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The witness’s argument

שו”תCategory: philosophyThe witness’s argument
asked 2 years ago

In notebook number 5, you wrote about Yom’s counterargument:
“According to Hume’s approach, it is impossible for us to accept this report from him, since we would always prefer the assumption that there was a lie or an illusion or some other distortion here. If so, according to David Hume, no report of a revelation can be accepted by us. So now come and think, is it any wonder that in our experience we do not know of revelations? Revelations can occur thousands of times to thousands of people, and yet from our point of view there are no revelations. Any report of a revelation would be rejected out of hand because of Hume’s argument of criticism. Furthermore, even if the revelation had occurred to us ourselves, we would prefer the interpretation that it was a hallucination to the possibility that it actually happened. If so, Hume’s argument of criticism builds itself up.”

I think Yom meant something a little different than you seem to have understood here. His point was that for us, personally, as those considering whether to accept the argument, there never was a revelation. So, as someone who has never experienced a revelation (or anything else supernatural), why would I believe that all the miraculous miracles described in the Torah (when miraculous miracles appear abundantly in other traditions of the period, and when it is completely out of my own experience) are more likely than there being a mythicization or ingrained story in the people in some other way than miraculous revelation?


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מיכי Staff answered 2 years ago
That’s how I understood his argument and answered it.

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אוהד replied 2 years ago

From what I read, there was an ignoring of Yom's reasoning for the events described in the Torah being improbable. You said that this is the desired assumption because he did not prove why it is improbable, but it is clear to us that it is improbable from our current experience of the world.

מיכי Staff replied 2 years ago

Absolutely not. My argument was that if we have concluded that there is a God, then his revelation to us is not improbable. If you assume atheism then it is improbable. The fact that it doesn't happen often means nothing. That's his policy. Solar eclipses don't happen often either.

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