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A Look at Haredi Ideology (Column 533)

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Disclaimer: This post was translated from Hebrew using AI (ChatGPT 5 Thinking), so there may be inaccuracies or nuances lost. If something seems unclear, please refer to the Hebrew original or contact us for clarification.

In the previous column I discussed the new coalition and, among other things, argued that it is not as right-wing and national as it portrays itself. Thus, for example, I argued that it is hard to treat the Haredi components as national components (though in Column 500 I noted that this doesn’t have many practical ramifications today). To illustrate this, I pointed there to an article by Eliyahu Levy, titled “Why Did You Sit Among the Sheepfolds,” in the online journal ‘Tzrich Iyun’ (“Needs Examination”), which addresses Haredi ideology’s attitude toward participation in government and the responsibility that entails, in light of an editorial in Yated Ne’eman.

A few days ago someone sent me that article on WhatsApp and asked for a column addressing it. I replied that the views discussed there are so outlandish, unfounded, and childish that it seems a bit superfluous and even insulting to parse and debate them as Levy does. But on second thought, I realized it is still worthwhile to address this, if only because on the ideological plane there are quite a few people who truly believe this nonsense—among them intelligent people and Torah scholars (that’s what fixations can do to people). Moreover, there is seemingly a practical implication here of the ideological difference between Religious-Zionism and Haredi-ism (non-Zionist or anti-Zionist). Therefore I decided to devote a column to look at these matters a bit more deeply. In the last part of the column I simply quote a considerable portion of Levy’s article, since he formulates the points excellently.

The article in ‘Yated Ne’eman’

The discussion revolves around the editorial in Yated Ne’eman, the house organ of the Degel HaTorah party, from Friday, the 29th of Kislev of that year. For your convenience, I scanned the article here:

Granted, we are dealing with a Haredi-Lithuanian propaganda pamphlet that, naturally, is replete with slogans and grandiose proclamations that do not really reflect reality; hence it is not very reasonable to parse them and look for well-defined meanings. Still, I think it certainly reflects Haredi ideological discourse (regarding practice, see below).

The editorial staff argues that the question of whether their party is right or left is based on a misunderstanding. Such a question is relevant only for someone driven by one ideology or another, and who is a citizen of the State of Israel and subject to its authorities (the Knesset, the courts, and the government). But the Haredim are citizens of the Land of Israel, and their sovereign is the Holy One, blessed be He, Himself (no less). They act solely according to the “Da’at Torah” of our great rabbis, the shepherds of the Haredi flock (that is, the “Urim and Thummim,” no less).

It turns out that those Urim and Thummim long ago instructed them not to take ministerial positions, because by law the government’s responsibility for its decisions and actions is collective. Since government decisions are made not according to the Shulchan Aruch but according to politics (Heaven forfend), and therefore include actions that do not align with Halacha, it is impossible for a Haredi representative to serve as a minister and be responsible for those decisions and actions. In addition, at times the government must decide on going to war and on matters of life and death, which depend on subtle, delicate, and fateful considerations; therefore there is an additional, special prohibition for a Haredi minister to enter the political-security cabinet that makes such decisions.

Naturally they do not spare us colorful descriptions of how decisions are made by our military and political establishment, claiming they are driven mainly by considerations of honor and prestige—something that prevents G-d-fearing Haredim from sharing responsibility for them. It is hard to deny that, unfortunately, at times authorities make decisions based on extraneous considerations, but that happens in every human society. In a democracy there is at least an attempt to grapple with this, to expose and criticize it, and at times even address it. By contrast, the Haredim try to create a false impression that their decisions are made differently. They can do so thanks to their renowned insistence on freedom of information and expression and on denying all the ills of Haredi society while persecuting anyone who dares point them out. As we all know, the municipalities of Bnei Brak, Modi’in Illit, or Beitar Illit—not to mention the Haredi parties—are run in perfect purity of outlook; you won’t find, even under a microscope, considerations of prestige and honor, or interests and money. Anything you hear to the contrary is merely antisemitic propaganda by secular leftist antisemites (actually, if you listen to them internally as well, then not only leftists—rather all secular people). The fact that MKs go to prison, lie, act against fundamental values—all of that is secular nonsense. “Among our own” such things do not exist. In the Haredi world it’s all pure Torah and nothing else, conducted by ministering angels. Straight from Sinai to the Bnei Brak municipality and to the battles of the Mitla Pass. Well, as for their exemplary management of wars, it’s a bit hard for me to judge for obvious reasons (though their political wars, which are plentiful, are not bad examples of their purely “Torah-true” conduct). Fine—let me not wade further into this propaganda garbage and instead touch on what there passes for arguments.

In any case, the conclusion there is that the only roles permitted to them by the sages and shepherds of the flock are positions that allow them “to snatch from the lion and the bear,” or, in plain Hebrew: to look after their narrow sectarian interests at the public’s expense, and let everything else burn (I’ve written about this ideology in Column 507 and elsewhere). Haredi ideology—at least in the internal discourse, which they don’t even bother to hide (in outward discourse you won’t find even one true word)—is essentially to take as much of everyone’s money as they can with no responsibility for anything else. That way they can point to the faults of those who actually do something, distance themselves from their corruption, and continue exploiting them shamelessly. The shamelessness does not only accompany their actions; it turns out they even write this in black and white in the paper with not a gram of shame and without blinking. In fact, you can sense the wondrous pride in their “pure” conduct. Well, to their credit it must be said they have never run a war corruptly. Unbelievable.

A bit of history

It has always been the norm that Haredim do not participate in the government. They only siphon funds, look after their interests, and bear no responsibility for anything—per the guidance of the shepherds of the flock, the Urim and Thummim. But in 2015 something happened in Israel. Litzman wanted, as usual, to have his cake and eat it too. He decided to serve as Deputy Health Minister with no minister above him. Thus one can not only siphon resources from the public but also take part in the executive branch with no responsibility whatsoever. Admit it—this is a truly ingenious invention, and in my estimation, without shepherds of the flock and Urim and Thummim, no one would have come up with this brilliant trick.

Except that our Urim and Thummim failed to notice that behind the Basic Law: The Government, which imposes responsibility on those who run things here, there is some rationale. Their “lamdanut” (casuistry) disappointed this time. The rationale is simple, and I’m sure the “eyes of the congregation” could see it from miles away: you cannot receive authority without responsibility. Responsibility is imposed on the government because granting authority without responsibility is a tried-and-true prescription for Haredi-style conduct, i.e., acting based on interests without being accountable to the public. It is no wonder that this of course contradicts the basic principles of our system of government (I don’t know whether they leaned there on the reasonableness doctrine or directly on the Basic Law: The Government, but for me it’s the same). So the antisemitic High Court, purely out of persecution of Haredim of course, announced to the whole world that such a thing is impossible (don’t worry, the reasonableness doctrine will soon be abolished—shortly after reasonableness itself). No wonder the Haredim rose up against this antisemitism. Those leftists on the Court are interfering with their ability to rob us illegally and without bearing responsibility for their actions. Tfu.

What happened after the Court’s decision? You’ll surely be surprised, but it turns out that part of the “eyes of the congregation” decided that there is no choice: if they cannot rob us without responsibility, then they will rob us with responsibility. And presto, as if by magic, a special dispensation was found for Litzman to serve as a minister (don’t worry—the reasonableness doctrine will soon be abolished and all will be well). But it turns out that this dispensation is acceptable only to one “eye” of the congregation. The other “eye” of the congregation—that is, the Lithuanian leadership—did not accept the evil decree and did not permit its representatives to serve as ministers. Well, that’s what the Finance Committee and other positions are for, and of course various agreements with the criminals (the secular, the religious, the Hasidim, and the Mizrahim) who do serve. Not to worry.

And so to our days. We are left only to ponder their current takeover of positions of power, and their systematic siphoning of state resources with no accountability and no concern for anyone else—done openly and brazenly. Now even the Hasidim are unwilling to enter the government and the cabinet; something has changed among the “eyes of the congregation,” apparently, and they have decided to return to the good old method of robbery without responsibility. It is strange to me how, despite this, there are still broad segments of the public who are angry and unwilling to make peace with the “election results” and accept the will of the majority. Truly inconsiderate of them.

The meaning of all this

We must understand that Yated Ne’eman, exactly like Pravda or Al-Ahram, is not a newspaper in any relevant sense. It is a house organ, because it does not present the personal positions of any given individual, it is not obligated to journalistic ethics—not even as a fig leaf—and of course truth is the last thing that interests it. It is a propaganda mouthpiece of Haredi ideology. To be sure, anyone with a runny nose who is familiar with the inner workings of Haredi society knows that the pretense as if their “Gedolei HaDor” set the principles and the organ merely disseminates them is a lie—one of the many among them. This shoddy house organ has a significant part in shaping the ideology, and it even wages fierce battles against any “Gadol” who deviates from it (see R. Aharon Leib Shteinman, a bit before he was appointed “Gadol HaDor” and toed the line). To a large extent, the house organ is the one that appoints the “Gedolim.” Thus there is a wonderful symbiosis between its function in producing the ideology and the false impression it tries to create as if it is merely the mouthpiece of those who determine it—“It wasn’t me, it was him.” And if you ask the “luminaries” for their opinion on this corrupt and depraved ideology—well, first of all you won’t succeed because they don’t give interviews. And even if you do succeed, they will explain that they personally are not really in favor, but not everything is in their hands.

In any event, from this you can understand that precisely when this house organ publishes an editorial dealing with the foundations of Haredi ideology, it indeed reflects—and actually shapes—the public’s ideological conception, rather than the position of one person or group. There, usually, there are no lies (the lies are when speaking to outsiders, not internally). That is also how the pamphlet above should be read.

That’s regarding ideology. To the credit of our Haredi cousins it should be said that, as I described in Column 507, in practice it does not actually operate entirely this way, for several reasons. After all there is reality, and one must take it into account. Sometimes they even feel a twinge of conscience and realize that they cannot actually function that way. So they make do with grandiose ideological declarations about being citizens of the Land rather than of the State, with the Holy One—via the shepherds of the flock, not an angel—constituting the three branches of government; while in practice the conduct is somewhat different. What can cause confusion is the mistaken feeling that Haredi-ism is an ideological movement. I have written more than once that Haredi-ism of course has an ideology, but it is a very non-ideological movement. Unlike the Hardalim (national-Haredim), they are very pragmatic and possess an almost endless readiness to live with dissonance. They can proclaim something with devout fervor and act in practice in a wholly different manner, and there is indeed room to interpret that to their credit (pragmatism is a sound approach to life) and also to their discredit (lying and conservative ossification are somewhat less recommended)—“these and those are the words of the living God.” When someone nevertheless points out some contradiction, there is no need to be alarmed. It is simply a product of the vastness of the minds of the “torch-bearers of the exile” and the shepherds of the flock—and as is known, Urim and Thummim are not subject to the government of logic and are not expected to be consistent or reasoned, nor moral, and certainly not accountable to anyone. How convenient.

And still, although in practice they are not entirely a gang of bandits (only partially), I nevertheless find it very disturbing to hear that this is their declared ideology. To hold, without shame and openly, an ideology of a gang of bandits—even if not implemented fully—is an expression of ethical and human baseness. Where this ideology is indeed implemented (as in these very days, when you can practically feel it with your fingers), it is certainly disturbing. And what is most bizarre and troubling to me is that we have all gotten used to including these anti-Zionist, anti-national, and anti-ethical groups within what is currently called “the national camp.” If these parties are “national,” I don’t know what a “non-national” stance is. It seems to me that even Ahmad Tibi is more committed to the good of the state than they are. As for Mansour Abbas, I have no doubt of it.

Critique

What exactly is the problem with this ideology? Beyond the bandits’ morality and shamelessness I already noted, there is also rather infantile thinking here. There are wars being fought here, and they threaten the Haredim as well (even though R. Chaim Kanievsky promised that no harm will befall any Haredi), and in them people fall for all of us. So who exactly is supposed to run them? As Eliyahu Levy notes, the question is not whether the secular can run wars, but why shouldn’t the Haredim run them—and can they? He cites there a question by Rabbi Goldvicht posed to the Haredi leadership of the time (early 1950s), and in response a dispute arose between the Brisker Rav (the Griz), who claimed that we have neither the authority nor the ability to conduct wars even if the Haredim would control the state (may God protect us), and the Chazon Ish, who claimed that when we are given authority we will discover the abilities as well. I’m not at all sure that these statements were indeed said as quoted, since I esteem these two figures too much to believe they said that. This seems to me downright slander against them—especially regarding the Griz’s words. Perhaps he uttered it as a witticism or sharp remark, but in the Haredi public one must be careful, for every such witticism becomes “Da’at Torah” and turns into an ideological principle that is cited with reverence and blind devotion to this very day and forever (though, as noted, its implementation is more flexible).

What is the problem with such statements? If you have criticism of the way the war is being conducted (especially when this comes from expertise and rich experience in the field, accumulated through yeshiva casuistry throughout history), why don’t you do something to improve it? Please tell us how, in your opinion, it ought to be conducted. Is the proper way to send others to die—or even yourself to die—because of improper decisions made by the authorities? Where did the vaunted “snatching from the lion and the bear” disappear to? A small child faced with a threat may sometimes bury his head in the sand and declare that there are no wars and there is no need to deal with them, neither to participate nor to manage them. As if, by hiding, the war will vanish. But from someone older than five—certainly if he is a shepherd of the flock, a “light of the congregation,” “Urim and Thummim,” and other modest and realistic epithets of this sort—I would expect a slightly more mature approach. It turns out that I’m apparently unrealistic—apparently because there is no word about this in the Ketzot.

It seems that, according to their view, if someone comes at you pointing a rifle, you will say you have no authority to defend yourself and will accept the decree submissively. What is this nonsense? It recalls the dilemma of “until it is subdued” regarding waging war on Shabbat. Does defense and saving our lives require special authority and expertise? You do what you can. Moreover, does anyone seriously think that in the past Jews had higher abilities in conducting (modern) wars? Is there a “decline of the generations” in strategy as well? Or perhaps someone thinks we should conduct war based on midrashic hermeneutics, and that skill has been lost to us—so we are orphans with no father?

I marvel at how anyone older than two is willing to buy the bundle of nonsense about being citizens of the Land of Israel but not of the State of Israel, and about our being under the sovereignty of the Holy One and not of the governmental authorities (which, by the way, are now under their control—sometimes it seems that includes the Holy One as well). Are you sure this isn’t a leaflet from Tzili’s kindergarten but words uttered or written by an adult? Can anyone imagine that these are the words of the living God delivered to us straight from on high? If so, then it is time the Holy One grew up already. A bunch of people, some with high intelligence, who spend most of their days on scholarly analysis of complex sugyot, spout childish nonsense that would insult little Rivki in Tzili’s kindergarten, call it “Da’at Torah,” view it as a coherent and systematic ideological doctrine, believe that even the Holy One Himself believes in this childish and malicious drivel—and the public follows them like the blind in a chimney. I have written more than once about the phenomenon of excellent scholars who can deliver a highly impressive “general lecture” and, at the same time, speak childish nonsense and issue shocking moral directives in other domains (see, for example, my remarks on the constructive role of “balabatim” in Column 62). It is not only the content that is inconceivable here, but no less the reverence it receives.

To conclude, I will bring verbatim the final part of Eliyahu Levy’s article:

It is hard to level claims against the ‘Yated Ne’eman’ editorial board. The situation is indeed very confusing. The outlook in which we were raised was shaped and formulated under conditions entirely different from today’s. The debates between the Chazon Ish and the Brisker Rav took place at a time when even the wildest imagination did not conceive that the Haredim would be a majority here. Rabbi Goldvicht’s question was indeed a kind of “halacha for the messianic era.” The current state of affairs, in which Haredim are being offered to join the political-security cabinet, catches us unprepared.

We know very well how to conduct ourselves when we are persecuted. We are superbly trained for emergencies. Even before the siren begins to sound, we are already marching in column toward the shelters. And from there, from the shelter, from behind the trenches, we know how to make excellent use of our elaborate defensive arrays, which we cultivated over many generations. The present situation—where not only are we not persecuted, but the power is in our hands—is truly dreamlike. We were like dreamers. We wander about like somnambulists, unsure whether this is a trick meant to trip us up or a real promise. And above all, we do not know what to do with this new power.

Therefore we go back to the old and try to cling to the familiar. We reopen the Chazon Ish, but the Chazon Ish’s words do not fit the situation. So we close the Chazon Ish and turn to the Brisker Rav. Well, the Griz’s words do not quite fit either. So we try to mix the Chazon Ish with the Brisker Rav, and what comes out is “Lot’s shepherds.” And “Please separate from me”

Is this serious? Is it what those great leaders intended—to make us “Lot’s shepherds”? What sort of negligence is this? In that same column it was written that questions “on which human life depends, life-and-death questions” are questions that cannot be decided offhand; rather, great Torah scholars must address them and issue judgment according to Halacha. Are we not now in precisely such a situation, where life-and-death questions lie at our doorstep? The time to answer this question is now.

‘Yated Ne’eman’ evades, in a not-very-elegant fashion, the question of what we will do on the day we become a majority. It prefers to blame “the heads of the anti-religious regime” instead of admitting that it has no answer to that question. Who are those “heads of the anti-religious regime” by whose hand ‘Yated Ne’eman’ exempts itself from responsibility? Are the Likud members “anti-religious”? The members of the Religious-Zionist party? Or is it referring specifically to the members of Shas? The great enemies of religion, Meretz, did not pass the threshold, and the rest of the anti-religious camp is licking its wounds in the opposition. Which “anti-religious” people exactly is it talking about?

There is no escaping the admission that ‘Yated Ne’eman’ recycles old arguments to avoid responsibility. It refuses to look reality in the eye and deal with the hard questions: What is our principled stance on security? What is our principled stance on the economy? What is our principled stance on domestic affairs? These are life-and-death questions, and our decisions on them have weighty consequences. We are making decisions on these matters. We do not enlist in the army—this is a decision on security. We do not direct our children to employment—this is a decision on the economy. We take budgets from the state as though they were “a lion and a bear”—this is a decision on domestic affairs. These are difficult choices, and it is hard to say they are a choice of life. We roll our eyes in self-righteousness and hang on the words of great leaders that were said in a wholly different context; we pretend that we are in the same situation as in the days of the Chazon Ish and the Brisker Rav, and deny the fact that, willy-nilly, we are making life-and-death decisions—not according to Da’at Torah.

But even if ‘Yated Ne’eman’ continues to ignore reality, reality will not ignore it. The idea of “please separate from me” is impossible. The idea of “Lot’s shepherds” is not viable either. ‘Yated Ne’eman’ seeks to rescue “from the sea’s spillage and the river’s puddle,” and that is indeed a wonderful image, because according to the conduct it recommends, the public coffers will indeed become a whirling vortex that quickly swallows anything entering it. If we continue to behave as ‘Yated Ne’eman’ recommends, we will discover very quickly that nothing remains in the lion’s and the bear’s den. They will have departed and gone, and we will be left with the coffers entirely—only, sadly, there will be nothing left to rescue from them.

Who will fill the coffers when there are no more lion and bear? ‘Yated Ne’eman’ refuses to answer. Who will defend the state when there are no more lion and bear? ‘Yated Ne’eman’ refuses to answer.

No, ‘Yated Ne’eman’, the question is not “Why do you show yourselves?” The question we must ask ourselves now is, “How long will you keep hopping between two opinions?” We cannot simultaneously hold both the Brisker Rav’s position and the Chazon Ish’s position. If we are loyal to the Chazon Ish’s path, we must begin to bear responsibility. If we are loyal to the Brisker Rav’s path, we must stop taking state budgets. You cannot have it both ways.

Levy is careful to preserve the honor of the Chazon Ish and the Brisker Rav, and directs his protest only at Yated Ne’eman, which continues to cite them and write as if their words are applicable to this day. For my part, I cannot believe that this is what they said even then. These were two extraordinary Torah figures and, of course, very wise men, and therefore I am very doubtful that they truly said what is quoted in their names (the words brought in the name of the Chazon Ish somehow seem a bit closer to plausible, but the words brought in the name of the Griz are sheer drivel). In any case, the content itself—and those who treat it seriously—have certainly earned this criticism.


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  1. Dear Rabbi Michi.

    First of all, thank you for this column and the previous one. There is an interesting analysis of the political situation here in my opinion.

    I would like to point out a final point that I see reflected in this case and ask what you think:

    This pragmatism. In which there is a final dissonance between the huge ideological declaration. Between what sometimes happens in reality and in practice. (Regardless of the issues of corruption. Hypocrisy. And the injustice that exists in some of the conduct as a result of this. Since I do not know whether all these phenomena are a function of this gap. Or something that is added to it.) Does not actually exist. In any standard religious-conservative Jewish community. In particular. And in any conservative society in general?

    I would like to give a slightly opposite example. From the other pole entirely.: The Israeli left. Dominant and aggressive (ignoring its most blatant extreme. Which actually aspires to a state with an Arab majority). But its more standard. That of Meretz and Labor. And the center. Of Yair and Gantz. Those who, on every social, religious and moral issue. Will usually utter a concluding mantra. With absolute confidence that they are right in their words: For higher education and against coercion and religious ignorance!. Love for every person!. Service to all citizens!. And mantras similar to those and expectations that are heard from this wing.
    Defectors from the same camp. Have pointed out many times the cognitive dissonance in which this society lives and the following:

    For education. Familiarity. Openness. Against ignorance.
    In practice: a complete denial of any religious belief. Without opening a page of the Gemara or the Bible even once in your life. Without meeting or talking to a single religious thinker. A denial that is based on childish stereotypes.
    Very low general education. Which is expressed in a lack of familiarity with conservative arguments. Or other arguments in general that are not related to their cultural world
    For love for every person
    In practice: the lack of readiness of most of them to accept in a theoretical situation an Arab partner for their daughter or son. From purely cultural considerations. Even if he undergoes Israeliization or secular or Reform conversion according to their system. While a partner with one Jewish side of the family or a European partner is completely acceptable to them even without Israeliization or conversion according to their system
    A statement of enlightenment and belief that there are principles common to every person
    When in practice there is behavior that indicates that for them only people of their kind are able to reach the right values and the right opinions. Which is reflected in an unwillingness to work with youth or with the general population in general and come into contact with it

    And so on and so forth.

    Even in religious Zionism, there is a dissonance between the declaration and the actual conduct, many times, even though there is a difficult ideological atmosphere

    For purely pragmatic reasons, it has been decided several times to give a platform to our people who are married to foreigners and define themselves as completely atheists. And to call them as those who have repented and as part of the traditional religious public (Gali Bat Horin. She was defined as those who have repented that no one can stand in her way while she declares above all that she is an atheist at all..and even more so declares that she will never be able to accept the belief in God. And that she will go to war to preserve the old secular identity that she held after helping the Jews eliminate the progressive lunatics..). Even Shefi Paz, who defines herself as a complete atheist. A Sabbath desecrator holds a flag of pride in her home and in a proud relationship with a woman, receives a platform from the conservative religious right because only because she decided. Out of national considerations, they tended to move To love her people and to abandon universal and cosmetic pursuits, the main expression of which is simply a war against illegal infiltrators and nothing more.
    And this is the same religious Zionism that declares above all that our right to the land is by virtue of God's promise. That the people of Israel are not a people like all other peoples, but rather their goal is to make the inspiration of God known throughout the world. This is the same religious Zionism in which the war on assimilation and differentiation between Israel and the nations. And even more so, the differentiation between Jewish nationalism and ordinary nationalism was defined as one of its ultimate goals. Let us not forget that this religious Zionism holds another dissonance. While it declares many times that faith is not a simple religious experience based on emotion. And that the observance of the commandments stems from a deep intellectual and intuitive conviction and not from traditional emotion or mere ancestral loyalty. Its rabbis attack with the same declaration and in the same breath any attempt to hold an objective discussion on matters of faith in terms of principles rather than ends, and not in the existence of God or in the observance of the commandments within itself and among a community of its own, who are obliged to observe the commandments. .as terrible heresy and heresy.

    And here we are without talking about the dissonance that exists in the declaration of many members of religious Zionism. And to be honest, I am talking mainly about ideologists, scholars and rabbis, and less about the average person who loves every single person in Israel because of their divine interiority. And in the same breath, there is often a high aversion to the individual Israeli person and criticism from here to there about all the components of his personality. (And of course, the very simple answer. Really simple on paper, but difficult to digest logically. That this is not contradictory at all because that love is directed to the true and pure core that is in that true self under all the masks. And not to all the fakeness that is in his revealed personality …).

    And what about Gentiles? And attitude towards Western culture and its values in general? After all, this is a common genre for both religious Zionism and the Haredim. To hate the concrete, average, realistic, historical and contemporary Gentile to the core. Quite rightly, it must be said in most cases if one refers to the collective. Who persecuted, murdered and abused the Jews. And unjustly when it comes to the private, democratic, American, Canadian or Norwegian Gentile who did not really persecute the people of Israel. Because all his actions are like a pig that stretches its claws and the like and all his democratic and secular culture is nothing more than a blindfold. And in the same breath, to talk about an abstract, utopian and futuristic love for the "whole world"!!. Which is destined to remain and be redeveloped by the holy sparks of the righteous and the resident, because we are the only universalists who truly love every person and who in fact invented the impure invention called democracy, the rights of a person, the freedom of a person. And so on..

    I would like to say:

    It seems to me that cognitive dissonances and gaps that no one notices on a daily basis are common to every conservative society. Our Arab cousins, Nirali, also have a belief that they do not support terrorism and do not want to murder civilians and soldiers..and want peace. While on the other hand, they also cooperate with extremist Islamist organizations that want a dictatorial Islamic state in the Land of Israel according to the vision of peace of the Prophet Muhammad..I think they really declare this without paying attention to the contradiction. When I see the worried look of Ahmed Tibi who mentioned him here in the column. I think the guy really believes his own lies. And the same goes for Mansour Nirali, who is captive to such deep self-deception.

    1. This is an interesting discussion and it is clear that there is a measure of truth in it. Indeed, this dissonance exists in every society (not necessarily conservative). And yet the feeling is that with the Haredim it is different, stronger. There is a difference between a situation in which people fail to realize their principles because it is difficult for them and an entire group that lives in seconds, and even if they pay attention to this, they get hung up on Torah opinions and/or vain chatter. Beyond that, the unrealized values of the other groups are worthy (in my opinion), while here we are talking about foolish and evil approaches that are not fundamentally feasible. But this is certainly a correct observation, and this requires enlightenment.

  2. Today, the right and left (in Israel, but also in other countries, only there it is less essential) revolve around the question of faith in the people of Israel: that is, are we a family that prefers its members to foreigners or is this nation a fiction in general, and then (and for some reason) the state and citizens become the important thing (they generally ask about instrumentalities and formal things. In a leftist world, form is more important than content and essence. Because there is no such thing as content (objective)). For the left, the concept of nation and nation in its original sense – that is, the ethnic nation – is a concept that is restricted due to disgust. It is racism. (Soon, the classic concept of family will also be used. Or we will empty this concept of its content (any group of things is a family (for example: a man, a cat and a cloud)) )

    So according to this, the government is actually very right-wing and nationalistic. Beyond the fact that there is nothing national about the left (and the soft right is dragging behind them), the Haredim are actually very pro-Israel. It is true that they still live in a communal diaspora mentality (an”sh) and have no idea what national responsibility is (and this is what causes their intolerable behavior). But they are definitely right-wing. The Land of Israel either does not give up territories for peace or does not. Indeed, the people of Israel come before the Land of Israel. And those who are for the people of Israel (the halakhic. which is the real people. not a collection of citizens of a state empty of content)

    By the way, in recent years I have realized that all newspapers are Pravda. If they were not like that, then they would not be known. Most of them are just sophisticated, elegant and refined Pravda under the guise of objectivity and truth (like an evil person wearing a suit). Maybe even this is done without self-awareness. Yeted Ne’eman is simply crudely made and therefore its Pravda is evident. I don’t really know who is worse.

  3. Regarding the words of the Gerizim:

    I really think he meant what he said and he is a bit like the Satmar. Very smart people are also very cowardly (because they see consequences for their actions that less smart people do not see). They probably would not fight for their lives if a rifle was pointed at them but would flee like the Jews did during the entire exile. And since they are moral people, they would certainly not send other people to fight when they themselves would not do so. They would indeed instruct people to flee like they would. In the country, the Haredi are the majority and then they are in power anyway, according to ideology, those who should be in power are the Haredi Torah gurus, even though in themselves they do not want leadership at all and even today they are leaders because people come to them with questions and requests for instructions, and they do not impose themselves on the public (I am talking about people like the Gerizim or Rabbi Steinman). In any case, the conclusion is that when the Haredim become the majority, they will either invite the Arabs to rule over them or they will emigrate abroad. This is of course very impractical and therefore they will face a situation they have never been in before.

    And even if they have the fear of God, then they really are not afraid of anything else (or do not let such fear rule them), there are still degrees to this and they too have sins that cause them to doubt whether they are worthy of God's help. And without God's help, they are actually very afraid to fight and the logical conclusion in such a case is flight and not fight. In such a case, they will really have neither authority nor responsibility and they will not participate in government at all, nor will they have an army or receive budgets. It seems to me that this is the intention of the Geriz. Indeed, this is the opinion of Satmar and it seems that the Brisk community of Geriz students does indeed belong to the Haredi community that does not take budgets from the state.

  4. Don't you know the story that the Griez told regarding the demonstrations on Shabbat in the early days of the state, that whoever goes there actually agrees with the Zionists, because whoever opposes them and knows how bad they are knows that they can murder those who demonstrate against them (and this is where the Brisk logic comes into play) "and a judge of life and limb" is forbidden from going to demonstrate.

    1. I actually know the story, I just didn't remember who the rabbi said it. By the way, today I understand this attitude much better. They are called Zionists, but they were really (unconsciously, apparently) cosmopolitan socialists at heart, and their successors today are the anti-Israel Jewish progressives in the US and Israel. The left is really capable of murdering anyone who gets in its way. Like the communists in Russia and China. Valtelana and Sazon will prove that Lekhtarova were in the name of statehood, but they really stemmed from hatred of Jews. Even in the US, police officers were killed in the Seattle riots in the name of progressives.

  5. “Rabbi Yehuda says, "Whoever does not teach his son a trade teaches him robbers, robbers”
    “Torah knowledge” that blocked core studies and going to work created a society of robbers.
    Of course, we have to blame the socialists of Mapai who distributed free health insurance, no money, financed Torah studies, and distributed child allowances to a population that consciously chose not to work.
    That way, the Haredim could be a group of robbers without learning war like the Vikings or the Bedouins – all under the auspices of the beautiful socialists who brought their own ruin upon themselves.

    The only good thing that came out of this process is that the socialists in the world will internalize the error of their ways and the abominable idea of “universal income” Will be thrown into the dustbin of history without being given the opportunity to destroy other cultures (other than that of the Jews)

    1. The socialists will internalize nothing. They never change their minds. They have no opinion. They have no truth at all. The rest of the public may internalize, but the leaders of that public will not.

  6. As my predecessors have noted, the Brisker (as far as the Brisk dynasty is concerned, with the exception of Reb Yoshua Ber and his descendants) were closer to Satmar in their view of Zionism, and the Gries ruled out participation in elections and taking budgets from the state. So he was quite consistent.

    As for Da'at Torah, the stories of Yeded Ne'eman remind me of the story told at the time by the Lubavitcher Rebbe (Zetzil, Shalit, and the one who chooses will choose). The Rebbe's father managed to get him and a group of rabbis with him a meeting with Stalin, where they requested a government ration of flour for baking matzah for Passover. (Unusual courage. In those days, the days of the “Great Famine,” it was almost like asking Stalin to convert to Islam.) The rabbis explained that for religious Jews, chametz on Passover is not “food,” and if matzos cannot be supplied, they will be left without basic food for a week. Stalin listened patiently and replied: “I will bring the matter to the decision of the President (Kalinin), I am only the General Secretary.” (For the curious: President Kalinin approved it.)

  7. The belief that the Arabs care more about the state than the Haredim is ridiculous and stupid. The state is not important at all. What is important is the Jewish people. And the Arabs (including Abbas himself. He will change his skin when it comes from his voters. This is human nature in general and among the Arabs in particular) definitely care about eliminating the Jewish people.
    Right now, the Arabs in general still don't believe that they were allowed to be in power. As soon as they become the tongue of the scales, they will suck blood a million times more than the Haredim. And they will still fight the Jews. See the riots in Tishfa in which a significant part of Abbas' voters, the Bedouins who are a criminal and evil society, participated.
    I don't know how naive and infantile one can be. The problem here is the Haredim. They don't steal or rob anything. They sell their votes in exchange for budgets. The problem is not with them but with those who give them the right to vote (and the Arabs too) regardless of their undeveloped mentality. Democracy is not suitable for everyone. Even the structure of a state is not suitable for every group of people. Like the countries of black Africa that do not have ethnic peoples but a collection of tribes.

    Essence (content) precedes form. A state and democracy are means for natural human groups with an appropriate mentality. That is, for sufficiently developed peoples who already have enough natural solidarity and not because of some law enacted in parliament. The system of government and institutions are supposed to serve this people (and not they them). They are not goals. Otherwise it is a kind of ridiculous fascism. In short, support (real. and not lip service) for a state that is not the state of the Jews is not a characteristic of the Jewish right but of the left (universal. There is no such thing as a Jewish or national left. Not today in the West at least)

  8. Instead of praising the leaders of the Haredi public who are concerned, for example, with reduced Sabbath desecration among all of Israel, we get a column with demagogy (especially cheap) that mostly cries “robbery-robbery-robbery”

    There is a legitimate struggle here over budgets for various publics, and now the Haredi public has the upper hand. Completely legitimate.
    Of course, where it is necessary to criticize the Haredi public, it can be done, but not to the point of demagoguery.

    1. I agree that Miki's columns about the Haredi public are full of hatred (although he denies it, I believe him that he does not feel it). But the claim is fundamentally correct. There is a big difference between being poor by fate and being poor by choice. There is a moral obligation to help those who help themselves (as the saying goes, "Leave him alone"). Anyone who degrades their children to the point of being unable to support themselves, while at the same time demanding that the "state" (i.e., the taxpayers) support them with allowances and benefits is nothing more than a robber. For this purpose, he is a robber even if he is in the opposition, but exploits welfare laws that are intended to help those who are unfortunate and not those who choose their fate*.
      And yes, I am familiar with the well-worn claims about the Haredi charity organizations, etc., etc. Don't be Robin Hood. Don't steal on the one hand, and help others on the other.

      I am reminded of Donald Trump's crushing response to Hillary Clinton's claim that he paid no taxes for nearly two decades: "I just took advantage of the stupid laws you and your colleagues in the Senate passed." The point is that Trump has built a huge business empire that has contributed greatly to the American GDP despite his tax evasion (with the kind help of Senator Clinton and Co.).

      1. I will just note that I absolutely do not deny the hatred for Haredi women, for their way of thinking and behaving. I do deny the hatred for Haredim as people and for the Haredi environment (I love Bnei Brak and its existence). Some of my best friends are…

    2. Do me a favor. The truth is, I really have no complaints about the Haredim. They are a group that is not developed enough for political and economic independence. They take advantage of the laws that the left has enacted and sanctified. It is no different from anyone who administers tax laws in order to pay as little tax as possible. They simply should not be given the right to vote or even be denied citizenship. This of course allows and even requires the denial of citizenship and the right to vote from the Arabs, who are much worse than the Haredim in this aspect as well. I wish it would be done and that is what I believed for years to be right.

      The problem is that the left in Israel (and the world) is so stupid and infantile and ignorant and foolish (bordering on evil) that it sanctifies empty democracy over simple justice and truth. So I don't care anymore. Anyone who works here and pays taxes is also a big fool (unless he loves his job and is good at it. In other words, then he doesn't work for the money. Then he contributes to the whole world)

      And so is conscription. In this, the Haredim actually have much more justice in their claims about the IDF command. I was in the IDF and witnessed the easy-going nature of the commanders. In fact, there is nothing that can be done. A person without true fear of God (which also includes most kippah wearers) always acts for himself and all IDF commanders without exception are there for self-promotion (they are like Dreyfus, only the gentiles did not let them advance) and not for the Jewish people (the organism to which they belong). The soldiers under their command are mainly intended for this. They are just not aware of it. And the truth is that as soon as their personal good does not coincide with the good of the whole, they will choose, apparently unconsciously, in their personal good. And so considerations of honor led to the unnecessary shedding of blood of soldiers. This is also true with regard to the Haredim, of course, except that the leaders of the Haredi public apparently have self-awareness and therefore are not even ready for a strictly Haredi state and army. The rest of the activists are also devoid of opinion and they also act for their own personal benefit with a lack of self-awareness. Incidentally, Moshe Friedman, a former Karta mentor, is also a clear example of this. The same goes for religious Zionism

      It's not that I have a solution to this situation. I don't think (and am not willing) to go like sheep to the slaughter in front of the gentiles. But can I serve under such children? And I can't demand that anyone else serve in such a situation. I think that now the behavior of the leaders of the Haredi generation is more understandable.

  9. By the way, there is a governing institution in Israel right now that has authority without responsibility. It is the High Court. And it is this High Court, in its lack of self-awareness, that decided (very rightly. And fortunately it did so) to require Litzman to be appointed minister (to take responsibility).

  10. Long live the difference between a person who is looking for a role x in the game (even if you claim it is less productive), and a person who declares that he is not part of the game and will never be willing to take responsibility for it, but does want to take as much as possible and spreads such an ideology.

  11. I am truly thrilled by the ability to express and analyze Rabbi Michael and the commenters, but to me, the simple and average person, it seems like cries of "wolf, wolf" and after I lick my lips from the wonderful formulations, I am left with a very bitter taste because it seems to me that you also do not truly believe in the ability to influence, to change. Am I wrong?

  12. Good week!
    The rabbi wrote that ’Rabbi Steinman straightened up’. And that is simply a blatant mistake!! The story is exactly the opposite - Yated wrote against Rabbi Steinman's policy regarding the Haredi companies, and then the rabbi, in a brilliant maneuver, made sure to turn the newspaper into his own, and as a result, they opened the Peles, etc. This is exactly the opposite - not only did the rabbi not ‘straighten up’, but he went out into the field and turned it on its head!!!

  13. Dear Ehud. I don't like you repeatedly praising me and thanking me. Especially when you said that you are currently in a difficult period following hospitalization and are not taking your medications. I urge you to be careful to take them.
    Anyway, thank you for your kind words and get well soon.

  14. I was reminded of this column this morning when I saw excerpts from a letter by Rabbi Dov Lando, who is currently considered the leader of the Lithuanian-Haredi Torah Flag Party. https://www.bhol.co.il/news/957415
    And here they are:
    “The foundations of public leadership since the establishment of the state of heresy and destruction… At the foundation of this leadership is the recognition that here we are in exile, and the leadership of the exile entrusted to us must be conducted throughout all generations, as our holy Rabbi, the Mishnah, did, who before going before the authorities, studied the story of Jacob and his leadership with Esau (see Midrash Rabbah and Ya'ishlach, 15:15)… And all those who demand to behave with an upright back and shout and fight, against the state authorities, have already been compared by the great Rabbi Zalallah to a certain extent to "Zionists", who behave and demonstrate "power", "strength", "strength and courage".

    I also remember hearing (although I did not see it with my own eyes) about a pamphlet written by Rabbi Lando in which he permits evading taxes and not paying the state for various services. In this matter, he certainly outlines an appropriate path for the current coalition (do not be suspicious of the authorities: taking from the state is not forbidden, הא). In Bnei Brak I heard about it from many people and it is clear that the things were known there.

    And this is what is said: the national camp, the Zionism law, the right wing in full force, etc. 🙂

    1. Speaking of the second thoughts from the last columns, do you think that here too the Haredim live in second thoughts when on a declarative level they oppose the state, but in practice they support it?

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