Between Messianism and “Messianism” (Column 585)
With God’s help
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In the previous column I mentioned the matter of messianism. I argued there that the way the Religious-Zionist party relates to reality (in particular, its disregard for realpolitik considerations) strikes me as messianic. In this column I will try to define more precisely what I mean by this term—at least my meaning. The discussion is based on a seminar paper written by my daughter, Bruria, with my assistance (which appears here on the site), which examines whether Religious Zionism is a messianic movement. In the introduction she writes that dealing with this topic requires caution, since we lack a sufficiently long perspective and because we ourselves are involved in these processes and identify with the different conceptions, one way or the other. Nevertheless, in my view this is an important discussion to conduct on its merits. Here I will present the gist.
Redemption and Messiah as Principles of Faith
In Maimonides’ Thirteen Principles, brought in his introduction to Perek Ḥelek, the twelfth principle is belief in the coming of the Messiah and in redemption. There he cites biblical and prophetic sources for this belief. In Mishneh Torah, Laws of Kings, chapter 11, he repeats this. Belief in the coming of the Messiah and in redemption is considered a cornerstone of Jewish thought and of halakhic Jewish identity, and it seems there is no sage or halakhic decisor today who disputes this.[1]
Beyond the fact that the coming of the Messiah is a binding principle, the Sages command us to engage in hoping for salvation. This belief is not only an intellectual stance (knowing that the Messiah is supposed to come); it obligates us to a certain inner state: anticipation. A sharp expression of this appears in Shabbat 31a:
Rava said: When a person is brought to judgment, they say to him: Did you conduct your business faithfully? Did you set fixed times for Torah study? Did you engage in procreation? Did you anticipate salvation? Did you delve into wisdom? Did you infer one thing from another?
That is, every person is required to anticipate salvation—something beyond mere belief in the coming of the Messiah. So explains the Ran there in his novellae:
“Did you anticipate salvation.” Rashi explains: in the words of the prophets. One must further explain: Did you anticipate salvation in your days? He did not say: Did you anticipate that salvation will come to Israel—for one who does not believe that is an epikoros, for the epikorosim do not believe that salvation will ever come to Israel. So it is explained in Tosafot.
Thus the anticipation must be concrete, not just a general belief.
In addition, the Bible and rabbinic literature give various signs and descriptions of the redemption and of the generation of redemption,[2] such as changes in the world’s conduct (not unequivocal, except for the end of subjugation by foreign kingdoms),[3] the land’s blossoming, the return of Jews to it,[4] and the like. These signs spur engagement with redemption and with identifying the period in which it will come. Not only do they make such engagement possible (since one can compare the era’s signs with those given by the prophets and Sages), but it would seem that giving signs also legitimizes the very engagement. Sometimes the engagement is purely theoretical (perhaps as part of anticipating redemption), yet usually the motivation to engage with the signs and with identifying the period awakens in difficult times, or in times when these signs seemingly begin to be fulfilled (as implied by the expression “a revealed end” in Sanhedrin 98a). Needless to say, this phenomenon is indeed widespread in our day, and it is one of the foundational pillars of Religious-Zionist outlook.
Between Messianism and “Messianism”
This introduction raises the basic difficulty regarding the term “messianism,” which has acquired a negative connotation. What could be negative about messianism? Seemingly there is an obligation to believe in the coming of the Messiah and to engage with it, perhaps even to hasten his coming. Is there room for a negative connotation of the term “messianism”? For what follows, I will distinguish between messianism without quotation marks—a neutral, factual description of relating to the Messiah’s coming—and “messianism” with quotation marks—a phenomenon that we perceive as negative. The attempt to define the latter leads us first to the calculation of the end (ḥishuvei keitz), and perhaps also to “forcing the end.”
The Problematic Aspects of Engaging with Redemption and Bringing It
That same sugya in Sanhedrin discusses the calculation of the end. At the beginning of the sugya (Sanhedrin 97b) we find several Sages who calculated the end:
It was taught: Rabbi Natan says, this verse pierces and descends to the depths—“For the vision is yet for the appointed time; it speaks of the end and does not lie. Though it tarry, wait for it; for it will surely come, it will not delay.” Not like our Rabbis who expounded “until a time, times, and half a time,” nor like Rabbi Simlai who expounded “You fed them bread of tears, and gave them tears to drink in great measure,” nor like Rabbi Akiva who expounded “Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens and the earth.” Rather: the first kingdom—seventy years; the second—fifty-two; and the kingdom of Bar Koziva—two and a half years.
Yet despite all this, the verse in Habakkuk is ultimately expounded as a reproach to those who calculate the end:
What is “[it] speaks of the end and does not lie”? Rabbi Shmuel bar Naḥmani said in the name of Rabbi Yonatan: May the spirit of those who calculate the end be blown away, for they say: Since the end has arrived and he has not come, he will no longer come. Rather, wait for him, as it is said, “Though it tarry, wait for it.”
From the Gemara one could learn that one should not hang one’s anticipation of the Messiah on any calculation. Yet there is no explicit statement here forbidding engaging in calculation and expounding the verses. At the end of the sugya it indeed seems that the main point is not to base one’s anticipation on a calculation, but we do not find there a prohibition of the calculation itself. This emerges clearly from Rashi’s comments on the sugya. In Maimonides, however, we find that in his view it is forbidden even to interpret the verses in a way that calculates the end. His words convey concern about any engagement with this topic, as though it were dangerous explosives. In his halakhic work he returns to this: after concluding the signs of redemption and the traits of the Messianic King, he warns (Laws of Kings 11:4): “But the thoughts of the Creator cannot be grasped by man, for our ways are not His ways, and our thoughts are not His thoughts.” And further he writes (Laws of Kings 12:2):
All these and similar matters a person will not know how they will be until they are; for they are hidden matters even for the prophets. The Sages also have no received tradition regarding these matters, but only their interpretation of the verses; therefore they differ in these matters. In any case, the order of the events of these matters and their minutiae are not fundamentals of the religion; and a person should never occupy himself with the aggadot nor lengthen on the midrashim said concerning these matters and the like, nor make them a principle, for they do not bring one to fear or love [of God]. Likewise, one should not calculate the ends; the Sages said, “May the spirit of those who calculate the end be blown away.” Rather, one should wait and believe in the matter in general, as we explained.
“Forcing the end” is also considered problematic. Thus, for example, in the Three Oaths in Ketubot 111a, according to one version, we are adjured not to hasten the end (and the version before us reads: not to delay it—see Rashi there). But even about this one can raise questions. Thus we find in Sanhedrin 20b:
So too would Rabbi Yehuda say: Three commandments Israel were commanded upon entering the Land—to appoint a king for themselves, to eradicate the seed of Amalek, and to build for themselves the chosen House [the Temple].
One could think this command was given only for that time (upon entry into the Land). Yet other sources teach that this mitzvah was given for all generations. Indeed, one of the mitzvot enumerated in Maimonides’ Book of Commandments is to build the Temple:
The twentieth commandment is that He commanded us to build a House of service, wherein will be the sacrifices and where a fire will burn constantly; to it one will go up on pilgrimage and gather every year, as will be explained. This is His statement, “They shall make for Me a sanctuary.”
This mitzvah is agreed upon by virtually all enumerators of the commandments, and it is settled halakhah.
We do, however, find in Rashi on Sukkah 41b:
[…] but the future Temple that we await is built and completed; it will be revealed and come from Heaven, as it is said: “The sanctuary, O Lord, which Your hands have established.”
He rules that the Temple will descend built from Heaven, i.e., we will not build it. The Arukh LaNer famously discusses Rashi’s view and writes that other Rishonim agreed with it,[5] yet he is unwilling to accept it:
Therefore it seems to me that certainly the Temple in the future will be built as an actual structure by human hands; and what is said, “the sanctuary, O Lord, which Your hands have established,” which is expounded in the Tanchuma as descending—this refers to a spiritual Temple that will come into the physical Temple built below, like a soul into a body; just as in the Mishkan and the Temple there descended a heavenly fire into the mundane fire kindled with wood. So it appears in the Mekhilta, which expounds from the verse “A fixed place for Your dwelling You have made, O Lord,” that the Temple above is aligned with the Temple below; and this is “the sanctuary, O Lord, which Your hands have established”—that in the future, when the Lord will reign forever, before the eyes of all mortals, He will dwell below within a Temple that is already built and aligned with the Temple above, meaning it will descend into the Temple that will be built.
His claim is that we are commanded to build it; and what the Rishonim wrote about it descending from Heaven means that a spiritual Temple will enter into the physical Temple that we build.[6]
It is possible that one root of this dispute is ideological, not merely exegetical. If the future Temple descends from Heaven, then there is no place for a messianism that aspires to build it. Conversely, the fact that we are commanded to do so teaches that the matter is indeed in our hands. This is the very messianic-redemptive tension described above. Similar debates arise in later generations regarding bringing the redemption; additional sources can be found in Em HaBanim Semeiḥa, which is devoted entirely to this topic.
Indeed, throughout history down to our day, engagement with messianism and messianic movements has aroused grave concern. Messianism is often portrayed as delusional and disconnected, perhaps even dangerous. How is it that attempts to realize a belief so fundamental and important to us are perceived as problematic acts? How are activities to promote the Messiah’s coming and to build the Temple any different from activities to promote Shabbat observance? One might suggest technical distinctions—e.g., between calculating an exact date and trying to identify a general period. But such distinctions cannot resolve the basic difficulty presented here.
It seems the root lies in the phenomenon of false messianism, and in the fears that arise from the history of messianic movements—on which I will comment below.
Is There a Halakhic Transgression in False Messianism?
It is important to understand that despite all the above, we do not find a halakhic prohibition on engaging with redemption, acting to bring it, or calculating the end. Even Maimonides’ severe language (Laws of Kings 12:2), cited above, indicates that this is a matter of policy and guidance, not a halakhic prohibition.[7] It would seem that the concept “false messianism” is, by its nature, more sociological-historical than religious-halakhic.
By way of comparison, note a related but different concept: “false prophet.” The Torah itself—and thereafter the Talmud and the poskim—forbids being a false prophet and also listening to him.[8] Is there a parallel prohibition on being a false messiah? We do not find such a prohibition anywhere. A person who declares himself to be the Messiah may be foolish, unstable, and usually harmful—perhaps all three—but it does not seem he is a transgressor, at least not in the halakhic sense.[9]
The conclusion is that false messianism is a concept rooted in history and sociology, in light of phenomena that occurred and the damage they caused. Therefore, addressing this phenomenon and its contemporary applications must rest also on historical analysis, no less than on examining Torah and halakhic sources.
A Look at History: The Phenomenon of False Messianism
In Jewish history not a few figures and movements arose that declared themselves messiahs, or purveyors of redemption. Almost without exception they were ultimately disproven. Some acted mistakenly and innocently; some explain the non-realization of redemption in their time by saying the generation was not worthy—i.e., they are unwilling to acknowledge that their messianism proved to be false. Others are remembered forever as wicked and deceitful. In some cases there were bitter debates; others remain debated to this day. Note that Maimonides cites Christianity and Islam as kinds of false messianism (but also points to positive aspects in them, as paving the way to a full Jewish monotheism; see Laws of Kings 11:4, cited below).
It is therefore no wonder that terms like “messianism” or “messianic movement” now carry a decidedly negative connotation. In light of historical findings, the idea indeed appears delusional, detached from reality, in many cases extreme, and therefore fear-inducing.
An extreme expression of this fear appears in the thought of Yeshayahu Leibowitz, who said: “I believe in a Messiah who will come. He will always be about to come. A Messiah who has come is a false Messiah.”[10] According to another version: “A Messiah who has come is not the Messiah, or is not a Jewish Messiah” (an obvious jab at Christianity, which sees that man as a Messiah who already came). His intent is that “Messiah” is an idea meant to spur us to action and improvement and to maintain hope, but not a historical prediction. In his view the Messiah’s coming should not be a historical event, but an utopian vision not meant to be realized. The main thing is striving toward it, not its actual realization. David Ben-Gurion once said similarly:[11]
The Messiah has not yet come, and I do not wish for him to come. The moment the Messiah comes, he ceases to be the Messiah. If you can find the Messiah’s address in the phone book—he is no longer the Messiah.
Why such categorical rejection of the historical realization of the messianic idea? Why is the messiah’s being merely potential of such importance to them? Persico, in the piece cited, attributes this to the waning of protest and of the drive to act that has propelled Judaism since time immemorial. Yet one cannot ignore the fear of the effects and consequences of messianism if it proves false—despair and loss of faith—as indeed happened more than once in history.
But the mainstream Jewish view obviously does not accept this interpretation. Belief in the Messiah’s coming is seen by faithful Jews as clearly historical. Still, the dangers that led Leibowitz and Ben-Gurion to such views undoubtedly exist, and it is important to understand how to confront them. These claims cast significant doubt on the very possibility of a messianic movement, since danger and fear constantly accompany it.
This attitude is reflected in negative reactions to any ideological movement that acts too resolutely to realize its utopia. The term “messianism” has been attached to Communism and to today’s progressivism—both entirely secular movements. Here the term denotes extremism and one-dimensionality in outlook and conduct, accompanied by failure to distinguish and a lack of openness to other options and opinions. The eschatological dimension does not exist in such movements, and thus the use of “messianism” appears metaphorical. But perhaps precisely for that reason these examples indicate more clearly the true essence of the concept.
Why Does the Holy One Set Up False Messiahs, and How Do We Know They Are False?
Maimonides writes in Laws of Kings 11:4:
If a king will arise from the House of David, immersed in Torah and engaged in mitzvot like David his father, according to the Written and Oral Torah, and he will compel all Israel to walk in it and strengthen its breaches, and he will wage the wars of the Lord—he is presumed to be the Messiah. If he did and succeeded, and defeated all the surrounding nations, and built the Temple in its place, and gathered the dispersed of Israel—he is certainly the Messiah. But if he did not succeed to that point, or was killed—it is known that he is not the one the Torah promised; he is like all the kings of the Davidic dynasty who were complete and proper and have died. The Holy One, blessed be He, only set him up to test the many, as it is said: “And some of the wise will stumble, to refine among them, and to purify and to make white, until the time of the end; for it is yet for the appointed time.”
Maimonides thus gives a criterion for knowing whether a king who arises for us is indeed the true Messiah. One criterion is success; a Messiah who fails is not the Messiah, though he may be a righteous Davidic king. If he is not of Davidic lineage or does not act to return Israel to Torah, he is not the Messiah. He then explains false messiahs generally as serving to test us. Notably, he sees this as the work of God—He set them up—not merely a sinful person pretending to be messiah.
Maimonides continues in that halakhah with another purpose for some false messiahs (he refers to Christianity and Islam):
But the thoughts of the Creator cannot be grasped by man, for our ways are not His ways, and our thoughts are not His thoughts. All these matters of Jesus the Nazarene and of that Ishmaelite who arose after him are only to pave the way for the true Messianic King and to repair the entire world to serve the Lord together, as it is said: “For then I will turn to the peoples a clear language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve Him with one accord.” How so? The world has already become filled with the matter of the Messiah and the matters of Torah and commandments, and these matters have spread to far-off isles and to many peoples of uncircumcised heart; and they are engaged in these matters of Torah—some say the commandments were true but have now lapsed and are not for generations; others say there are hidden meanings and they are not literal, and the Messiah has already come and revealed their secrets. When the true Messianic King will arise and succeed and be exalted and very high, they will all immediately return and know that their ancestors bequeathed them falsehood and that their prophets and ancestors misled them.[12]
Thus these “messiahs” too are the work of God, not only to test Israel but also to repair the world and prepare the way for the true Messiah. I presume Maimonides does not see Jesus and Muḥammad as positive figures and views their deeds as problematic; the benefit he describes is only a side effect.
Back to Religious Zionism: What Is a “Messianic Movement”?
The question arising here is whether it is not correct to see Religious Zionism as a messianic movement. This is a movement that, contrary to what was usual throughout history—merely to hope and yearn for redemption—decided also to act practically to advance it. Of course one can define it as a messianic movement without the negative connotation, and in that sense this is fairly clear. The question is whether there is not also a negative component, as in other forms of messianism.
We can examine this on two planes: (1) factual-outcome; (2) conduct-value. Above we saw in Maimonides that false messianism is measured by its success. But we are too early on the historical timeline to apply this to Zionism, which is still at its beginning. We cannot now determine whether this process will ultimately achieve redemption or fail. In the previous column I mentioned the tradition that the Third Temple will not be destroyed; if so, there is no false messianism at all—anyone who builds or attempts to build the Third Temple is, by definition, not a false messiah. I also explained there that I highly doubt the validity of that tradition itself. It seems we must wait and see, and history will speak.
The second option is to evaluate it by its conduct in practice. This depends on whether false messianism has inherent traits in its conduct, not only in its success. A priori, it is very reasonable that it does. When we judge a messianic movement—i.e., decide whether it is problematic (not merely whether it strives for redemption)—it is unreasonable to do so solely on the basis of success. If it conducts itself properly and could have succeeded, then its failure does not render it a negative movement. Perhaps the generation was unworthy (cf. Ḥabad; every “messiah” who fails explains himself that way). It is appropriate to judge a person by his motives and conduct, not by the outcomes of his actions, which are not always in his control. Therefore, if we view “messianism” as having a negative connotation, we must define negative traits of conduct, beyond the outcome (which may be an indicator of negative conduct, assuming that one who acts improperly is not granted success by Heaven).
It is important to realize that non-dependence on outcomes holds in the other direction as well. Even if we survey the prophets and Sages and find that Religious-Zionist appraisal of our era indeed reflects them accurately—i.e., the signs of redemption are truly being fulfilled now—that does not necessarily answer the question. Even if there is full congruence between our period and the descriptions in Scripture and rabbinic literature, there may still be room to argue that we must not draw conclusions. False messianism can also be a mode of conduct and a way of acting, not only a mismatch with sources or a historical failure. Hence even if the process succeeds, this does not prove there was no false messianism. We must remember that previous “messianic movements” also used the signs of redemption; every would-be messiah brought proofs—better or worse—for his claim to the crown.
In general, it is implausible to identify false messianism with mere exegetical error—mistakes in interpreting verses or reality. An error per se is not disgraceful. It is quite clear that much of what is problematic in false messianism lies in the manner of action taken in light of those “proofs,” not merely in adducing the proofs themselves.
Messianic Movement: An A Priori Analysis
If historical disproof is not necessarily a criterion for a “messianic movement,” how can we define it? Several possibilities:
- The most extreme approaches (Leibowitz and Ben-Gurion) would say that belief in a concrete, real Messiah—even without acting toward him—is false messianism. I assume this does not fit our tradition.
- A slightly less extreme approach would say that the very fact of acting practically to bring the Messiah makes one a partner in a “messianic movement” in the negative sense. The Messiah is an idea, a person, or a period for which we are to hope (and which is to be realized—unlike Leibowitz), but we still must not act practically to bring it. It is supposed to come from Heaven (as in Rashi in Sukkah cited above).
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An even less extreme approach would say that one may act to bring redemption, but the question is how. According to this view, what defines a “messianic movement,” or false messianism, is undertaking problematic actions to that end. Here one can point to a few kinds of problematic behavior:
- Actions that involve a halakhic prohibition.[13] For example, the Zionist movement established a judicial system that does not operate according to halakhah, seemingly involving the prohibition of “going to gentile courts.”
- Actions conducted in ways not accepted in our tradition, even if not formal halakhic transgressions. For example, cooperation with secularists and heretics, including establishing a government not run by Torah law. Another example is rebelling against the nations and hastening the end (against the Three Oaths in Ketubot 111). Many ḥaredim see in such conduct hallmarks of false messianism or a “messianic movement.”
- Actions lacking justification in realistic thinking, or overestimating our power. For example, selling all our possessions and ascending to a desolate land where we have no realistic chance of settlement; moreover, this entails security risks vis-à-vis Arab states (and the world). Provoking and declaring war on great powers. Some link false messianism to such actions.
To advance, we must try to examine messianic movements of the past and distill from the responses to them the negative components of messianism. This itself is problematic, for those responses were not based on sources but on people’s impressions. Rabbis who wrote what they wrote about Al-Roy, Shabbetai Ẓevi, or any other false messiah expressed a view about their messianism, but they had no sources establishing that view. It is therefore difficult to derive binding criteria for messianism from their statements. But, as noted, “messianism” in the negative sense is not a halakhic concept, and thus it cannot be clarified with halakhic tools from sources. It is more of an historical attempt to distill how messianism in the negative sense has been perceived through the generations.
Historical Summary
A few years ago Binyamin Shlomo Hamburger published False Messiahs and Their Opponents,[14] which tries to place Herzl as part of the series of false messiahs over the generations. The book is written from a ḥaredi perspective and is very tendentious (see Bruria’s paper), joining earlier polemical ḥaredi literature harshly critical of Zionist messianism. It is hard to avoid the impression that some of this ḥaredi criticism rests on those same fears of messianism in general, not necessarily on the specific content of Zionist messianism. Sometimes this is not even conscious, but it is certainly in the background. The book’s aim seems to be to conclude that Herzl is the latest (so far) in the series of historical false messiahs. This characterization is disturbing (to put it mildly), yet the claims warrant honest examination.
The number of messianic movements is large.[15] In her paper Bruria surveys the main messianic movements in Jewish history and the rabbinic reactions to them, and distills from this picture several parameters that characterize false messianism. This is not the place for historical details; I will present only the distilled conclusions. She divides these movements into four categories (and I add comments pointing to possible criteria):
- Bar Kokhba is characterized as using militarily and politically illogical force, defying Heaven (“my strength and the might of my hand”), yet he seems not to have transgressed halakhah. There are no testimonies of using mysticism or Kabbalah. Great Sages supported him, but ultimately the results of his actions were disastrous.
- Christianity departed entirely from halakhah and certainly from traditional principles of faith. It apparently used mysticism and attributed divine qualities to its prophet or messiah. It exited Judaism, with disastrous results throughout history.
- Al-Roy, ʿAmalʾain, Molkho (and perhaps the “Reuveni”) were messianic figures whose main problem was the use of irrational, delusional force and policy. They did not depart from halakhah and principles of faith. Yet their outcomes and consequences were highly problematic. At least for Molkho, according to some Sages, history has embraced and fixed him as a paragon. We concluded that for this type of messianism (not involving departure from halakhah) the outcome largely determined the attitude toward them.
- Shabbetai Ẓevi and the Sabbateans certainly departed from halakhah and faith, ending in conversion. They used mysticism and Kabbalah and gave them novel and deviant interpretations. In addition, they took irrational and forceful actions and brought spiritual calamities upon the nation. This is messianism par excellence.
From this perspective, the second and fourth types are simpler: there one could determine in real time that this was a “messianic movement,” false messianism, since all criteria appear. The other two are not unequivocal; it seems that the consequences of their actions determined the attitude toward them to a great extent. The implicit assumption is that the true Messiah might employ non-rational force, be characterized by extraordinary qualities, and have legends attached to him; if he succeeds, it will be clarified retroactively that he was indeed the Messiah.
Summary: Traits of a “Messianic Movement”
Summing up, several traits recur in “messianic movements” and false messiahs (not all in every case): It usually arises in a difficult period for Jews. A charismatic figure appears who performs wonders, or who wields great power and wealth. Personal veneration ensues (songs in his honor; festivals marking events in his life). He brings proofs from sources and presents signs of redemption and the Messiah’s coming. He engages in mysticism and Kabbalah, sometimes with his own interpretations. He acts actively to bring redemption—either by mystical means or by political-military force. At some point he begins to transgress and depart from the traditional halakhah and faith. He is ascetic, fasting, and appears pious. He brings people to repentance as part of preparing for the Messiah’s coming. He takes rash, non-rational steps by normal considerations, and uses force without prudence. His actions have disastrous results (disappointment and collapse of faith and practice; despair and suicides; conversion; intensifying persecutions by gentiles; ḥillul Hashem as gentiles mock our faith).
In many cases, some insist on continuing to see him as the Messiah even after failure, offering post-facto explanations: He is a true Messiah, but the generation was unworthy. The Messiah united with God and will return. He did not really die; it only appears so. He was misunderstood. And so on.
Diagnosis
There are several factors that make it hard for Sages to diagnose in real time whether we face false messianism—a “messianic movement”—or the true Messiah generating a messianic movement (without quotation marks). There is built-in ambiguity in defining Messiah and redemption. Beyond that, it is very hard to identify and diagnose historically the appearance of their signs. Reliance on Kabbalah makes diagnosis even harder. The hardships and hopes that arise when a “messiah” appears can lead to biased, unbalanced vision. The “messiah” himself may act with good intentions and innocence, even dying a martyr. In addition, there are always post-facto explanations for failure. Above all, the consequences of such messianism come only after the events; thus, in real time it is hard to evaluate and judge it. It is very hard to avoid the question: what will happen when the true Messiah appears? Will we then have clear certainty about him?
In contemporary Lithuanian polemical literature, Ḥabad messianism in the time of the last Rebbe and after his death has been described as a kind of Sabbateanism.[16] It is hard to deny many parallels. The Rebbe was charismatic and extremely learned. He labored mightily to bring people to repentance as part of the redemptive process he preached. He created a global movement of many thousands, governed by a strict hierarchy. He enjoyed—and still enjoys—blind adulation to the point of outright veneration. Many still think the Rebbe did not die. Many also blend him, in various ways, with divinity, in life and after death. Some employ mystical interpretations of his every act, including halakhic deviations (e.g., not sleeping in the sukkah; prayer times). He observed royal customs, and due to his spiritual-political-financial stature, leaders from around the world came to him. Stories of wonders surround him by the hundreds and thousands. The proclamation of his messiahship is recited in many places as part of synagogue prayer (even after his death). After his death, faxes are sent to his grave with questions; lotteries (goralot) are cast in his writings to instruct people what to do in various situations (shiddukhim, business, etc.). Such practices involve Torah prohibitions (“You shall be wholehearted with the Lord your God”; consulting the dead; sorcery and divination). During his life, festivals were set to mark events in his life. After his death, the expected post-facto explanations arose to justify the attitude: He is the true Messiah, but the generation was unworthy. The Messiah united with the Divine and will return. He did not really die; it only appears so. Unlike other ḥasidic courts, Ḥabad refrains from appointing a new Rebbe as successor; to justify this, a mystical theory was created that the seventh Rebbe is the last.[17]
Notably, one indicator of a “messianic movement” is the consequences of the disappointment after the “messiah’s” death and failure. Such consequences have not, in fact, appeared significantly in the Ḥabad context. Faith in the Rebbe continues, but I am not aware of phenomena such as mass conversion, despair of redemption, or abandonment of tradition. The rationalizations—intended precisely to prevent such outcomes—apparently “deliver the goods” here.
As noted above, false messianism is not a formal halakhic transgression—at least as long as it does not exceed halakhic bounds. But in the case of Ḥabad there are also halakhic violations; and even without them, the bitter taste of Sabbateanism makes it very hard to dismiss the phenomenon lightly. Whether this is false messianism is disputed among contemporary sages. It is said that Rabbi Shakh called Ḥabad “the sect closest to Judaism.” Some works claim idolatry and false messianism. Other Torah scholars indeed condemn or mock parts of the phenomenon but refrain from clear judgment—likely due mainly to their great esteem for the Rebbe and his initiatives, and for Ḥabad’s important work worldwide to this day. Another possible reason is that his death did not yield the harsh consequences found after other “messianic movements.”
Among kabbalists and ḥasidim there are attempts to bring the Messiah by mystical actions. These are not messianic movements in the full sense, for there is no practical action of any kind (perhaps except for ascending to the Land of Israel, which is a mitzvah in its own right, unrelated to redemption), and certainly no transgressions or deviations from faith. Kabbalists and Rebbes throughout the generations attempted practical-Kabbalah actions to bring redemption, usually in secret. Some have seen Ḥasidism as a messianic movement in general (a well-known debate between Gershom Scholem and Ben-Zion Dinur).[18] The historian Aryeh Morgenstern, who studies Jewish messianism, argues that the beginnings of the Jewish settlement in the Galilee (Tiberias and Safed) were rooted in kabbalists’ attempts to bring redemption. Likewise the beginnings of Jewish settlement in Jerusalem in the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries.[19]
This is a broad topic and we will not enter its details. In these behaviors per se it is hard to see a “messianic movement,” yet there were cases where the consequences were harsh (the disappointment when the attempt failed). In the final analysis, it seems that in history very few relate to these as “messianic movements,” nor am I aware of severe criticism of the messianism of those involved.
Why? First, the actions were secret. Second, the motives were pure. Third, there was no unjustified, unfounded resort to force, nor consequences arising from unreasonable steps for other people. There were no transgressions or deviations from tradition. No person was crowned messiah or prophet. Usually there were no deviant interpretations of kabbalistic sources. The consequences were generally minor. The phenomenon was not through a public movement but actions of private individuals. The conclusion is that merely acting to bring the Messiah (at least when actions are confined to the “four cubits” of the individual) does not suffice to be judged as “messianic” (in the negative sense).
In past difficult periods, messianic anticipation arose that led people to take unrealistic steps. In some such cases, a great Torah sage arose and took an oath that the Messiah would not come. For example, in the second half of the nineteenth century in Jerusalem, a very strong messianic movement arose (not personal—i.e., with no charismatic messiah at its head). Its consequences were disappointment and mass conversion. In response, it is told that R. Shmuel Salant, Jerusalem’s rabbi at the time, publicly swore that the Messiah would not come that year—to prevent the expected disappointment. This is an extremely unusual and far-reaching step by someone committed to the tradition of awaiting the Messiah every day that he may come. It seems that he viewed this as a decree by a “court below” that the Holy One would not bring the Messiah, to avert the harsh consequences of that “messianic movement.” Similar stories are told about the Ẓemaḥ Ẓedeq and Rabbi Aharon Kotler. Rabbi Aviner relates a similar story about R. Yaakov Gesundheit, the rabbi of Warsaw. Such actions testify to the danger sages saw in false messianism, to the point that they allowed themselves to swear the Messiah would not come (and hoped that God would ensure their oath be fulfilled).
In the final third of the eighteenth century there was a great aliyah of ḥasidim to the Land of Israel, led by R. Mendele of Vitebsk and R. Avraham of Kalisk, two great students of the Maggid of Mezeritch. Thirty years later, in the early nineteenth century, the students of the Vilna Gaon came as well, led by two of his great disciples, R. Menaḥem Mendel of Shklov and R. Saadya son of R. Natan Neta of Vilna.[21] These two aliyot could also be considered messianic movements, yet I am not aware of them being described as such. The reason is that although there was indeed a desire to advance redemption by practical means, those means did not include unreasonable acts, provocation of the nations, hastening the end, or deviation from traditional faith and halakhah. To the contrary, the practical aspect was fulfilling the mitzvah of settling the Land of Israel. Of course, this is not contingent on redemption. According to virtually all poskim, there is a halakhic obligation to ascend and dwell in the Land of Israel; hence the deeds of these two movements are not considered “messianic.” There was no claim to a concrete redemption that could fail, and thus the usual disappointments and harsh consequences were not to be expected.
Religious Zionism
In the last part of the paper, Bruria describes the conduct and conceptions of Religious Zionism. Ḥaredi criticism indeed sees it as a “messianic movement” (in quotation marks, in the negative sense), but, in light of the map drawn above, it seems hard to characterize it as such. There is no halakhic deviation, and generally no unrealistic actions. There is also no personal messiah.
Several leading Religious-Zionist figures addressed these ḥaredi critiques and even agreed with parts of them. Yet that did not prevent them from supporting Zionism. For example, Rabbi Shmuel Yaakov Rabinowitz of Aleksot, among the first rabbis to join Herzl’s Zionist movement, wrote:[22]
[The Zionist movement] has no connection or resemblance to the movements of false messiahs, who misled many of our people at various times and periods; it will not err in fantasies and delusions, it will not hasten the end, and it will not presume to do things beyond our capacity. Nor does it touch in any way upon the belief in the true Messiah anticipated at the end of days.
Under pressure of ḥaredi critique, it appears he even distances himself from blending messianic belief into the Religious-Zionist conception; his aim is to argue that they do not act to bring the Messiah and therefore are not a messianic movement.
Many years later, the Religious-Zionist thinker R. Avraham Korman, responding to the first edition of Hamburger’s book, wrote:[23]
A person who claims or hints that he is the Messiah—in the sense of the one chosen by God to bring redemption to the Jewish people—though Providence has not chosen him for this and has not informed him by prophecy that he is the redeemer, is a false messiah. A person who appears with a plan of how to help or save Jews in a practical and natural way is not included in the concept “false messiah,” for he never claimed to be one.
Here he does not deny that Zionism is part of the redemptive process; rather, he notes that it is done by rational means to improve the nation’s situation, without proclaiming some person to be the Messiah without divine appointment.
The (secular) Zionist movement was not perceived by its members as aiming to induce religious laxity and lead Jews to heresy. On the other hand, it is hard to deny that many who joined it indeed left observance (in my view, partly because of the ḥaredi negative stance toward it, which helped create this reality). I do not think this suffices to define Zionism as a “messianic movement,” for this was part of the broader phenomenon of Haskalah and modernity that preceded Zionism. There is also a basis to claim that Zionism actually saved many from assimilation, by posing a national Jewish challenge even for those not committed to tradition and halakhah. Moreover, it brought millions of Jews to the Land, thus physically preventing—and still preventing—their assimilation.
This discussion also raised the question whether a movement acting to bring redemption can be led by Jews who do not observe Torah and mitzvot. There are many references to this in Religious-Zionist writings. R. Kook already addresses it when he determines that settlement of the Land is the beginning of redemption. Moreover, he claims that what drives the pioneers is indeed commitment to Torah, though unbeknownst to them:[24]
They themselves do not know what they want. So joined are the spirit of Israel and the spirit of God that even one who says he does not need the spirit of the Lord—since he says he wants the spirit of Israel—the divine spirit rests within the very point of his aspiration, even against his will.
I have already addressed the value of mitzvot performed “unknowingly,” and I will not return to it here. But we do see the beginnings of a mystification of how reality and its actors are viewed; more on this below.
It is certainly possible to see in Religious Zionism messianic expectations liable to be disappointed, and, should the process fail, liable to produce harsh results (Bruria quotes there Rabbi Klener’s statement that if the State of Israel is destroyed, he will remove his kippah—a purely “messianic,” Sabbatean expression).
In the final analysis, I think the main trait that might place Religious Zionism under the heading of “messianism” is taking non-realistic considerations into account in setting policy and modes of action. This splits into two parts: (A) metaphysical considerations per se; (B) considerations that contradict realpolitik. I will now address both briefly; fuller detail with sources and quotations appears in Bruria’s paper.
A. Metaphysical Considerations
In several places I noted a commonality between Religious Zionism and its extreme ḥaredi opponents: both ground their worldview on metaphysical foundations. The former see Zionism as the beginning of redemption; the latter see it as the “footsteps of the Messiah” in a negative sense or as the work of the sitra aḥra. The common denominator is that both analyze historical events in mystical-metaphysical terms and even make decisions based on such considerations. This stands in contrast to what was typical of the mainstream of our tradition through the generations: Sages did not set their stance toward phenomena, groups, events, or individuals based on the metaphysical infrastructure animating them. A realistic religious stance must be based on two parameters: (1) halakhah (mitzvot and transgressions in the conduct in question), and (2) realpolitik (chances and risks). Therefore, a realistic religious stance should judge Zionism—for better or worse—by Zionism’s conduct itself: its secularism; the chances and risks of the enterprise; the mitzvot (settling the Land), etc. But both Religious Zionism and ḥaredi opposition do not do this; they set their stance on metaphysical grounds (what will bring redemption and what will delay it). This is manifestly “messianic,” and it is important to understand that it is not typical of how Sages related to events through the generations.
To be clear, I am not yet speaking of the dangers flowing from such an approach. My claim is that recourse to metaphysical considerations is itself “messianism,” since one should relate to the world and its conduct through realistic lenses. Even if one believes that cosmic, mystical processes underlie events, these cannot participate in determining one’s practical stance toward those events. Note: saying that Zionism is the beginning of redemption is not, in itself, “messianic.” It is a metaphysical speculation—true or not—but even if it is a mistake, we may err. Mysticism, whatever our view of it, is not prohibited. The “messianism” lies in setting policy and attitudes toward processes on the basis of metaphysical considerations. This resembles the proscription of “seeking the reasons for the commandments” (taʿama di-kra): there is no prohibition on expounding the reasons, but there is a prohibition on using such reasoning within halakhah, i.e., deriving halakhic conclusions from them.
B. Non-Realistic Considerations
In the previous column I argued that in certain cases recourse to metaphysical considerations leads us to adopt non-realistic policy. We rely on God to bring redemption and permit ourselves risks that, through realistic lenses, we must not take. As Ben-Gurion said: in the State of Israel, one who does not believe in miracles is not realistic. I will not return to this point here, but this is “messianism” in the full sense—taking problematic, dangerous steps because of the supposed divine guarantee of the outcome. The mystical interpretation (and the dubious traditions on which it relies) leads here to steps that can be disastrous. This is messianism par excellence, and in this sense the situations in which it appears reveal the “messianism” latent in Religious-Zionist thought all along.
Conclusion
In the previous column I argued that disregarding realpolitik is a hallmark of “messianism.” Here I wished to place the matter in a broader perspective, by defining “messianism” (in quotation marks, as opposed to messianism in the neutral-factual sense). It is an elusive concept that resists a sharp definition. Yet we saw several of its traits, distilled from historical phenomena that fell under the heading of “messianism.”
The conclusion is that beyond the extreme traits—departing from halakhah, wild mystification, and taking reckless steps—the form of messianism relevant to us is more moderate, consisting mainly of adopting positions and making decisions based on metaphysical considerations. In extreme cases this also leads to ignoring realpolitik and risks. This extreme expression certainly exists in broad sectors of today’s Religious Zionism (see the previous column), but its roots (recourse to metaphysics) have existed in it—and in its opponents—since its inception.
[1] In Sefer HaIkkarim, Maʾamar I, ch. 1, he cites Rabbi Hillel’s opinion from the Talmud which seemingly casts doubt on the Messiah’s coming, but this is only in the discussion whether it is a principle or an ordinary matter. He, too, has no doubt about the validity of this belief.
[2] See Mishnah, end of tractate Sotah.
[3] See Maimonides, Laws of Kings 11:3 and ch. 12, and Laws of Repentance ch. 9.
[4] Ezekiel 36:8; and Bavli, Sanhedrin 98a, and more.
[5] See R. Yissakhar Teichtal, Em HaBanim Semeiḥa, Budapest 5703 [1943], especially chs. 2–3.
[6] Note that in Rashi this is impossible, for he is discussing a prohibition of building on Yom Tov. The explanation is strained, but the very strain shows how important it was for the Arukh LaNer to present an alternative view.
[7] Maimonides himself calculates the end in his Iggeret Teiman. It seems he did this to encourage the Jews to whom the letter was sent. Had he seen it as a halakhic prohibition, it is unlikely he would have done so.
[8] See, e.g., Maimonides, Laws of the Foundations of the Torah, chs. 9–10, and more.
[9] Regarding kingship in general, some poskim hold there is a prohibition to appoint a king not from the House of David (see Book of Commandments, negative command 362, and Naḥmanides on Genesis 49:10). But these sources deal with appointing a king, not with false messianism. To illustrate the difference: if a descendant of the House of David were to declare himself the Messiah though he is not, this would not constitute a halakhic prohibition (aside from falsehood, whose halakhic status is itself somewhat unclear). See also Ari Shavit, “Limmud Zekhut ve-Ḥovah in the Views of Maimonides and Naḥmanides on the ‘Kingship’ of the Ḥashmonaim,” HaMaʿayan 50:3 (Nisan 5770), pp. 98–102.
[10] Oral remarks; see on YouTube, “Yeshayahu Leibowitz on the Coming of the Messiah.”
[11] Cited on Tomer Persico’s blog, Loop of the God (Lulat Ha-El), in the article “Judaism as a Protest Movement,” 2.5.2012.
[12] This passage is censored in common editions, but restored in the Frankel edition.
[13] In Bavli, Eruvin 43a, it is explained that if there is a prohibition of teḥumin (Sabbath travel limits) when descending from the firmament to below ten handbreadths, then the Messiah will not come on Shabbat or Yom Tov. The Brisker Rav proves from here that the Messiah will not come at the price of transgressing a rabbinic prohibition. See, e.g., Rabbi Simḥa Ullman’s article in Yismaḥu, no. 18, Parashat Beshalach, 14 Shevat 5770, p. 3.
[14] Second, expanded ed., Institute for the Heritage of Ashkenaz, Bnei Brak, 5769 [2009].
[15] The phenomenon begins already in the Hasmonean period. Josephus relates messiahs who proclaimed redemption from the Romans (Yehuda ben Ḥezekiah, Theudas, and others). Later came Jesus the Nazarene and his disciples; some classify Bar Kokhba as such (after the destruction). The phenomenon continues and even expands in later history, and many more. Some appear in Hamburger; many others appear in Wikipedia, s.v. “False Messiah.”
[16] For example, perhaps the most strident is David Berger’s The Rebbe, the Messiah, and the Scandal of Orthodox Indifference, Jerusalem: Orot, 2005. More balanced: Samuel Heilman and Menachem Friedman, The Rebbe: The Life and Afterlife of Menachem Mendel Schneerson, Dvir and Shazar Center, 2011. And a more popular and recent book: Yechiel Harari, The Rebbe’s Secret, Yediot Books, Tel-Aviv, 2013.
[17] On this, and on Ḥabad in the time of the last Rebbe generally, see Yitzhak Kraus, The Seventh—Messianism in Ḥabad’s Seventh Generation, Yediot Books, 2007.
[18] See Mor Altshuler’s article, “Against All Odds,” online: www.jewish-studies.info/files/against-the-odd.doc
[19] See especially his books: Mysticism and Messianism: From the Rise of Ramḥal to the Vilna Gaon, Jerusalem 1999; Return to Jerusalem: The Renewal of the Jewish Settlement in the Land of Israel at the Beginning of the Nineteenth Century, Jerusalem: Shalem Press, 2007.
[20] A literary depiction of this phenomenon can be found in Shulamit Lapid’s novel, Keḥeres HaNishbar (“Like a Broken Potsherd”), Keter, 1984.
[21] See Avraham Yaari, “The Students of the Vilna Gaon and Their Settlement in the Land,” Maḥanayim 77, Tevet 5723 [1962–3].
[22] HaDat ve-haLeʾumiyut, Warsaw 5660 [1900], pp. 127–128. Similarly, see Yitzḥak Nissenbaum, ʿAlei Ḥaldi, Warsaw 5689 [1929], p. 147. Nissenbaum relates a meeting with the son of Rabbi Meisel of Łódź, who hurled at him that Herzl is considered by the Zionists as the Messiah, and he was appalled and recoiled from this.
[23] Korman, Avraham, Yehudi ve-Artzo, Tel-Aviv 5752 [1992], p. 155.
[24] Orot, Jerusalem 5680 [1920], “Orot HaTechiyah,” ch. 9.
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During my years of study at the Ma'ale Adumim Yeshiva, one of the things we heard more than once from Rabbi Shilat, and I myself was quite convinced, is that the Messiah is first and foremost a national leader (and not a spiritual one, at least not only), and if he brought redemption then he is the Messiah
Therefore, while Bar Kochba, for example, led, Shabtai Zvi, and unlike the Rebbe, there were spiritual leaders who tried to bring about some spiritual redemption, but to claim that they are true/false messiahs is not the beginning at all, because they are in a different space.
In religious Zionism, they like to quote the wisdom of the sage who said after the San Remo Conference that ’the fear of the weeks has been removed’, but I think that sometimes they see this as permission to provoke nations to an unreasonable extent, and with eternity one is not afraid of a long road but not sure that he has the patience
I think you are taking the term 'messianism' too literally. You can establish a movement whose goals are religious-spiritual and it will be messianic. See the characteristics I described for Chabad. In principle, a sect is also a type of 'messianism' in this sense, but for Chabad it is not just a sect but a messianic sect. The fact that they saw him as the Messiah and cited quotes from the Rambam to support this, and the legends surrounding him with all the other characteristics add to the matter. By the way, Chabad also has something to say regarding Israeli politics, so it is not true that they focus only on spirituality. Beyond that, Shabtai Zvi was certainly a political leader and not just a spiritual one. He initiated a practical and political movement for redemption.
Very interesting. Cheers!
I would appreciate your response to the following points.
1. Every political leadership makes moves that involve certain risks. If we take the legal reform, there are also complete secularists among its supporters who think that this is what is right for the state, that the threats of the end of the state are not real, and that it is forbidden for a powerful minority group (due to the strikes after Gallant's dismissal and the backing, not to mention the marketing, of the entire protest, and comparable to the same media that during the disengagement plan was not even willing to voice a position that perhaps the prime minister was acting out of considerations of escaping justice) to continue to impose its opinion on the people through state media and the courts. Why do you think this line of thought is stupid (as expressed to Likud voters in the previous post) or false messianism (as you expressed to Tziva voters)?
2. Were Mordechai the Jew and Mattathias the Hasmonean false messiahs?
3. Suppose that there is currently no halachic mitzvah to conquer the land and settle in it, etc., is there not a general concept of the "will of the Torah," which arises from its simple study, that God wants us to live in this land, to keep the mitzvahs in it, and to strive for all Jews to do so. Is doing actions (in which there is no real fear of endangering lives) to that end considered messianism? And if there is such a mitzvah, would we not do these actions even if there is a certain real risk in doing so?
1. Obviously. The question is how many risks are taken and for what (what is the expected benefit in relation to the risk)?
2. Absolutely not. Why do you think so? And did they act according to metaphysical considerations? They tried to save their lives and the observance of the commandments of the Jewish people from danger.
3. When you do these actions for a halakhic reason, there is no messianism in it. I wrote this. And when there is a certain risk, it is of course reasonable (see 1).
The discussion of messianism is interesting but has no connection to political reality (apart from a few esoteric ones). The term messianism was introduced into use by opponents of settlement in Judea and Samaria to discredit them. A kind of equivalent of fascism. There is a cynical use here of the negative connotation that the term messianism has in our history.
Obviously. When you search for the term messianism, you'll find that it was created in the 1970s. That's well known. I just didn't understand why you're talking about the connotation that the term has that doesn't exist in our history? Oh, you probably mean history since the 1970s.
It is interesting whether Rabbi Hillel, who believes that there is no Messiah for Israel, believed in Leibowitzian messianism, and conversely, whether Leibowitz relied on Rabbi Hillel, so that in his opinion he remained within the bounds of Jewish tradition.
I have no idea. It seems not, because he says that they ate it in the days of Hezekiah, meaning that it has the potential to come true.
But I really didn't understand your question about Leibowitz. It's clear that he didn't rely on Rabbi Hillel, and it really doesn't matter if he did. Who did Rabbi Hillel himself rely on? Was he really part of our tradition?
Peace and 🙏 on the waiting column.
I would take Rabbi Kook's words more seriously:
“What they want they do not know themselves, so connected is the spirit of Israel with the spirit of God, that even those who say they do not need the spirit of ’, because they say they desire the spirit of Israel, the divine spirit is present in the very essence of their aspiration, even against their will.”
See Secularism | Chapter 5 – Language and Story – Last Chapter
https://youtu.be/2UG9_Y6Xuxw
23:40 onwards - the very first minute is significant
(Gershom Shalom's words to Peretz Rosenzweig on the Hebrew language)
The rest of the chapter has a correspondence with Gershom Shalom's words and how they stand out in the lives of Israeli culture to this day.
And actually Chapter 4 too
Secularism | Chapter 4 – There is no God but He gave us the land
https://youtu.be/XE3fQlw5xe8
In his book ‘The Great Era’ Chapter Eight, called “The Beginning of Redemption by God, Not by a Flesh-and-Blood Messenger”, Rabbi Kosher often cites sources and evidence that redemption will come by God Himself, who will place it in the hearts of the people of Israel, provided that the nations of the world help Israel establish an independent state.
The words of the Metel HaGalim are quoted in the sources of the Rebbe as Midrash Tanchuma (after the death of Ot 12): “The Holy One said, ‘In this world you were saved by men, in Egypt by Moses and Aaron, in the days of Sisera by Barak, etc., but in the future to come I myself will redeem you.’”
This is also the case in a different style in Pesikta Darab Kahana (end of verse 12), and Bilkut Shimoni (end of Chronicles 2:13), as well as in Midrash Tehillim, Psalm 23:8, and in Psalm 1:1, where the Holy One promises us that He Himself will redeem us. The words of the sages are summarized by the rabbi Kasher, who explains from the aforementioned midrashim that the Holy One Himself will supposedly redeem the children of Israel in the future redemption, and it will not be through flesh and blood.
Also, in response to the Amora of Rabbi Hillel who wrote so explicitly, the rabbi Kasher cites other Amoraim who supported his approach, such as Hanin in Bereshit Rabbah (58) according to the commentary of the beautiful Ta'ar (from the Turkish sages of the 17th century), and proves that even the one who said in the Midrash Tanchuma believed in the opinion of Rabbi Hillel, who believed that the Holy One Himself will redeem the people of Israel.
How can it be that you issue a statement that recommends and is very worthwhile spending money and evading the reserves (stop volunteering), and that is completely fine and a huge sanctification of the ’, and in contrast, rabbis who simply sign a letter to “boycott Strauss” are, in your opinion, a huge blasphemy.
Does that make sense to you?
You don't think that. .
Hello
There is a more preliminary question regarding the analysis of messianism (when in my opinion the general course of religious Zionism is indeed connected to the ground).
And it is your criticism in general of the ability to know what the concepts of messianism and redemption are and the ways in which they appear.
What first raises a more preliminary question is how one can generally know the truth in various sources in the Jewish tradition: - in the Bible, in the Sages and in the Kabbalah.
I am intentionally presenting the question in general because it is fundamental and it is not clear to me through your clarification of the subject.
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If you read the column, you could see that the question is not whether the movement of religious Zionism was grounded. I wrote that it was.
I did not understand your question. What does it mean to know the truth from various sources in the Jewish tradition? How can one know the truth from various sources in the philosophy of sociology? What answer do you expect?
Regarding presenting a question in this way, see column 560.
Aya, I hope the klein and hamorin you present when you study Gemara look better. I at least recommend that you make sure they are on the same axis. Then, it is also desirable that they maintain some kind of hierarchy between the teacher and the learner. It is worth practicing this a little, and I am sure that if you try and work on it, you will also make progress.
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A. You wrote, “Belief in the coming of the Messiah and redemption is considered a cornerstone of Jewish thought and Jewish-Halakhic identity, and it does not seem that there is a sage or halakhic authority today who disagrees with this.” Don’t you disagree with this, according to your view that Judaism is only the observance of Halakhic law?
B. According to the sources you cited, it is possible for a Jew to observe all the commandments and be as meticulous as possible and still be punished because he would not expect salvation. Isn’t this proof that Judaism includes more than just observing the halakhic obligations of the 13 commandments?
A. I neither disagree nor agree. I have no position on issues that I have no way of clarifying. I have written more than once that halacha has no authority over facts (such as the nature of a louse), and the coming of the Messiah is a factual claim.
B. I did not write that a Jew would be punished for this. But in principle I see no reason to punish him for this, as for immoral behavior. What does this have to do with the definition of Judaism? A Jew can also be punished for not being a human being. To the same extent, other non-halakhic requirements can be demanded of him (for example, prioritizing the law of the law, or the degree of chassidism. See also my article on giving and giving: Halacha Sabra and the Will of God).
A. Even if we assume that the law has no authority over the facts, the law does have the authority to determine who is considered part of the Jewish people and who is excluded. Do you agree with all the sources you cited that those who deny the coming of the Messiah are excluded?
I'm not familiar with this concept and it's not very interesting to me either.
You wrote that belief in the coming of the Messiah is considered a cornerstone of Jewish-Halakhic identity. So what concept are you unfamiliar with?
Part or not part of all Israel
Rabbi Dr. Reuven Uriah HaCohen wrote a book that explains the Lubavitcher within the framework of a logical and common sense work plan.
And even when he saw at the end of his days where things were going (false messianism was the opposite of his plan)
He gave a simple and clear speech to stop everything with the power of Nissan 557
‘Everything we did was vanity and emptiness’
Although Chabad prints it with the change that everything we did was with great difficulty, but the recordings are clear.
What do you think of that?
He is a talented man with a tremendous realistic initiative, but he himself is an inspiration that it is going towards Jesus or another madness that knew how to stop in time
I don't buy it. I already brought the story of Rabbi Schach's son who was asked by the Rebbe to tell his father, "It's not me, these are my followers." Rabbi Schach told him to tell the Rebbe that he should tell his followers, not Rabbi Schach. And hey. If it was important to him, he wouldn't be content with a questionable word in one of his speeches, but would clarify it clearly, loudly, in the eyes of all Israel. These are stories of anecdotes.
I didn't understand, but the coming of the Messiah is not about sages but prophets, and they do have authority?
What is the question? What does it refer to?
Prophets have no authority except in relation to the people of their generation. And laws from the words of Kabbalah have halakhic status. Prophecies and values of one kind or another are not learned from the prophets, as I have often stated. And regarding facts, no one has formal authority because it is not defined in relation to facts.
If we accept them as true prophets and they prophesied that there would be a Messiah, then we have an obligation to believe that there will be a Messiah, don't we?
There is no obligation to believe anyone. If you believe, you believe, and if you don't, then you don't. There is no such thing as an obligation to believe in a fact.
Beyond that, the books of the prophets are obscure and open to many interpretations. Even Rabbi Hillel knew them, and yet he believed that there was no Messiah for Israel.
It's not clear to me that if someone has the power of a prophet and after a while he makes another prophecy, I don't have to believe him?
There is no such thing as having to believe him. There is an obligation to obey him. There is no authority regarding facts.
Just a note, the words of R’ Hillel can be interpreted differently. See the head of Amana by R”i Abarbanel, p.
Everything can be explained in a non-simple way.
The question of what is a forceful and unrealistic policy is usually in retrospect.
Regarding Zionism itself, there were many who in real time thought that it was an unrealistic policy. And if in the War of Independence Israel had lost (something that was completely realistic in the first months of the war), or if Operation Moked had failed and we would have been badly beaten in the Six-Day War or if in ten years an Iranian atomic bomb would fall on us, etc. ’ – suddenly this is an unrealistic policy?
A deterministic view would say that success was inherent from the very first moment. But assuming free choice, the results of the action – even of a messianic movement – will not always indicate how unrealistic the action itself was.
Therefore, using this argument against the policy of someone you oppose is to shoot the arrow and then mark the target. Usually, realism (minus miracles, of course) is also part of the argument.
There is something in what you said, but you exaggerated. There is common sense about the magnitude of the risk that is taken in the face of the problem and in the face of what is to be gained. In the War of Independence, there was a possibility that we would lose, but it would not be unrealistic to take it. Uri Milstein generally claims that we would have been stronger. But even without him, it is not an unrealistic risk, especially in the face of the alternative of being under Arab rule. Today, the coalition is taking significant economic, security, and social risks, with the main idea being to appoint a few corrupt people to key positions and a necessary but not very important and really inaccurate correction of the strength of the judicial system vis-à-vis the government. This is clearly unreasonable.
In my opinion, although this was mentioned in the column, not enough weight was given to the difference between a personal messiah and a movement. In the serious incidents of false messiahs from which we always shy away, there was a personal messiah. And in religious Zionism there is none.
There is a discussion about this at work. In my opinion, it is not a matter of principle. There were messianic phenomena of expecting a Messiah without a personal Messiah. In any case, I wrote that most of the elements of messianism do not appear in religious Zionism, except for metaphysical considerations and, in parts of it, unrealistic thinking.
In the book of Rabbi Shlomo Molcho, the Life and Death of Messiah Ben Yosef, Ben Necham Ilan claims that Rabbi Molcho saw himself as the Messiah, see the review by Prof. Nacham Ilan, Messiah Died Fulfilling His Mission, on the website Musaf Shabbat, Makor Rishon.
In my responses to the review, I quoted the words of Prof. Meir Benyahu, who doubted whether Rabbi Molcho really saw himself as a prophet or Messiah? Rabbi Molcho was a senior statesman in Portugal in the past, and his plan had a political basis. To organize a Jewish military force that would assist the Christian European kingdoms in conquering Israel from the Ottomans.
About 390 years later, Zh’Botinsky and Trumpeldor conceived a similar idea: to establish a ‘Hebrew Battalion’ that would assist the British Empire in conquering Israel from the Ottomans, so that the British would support the establishment of a ‘National Home’ for the Jews in Israel. Rabbi Molcho preceded them with the idea of the ‘Hebrew Battalion’.
With greetings, Fish’l
Among the lovers of Zion and religious Zionism, there were Rabbis Eliashberg and Reines, who did not want to link the return to Zion to redemption. Even those who saw the return to Zion as the beginning of redemption say that this process is a preparation for the stage of the coming of the Messiah, since redemption comes gradually, beginning with the people, settlement, and the establishment of self-government under the authority of the nations. But the end of the process depends on the will of God to send His Messiah to bring about the complete redemption.
On the concept of the growing redemption, see the article by Prof. Yitzhak Kraus, The First Vision (on the website of Musaf Shabbat, Makor Rishon). In my responses there, I quoted the words of the Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Nissim, who cited sources for this from Sephardic sages in the 18th-19th centuries. In fact, these are the words of Rabbi Yehuda Halevi (at the end of ‘HaKuzari’) that Jerusalem will be rebuilt when the Israelites actually show their desire, come to the Land of Israel and settle there.
Regarding Rabbi Herzog's statement that there will be no third destruction – there is an article by Rabbi Ari Shevat that explains its sources, in my response there I brought the words of the Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Nissim, in his article ‘Shaber HaTelbiziya Be Shabbat’ (in his book ‘Lador Ve Dorot’ Vol. 1’), that even though we are assured that there will be no third destruction – from ‘Lamichash Me'i’. It seems that the certainty of the good end of the process – does not exempt us from the duty of caution. The consciousness of mission – obliges us to act in the best possible way ‘to correct’.
I brought up Rabbi Nissim's words (which I mentioned in the last paragraph) in my response to column 238, "Metaphysical Considerations in Determining Ideology." See my responses there: "A Look of Hope at Reality," "The System of Balances," and "Rabbi Nissim's Intermediate Method."
Best regards, Fishel
As Rabbi Herzog says, Rabbi Yoel Ben-Nun narrates: “Rabbi Yosef Kahneman re-established the Ponivz Yeshiva in Bnei Brak during the Holocaust; in 1772 he heard that landowners on the southern coast were selling land at zero prices, and he received land from them almost for free in the Ashdod sands, saying: “We have accepted that there will be no third destruction in Israel!” On this land, years later, the Ponivz-Ashdod Yeshiva was built (Bina Torah, Vayikra Bamidbar, p. 217).
With greetings, Fishel
In the 26th chapter of Av, the following should be noted regarding Bar-Kokhba:
A. The distress that led to the revolt was real. The Roman decree prohibiting circumcision, due to the ‘epidemic of conversion’ spreading through Roman high society. The revolt failed, was brutally suppressed, and led to decrees that were fatal in the short term, but after a few years the Romans realized that it was better to let the Jews practice their religion, and left the severe prohibition on circumcision for the entire population, thus stopping the conversions.
B. The revolt was not hopeless in principle. The rebels put up a serious ‘fight’ that caused the Roman army heavy losses, for which the emperor did not report to the Senate ‘legions of peace’. The rebels could also expect that a prolonged rebellion would provoke a ‘chain reaction’ of rebellions that would disintegrate the power of the empire.
C. The debate among the sages about Bar Kochba did not begin because of the ‘test of success’. It began when Bar Kochba was at the height of his power. The dispute was over the definition of the Messiah. Is he a military-political leader ‘a king from the house of David’ who frees the nation from the slavery of the Gentiles and establishes the rule of the Torah, or does he have to be a person with the Holy Spirit ‘a morach vadayn’. And the different opinions among the sages are represented in the dispute between the Rambam and the Rabbinical Council.
With greetings, Fishel
After you define messianism, among other things, as politically irrational behavior and reliance on providence, you are arguing for two groups. Both hold the ideal of redemption. One mixes metaphysical considerations with earthly considerations, and the other completely abandons earthly considerations and relies entirely on a miraculous act that will advance its vision of redemption. In your opinion, the first is actually messianic. Amazing! And this is just one of the series of errors in this article.
A. Dear, you must urgently work on your logic. Anyone who thinks that redemption will come by miracle is not a messianic. A messianic is someone who thinks that this world is proceeding in its current course by miracle. Is someone who thinks that the parting of the Red Sea was a miracle a messianic? The comparison is between the attitude of the two groups to the processes that are happening today and what considerations should be taken into account when making decisions about it.
By the way, both are messianic in my opinion. So your reading comprehension is not that good either.
I hope you discovered many such errors in my column, because this is an indication that my logic is built for falsification.
In the 27th of Elul, 3rd of July
It is worth noting the article by Rabbi Eliyahu Galil, ‘On the Path to Monotheism’ (on the ‘Mossaf Shabbat – Makor Rishon’ website) which cites the words of the Maimonides that the Messiah will bring the world to faith and to the worship of God in ways of peace through its spiritual influence (as King Solomon did). In my comments there I brought parallels in the words of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov and Rabbi Kook.
With greetings, Fishel
From a perspective that denies intervention, the discussion about the Messiah that you have conducted here is irrelevant. If this is a process that is managed by us, it would be strange to claim that it must be managed at a certain pace or by a certain person. What is important is that the considerations be adapted to reality and the law. From this it becomes clear that you intend to discuss from a perspective that believes in intervention and that it is important to identify the Messiah, assuming that there is such a model of a person who is expected to lead the people (it is possible, of course, to discuss whether it is necessarily a single charismatic figure or a process of independence, but in the column you took the first option, so I will not discuss it at the moment). From this perspective, it would be strange to exclude intervention from the considerations of reality, if it is a fait accompli in certain cases, why should we ignore it? You can argue that the historiosophical analysis is not reliable enough to identify when there is intervention, but this is different from the claim that completely denies reliance on intervention (think of a case of a prophet announcing an expected intervention, isn't it justified to consider that?). Furthermore, the claim that the mainstream in Chazal denies reliance on metaphysical considerations is wrong. Ben Kusba, whom you include for some reason in the list of false messiahs, is supported by Rabbi Akiva, with a metaphysical analysis of his achievements. Note that even those who disagree with Rabbi Akiva do not deny his methodology. Maimonides also speaks of this support from Rabbi Akiva, and it seems that he supports your opinion. You can bring additional examples if you wish. Your inclusion of Ben Kusba among the false messiahs is based on a shaky foundation. There is no evidence that he sees himself as a messiah or anything of the sort. He did not act rashly (he prepared in advance for the rebellion by digging tunnels, stockpiling food, and waiting for the right moment). Moreover, in the coin he issued, he makes way for Eleazar the priest, an action uncharacteristic of a false Messiah. Therefore, there is no evidence that he saw himself differently from the leaders of the great rebellion.
I apologize if I offended you in my previous response.
You didn't hurt. Everything is fine. But I refer you again to what I wrote. It is clear that if the Almighty God brings a Messiah, it will be with His involvement in the world, otherwise He did not bring him. My argument about lack of involvement is concerned with the ongoing management of the world. And yet we are not supposed to engage in metaphysical speculation in order to make decisions, and whoever does so is a messianic. Decisions are supposed to be made from real politics and halakha. Also because you can never be sure of the metaphysics that you are a daimon, but beyond that there are the echoes of the lambs of Drachman, meaning that metaphysics is the domain of the Almighty God and not ours. Just as Joseph was not supposed to worry about the fulfillment of his dreams.
If there is a clearly identified Messiah here, perhaps there is room to make decisions based on this identification. This is not the case now. Whoever thinks so himself says that he is a messianic.
I agree with the gist of what you said here (I assume you intended to add to this the condition of recklessness as a result of relying on providence, otherwise Rabbi Yossi ben Kasma, who said, "This nation is from heaven, the king of kings," was also messianic, and who wouldn't be? I will only point out that in my opinion, significant nullity as a result of such reliance is almost equally serious, even if semantically it doesn't qualify as messianism). On the other hand, I disagree with the realistic analysis. In my opinion, there is no significant group in the national religious community that acts (and not just speaks) in a messianic manner as you defined it. Usually, these will be marginal groups or hillbilly boys who haven't had enough experience with the world to realize that, at least de facto, they don't trust in miracles.
“The Maimonides” also speaks of this support from Rabbi Akiva, and it seems that he sides with your opinion” – A typo of course. In my opinion, he does not side with your opinion, but with Rabbi Akiva's opinion, which is different from yours (inserting metaphysical considerations as a basis for acting on it).
To my understanding, if I expand on the writer's argument, messianism in its political sense can be expressed in a political venture whose risk assessment is based on the assumption that if the probability of success is realistically estimated at about 70 to 100, for example, then God will cover the remaining 30 percent, if there is religious/political effort. In other words, it is a matter of taking into account a metaphysical factor as one of several factors that influence the chance of success, which is actually a logical bias. This also always allows for the excuse of failure that the effort was not full gas, and therefore the influence of the metaphysical factor was not significant enough.
Still, in my opinion, the distinction made in the article between belief in the coming of the Messiah, and belief in the need to act to bring about the Messiah politically, is a subtle distinction that is very difficult to market to the masses. I find it hard to believe that the very act of educating people to believe in a clearly irrational idea like the coming of the Messiah is a correct thing, and so I would tend to prefer Leibowitz's interpretation, which perhaps sees it as a metaphor. Second, one might wonder whether the above diagnosis is even correct according to the Bible. After all, all kinds of disasters happen because "they will do evil in the sight of the Lord" or "they will continue to do evil in the sight of the Lord," meaning that according to the Bible there is a connection between political action and a metaphysical result, at least seemingly. Here too, it is perhaps possible to explain, even if it is doubtful whether this was the poet's intention, that the corruption of society leads to its weakening and disintegration, and thus to explain the matter rationally.
In my opinion, the problem with believing in a messianic narrative is that it “projects” the spiritual process of connection with the Creator (and with the truth) forward towards some near or distant future, and there are 3 problems with this:
1. It becomes a group “obsession” that constitutes a strong glue of action towards something (like a team that wants to win a game) and thus promotes herd, “tribal” and belligerent behavior (in reality today this can be perceived as blessed, because we are facing an enemy with exactly the same kind of tribalism).
2. The projection of truth and enlightenment towards a future external figure - neutralizes the need for each individual’s personal process. Instead of being the “messiah” for himself and being redeemed in an authentic process of development, the person simply surrenders to a narrative that is not here and not now. Nor is it within him.
3. The desire to revolve the entire narrative around messianism (and also the identity of “people of choice” respectively) closes the ears of these believers to other narratives… because it must be true, because the coming of the Messiah is the main thing and it is forbidden to doubt or open one's mind.
(Compared to a person in a true personal spiritual process - whose main thing is direct experience and inner truth, and therefore is open to a variety of inspirations, techniques, and images from different sources).
I hope I am understood.
A messianic narrative is a socially consolidating narrative like no other. Herein lies its charm, and here also lies the pitfall that lies in it for a life of inner development (instead of community consolidation).