Kiddush Hashem from the frogs

Chen Chen
That is, there is no halachic explanation for this.

See here – mdabraham on the Israeli website:
https://www.bhol.co.il/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=2746181

Wow. What expertise!! It turns out that I did write about this once and didn't remember. And reading it now, I think I wrote it well.
Congratulations on the referral.

How sad to see our teacher and rabbi, Rabbi Micha Hasan, the late, from whom we learned so much, and today he doesn't even think about it because it is necessary 🙁

It's a real shame. A large part of Miki's creative skills and talents are not being expressed. It's a shame. And that's why we lose.

Can I copy the material here, for the benefit of those who have their account blocked?

I am really moved by the obituaries, although the rumors about the death of the old Mikhi are exaggerated and premature. The difference is not between the old Mikhi and the new Mikhi, but between Mikhi who had time and Mikhi who has no time. And between Mikhi who wrote a long time ago and Mikhi who forgot what he wrote. And check it out carefully.
But since I also once knew the old Mikhi, I can only join in the eulogy. He was truly a great man. May his right protect us.

I also noticed a change, it's really unfortunate, I hope he recovers quickly.

For the barriers between us (it's not that I'm not blocked, it's just that in the etrog we can't stand up to our Rabbi's statements):
And the Gemara in Pesachim 55:2 brings a puzzling verse:

Listen, this is what Thodos, a Roman scholar, taught: What did Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, who gave [themselves] to the fiery furnace for the sake of the holiness of the Lord, see? They carried frogs on themselves, and what about frogs that are not commanded for the holiness of the Lord, as it is written in +Exodus 7+ and they came [and went up] in your house [and went up] and in your ovens and in your leftovers. When leftovers are found near an oven, he says, "When the oven is hot, we who are commanded for the holiness of the Lord, all the more so:

What is the meaning of this verse? And do frogs have a choice? And the first ones on Atar begin to discuss what was the meaning of Hananiah Mishael and Azariah, who should have been deprived of the frogs? Rashi writes that they considered demanding that “life be in them” – and not that they should die in them. And the Toss rejects this, since it is a matter of the law, and of the public (see Toss on Atar), so it is clear that the soul must be given up, and there is no “life in them” (except for the Riash, for which there is no halakha like it). And the Rashi there explains the line that frogs do not have “life in them”, so the line is a paricha.

And here I saw in the Torah here (and after him a group of Acharonim, see Tzlach, Shpa, Chath, which not all cite him) that they wrote that they learned from the Torah that if the frogs were saved from the ovens even though they were not a mitzvah (were they saved or were they saved? Where did they get this from?), they would certainly have the oven cooled down for them (as indeed happened). This is of course difficult in the simple Gemara.

Incidentally, this consideration is cited in the Gemara as an indication that Thodos was a great man (= Thodos), and therefore he was not excommunicated even though he gave an incorrect instruction (to eat goats from Koles in the Hebrew Bible). But immediately afterwards, an opinion is presented that he was justified because he supported Thodos and not because he was a great man. And it is hard to avoid thinking that this statement ignores the previous evidence because it belittles this strange line.

So what did Chazal and the early ones really want here? And are the Drushim not bound by some elementary logic? What does this really teach us? How is it possible to take this consideration seriously, to interpret it halachically, to provide explanations for it, and so on.

I have a possible explanation, but I will wait to hear what the public thinks first.

Now.

Indeed, with great sorrow and dark sadness, we witness that Rabbi who does indeed attribute great importance to the legends of Chazal, and does not accept other Chazals who do not accept the same Chazal as something essential.

I have a possible explanation, but I will wait to hear what the public thinks first. What then is the possible explanation?

See the link above. It appears later in the thread.