.
Second, their proposal for selecting judges does not transfer authority to the full Knesset but distorts the balance of power in the committee in a way that gives the coalition a much larger majority than the real government in the legislative branch. The American model is built on giving equal weight to both branches, the legislative and the executive, in full accordance with the results of the elections in appointing judges.
How does the difference fundamentally change the argument that judges should be elected by the people? What difference does it make that there the president and Congress and Senate are elected separately? It's just another complication.
You're just a pseudo-intellectual
I hope you have a minimum level of reading comprehension to read what I wrote and understand. This is regardless of the fact that there are countries whose format is similar to the Israeli format, and in general there is no country whose format is similar to Levin's. Americans like to give, and this is of course nonsense. Maybe it's too much for you, but I highly recommend trying to understand the differences.
Don't you understand that this is a bluff? Who cares about the system in the US? What matters in the end is that the court there is elected by the people because that is justice. Who cares about the level of balance? Justice demands that the court that invalidates laws be elected by the people. Why, who are they anyway? Moses?
There can be no balance between an elected authority and an authority that elects itself. There is really no point in comparing the US. It is simple justice and that is it.
You are simply a weak-minded person
This is precisely where I disagree. I do agree that it is wrong for the government to have control over the committee, but I am definitely in favor of more influence. But that is not the issue here.
Is your goal in protesting to overthrow the government or something else?
Do you think that such protests will lead to the overthrow of the government?
And if so, do you believe that the opposition will get a majority in the upcoming elections?
My goal is to stop its rampage. If I could overthrow it, I would. But the chance of that is currently quite slim. But there may be longer-term processes. By the way, in my opinion, overthrowing the primitive and dark conservative hegemony in the religious world is an equally important goal.
All these experts (to the bride) are a bluff. They have no expertise. They create the reality they claim to describe. Like a stock market crash. That creates value for worthless things by creating demand based on imagination. Empty people. And whoever is impressed by them also testifies to his emptiness.
All these concerns do not justify this unbearable dictatorship. This is about the independence of the right and of the Jewish people in general. In your opinion, it would have been better not to establish the state at all.
The legal experts are a joke. But they are not the ones we are talking about here
Obviously. There is only one multidisciplinary expert in the universe: Emmanuel. Oh, actually two: Bibi too.
Very mature response. Nothing to say.
And to the point. No expertise in economics (they are experts in the past like historians). None of them can predict the future. I understand a little bit about economics (I studied a little. Especially the capital market). This is a bloated field where mountains of words hang in the air (it depends a lot on the psychology of the masses and investors. To say that someone from this company. The value of companies can rise and fall by 40% in one day. That's a lot of air business. And in general, economics incorporates a lot of policy issues (values). For example, the decision whether to build a train to Eilat is a profitable thing depends on policy. Whether it is a valuable thing in your eyes or not. If it depended on economists, the state of Ishmael would not exist at all. Therefore, there is no expertise in values anyway (remember?)
In short, these experts do not produce too much (if at all. None of their books that I read helped me invest in the capital market. A lot of rules in the air and a lot of consultants and reality behaves itself). By the way, all these "seniors" of various kinds want to continue to maintain their rule over the stupid masses. With common sense, you can get along just fine without them. Even if they were You are right. There is a question here of the independence of the Jewish people to choose their fate and values. People have shed blood over this. Are you trying to scare them with money? I told you that you are a fraud. Unfortunately, Bibi does give weight to these empty boasters. But fortunately, no one in the coalition counts him. I wish he would refrain from engaging in legal reform. I wish they would ignore him like in Gush Katif. The left must learn its own opaqueness. As the wise man said: ” A wise man will find wisdom, but a tribe (will find) a heartless (foolish) body” and whoever is merciful to the cruel will end up being cruel to the merciful. I am very glad that you supported the resistance with armed force here. You have exposed your lie once again. I have already stopped counting.
There is nothing to talk about lawyers. I am in favor of them all leaving the country. With their money beyond their emptiness, they are all soldiers of evil (Reish Segula) God will fill their lack with a bonus. Also in favor of the various journalists, the vast majority of whom are leftists or flatterers. I prefer propagandists. At least they don't try to hide the gold they are trying to sell.
It is amazing how the rabbi managed to take so many and varied claims against the current government and accept them all, including unfounded ones (gloomy economic forecasts from wall to wall?!), with the obligatory admission that ”I am not familiar with the details”. Well, it is worth being familiar with the details.
The heart of the discussion is, as the rabbi also notes, in the following point: “The whole thing is crazy. The government has full control over everything that happens, without a Knesset (which no longer exists) and without effective court controls, complete chaos could arise here”. Of course, if you think like that, then it makes sense to claim that there will be severe economic consequences, etc.’. But that is what the whole discussion is about – and we need to answer the fundamental question first: Who in the State of Israel is the sovereign? And in practical terms: Who has the right to make the final decision - the court or the Knesset?
Surprisingly, when you remove all the background noise, it turns out that the answer for many, many people is - the court. A body that was not elected in a logical manner, whose members represent Meretz and Tzvon in terms of their worldview, and which has taken unprecedented powers for itself (the ability to intervene in any case [the right to stand], the reasonableness of the enlightened person, the emptying of the content of explicit laws, the invention of the right to invalidate laws under the pretext of basic laws and now also the possible authority to invalidate basic laws, interference in every step of the Knesset and the elected government) - is given power.
And this government has a clear agenda, and it effectively neuters elected officials, doesn't let them act, sticks sticks in every possible wheel and actually makes decisions on a host of core issues of principle - immigration, security, citizenship, religion and state, and more.
Yariv Levin has been crying out about this for twenty years. Simcha Rothman has been too, for more than a decade. I've also been troubled for years. So there are people who are okay with a dictatorial rule by an enlightened aristocracy. Not me. Thank God - not even the coalition today, which represents, what can we do, the majority of the people.
I prefer a government that controls everything to a court that controls everything. I prefer a government and a Knesset that you can elect, you can elect a different government, that is accountable to the public, than a group that lives in an ivory tower, makes decisions in the dark and doesn't have to spit at the public.
Were we in more crazy chaos before Aharon Barak's revolution than we are now?! Would a saint say this?!
To Uri - Yashar Kaoh for the reasoned response. I was almost ashamed to hold these opinions in light of the commenters above who expressed the same opinions in a way that would make any sane person ashamed.
And to the point, a question that I think everyone who expresses an opinion on the reform should ask themselves:
Assuming that Miriam Naor was the Prime Minister, and Netanyahu/Smotrich’/Deri/Gafni (choose the one you love/hate) was the President of the Supreme Court, would your position on the reform remain unchanged even then?
This is a good way to see whether your argument stems from a political consideration (I want to transfer power to someone who thinks like me), or a principled one (I think that elected officials should not be given such power/that power should be returned to the people).
Please, there is no need to be ashamed of any opinion, as long as it is reasonable and reasoned. I think your question (the veil of ignorance) should also be directed to the government. Would they have been in favor of the reform if the court had been populated by right-wing, religious, militant judges and the government was left-wing? There are positions on all sides, and by the way, here it really is not completely failed. The governmental structure certainly depends on the nature of the system and the people in it. Therefore, when I see who the government is today, it greatly strengthens my position (which for me is both principled and behind the veil of ignorance) that the reform is going too extreme.
Indeed, I think it is appropriate to address this question to the government as well. Of course, there are those who support the reform in principle and those who support it because it currently serves their interests.
Therefore, I think that laws such as the law that would allow Netanyahu to receive funding for his trial that they want to pass under the auspices of the reform are an indictment against the law's proponents that they support the reform due to interests and not because they think it is right.
This is a question that I am of course also asking myself and in fact I admit that I do not know for sure what I would do in the opposite case. In fact, even now it is not clear to me what the right solution is to the problematic situation we are in. Ultimately, I think the High Court is right in the principled argument, an enlightened dictator is better than a stupid majority, and a majority will usually be stupid (therefore, your protest against Bin Gvir and Regev is wrong in my opinion. This is a problem that will exist in any case where the public elects its representatives and the voice of a teenager who spends his days on TikTok is equal to the voice of a professor of government, so the protest should not be against this government but against democracy). However, on the practical side, I am aware of the fact that a dictator usually does not tend to remain enlightened for long, and therefore the least bad possible stable solution is democracy. So in fact, I am in favor of strengthening the rule of the people's elected representatives, even though I oppose the idea.
Perhaps the best solution is really to pass the reform and at the same time protest against it.
Thanks for the encouragement!
As the Rabbi also responds, indeed if the situation were reversed there would be less support for reform. I, in any case, prefer the people to rule, even if not always to my liking, than a group of undemocratic aristocrats. Democracy is probably not perfect, but it is much better than a dictatorship.
[For example: I think the expulsion from Gush Katif was a crime and atrocity and immoral, etc., but I don't think the court should have overturned it. It had no authority to do so and to discuss it]
What is there to be ashamed of holding an opinion? Is it a suit or clothing? Is it a matter of fashion? If these are your friends, then maybe you really should be ashamed. An opinion is like a vision. Would you deny what you see because of fashion? Are you 13 years old? Waiting to receive sanity certificates from the left? Please, please, confirm my sanity. Please.
By the way, yes, I would support reform even in the opposite case (unlike Rabbi Mikhi). There is no question here at all. But the left is opaque, and in the opposite case, I am convinced that the right would listen. And would be, without any connection, probably legally conservative – that is, respecting the people's choice (that is the meaning of the right. Otherwise, it is just another group. Greens versus Blues). What is funny is that personally I do not particularly like Smotrich’ nor Netanyahu, nor Deri, and certainly not Gafni. But I can do business with them. The left is unbearable. Simply despicable.
Uri Yaakov,
The debate is not about who is the sovereign, but whether there needs to be a balance for the sovereign and what kind of balance. Beyond that, the sovereign is supposed to be the Knesset, but today the government has full sovereignty. As a reminder, the court does not make decisions, but at most invalidates decisions, and even that is very rare. The government makes hundreds of decisions every day. Therefore, these ridiculous comparisons are just demagogic nonsense. And I wrote both here and in a previous column that I am in favor of reform and agree with all (!) of the problems they raise. Just not with the solutions.
Thanks for the response, Rabbi.
There is apparently a realistic dispute here. Unfortunately, the sentence “Remember, the court does not make decisions but at most invalidates decisions and even that is very rare” is very wrong in my understanding. The court did invalidate a small number of *laws*, but it invalidated many more decisions, and emptied many laws of their content, and many more laws and regulations and decisions were invalidated or changed by legal advisors, and many more were invalidated in advance or neutered in advance due to the fear of the High Court of Justice. The court determines, as stated, Israel's immigration policy, the arrangement regarding the recruitment of yeshiva students, the borders and rules in the war on terror, the allocation of land, the relations between religion and state, the allocation of funds in culture, and so on. And in the end, they have the last word on every issue, even in laws that require a supreme effort by the Knesset, it is possible for Heinz to decide to wave them aside.
In any case, what I wrote is more or less what the leaders of the reform have been saying for more than a decade. That is why they see it as urgently necessary, and without it, all their attempts to fix things in one area or another are worthless. In their opinion (which I agree with) – At the end of the day, every bill, every decision, is just a jump before the truly decisive court, which is the Supreme Court. And that is what they are coming to change. And kudos to them.
Regarding the relationship between the government and the Knesset – I admit that this is a problem that I have not thought about enough, and it really bothers me less. In my opinion, the Knesset is the sovereign, and if it decides to form a government, then that is what it is. In this case, the reform was indeed presented by the Minister of Justice, but it is supported by a clear majority of the members of Knesset, who are the representatives of the people. They have effective tools to lead their opinion, and as we saw in the previous Knesset – When there is a government without a majority in the Knesset or in a divided Knesset, it does not work.
I wish you a good night, and take this opportunity to thank you for the long hours of challenging, enjoyable, and meaningful reading of the rabbi's books and writings over the past decade that I have been privileged to become acquainted with.
I think if you try to think about it again, you will see that there is no room for dispute. The decisions that were overturned are a negligible minority compared to the government's decisions. Letting the government decide without limitation is much more dangerous than giving the court more power than it should be given. This is because of the differences in roles.
By the way, legal advisors do indeed delay quite a few decisions, and sometimes unjustly (by the way, you can always petition the court or carry them out anyway). The alternative is for the minister to do what he thinks is right and the advisor to advise. From my experience in Yeruham, I know very well what the problem is here and many do not understand it. In the conduct of the judge, each minister makes hundreds of decisions all the time. There is no one who can monitor all the decisions and check their legality and petition the High Court for each such decision. We are talking about hundreds of petitions every day. This requires enormous time, money, and resources, and therefore the claim that you can always go to court stems from a lack of understanding. In Yeruham, there was a council head who made dozens of clearly illegal decisions, and we had clear documents and evidence for this, and we had no way to petition the High Court about all of this. In the end, he did whatever he wanted and whistled about the law without batting an eyelid. Dozens and hundreds of clearly illegal decisions, and nothing could be done. Therefore, there is no option to make all legal advice in all places voluntary. This is a lack of understanding of the practical conduct of such a governmental system.
Here's another piece of mind engineering. A few very important laws were repealed and a thousand were not even brought up for discussion because they feared they wouldn't pass a High Court of Justice test. And all the other government decisions were not principled but administrative. This is like making claims against a tyrant who killed five people but in doing so managed to impose his terror on the rest of the people.
The whole discussion about Yeruham is a bluff. If this is the situation there and despite this the residents continue to elect him, then you need to get out of there and not force your morality on the residents by force. I'm in favor of you getting out of the country if you don't believe in the elected officials and are trying to force yourself on the public by force. The judges and advisors also do whatever they want without batting an eyelid. And they weren't even elected. And they're also stupid and corrupt and lacking self-awareness. At least the head of the council is just corrupt and that's it (maybe also lacking self-awareness but not stupid like the lawyers of their kind).
You simply want an enlightened dictatorship. Me too. I just think you and your friends are not enlightened at all. Just infantile and numb.
And unfortunately, most of those who protest and oppose the reform do not think like the rabbi, but rather think (in one way or another, in one formulation or another) that it is better for the court to be the final arbiter.
I'm really not that impressed.
I don't remember in Gush Katif that the High Court listened to anyone. He said he doesn't interfere in political decisions (I'm kidding here). And even Cheshin said that Arik Sharon wasn't put on trial because it was the will of the people (!). A real balance of power in its entirety. A real rule of law and justice. As the saying goes, everyone is equal, but some are more equal. There is no question of balance here. When the left ruled the court, it only helped and gave it more power. All this talk about balance is a bluff and a smokescreen. There is a dictatorship of the left here that needs to be crushed with all its might. Sell your ideological garbage to Rafi, who thinks otherwise.
You are wrong, a terrible mistake. I am a symbol of feeble-mindedness and I did not buy the ideology. (Even if I had a penny in my pocket, I would not be in such a hurry to spend it. It is a rare coin in 2023.)
This response was humorous, but I will take it seriously because I throw out these two words every 10 minutes or so and I want to explain that I don't just use violence. I use the right and appropriate violence against those who are violent themselves. It's really an oriental martial art. When I say "weak-minded", I mean someone who has no sense of criticism and adopts the opinion of those who shout louder and more terrifyingly and are accepted by society's beautiful and correct ways and wants to be a part of them. Someone like that really has no opinion (not only does he not have an opinion of his own, but he lacks an opinion on everything. As they say, his mind (his sense of criticism) is weak. Like a wasting muscle that cannot exert itself (contract))
It's not worth protesting, it will cause you deep heartache. The reform will pass, and it will finish you off for many years. There is no wiser than someone with experience. I was in Kfar Maimon, Ofakim and more, it didn't help us at all then. You can protest, mourn, and hope that you will win the next election. Yes, yes, we also thought then that if there was blood, let's say a soldier shot a protester who dared to leave the borders of Kfar Maimon, it would stop the disengagement. I learned then the power of government firsthand. It's a shame, really just heartache.
Rabbi Yehoshua, you are a teacher who sows seeds in hearts. Regardless of positions, I hope the despair will not be so deep. In my opinion, there is a great chance of changing the reform (it is not a question of whether it will pass or not, but what will pass). I have the impression that it is already different from what they wanted at the beginning. The demonstrations will not have a direct impact, but will create processes (economic and legal) that can have an impact.
You have learned the power of the silent left to rule. The referendum has no heart, so nothing affects it. I wish the left would be kidnapped like in Gush Katif. Unfortunately, the right has soft hearts and they are not silent and they are nice and gentle people every day. They do not understand what evil they are dealing with. There is a chance that they will panic. I very much hope not. We must not be complacent about the left. We must let them fight. And not react back. Just protect ourselves from their savagery. Self-defense. We must let them make a mess. That way they will not even be in power anymore.
Rabbi Nechama says some great things and shouldn't be underestimated.
I read the things and don't understand how from your collection of arguments the conclusion is to go out and demonstrate tomorrow? The demonstration tomorrow is against the reform, from your arguments it appears that we should have been demonstrating since yesterday and should be there until things pass.
I agree with most of the arguments and therefore I am a little sorry that it is reduced to a demonstration tomorrow about the reform. We must demonstrate against the moral and almost childish deterioration of our public representatives, but the legal reform is actually critical and therefore it is a pity to throw all the other sick people who are now on the important thing that this government can do (although it would be very good if it did so in a more moderate manner). It is not normal that the demonstration tomorrow offers moderation but rather offers an aggressive negation of the proposal as well as of all those sitting in the current government and probably of many of its voters.
First, it's not true. This is a demonstration against the government and its conduct. The reform is the cause that unites most of the public, but it's really not just that. And of course these are not two separate issues.
Beyond that, the reform is important, but not in its current form and shape, and therefore it is actually important to demonstrate in order to balance it. The demonstrations will not cancel it, there is no such fear. But they may help to moderate it.
Since time immemorial, if the head of state is an honest man, then the ministers are honest, and the officials are honest, and so on. And if not, then not. These are the correct understandings for every nation. Since time immemorial, the masses have tended to be drawn to leaders who glorify their self-love. Thus, for example, most of Israel greatly loved Ahab (who, according to the sages of Israel, was utterly wicked) but rebelled against David (the true standard of a worthy leader according to the prophets of Israel). If David needed Nathan the prophet to straighten his path, how much more so did Ahab, one of several leaders in recent generations. In democracy, the most reformed form of government in recent generations, there are neither kings nor prophets, but public emissaries elected by the people, with the legislative and judicial branches having the task of restraining the executive branch, and every person is entitled to criticize the government. The responsibility of every government: to hear all voices, to maintain unity, to act with moderation. The larger the majority in power, the more cautious the leaders must be, lest the majority pull them in an inappropriate direction. When there are substantial disagreements among the people, then they should speak patiently and try to reach an agreement. God forbid, they should act arbitrarily. The world does not exist except for those who restrain themselves in times of strife. Its ways are ways of pleasantness, and all its paths are peace.
More confusion. Only the left is allowed to behave arbitrarily. Amona, Gush Katif (which the opposition leader claimed was done that way) Oslo Accords, one by one. They trampled the right with force, with impunity and evil. And you talk about maintaining unity? Caution? Moderation? What a joke. What's wrong with you? Suddenly we have to talk patiently. The left won't talk to anyone. In its world, it's the only one that exists and it only talks to itself. Everyone else is an ornament to it. Straight up threatens civil war. A brazen one. They really should leave the country with their money. The left is a bad company and we need to separate ourselves from them and their money. We don't have only God and ourselves.
What should we talk about? That the elected government will be able to uphold the policy for which its voters elected it? To compromise on this to a third, a half, and a quarter? . When did the left do something like this? These people look down on the right and don't see it as having a legitimate right to be in power and we need to talk about it? What's wrong with you?
I forgot about Altalena and Sazon. The Haredim were right. They are simply evil.
I once thought that if a leftist saw an Arab and a Jew drowning in the sea and could only save one of them, he would save the Arab because of affirmative action... These are the people that Rabbi Michi is friends with (maybe he would act like that too. He is also in favor of affirmative action, and it would be rejected in the name of "morality": "You shall not stand for the blood of your neighbor.")
I don't understand the BBists' fetish for Altalena – after all, neither they nor their family members were at Altalena.
If you look at those whose parents were at Altalena and/or fought in that event, their names are an abomination to BBists.
Just look at Tzipi Livni, the daughter of Hatzl's operations officer Eitan Livni, or Dan Meridor, Benny Begin, Olmert, and even Mandelblatt, whose parents were all at the same event.
Is it logical to claim that none of those whose parents were at the same event represent the opinion of their parents, and only those who were not there, those who opposed the establishment of the state (ultra-Orthodox) or those who lived comfortable lives in the US are the true representatives of the Altalena martyrs???
You forgot Livnat. Besides, I'm Ashkenazi. And I studied the history of those days well, and Ben Gurion and the left hated the people of freedom just like the Arabs. Ben Gurion was not even willing to call Begin by his name, and his son was a friend of those who called his father a murderer and made him sick. Their children already understood which side to smear the butter on and who should be flattered. So no. There is no such logic. None of them represents the opinion of their parents. I'm sure their parents are ashamed of them in the upper world and would disown them. Indeed, their names are much more detestable to me than those of the left? They belong to the sect of flatterers. They are among the worst enemies of the Jewish people. And in general, all people of dim hope. I detest them even more than the left.
By the way, you're making me laugh. Do you really think that what happened in Altalena is a private matter of a few families? Do you think there is ownership of disasters? What happened to them could have happened to anyone who didn't follow in the footsteps of the murderous communists. As I read, Ben-Gurion knew very well how to be a man of compromise. Except with Begin. And you still think you can sell me leftist garbage through this.
There is an explanation for the phenomenon you described. The children who grew up in these homes saw very well how much their parents suffered and were probably not ready for it to happen to them. So for political advancement, the Likud was excellent (they were the princes) but as soon as Sharon was threatened by the prosecutor's office, they understood very well which side of the map it was worth being on and remembered the suffering of their parents and family.
It is forbidden to pity the left. Those who pity cruel people, etc.
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So because they ignored you, you're now getting back at them? They trampled you, so are you trampling? If your goal is to get revenge, then fine, but if you want to maintain a serious state here and act in a balanced and responsible manner, you need a slightly different motive. For example, what will contribute now to the people and the State of Israel. The reason to listen to them and talk to them is not only because of this very basic reason that it is the right and proper thing to do (which you would also want them to do to you), but it is also the more correct thing to do for the reform. If you listen, you will be able to hear their very right voices that the reform is problematic (as Rabbi Michi already wrote, you don't have to be too brilliant to understand that he is right), and through real discussion you can reach a more correct decision. Opacity does not lead to good results. Predation usually does not lead to a better place. We saw this when we were 'on the losing side'. Maybe we'll learn something and break this cycle for a change. Maybe we'll try this concept of listening and talking.
By the way, this is not true. If the people are honest, then the people he rules over and those who grew out of him will be honest, and if the people are dishonest and value deceit, they will be deceitful. It is not the other way around. In the case of David, it was indeed the other way around because he was not chosen by the people, but by God, who knows better than the people what is best for them.
You ignored one thing (full disclosure, this time I didn't read the entire post, because I know you so well that I can almost write the posts in your place, as he would say, as evidence, I wrote one such post about Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu's statement in a WhatsApp group, when I saw you the day before you posted it here, declaring that there was no doubt that we would soon see a post from you about it, even before you posted it here) Therefore, what I am doing is only seeing points that you missed, and not just points that we disagree on, because I don't think there is any possibility of convincing you. The point that you missed is what happens to a people who are more than impressed, as you always say, impressed, that the Dreyfus trial was carried out against their government, using every possible means, when everything is kosher, from illegal leaks as usual, to incitement in the holy channels, and he is convinced that at least if they didn't violate him, then they would search for him, which they wouldn't do if he were on their side, and this people has no trust in their judges, who are identified as the enemy's side, And his hypocrisy is his art, and he hides his ideology, and his schemes, and his whims, and his desires, and his control, all under a veil of gibberish, and confusion, and slander, and new inventions every morning as if he were in his best interest, while the method of his appointment, truly a pity for the glory of the State of Israel, out of consideration for the other side, inspires respect, as we know (and soon we will have the assumption that in order to reach the highest, one must lower the lowest). There are judges in Russia as well, and in North Korea as well. What will he do with a people who have failed to share his mind for years and years, and who do not believe a single word of them? Will he accept the whims of the hypocrites under a cloak and let him decide to kill all the redheads? (Sorry, ultra-Orthodox, typo) I ask this innocently and cynically, but my heart is an exact copy of the hearts of this people who voted in the elections, out of the same feeling, even after 4 unsuccessful times, despite the title of "corruption" that the "mother of all corrupt" has attached to it. So when there is a dispute between the majority and the minority about who is corrupt and who is righteous, it is not about what is right and wrong for democracy, but about who is the evil, the son of the son of Balaam the wicked, the uncle of Balak, the brother-in-law of Pharaoh, the son-in-law of Sisera, the father of Vizta, and the husband of Zeresh, is he not the one we know Barak, or the righteous Benjamin? What are you, naively, thinking of giving me the tools, how and what is appropriate, to do in a reformed democratic country? I wonder about you, there is a complete lack of trust here between the hawks. I and my ilk are certain that the wicked and the corrupt are the place of judgment, where the wicked are, and you on the other side think that the corrupt are the politicians. So what do you propose? Apart from the proposal from the mayor of Tel Aviv, a male rat, to shed blood?
It's a bit strange that you say you can write the posts instead of the rabbi. After all, even from the outside, you've combined all the sentences into another, very long section, with lots of commas and not a single period. Have you found a single post by the rabbi that is written in this way?
It's very tiring to read this.
I provided proof of what I said. I already wrote a post in his place, and I scored twice, once on what topic he would choose, a second time, what he would say, "And what about a newborn woman among us?"
In my opinion, section 7 in the column (for those who think that the economic damage stems mainly from political boycotts, etc.) is really a classic special case of column 287. It seems that each side firmly claims that we are in table number 4 (the damage if I withdraw from my position and the damage if I do not withdraw are equal), and therefore we will inevitably reach table number 5, and the conflict is inevitable in such a situation.
To the best of my impression, the supporters of the reform (this is the side in the city that I know) truly and sincerely believe that we are in table 4, so game theory does not predict good things for us…
There are actually many advantages. For example, if high-tech people leave the country in droves, then tens of thousands of housing units will be freed up (several apartments for each high-tech family) and housing prices will plummet (and this is the heaviest item in a family's budget). Tax revenues will drop drastically, but on the other hand, we will be able to cut back on the sloppy spending on security culture and education (the ministry with the second largest budget). We will be able to fight Hamas with rockets like his without the leftist "morality" of fighting. I hope that all the leftist army officers will also leave, and anyway, most combat soldiers come from the right. Finally, there will be officers who believe in the people of Israel. And I hope that the lawyers and war-mongers, and all the lawyers of their kind, will leave. It will truly be heaven. For every attack, there will be a deadly retaliation against the families of the terrorists and their villages. It would also be possible to launch preventive actions in villages, etc.
By the way, there are many investments in dictatorial countries. Like China, Russia (until the war), etc. And here, in general, there will finally be a real democracy.
Wow, what nonsense.
A. The ratio between the decline in tax revenue and the vacating of housing units is really not profitable when those who leave are the ones who earn much more than average (high-tech workers). What you say was perhaps true for those who earn much less than average (for example, the Haredim).
B. It is always possible to cut security and education culture, regardless of the high-tech workers leaving. Regardless, education and security are nonsense???
C. Opposing the killing of innocent women and children by rockets is not “leftist”. The morality of war exists, both for leftists and rightists like you and me.
D. Why do you link the departure of high-tech workers to IDF officers? Their livelihoods do depend on the state…
E. Officers who believe in the people of Israel. Sure, just like you believe in the people of Israel, and want them to leave our country in droves just because they don't agree with you.
I didn't do a calculation and I didn't intend to do one.
I said that there is also something to gain from this situation, even economically in the short term. By the way, I didn't mention that they can be forced to sell their apartments within two years, let's say, and if not, they will be expropriated and receive a price that the state will decide on through an appraiser. I have a strong feeling that the current housing situation stems from excessive regulation in construction (urban planning, environmental quality, etc., which are important but fuel the egos of the inspectors who condemn every project) + the money that the Hittites brought into the country, which caused them to buy a lot of apartments each + the greed of the state (the legacy of the left) that does not release land for construction. There are probably other factors. This is not research, but raw intuition.
And in the long term, I believe that in the mental state of the left today, which is fighting Jewish nationalism today, it will probably pay off in the end, with Israel united stronger than any army and flourishing economically. But it is impossible to befriend someone for whom the words "Israel" cause a reaction in the immune system and who worships the God of "equality" and thinks that I and an Arab with a sick Tz are equal in everything. (By the way, this is a true statement several times in relation to non-Orthodox American Jewry). Someone like that is called in Halacha a "converted Jew" and is considered like a gentile (unless he has repented) in contrast to a "captured baby". And when they threaten us with war. As fools and wicked.
B. Nonsense in education, etc. These are thousands of standards that are not needed. I tell you that schools are anti-educational. And anti-effective. They extinguish the natural desire to learn in the heart of every child. And I have already seen that this system does not serve the children but itself and the children exist for it and not the other way around. This is true, by the way, in all government systems and institutions and throughout the world. In the security of military personnel who are not needed. Military lawyers. Inflated budgetary pensions, etc. ( “An army that has a state”9. A”A today to do nothing because they will strike the army and on the other hand will not allow new officers to be recruited through a petition to the High Court. And this is true for all these systems in education and the other systems and institutions in the country. And of course I am talking about the Histadrut.
A. 40 years ago there was no high-tech and it was very easy to buy an apartment with salaries (after calculating inflation. We will ignore the inflation of 1982. This is a principle) that today are lower than the average. In any case, the enormous damage that the left is causing to the Jewish community costs a lot of money. For example, budgets for Arabs. “Social” insurance for Arabs! ((Where in the world does such a thing sound? All kinds of progressive nonsense that creates invented employment. And especially affirmative action for Arabs!!!? For a people who are our enemy
The level In universities, the humanities are particularly low and really substandard. You can simply close them down until serious researchers are reborn.
C. Children, women, and the elderly are not innocent. They support war (and today we see that they are also fighters. And babies and the like do not suffer at all from death (they have no consciousness at all). The ones who are affected when a child dies are his parents and siblings. Not the baby. There is no such thing as a war moral. It is a joke. There is morality and that is it. If war is just, then it is moral, and if it is not, then it is a crime against the people who are just. And whoever shows mercy to the cruel will end up being cruel to the merciful. That is, to Jews, as our eyes have seen here a thousand times. I am not interested in people like that here. They will eventually turn their weapons on us. In short, leftists are not really cowards, and when the moment of truth comes, it is exposed time and time again. In Amona, they beat small children and broke their bones, etc.
D. I say that most of the officers The IDF is not for the Jewish people and they are more harmful than helpful, and therefore we will not lose from their departure (not necessarily financially because of their salary. Although officers who are devoted to the people of Israel fight for their families and for the Jewish people, who are also their family, and not for an empty instrument called the “state”). And they are the ones who push for surgical operations on Arabs. It costs us blood.
All attacks are funded by National Insurance for families, beyond the unintended financial damage of the loss of the family and of a Jew to the people of Israel. From the left, I and an Arab are equal in everything (maybe from your point of view too). I have no need for such people in my society and in the society of the people of Israel. They are more harmful to the filth and society than they are helpful to it. Like stars with egos on soccer teams who think they are worth more than the team. See the article Ronaldo and Manchester United. As soon as they threw him out, the team took off.
Not all A legitimate dispute. For example, I can think that I have the right to live and the Arabs just generally “disagree”with me that I have this right. The disagreement here between me and them is about the preference of Jews over Arabs, that is, about the Jewish people as a family. And this is our basis for togetherness. If there is no agreement, it is impossible to live with them and the land belongs to the Jewish people and not to those who deny the existence or importance of the Jewish nation and for him the individual is more important and as a result prefers an Arab over me. He “does not agree ”with me …and therefore the land is not his (he withdrew from the Jewish people) and he is the one who should go.
First of all, I hope that they will repent in this matter at least and that will be enough. If not, then they will indeed leave. I do indeed just believe that it should be done slowly (I am conservative by nature and do not like revolutions. I still Right) in the sense of “I will not drive us out in one year, lest the beasts of the field multiply upon you. Little by little I will drive us out from before you until you have filled and possessed the land”
What is more, whoever remains will have to work hard on unity and the purification of the ego. Truly, it will be a situation of us against the rest of the world, both in security and in difficulty, and we will need the help of God Almighty. It will not be easy. I only hope that it will pass smoothly without growing pains
Man, you are a genius!
Our little one is thicker than your waist.
I estimate that you are unable to understand the books that the rabbi wrote. He did not “carry” them – he wrote them.
If spreading Torah among the people – which Rabbi Michael Avraham is engaged in and invests all his energy in, is considered robbery in your eyes – you have nothing to look for
here
I'm trying to understand what this column has innovated. All these arguments are made by the left-wing spies of the morning and evening. There is nothing new in the arguments. The innovation is that a Talmid Torah scholar is apparently the only one who adopts all the left's arguments. But you haven't seen yourself as part of the Haredi-Haredi Likud bloc for a long time. You probably don't agree with them on most things. So it's quite natural that you would agree with anyone who comes out against them. So the goal is other than repeatedly stinging the Haredi, Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, and Miri Regev?
By the way, the left doesn't worry us. Because in any case, until there is a solid demographic majority of Haredim here, nothing will really move. The left is incredibly strong and controls all the real centers of power.
The problem is that there is no agreement among the religious on the purpose of Judaism. We both study the same Torah, the same Rashba, and our reading of Judaism is different in every way. This is a phenomenon.
How can I read the same Tanakh and come to opposite conclusions than you on every issue?
There was already an English poet who wondered why one, when reading the Bible, sees light and the other sees darkness.
The sages of the saints (yes. saints. Moses was called a man of God despite his mistakes or actually because of his mistakes! Even those who deny the divinity of the Torah will understand that generations after him saw him as a man of God – despite emphasizing the few mistakes) have already taught us; the elixir of life for those who believe in it and another elixir for others…
We're not waiting for the demographics to change. We just need a civil rebellion by the right. Not serving in the army, etc. Establishing private militias to protect the religious and right-wing communities, etc. Do you think it's tolerable to live in this situation and this dictatorship because of the violent thugs from the left?
I can only conclude the column by paraphrasing the words of the well-known British historian Hugh Trevor Roper, who summed up Hobbes's book The Whale with these words:
“The axiom - fear. The method - logic. The conclusion - tyranny”.
In our case, “the tyranny of the majority”.
Or is it the tyranny of the minority??
Or maybe a package of salted and roasted cashew nuts???
For Rafi Habana, I will explain: Fear and threats are not the way to learn what justice is.
I am not a regular reader or surfer of the site, but in my humble opinion, Rabbi Michi (I do not agree with him that there is no reward and punishment, I do not agree with him that there is no Torah from heaven, and I do not agree with him on many other things, but there is still Torah in it that in my eyes demands respect for every person, every Jew, and everyone who has Torah in him, and therefore I will respect the Torah in him) wrote that there is a serious problem here that needs to be protested against – I do not share the Goa'uld cries of the extreme left (this is the only left that remains. The moderate and Zionist left is dying in my mind and in my heart somewhere in the murder of Yitzhak Rabin, unfortunately. Yes, unfortunately, Jews are not murdered, certainly not in office, certainly not with the argument of a "persecutory law"; every person who threw him in the State of Israel has an understanding of this halakha equivalent to my understanding of comparative Japanese literature. Hint, I do not speak and understand Japanese), the threats of the capitalists (even if they come true) and other cries about the uni-modern government (democracy, renewed Hebrew / Latin) or about our ceasing to be a reformed state in the future (where is there one, in New Zealand? Canada? Maybe Europe? "People think" that Europeans are reformed after two world wars? I thought to myself that the European myth died in April 1945) There is an argument here that there is a problem and an obligation to protest – that is the whole point. Instead of statements, we need actions – but unfortunately everything revolves around emotions and reason is thrown into the trash without recycling. He is right – that everything is left to the left, let us not be surprised that everything will be under the control of the left.
[If I were a theologian who likes to speak in the name of God, I would say: Perhaps the geological earthquakes are a parable of the earthquakes in the country of the dwarves “ because every impending disaster never comes except for Israel” after all, we are also on the (literally) African-Syrian fault line (or vice versa, not interesting) but fortunately I am not a theologian and unfortunately I have not yet been blessed with the revelation of God (he is playing dice at the moment 😉 ]
The style – I disagree.
The content – I disagree.
The submission – I disagree.
The argument – I partially agree. There is a problem here. There is too much blasphemy, it is already meta-blasphemy and a disrespect for Judaism and we need to take a strong path that will return us to the path of sanctification of God. [Full disclosure, I do not vote in the elections for any party because I do not identify with any. So, I do not defend any political side].
With blessings of peace upon us and all of Israel…
So happy to find rabbis like you! I am a settler, a Yemenite, and I oppose with all my might this harsh and narrow government. Everything is so extreme and turbulent..
Thank you for the in-depth analyses!!
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Emmanuel, I'm careful not to delete the nonsense you spread here under every green tree, the readers can figure out for themselves how to treat it. But here you crossed the line. If you continue like this, all your comments on the site will be deleted. At least I can stop gritting my teeth for pluralism.
It's a shame that messages are deleted, especially when they come from intelligent people. If Emmanuel and his ilk are afraid to write, the site will lose much of its vitality. Heartache
I assume you know my policy that strictly denies censorship. I grit my teeth and hold back to let everyone, more or less intelligent, express themselves. Intelligence is not a factor here. Emmanuel Vanentroll, who repeats nonsense with determination. It is not a lack of intelligence (I know him personally), but a kind of drugging and opaqueness that leads him to inappropriate responses. Yesterday I warned him, he repeated an inappropriate response again, and from now on he will be deleted. That's all.
It's hard to believe that the rather stupid text, on the level of a 15-year-old high school student, was written by the same hands that wrote Two Carts.
There is always a difference between different hats in the human soul.
If you were alive at the time of Balaam, would you believe that the same person who knows the knowledge of God and writes books about prophecy and the truth of God and the ways to reach Him is the same one who writes stupid texts on the Internet calling on the King of Moab and his ministers to go on a revealing and sexual demonstration in order to seduce the young men of Israel. Out of fear of Balak's democratic rule over the land of Moab?!
Be strong and courageous, Your Honor.
Dear Rabbi Michael
In the words of Bibist “Bias”
I have been following you for three years on all platforms
A devoted follower and admirer
To fall for the slogans of Channel 12 and 13 like that, what a fall.
The only lesson I have found is that the Haredim have not missed a single opportunity to miss
I will continue to follow you devoutly despite what you have written
I don't understand what you have against this terminology? In my opinion, it's a cult that follows a person without consideration. That's called bibism. And because this or that channel uses it, is it forbidden to us?
Spelled: ” Without consideration”
Read: “Their opinion is different from mine”
https://tamritz.wordpress.com/2023/02/13/theocr/
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Then we'll see what their reaction will be.. Another progressive
“To this day I have not heard a convincing scenario of how this could even have an effect, except for conspiratorial and unconvincing delusions.”
Here is a simple scenario:
Step 1. Legislate the abolition of the reason for reasonableness.
Step 2. Split the role of the Attorney General, and transfer the authority of the Prosecutor General to a new person (from a human being, of course). So far, the coalition has declared that it intends to do so.
Step 3. The Prosecutor General (Berdugo?) withdraws the indictment for reconsideration or something like that, the High Court cannot determine that it is unreasonable, and the Jews had a light.
But they also don't believe in the High Court and think it's corrupt too. So it makes sense to cancel indictments anyway. Isn't that what happens when there's no trust in a court? All its rulings are also canceled from the past.
You also need the consent of judges to withdraw an indictment under the existing law... but the existing law can also be changed. With a majority of 61, anything goes.
I suggest you write in a matter-of-fact manner, that way you will respect yourself more and your words will be heard.
Terminology and derogatory nicknames do not make your readers agree more with the content you write, perhaps even create an anti.
In my opinion, writing that is factual is much more convincing, because it shows that it is written from pure thought (as much as possible) and not from emotion.
“And we haven't even talked about money transfers to the parasitic ultra-Orthodox”….
Do you have that in mind, most anti-Semitic?
But what should one actually expect from someone who considered positively withholding/postponing medical treatment from someone who did not comply with the sacred institutional guidelines regarding the Corona vaccines..
It's sad to see where you've come to, Rabbi Michi
The gates of repentance are not closed
A very brief introduction. A friend of mine directed me to a scanned file containing articles from the newspaper “Lvovskaya Pravda” (=Lvov Truth) that preceded the closure of the last synagogue in the city in 1962. The campaign, which was planned in detail, looked like this:
Publish an article about a fight that supposedly took place in the synagogue
Publish another article about speculators who make dubious deals inside the synagogue
Publish petitions from Jewish residents employed in one factory or another, calling for an end to disturbances in the holy place
Publish letters from “ordinary Jewish citizens” who were horrified to read the articles and petitions and decided to support the initiative to close the synagogue.
Close the synagogue.
So the left and the right-wingers who don't recognize a campaign that started around 1977: the right is illegitimate, every decision by the right is the end of democracy, and now we will publish a petition of a hundred scientists and fifty officers warning of the end of democracy, and we will also convince some investors to withdraw their money, because it will automatically end democracy. So the rabbi reads all this and is certain that this mediocre and mediocre right-wing government, no different from other governments, is evil incarnate, and that the State of Israel will be destroyed by it.
Oh well.
A professional academic analysis of the legal reform, in the polite words of Prof. Neta Barak Koren, shows things no less serious than what the rabbi wrote.
https://www.hujilawblog.com/single-post/%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%AA-%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%99%D7%9F-%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%98%D7%9E%D7%9F-%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%99-%D7% 9E%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A4%D7%98-%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9 7-%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A3-%D7%95%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%A2%D7%94-%D7%9C%D7%93%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9F
I read the introduction, and it seems right in my direction. It acknowledges the problems that the reform is intended to solve, the system's failures and its opaqueness, and also the cries of "wolf, wolf" about the destruction of democracy, and explains that the problem is in the whole. I'll try to read the rest. Thank you.
Here is a point that I have not seen any reference to. To the best of my impression, there is no one among the supporters of the proposed legal reform who defines himself as belonging to the Zionist center and left camp (but the opposite is true, meaning right-wingers like Meridor who oppose it). If my impression is correct, this sociological fact also has significance from a substantive point of view. After all, the revolting center-left speaks against the reform first and foremost in the name of democracy. However, the radical, non-Zionist left right-wing One could perhaps argue against me that hypocrisy exists on the right too, and that is certainly true. But the right, even when it is completely psychotic, does not fake its core values, even when they are distorted and evil (for example, nationalism). It truly believes in them, to our horror. Not all of the left/center. It is hypocritical to the core
I read the article on Saturday and it is certainly interesting and adds important points. The direction is very similar to what I think, although its presentation of the situation is slightly biased.
This is the response I sent to her:
To Prof. Koren Shalom. My name is Michael Avraham (graduated from Ilan University, physicist, currently teaching at the Higher Institute of Torah). I am not a lawyer, but I am quite involved in the legal field and also somewhat involved in the reform you are discussing. I will say in advance that I oppose it in its current form, but I am well aware of and identify with most of the motivations for its implementation. Therefore, I hope that you will find it appropriate to read my comments, even though I am not a professional.
I read your article with great interest, and I really enjoyed the discussion and the balanced, factual analysis that is so lacking in our places these days. I very much identify with the description of the problems of the current situation and the reform (I myself have written quite a bit about it, very similar things), and I definitely learned a few new things while reading it. So thank you.
Just one comment regarding the presentation of the situation that the reform will create. It seems to me that your description is a little biased in my opinion. A minor example of this is your statement on page 17 in the last paragraph. There you discuss the overriding clause, and add in parentheses that according to the reform's assumption, a unanimous decision by all the judges of the High Court is required. But you yourself insisted that this was only Rothman's proposal, not Levin's. It would have been appropriate to note this. A more important example is on page 16, where you write that the reform neutralizes judicial criticism of legislation. This is not accurate in my opinion. Even if the committee in its new composition appoints a judge, it does not mean that he will automatically act in accordance with the views of his subordinates. And this certainly cannot be said about the appointment of one judge (as you wrote there). This is already really deterministic. You know better than I do the disappointments that the right has had with the judges who are considered conservative and were appointed by him and acted in a not-so-conservative manner, and vice versa, of course. People have integrity even if they have a conservative or right-wing/religious outlook, and I think we see this again and again. The pessimistic determinism that so characterizes the discussions on this subject (according to which every concern becomes a certain outcome and therefore arouses almost hysterical fear) is unjustified, and I hoped that you would not fall for it. This can be presented as a danger and a fear of bias, but not as a conclusion that there is a lack of judicial review here. That is too decisive. In general, I would add here that the discussions on reform are characterized by the same determinism, as if every concern becomes a certain outcome, while most of these concerns will probably not materialize in my opinion. This does not mean that I disparage them, after all, it is worthwhile to create a stable system that is not prone to failures, but there is a distance between this and presenting a situation of a lack of review or some other serious situation.
This determinism also underlies the opposition to Levin's proposal that the High Court would be able to disqualify judges by a majority of 80%. In my opinion, this is a completely reasonable dosage, since if there are three judges who agree with the law, it is difficult to say that there is anything clearly unreasonable here that deserves to be disqualified. Again, even if these are three judges appointed by the committee in its new composition, I am not a determinist, and I think that they are likely to have the integrity to act correctly and not be too biased. Not every judge appointed by the coalition automatically acts in its direction. I mean more than that. A democratic regime is built on the integrity and good intentions of the people who hold office. It is true that we are often disappointed, but there are limits to what people will do even if they have the power. In principle, even today, the government can bypass the High Court without any override clause. It can insert a limitation clause into any law it wants, and that is it. The fact is that this was not done (therefore, in my opinion, the override clause is not as severe as it is presented, although I think that at least in the existing majority it is not reasonable to enact it). Have a good week, and thanks again for the informative and waiting article.
I have a question regarding the last part you wrote. Maybe initially after the implementation of the reform, the situation will be as you said (the coalition will appoint judges to the Supreme Court who will act according to their own judgment and not according to the judgment of those who appointed them). [Although, in such important matters I think it is better not to rely on it, and it is better not to take a risk, see for example the recent appointments of the State Comptroller and the Civil Service Commissioner, two appointments by Netanyahu to audit positions that definitely fulfill the will of those who appointed them.]
But the reform is not just about appointments to the Supreme Court, but about the appointments of all judges, in all instances, and judges will only be able to receive promotion if they want the coalition. Ultimately, those who reach the Supreme Court will already be judges who are less good, less professional, and especially with less integrity.
You turn fear into certainty. This is the determinism I was talking about.
There is something in what you say, but this concern is based on previous cases as I described, and this increases the certainty.
Indeed, an excellent document by Netta Barak Koren. I personally think that we do need a broad basis for reasonableness in our corrupt regime. Doesn't the Rabbi agree?
She also writes quite similarly to the Rabbi regarding the Haredi problem:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.themarker.com/weekend/2023-01-06/ty-article/.premium/00000185-8142-d4dd-a195-e37bbd470000%3f_amp=true
Very similar to my analysis of the separation of powers. The whole process is very similar to what I wrote in several of my articles.
I also think that a broad reasonable ground is needed, but it requires thought about how exactly to formulate it in a way that does not allow for rampage.
You don't understand. This column is simply a side effect of the vaccine.
Yashar Koach Rabbi Michi…
I am happy for your courage and your integrity to express and say with rational analysis the things as they are. And I also very much agree that the right-wing people who oppose everything that is happening should go out and demonstrate in order to balance the less correct things that are happening in the demonstrations.
Thank you very much.
I will only address one point, most things are pointless to argue about, they stem from a well-known position fueled by hatred, and every government and every person has mistakes, so it's that so-and-so is so-and-so and so-and-so is an idiot for saying so, these are disrespectful gossips.
But to say that we need to stop the moves they were elected on because your intellectuals Lapid Gantz and Boogie and their friends are shouting everywhere they can against the Israeli economy is simply absurd. It's to stop the murdered and the raped and the raped instead of the perpetrators.
What should be done? A prison sentence for anyone who tries to harm their country's economy!
Unfortunately, I agree with some of the claims
especially in the area of religious laws that come from the Haredi sector.
Beyond that, it seems that the very esteemed author has lost his way
Your writing does not match how I know your eloquence
I estimate that it was written out of mental stress
I hope you will return to a state of calm and consider how to rewrite your claims
Haredim are parasites.. Shmuel Eliyahu the idiot.. Wow, what a crazy place.. I thought this was a normal place. After this article, I'm running away from here.. Talking like a Nazi. This form of generalization towards Haredim is mixed with heresy.. Of course, ignoring your own crazy position..
The first few lines are a bit inconsistent in my opinion.
If you support Levin's reform lines, why go out and crowd the ranks with a public whose majority expresses irrelevant, unreasoned, uninformed protest, and in other parts – a public that protests at every opportunity and does not act in good faith when asked what it really protests about. Any sensible person understands that some of the more consistent minds who come out to protest every time there is a storm in a cup of tea against the government, are simply people who go out to vote in unconscious protest of the anger they have towards this thing called democracy and the fact that Moroccans in the south have the right to vote and they are voting for Bibi.
Or alternatively – Marxists of Mizrahi origin who cannot stand Bibi's face and that is the end of it for them. I have family members like that.
I'm a bibist like you said (from a family of paupers) why the hell would I want to join a protest that I have no connection or agreement with?
The blunt words drag us to the behavior of the people's representatives in the Knesset
The blunt writing and harsh nicknames that were attached to some of the people are inappropriate. Even if there is criticism of them, it should not be written in a disrespectful manner, which fuels the hatred in the people and the polarization between the positions of the different groups in the people.
Instead of being dragged along by the harsh form of expression of people who were affected by the aggressive discourse in the Knesset, a respectful and informed discourse should have been created. Only in this way can solutions be reached, certain concessions encouraged on each side, and a compromise reached that will calm the harmful chaos that has arisen in the country.
Absolutely. A fool does not transgress prohibitions, and especially not a blessing for nothing.
Hahaha, did I manage to get you out of your rut? You know, I heard that from Rabbi Newgershel once. How do you know that Jacob won the fight with the angel? After all, he came out lame? The rabbi replied that if there is a power argument of fists, like the kind we have been seeing from the left for a few weeks, and one comes out bruised, and the other whole and healthy, then the bruised side is defeated, but if there is an ideological argument, and one side comes out bruised, then the side that came out bruised probably won, by knockout, because it managed to throw the other so hard off balance and balance, that the saying was fulfilled in it: "When the words run out, they start to punch, punch and kick, go wild, and climb onto tables, and burn the country down." (By the way, the truth always comes out slowly, bit by bit. You shot fire and brimstone at the Haredim on several different occasions, and I mistakenly believed you. Now you see who is sane, and has an easygoing temper, and is inclusive, and Jewish, and who is on the side you chose to join.)
I've been feeling the same way as you for quite some time now.
Hector, there is nothing to be proud of, that you are already so completely blurred that your dead heart does not feel the worm. Even a sheep is easy-going, and so is a puffed-up clown like you.
Your Achilles heel, the fact that I stepped on someone's wart here, and clearly causes you to expose hypocrisy perhaps? That's why you also come out of your shell, dragged into these realms of slander and mudslinging, do you think this serves your side? Or the other side?
I also no longer trust the Ishmael Defense Army.