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Is the Talmud influenced by external mythologies?

שו"תIs the Talmud influenced by external mythologies?
שאל לפני 9 שנים

Rabbi Avraham, greetings.
 
I would like to ask about the rabbi's attitude towards the extent to which Judaism is influenced by external sources. Many times, mythological creatures are mentioned in the legends of the Sages that almost completely correspond to creatures and descriptions from the mythologies of various peoples and a certain spirit that swept the entire world during the Talmud period and was influenced by the beliefs of many peoples and groups. See, for example, the mermaids in Tractate Bekorot, the great Ram, Rabba Bar Bar Hanna who thought he had reached an island and eventually discovered that he was a whale, the hybrid animals mentioned in the various prophecies, and other animals and situations that "mixed" something with the imagination. Often, this is not a general description or an expression of an idea, but rather a determination of an actual fact. Should we think that Judaism is influenced by external sources and was not given in its entirety to Moses from Sinai? Or is it said that it is, except that the Tanais, the Amoraic scholars, the Rishis of the Hidda, and other sages who dealt with the above subjects are only mistaken in some of their statements, and then there is no sense in analyzing their words word for word, but only as historical interpretation without a hint of holiness.
 
This leads to a bigger question. When we see a spring and next to it we see a stream, let's assume that the stream flows from the spring. Looking at the period and the various customs and examining the Judaism of Narra, it is clear that the Jewish stream came from the era and seemingly has no connection to our present day. Starting with imaginary animals and ending with various "primitive" customs. The relatively inferior status of women, court deaths, and so on. In their time, women were the property of their husbands and if they died by the sword, these principles are no longer valid. Why bother explaining the divine idea behind the sanctification of women when it is clearly seen that this law stems from the spirit of the era? Go ahead and say that the stream stems from a spring located hundreds of kilometers away, even though they are similar in appearance to the water of the nearby spring?
I am a religious person and a layman, and I have searched for an answer in many faith books, both first and last, and have not found an answer to the "spring question" that satisfies my mind and strengthens my faith. I would appreciate the Rabbi's response.
 
With immense gratitude.
Joseph Kanter.
 


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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 9 שנים
Hello Joseph. You asked a question that requires a great deal of time to answer. As a general rule, it is certain that sages were influenced by their environment (just as sages in our generation are influenced by the perceptions and information of their environment). Therefore, if misconceptions were prevalent then, there is no reason to assume that they did not appear among the sages, just like the sages of other generations. The sages were not prophets. Therefore, my principled view is that there is no obligation or authority for the words of a legend, but only for their laws and interpretation. Of course, wisdom and conceptual depth can be found in the legends of the Sages, but the scientific and factual descriptions there do not have to be precise. Incidentally, the Sages themselves did not necessarily intend a factual description. See several articles on this subject in the introduction to Ein Yaakov, as well as the words of the Maimonides in his introduction to the Piyamash on three sects regarding the obligatory attitude towards the legends of the Sages (the fools who interpret them all literally – as a factual description. The wicked who interpret them literally and laugh at them. The wise – who understand that some of them are parables intended to express an idea). As for the concepts that underlie Halacha, the situation is more difficult. It is likely that the inferiority of women in Halacha is also based on the concept that was prevalent at the time. When the Sages come to teach the Torah, they use basic assumptions and concepts that are drawn from their world. On the other hand, the Talmud has binding authority in the field of Halacha. There are various tools to operate here, and I cannot detail them here because it would require a great deal of elaboration (I will go into more detail in the book I am currently writing). In any case, when the Sanhedrin has authority, it will of course be able to change anything it sees fit. Part of our tragedy is the lack of an effective Halacha authority that can adapt Halacha to the time and circumstances, as was the case in ancient times. And yet it is important to understand that the fact that ideas are conveyed through a medium that is imprinted with the stamp of the period does not mean that these ideas have no depth and that they are devoid of foundation. Absolutely not. Sometimes what is needed is a different and contemporary application of that same conceptual layer. Thus, tort law was written about bulls and idiots, while today the medium is completely different. But the ideas of tort law can be completely relevant even today. These are the same ideas in a different medium.

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