Meat consumption today
We all know (and you wrote this too) about the cruelty in the economy today. You don’t need to convince me of that.
I asked: Is there a halachic (not moral) prohibition on consuming from such places? Does the prohibition also apply to the buyer, and why? And do you know of any responsa literature on the subject?
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Thank you.
After I wrote the question, I found that you addressed this about a year ago on the site and wrote “that it is completely forbidden”. Now you have already withdrawn from it, right?
https://mikyab.net/%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%AA/%D7%A2%D7%9C-%D7%98%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA/
If you mentioned the thread, it would be appropriate to read it and see that my position has not changed.
Abuse is a grave prohibition and consumption is an accessory. But halachically, it should be relaxed because your contribution is minimal and the public cannot stand it. Just like I wrote here.
There: “That it is a complete prohibition”. Here: “And it is still difficult to categorically state that there is a real prohibition in this”. For some reason it seemed a little different to me, but really it is not important this history. In your opinion there is a prohibition in this matter.
And by the way, Rabbi Caesar's book is really unconvincing, and in my opinion there are distortions there. However, regarding the last part (and not the first part related to the Nidud).
And what will His Honor do about the words of the Ram (Yodhya 433:3): “And they used to leniently treat in our city those geese that are fattened to make fat from them.” And it seems that the Ram (and other poskim) were not bothered by the issue of the sorrow of fattened geese, and apparently they believed that there was no (halachic) problem.
And yes, I am aware that today there is cruelty that goes beyond fattening geese, and therefore why did fattening not benefit them?
Is it possible that because the human race benefits from it, this is called a “human need” that is permitted? But where does the line cross?
I don't know what your honor will do, but in my opinion it is forbidden and I disagree with the Rema's words.
Just to note that the source of the Rema is probably the answer to the Terumat Hadshan (Teshuvah 12), which writes that there is no halakhic prohibition if it is for human needs, but it is customary to avoid things that have a degree of cruelty and are also liable to be punished for it by Heaven, as we learn from the incident about Rabbi and the Calf.
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