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Q&A: Time for Torah Study and Another General Question

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Time for Torah Study and Another General Question

Question

Hello Rabbi!
I’ve been looking at the questions asked here for a long time, and at the same time at your answers, and I think you deserve tremendous appreciation. Both because of your answers, and because of establishing this platform itself, and of course for dedicating your time to it. I even dared to ask here today. (The question “Consciousness and Its Advantage”). So truly, you are appreciated for this.
Does the amount of time for Torah study vary according to a person’s daily schedule, or is there only a minimal required amount of study time and nothing more? (Meaning, even if a person is “idle,” would a minimal amount of, say, two hours be enough?)
A general question:
In what ways nowadays does a newly religious person meet a woman? (For the purpose of marriage, of course.) Let’s say I have no problem “making a move” with a woman—is there a setting in which there is nothing wrong with that from a halakhic standpoint nowadays? (If you can’t address halakhic decisors, then perhaps according to your own view.) What about a secular woman who would agree to become religious for a specific partner? Is that possible, or is it really not recommended, as I already understand it to be?
 
Thank you very much.

Answer

Many thanks.
See my article on leisure time in Jewish law: https://mikyab.net/%D7%9B%D7%AA%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9D/%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D/%D7%94%D7%A4%D7%A0%D7%90%D7%99-%D7%91%D7%94%D7%9C%D7%9B%D7%94
I didn’t understand the question. Are you asking factually (I don’t know), or what is proper? In my opinion, any reasonable way is proper. Does “making a move” mean approaching her in order to go out with her? So what’s wrong with that?
I don’t know what it means that she would agree to become religious for the guy. Does she believe or not? Does she observe the commandments or not?

Discussion on Answer

Ariel (2021-05-24)

I mean from a halakhic standpoint—what is proper, probably.
Yes (approaching her). In the secular world it’s not bad, but from what I understand, in the religious world it’s problematic. (And honestly, it also doesn’t look so good.) I understood that in the religious world it is considered proper only through a matchmaker-style setup, or on dating sites for religious people—which is also disputed from a halakhic perspective—and that is really a serious challenge for someone newly religious.

I don’t mean someone who is a heretic, but someone who believes, or has some basis for belief (I really don’t know how to define it for you), who simply never had the chance to get to know religion, but would agree to live a religious lifestyle, including observing the commandments on her part. (How she would agree and why, I have no idea. Just a hypothetical example.)

Michi (2021-05-24)

You don’t need to pay attention to everything everyone tells you, and you also don’t necessarily have to follow common social conventions. That doesn’t necessarily obligate you. In my opinion there is no problem at all with that kind of approach, neither halakhically nor otherwise, so long as it is done politely and modestly for the sake of a proper, lawful relationship.
If she is willing to take upon herself the yoke of the commandments, what is wrong with that? On the contrary, you also have the merit of bringing another Jewish woman back to her halakhic commitment. If she does it only superficially, or only for your sake, that may pass with time. It’s not clear that it’s worth building on that. Maybe it would be worthwhile to try—let her begin entering a religious framework, and see how it develops.

Ariel (2021-05-24)

Wow, that’s surprising.
I wonder whether there are many others who follow the path you follow. (Not only individually, but also as a “group.”)

Look, I won’t lie to you, and I assume you know this too, but you are probably viewed differently, to put it euphemistically, among people who are exposed to your way of conducting yourself.

Take Leibowitz, for example. As I understand it, he is controversial in the religious public. (Is it permissible to say that, or is that gossip, Heaven forbid? If it’s forbidden I’d be happy to censor it.)
On the other hand, I don’t know whether to say “to distinguish” or not, so as not to offend the former, Heaven forbid, Maimonides was also seen as controversial in his time.
And today the positive force of his stature is well known.

Personally, I appreciate you very much, by the way. (As mentioned, and without trying to flatter, Heaven forbid—just an additional clarification.)

But that still doesn’t stop me from asking: how are you perceived halakhically? Do you fulfill the positive commandment of “make for yourself a rabbi”? And again, is there a particular “camp” or stream that your practices belong to?
Again, sorry if this is too bold, but I’m genuinely curious.

Thank you!

Michi (2021-05-24)

I don’t understand the question. I don’t have a rabbi, and there is also no commandment to make for yourself a rabbi. There is a recommendation in Ethics of the Fathers to do so, but unfortunately there is no one I have found who can serve as such a model for me. There is no stream known to me that conducts itself according to everything I think. Why should there be one? What are the odds that there would be an entire stream that conducts itself exactly as I think, unless they were my foolish students (and I hope I don’t have any of those).

Ariel (2021-05-25)

So by what path do you proceed halakhically?
When people ask halakhic questions, according to what rulings do you answer?

Thank you!

Michi (2021-05-25)

According to what seems right to me. I don’t know how to define a path. I do not follow a particular halakhic decisor (I doubt that this is even permitted. There is a responsum by the son of the Rosh that forbids it).

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