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Discussion of a law prohibiting the purchase of prostitution services that recently came up again

Question

In the days leading up to the war, this charged topic again returned to the headlines and public debate. I formulated a number of insights that I would like to test in light of your general approach to Jewish law, morality, and modern society. Precisely on the basis of your own words—in books, posts, and debates—and using the halakhic-conceptual tools you propose, I want to raise a practical question that may surprise some readers, but which in my view follows from a straightforward and faithful understanding of Jewish law in its deeper sense.
I would like to formulate the question against the background of three planes: halakhic, moral, and legal—and briefly:
If we want to analyze and isolate the seemingly problematic features, from what I can gather from the Rabbi’s remarks (and not necessarily from anything the Rabbi explicitly said about this topic itself, as will become clear below), then we have to discuss three supposedly problematic aspects. I stress “supposedly,” because as will become clear later, once the minefields are dealt with and dismantled, the conclusion will of course turn out to be, as stated, surprising.
On the halakhic plane: There is the well-known Talmudic passage familiar to every yeshiva student, Kiddushin 40a: “Rabbi Ilai the Elder said: If a person sees that his inclination is overpowering him, let him go to a place where he is not known, wrap himself in black, and do what his heart desires, but let him not profane the name of Heaven in public.” The Rabbi has already elaborated in many places about “first-order” halakhic ruling—for example in the recent article “On the Status of the Secular Person in Our Time”—that we do not need a survey of the existing approaches and disputes about them. In the Rabbi’s own words, “conceptual analysis and common sense take us directly to the promised land.” I want to sharpen this even more: I do not even need the major innovations the Rabbi developed at length in the third book of the trilogy, Walking Among the Standing, regarding a systematic theory of Orthodox changes that create dynamic Jewish law through the toolbox found within it itself—examining the status of Jewish law within Jewish faith, the different kinds of authority, the value of autonomy and its relation to truth, the various modes of halakhic decision-making, especially in unfamiliar situations, the question of halakhic authority, the place of the decisor’s policy in the decision-making process, the relation between Jewish law and morality, and commitment to external values and modernity—but, as stated above, only simple common sense). And let us return to the Talmudic passage above. Contrary perhaps to the mistaken understanding we got used to in the yeshivot, as though there is some between-the-lines statement here of a “quantitative prohibition”—that the act is really forbidden, only if you are going to sin anyway it is preferable to minimize the prohibitions—in my opinion the statement here is exactly the opposite: a halakhic “qualitative permission” {though of course not an absolute one, as is often the case}, on precisely the same model as the permission regarding the beautiful captive woman, about which the Torah “spoke only in response to the evil inclination.” Here we are not dealing with an ordinary evil inclination that we are required to overcome and not violate the prohibition, but with that very “evil inclination” defined in Jewish law such that one attacked by it is considered under duress. (Clarification: this need not even be an urge defined in Israeli law as an “uncontrollable impulse”—even less than that—just as Jewish law recognizes that the status of a woman who seduces a man is that he is regarded as “coerced,” and obviously not the other way around.) And in the language of the Talmud: “if a person sees that his inclination is overpowering him”—the writer says: this clearly implies that it is not just the ordinary inclination that we are usually expected to fight and defeat, but a special overpowering, at the very highest level, ten on the Richter scale, equivalent to the angel who pushed Judah to do what he did with Tamar, about which we do not find anywhere in the words of the Sages that he was punished, aside from a poetic allusion in the Ashkenazi penitential prayers of Elul. And the Talmud says in active language: “let him go to a place where he is not known, wrap himself in black, and do what his heart desires,” only with the qualifying condition that he should “not profane the name of Heaven in public”—that is, let him do it, but at least make sure it does not become known. And it is clear and obvious, and hardly needs saying, that if Torah-level prohibitions of actual intercourse fall away, then all the more so—many times over—the prohibition of “do not stray after,” which is lighter than the act itself, and not to mention rabbinic prohibitions, for “they decreed it and they can release it.”
Second problem, moral: This hurdle is much easier, since we are dealing with the consent of both parties and with payment that in the aggregate is equal to, or even more than, that of any senior programmer in the Ministry of Defense. Everything the Rabbi argued in the well-known debate with Yaron Yadan regarding the episode of the beautiful captive woman—that there is still a moral problem here—aside from that being a major novelty in itself and the Rabbi’s opinion being a lone opinion on this issue, “and even the guarantor needs a guarantor.” Here, even according to the Rabbi’s own view, it would be permitted, since all of the Rabbi’s argument there for prohibition was because the case involved a soldier coming to rape her against her will, and even so the Torah permitted it. That indeed could perhaps be grounds for a moral prohibition. But here, as stated, that is entirely irrelevant. So what do we have here? There is no issue of duties between man and God, and no issue of duties between man and his fellow—so what residual trace of prohibition remains? Menstruation impurity! And what we heard in the yeshivot about prohibitions in the style of “a person against himself”—those are invented prohibitions from the moralistic school of the supervisors of ethics, and it is unnecessary even to give them a gram of serious attention. (And I do not accept all the claims of the self-righteous and sanctimonious types, under the influence of progressive movements like MeToo and the like, that she does not really want it, only she is in an inferior position, etc., etc. There is no such concept in the Torah that we would claim someone does not really mean what they say, because there would be no end to that. And even if it were so, we hold that matters in the heart are not legally binding, and here there are not even matters in the heart. There are many women in the industry who earn and make a good living, who themselves are fighting to make it legal and turn it into another prestigious profession, and who argue for its normality as practiced in Holland and other enlightened European countries, and nobody is authorized to decide for them. And that is even without having to invoke the well-known topic of “he was pressured and sold,” discussed by the halakhic decisors and ruled leniently. In any case, the burden of proof to try to find some fictitious prohibition here lies on those who are shouting themselves hoarse about it, quite simply.)
Third problem, legal: The easiest of all. A. As far as I know, it is still stuck in committees and was stopped by Simcha Rothman. B. Even if it passes into law, this is a matter of risk versus chance left to each person’s own decision, as shown by the high rates of consumption across every type and shade of the social spectrum. And here we still remain in the Haredi world “on the first track,” where nobody really fears that when he comes to the next world he will be asked about violating a secular law, plain and simple. But I would like to suggest something new, and here is really my question to the Rabbi: since the Rabbi is always accustomed to discussing things from the side of the “categorical imperative,” in my opinion that too is absent here, because the constant concern is that if everyone behaved this way society would fall apart. But here that is precisely the heart of the claim: if both parties consent, there is no collapse and nothing of the sort. We would become like the Netherlands and other countries on the list of enlightened societies. It is up to the choice of the people involved, and no society has fallen apart because of this ancient profession, when every man and woman is master over his or her own self, and no fundamentalist element has any right whatsoever to impose its emotional problems on me.
 

Answer

Let me note that this peace-to-you lengthiness makes reading and responding very difficult, and most of it is not really necessary. As for your actual claims, I will address the three angles briefly.
Halakhically: the interpretation of Rabbi Ilai’s words seems to me exactly like the accepted interpretation. First there is a prohibition, and then you say he is under duress. Duress is not the absence of a prohibition but an argument for lack of culpability. Therefore, with regard to permitting prostitution as well, one cannot infer permission from here, only lack of guilt. That does not mean it should be permitted by law.
Morally: you are conflating the act itself with the system of prostitution. Indeed, the act itself is not morally prohibited if it is with the consent of both parties (though in the case of a married person there is room to discuss it, but that is another matter). But from there to institutionalizing a system of prostitution, or abolishing a legal prohibition in order to allow it, the distance is great. Those who deal with this issue (whom you accuse sweepingly of progressivism and so on) argue that there are many situations in which the woman does not truly consent but ends up there against her will. One can discuss what counts as consent for this purpose, but you move this into the legal-halakhic domain, whereas here we are speaking about moral consent. Moreover, sometimes the law can change the situation so that the woman really will not consent and will find another way out. Sometimes people in distress need help not to choose the easy solution. Obviously this is not always true, and obviously the starting point is that people decide for themselves, but there are cases where that is not so. Seat belts in a car or drugs are such cases. True, there society pays a price, but the same applies here.
As for the beautiful captive woman, you decided that I am a lone opinion. You made me laugh. There is no one who does not agree with this. There are some who, because of the pressure, try to manufacture imaginary solutions or ignore morality. But there is no one who is not morally troubled by this permission. My innovation is the simple and obvious solution that people did not think of—the disconnect between Jewish law and morality.
Legally: I did not understand how this section relates to laws. You are talking about the public’s wishes or positions, not about the law. The discussion is about what law to formulate, so what is there to discuss here from a legal standpoint? The categorical imperative is not related to law but to morality, so I did not understand why you brought it in here. And the fact that everyone does it does not in any way mean that this is what they think is an ideal situation. Even if not everything falls apart, that does not mean the situation is ideal.
 

Discussion on Answer

Member of the Third Path Movement (2025-06-24)

I took the rebuke to heart and will try to straighten up accordingly, and this time I’ll really summarize the three angles the Rabbi noted. As I understand it, even if I accept them, at the bottom line there still seems to be agreement between us on the actual point itself.
First angle, the halakhic one: the Rabbi basically just defined the matter in the familiar Talmudic jargon as “overridden” (lack of culpability) and not “permitted.” I have no problem with that. The main thing for me is that he not be punished for a halakhic prohibition that was set aside due to “lack of guilt” in the present case.
Second angle, moral: the Rabbi wrote, “Indeed, the act itself is not morally prohibited if it is with the consent of both parties,” and blessed be He who guided me to the mark. I’ll only add regarding the categorical imperative that the examples the Rabbi gave—seat belts and drugs—are not similar to consensual prostitution, because in those examples everyone agrees, including those who use the drugs, that they are harmful at least to themselves; whereas in our case, this itself is the claim of those who support it: that there is no harm at all in it, and on the contrary, mutual pleasure and prestigious income.
Third angle, legal: I also agree that there are all kinds of situations. Every law in practice tries, as far as possible, to formulate all the possible situations and their rules. If so, again, this is a matter of formal drafting and not a substantive problem or a challenge to the phenomenon itself. It is enough for me if the law at least leaves room for those cases accepted in enlightened countries, as I mentioned.
P.S. Regarding the Rabbi’s comment about the beautiful captive woman: because of the Rabbi’s request for brevity, there is no need for my response, because here we are speaking about consent by both parties and not rape, and that was already morally approved by the Rabbi in the quotation from his words that I brought above, so there is no practical difference.

Member of the Third Path Movement (2025-06-24)

While I patiently wait for the Rabbi’s response to my latest reply to his objections, I am reading on Ynet about a decision in the Knesset on this matter from the past hour, worded as follows: “The temporary order prohibiting the purchase of prostitution services will be extended by five years but will not be anchored in permanent legislation, due to the reservations of the chairman of the Knesset Constitution Committee, MK Simcha Rothman (Religious Zionism), about the current wording of the law, as well as about its effectiveness in reducing the phenomenon.”

Lithuanian Yeshiva Avrekh (2025-06-24)

Sorry for butting in. My question is directed only to Michi (so it should not be understood, even by hint, as though I mean anything personal, Heaven forbid, about the writer of the above comment and his sexual tendencies). Sometimes one line in the Talmud is worth a thousand pilpulim—not to say twistings and empty verbiage going around in circles. Was it not about this sort of thing that the Talmud said in tractate Sanhedrin 63b: “Israel sinned with idolatry only in order to permit illicit sexual relations in public”? Michi, is this not a living example of the twists and turns of that foolish old man, namely our acquaintance the evil inclination, permitting forbidden sexual relations under the guise of halakhic, moral, and legal permission—what route has been crossed here, what is all this word-laundering??? Is anyone immune from the battle with the inclination regardless of which path he belongs to—first, second, third? “The Angel of Death—what difference is it to me whether here or there?” As Balaam said in the upcoming Torah portion, “Their God hates lewdness.” And this discussion of supposedly bizarre and strange permissions, “his staff will tell him”—this itself is the blurring of boundaries and brushing up against the terrible prohibition that is one of the three grave sins for which one must be killed rather than transgress. It is like a drunkard who, if he cannot drink wine, at least clings to talking about wine. I would appreciate a serious response from the Rabbi, and not a cynical one dismissing me with “and let us say amen” or sending me to give a moral lecture in the house of ethics.

Michi (2025-06-24)

Halakhically: there is really no agreement. At first I only commented on your claims. As for the actual matter, there is no connection here whatsoever to Rabbi Ilai, whatever his words may mean. The overwhelming majority of consumers of prostitution services are not under duress in any way. They can do this with a partner permissibly.
Morally: the distinction from seat belts is incorrect. It has nothing to do with whether they agree that it harms them. They want to do something harmful to themselves—why should the state decide? Beyond that, prostitution is also harmful (to the family, and perhaps also to the person himself). He simply has an inclination, just like seat belts, where a person understands that he ought to wear one but has an inclination not to (laziness). I do not see a difference.
Legally: again, I did not understand a word of what you said. But it is not important. I do not agree with a single word, as I explained.

Avrekh, are you really expecting a serious response? To receive a response, you need to write arguments, not sermons. I did not find any such arguments in what you wrote.

Yaakov (2025-06-26)

It is worth noting that in tractate Yevamot 37b there appears a description according to which the Sages, when they traveled to a distant city and left their wives at home, would marry local women (with money, a document, or intercourse—my guess is with money) for a short time—just a few days—and then divorce them. The passage itself focuses on the question of possible mamzerut, that is, whether children from those temporary wives might one day marry descendants from the permanent wife. This explicitly implies that they had sexual relations with them within the framework of valid short-term marriages.

In addition, there is the well-known story in tractate Bava Metzia 85a about the grandson of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, who according to the story engaged in male prostitution—women would pay him for his services. Somewhat surprisingly, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi ordained him as a rabbi, apparently out of respect for his grandfather, without any strongly expressed moral reservation about his actions.

Both cases indicate that halakhic society recognized the existence of sexual relations for payment (or for lustful purposes), so long as they were done under some kind of framework of “permission.”
There is not necessarily moral or ideological approval here, but there is also no sweeping prohibition or severe public condemnation as people tend to think today.

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