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On the Presumption of Innocence and Other Animals (Column 256)

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With God’s help

If you will permit me to repeat a pathetic cliché common in our parts: these days, something momentous has happened in Israel. It has been decided to file an indictment against Bibi, or, in the golden phraseology of the aforementioned gentleman, to stage a putsch against a sitting prime minister by legal means. The discussion surrounding this issue is tainted by quite a few errors and emotions (= two sides of the same coin), and so I thought it proper to take the opportunity to try to dispel some of them. I apologize in advance that what follows is elementary to the point of banality, and I find it necessary to deal with it only because I see how unclear and imprecise these matters are in our public discourse. As Mesilat Yesharim says in its introduction, sometimes it is more important to repeat the obvious than to innovate.

Spurious Correlations[1]

The first point is the correlation between those who support Bibi politically and those who maintain that he can remain in power even under indictment. I have dealt with this more than once in the past, so here I will be brief. The question now before us is a moral one: should a sitting prime minister resign when an indictment is filed against him? There are arguments both ways (mainly one way)[2], and it is no wonder that the public is divided on this question. The question whether Bibi’s policy (if he has one) is bad or good is also an excellent question, except that it belongs to the political-security-ideological plane. Again, it is no wonder that there are arguments both ways.

What puzzles me is why the sides that answer one way on question A are also the sides that answer one way on question B, and vice versa. That is, why the groups that answer ‘yes’ to the first question also answer ‘yes’ to the second, and vice versa. These are two independent questions, and ostensibly we should expect four different groups in the public: those who answer yes-yes, yes-no, no-yes, and no-no. But there are only two: yes-yes and no-no. In previous columns I defined this as a spurious correlation, a phenomenon that reflects the fact that our discourse is biased and tendentious rather than rational. We begin with the conclusion we want to reach, and subordinate to it our answers to all the relevant (and irrelevant) questions. But rational treatment should yield independent views with respect to each such question. A public discussion that fails to distinguish among the questions is a shallow and superficial discussion.

I should clarify here that it is not by accident that I have not dealt here with the question whether the prosecution and the police acted properly or not. The answers to that question can certainly depend on one’s political opinion. Many people on the right feel that these institutions are persecuting the right (without my expressing any view on whether they are correct), and therefore even if there is a dependency between the groups that answer these two questions, in this case it can be understood (even if they are wrong, they are at least consistent). Here the correlation is not necessarily spurious. But the question whether a prime minister under indictment ought to resign is a moral-governance question, and as such it is completely independent of one’s specific political stance. Therefore, here this is a spurious correlation.

The Buzaglo Test

On Friday morning I heard on the radio an interview with two women. One belonged to the group demonstrating in Goren Square in Petah Tikva against the Attorney General. For years she has participated in those demonstrations every week. Opposite her was a protester who comes every week from Eilat (!) to the counter-demonstration. The interview was very amusing, and it illustrated very nicely my longstanding view that many people on both sides lack even the most basic capacity for thought. They can act with great devotion and dedication on behalf of an absurd and ill-defined idea, and for the wrong reasons. Again and again I discover that even opinion leaders are leading their flocks in various directions without having the ability to explain properly why this direction is right in the first place. When one hears their explanations, one understands that these are people who have not really formed a serious position, but a gut feeling suffices for them to invest admirable efforts in advancing their stance.

The interviewer asked the first protester why they wanted to pressure Mandelblit to hurry, given that this is a prime minister and his case ought to be examined carefully. She immediately reacted as though snake-bitten and pulled the expected rabbit out of the hat: the Buzaglo test. The fact that he is prime minister, she said, should make no difference. His case is like that of any other citizen. The other woman explained quite sensibly why the whole matter is baseless political persecution. (A governmental putsch, as we already said?…)

I wondered to myself what the first woman would say if I were to say that Yigal Amir should be judged like any other murderer. No special and retroactive laws, and no special treatment (a ban on pardon, conjugal visits, furloughs, and the like). So what if he murdered a prime minister? After all, the prime minister is subject to the same law as any other citizen (Buzaglo)! It is important to understand that this is not merely a formal comparison. A legal investigation of a prime minister also has major consequences (the government falls; the person elected cannot serve; and so on). It is no wonder that such an investigation is handled cautiously, if only to make sure there is substance to the matter before launching a legal proceeding with all its ramifications. If he is acquitted in the end, it will turn out that there really was a putsch here. A prime minister elected by the public will have been deposed without justification (and do not tell me he can return to politics ten years later when the trial ends and he is acquitted, by which time he will long since have been forgotten, and his replacements will not clear out a place for him even with a tractor). And that, after all, is also the main severity of murdering a prime minister. Morally, he is a human being like any other (Buzaglo), and murdering him is no more severe than murdering any other person (in my view, even less so, because it is murder committed for value-based and ideological reasons). The gravity of murdering a prime minister, insofar as it exists, lies in the consequences and not in the intrinsic severity of the act of murder. Harming a person whom the public wanted as prime minister is harming the public and its will.[3] So why is caution in legal proceedings against a prime minister that lead to injury to the public will not analogous to murdering a prime minister, which injures the public will?! Perhaps you have a distinction (I do not), but I am quite sure that the interviewee never even considered this factor. The political result she so dearly wanted (Bibi’s removal) eclipsed the full range of considerations. She harnessed them all to achieve it (and thus we return to the previous section on spurious correlations).

The Presumption of Innocence: Between the Factual and the Legal Plane

Another matter that keeps coming up in this discussion, this time from the right, is the ‘presumption of innocence.’ How dare the journalists/leftists/protesters and so on behave in an unconstitutional manner, and fail to recognize the prime minister’s presumption of innocence?! How dare they demand action contrary to the law (which allows him to remain in office)? When I hear the deep inner conviction of these speakers, I chuckle to myself. Over the course of my life I have heard quite a few absurdities, and this is one of the greatest.

Indeed, it is true that legally every person enjoys a presumption of innocence, and he may not be punished before he is tried and convicted. But the presumption of innocence is a legal rule, not a rule about facts. If I were to ask you, after it has been decided to file an indictment against so-and-so, what is the likelihood that so-and-so committed act X of which he is accused—would you answer: the same likelihood as that some anonymous resident of Australia did it? That is absurd, of course. Clearly the likelihood that so-and-so did it is far higher. True, one may not take measures against him so long as he has not been convicted, and that is his presumption of innocence, but that is not a determination on the factual plane.

Allow me to bring a few examples regarding this.

one must be concerned (one must be concerned)

The first example this reminds me of is the prohibition against believing slander that I hear. As is well known, it is forbidden to believe it, but one must be concerned (or permitted; see Niddah 61a, and in Chafetz Chaim, Laws of Slander 6:10, and Be’er Mayim Chaim there). That is, if I hear that so-and-so is a swindler, I may not believe it, but I may suspect it and refrain from doing business with him. If I do not believe it, why am I allowed to suspect it? And if I suspect it, what does it mean that I do not believe it? In the Chafetz Chaim there, this distinction is not clear (he takes pains to explain that I may not even entertain doubt about it, which of course is completely absurd).

It seems to me that the meaning of this rule can only be the following. Jewish law itself recognizes a public report as a kind of evidence. If a report circulates about someone, under certain circumstances he becomes suspect in the matter (and sometimes is even disqualified from testifying because of it). A public report is admittedly not evidence in the sense that a religious court would punish someone on its basis. But that is only a legal rule. Factually, a public report does carry evidentiary weight. For all the concerns about deliberate manipulation, such a report still has some clarifying force.

This is essentially the distinction I drew above between the legal plane and the factual plane: legally it is forbidden to accept slander, but factually it is certainly proper and correct to take it into account. It is somewhat like the well-known story about the Chafetz Chaim, who testified in court on behalf of a man he knew. After he left the courtroom, one of his students told the judge that this was a very righteous man, and related that when the Chafetz Chaim wants to send a letter and finds a messenger who will take it to its destination, he buys a stamp at the post office and tears it up (so that the post office will not lose money). The judge did not believe it, whereupon that student said to him: ‘It may not be true, but nobody tells such stories about you and me.’ When a public report circulates about someone, it has an evidentiary dimension, even if not an absolute one: it is forbidden to believe it, but one must be concerned.

"There is a presumption that whatever is in a person's possession is his."

Let me bring another example, this time from a probabilistic angle. In all legal systems, the accepted rule is The burden of proof rests on the one who seeks to take from another. (the burden of proof rests on the claimant). The person holding the money—the possessor—has the upper hand, and if no evidence is brought against him, he prevails in court. The question is why we should proceed this way. Does the mere fact that I am holding the money mean that I am telling the truth and the plaintiff is lying?

In Yeshiva Wiki, under the entry ‘There is a presumption that whatever is in a person's possession is his.,’ they write as follows:

The presumption regarding movable property (usually cited as There is a presumption that whatever is in a person's possession is his.) is a presumption inJewish law whose meaning is that ordinarily, whatever a person is holding belongs to him, unless proven otherwise.

This presumption has several names and appears in many places in the Talmud under different formulations: There is a presumption that whatever is in a person's possession is his., which is the presumption itself; another expression is We do not presume people to be thieves., which is in fact the reason and source of the presumption, stating that an ordinary person is not presumed to be a thief and should not be suspected as such, and therefore when a person is holding an object we should assume it is his property; and a third formulation on this subject is We are as certain witnesses that whatever this one is holding belongs to him., meaning that the fact that what a person is holding is his is so clear that we ourselves are considered witnesses to the matter.

At first glance, the presence of the property in a person’s hands is evidence that it is his. Although the later authorities discussed (see there in Yeshiva Wiki) whether this is a clarificatory presumption or a rule-of-conduct presumption (a legal presumption). Ostensibly, this is a dispute about reality. These views disagree over whether most objects in a person’s home really are his. But on second thought there is no doubt that it is not clarificatory on the factual plane, and no one could dispute that.

This presumption concerns ordinary objects found in some home, such that if we were to gather statistics about them, we would discover that most belong to the homeowner. There is no doubt that if we conducted such a survey, that is what we would find. Does this mean that when such a claim comes before a court, the presumption is that the plaintiff is lying and the possessor is telling the truth? Clearly not. The collection of objects involved in a legal dispute between plaintiff and defendant is a special subset, and regarding it there is no reason to assume that this presumption applies. As I said, why assume that the plaintiff is a liar and the possessor truthful? Think about the set of all objects in the world. As noted, with respect to it there is a majority that are found in their owners’ homes. But within it there is a subset of objects whose ownership is under legal adjudication. Regarding this subset there is no reason to assume that most are found in their owners’ homes (for that covertly assumes that most plaintiffs are liars. Even the Talmud describes a presumption: A person does not make a claim unless he has a basis against the other party.).

To clarify the claim, I will present it using Venn diagrams. Suppose that the ellipse in Figure 1 is the set of all objects in the world. Its right-hand side (the smaller area) consists of objects that are not in their owners’ homes, and the left-hand side, which is the majority, represents the objects that are in their owners’ homes:

Figure 1

Now let us take an ellipse that represents the objects under legal adjudication. The question is where it is located within this larger ellipse. The assumption that the majority exists for this subset as well assumes that this ellipse is divided similarly to the whole ellipse, as in Figure 2:

Figure 2

But this ellipse can also be positioned differently, for example as in Figure 3:

Figure 3

In this model, one cannot infer from the majority that exists in the general set to a majority in the subset of the smaller ellipse.

This is an error that has been studied quite a bit by researchers of cognitive fallacies (see, for example, in my article, ‘The Representativeness Fallacy in Jewish Law,’ and in column 144, on the halakhic and legal implications of this fallacy). Those who suffer from it apply to a special subset the distribution that is true of the general set, even where the subset may be biased (and in our case it is even likely that this is indeed the case).

An Example from the Ketubot Passage: Most women marry as virgins.

The Talmud itself notes this fallacy in Ketubot 16a-b, when it qualifies the majority rule that ordinarily women marry as virgins by the countervailing majority that most women who marry as virgins have a public report to that effect. You can follow the diagrams I presented above, where the large ellipse is the set of all women who marry, most of whom (the side to the left of the line) are virgins. The smaller ellipse represents those among the women who marry about whom no public report went out that they were virgins. You can then immediately see that within the subset of women who married and about whom no public report went out that they were virgins, there is not necessarily a presumption that most are virgins. In fact, this is an even more extreme case than the previous one, because among those who marry as virgins, most do have such a public report. That means we know something about the position of the smaller ellipse (its left side covers less area than the rest of the area to the left of the line and outside it). Even so, we have no way of knowing the ratio between the two parts of the smaller ellipse, and that is the question that interests us here (whether the woman about whom no report went out is a virgin or not).

Let us put numbers into the picture. Think of a situation in which 80% of the women who marry are virgins (that is, the left side in Figure 1 is 80% of the area). Among the virgins, 75% have a public report that they are such. It follows that out of every 100 women who marry, there are 80 virgins, of whom 60 have a public report and 20 do not, plus 20 non-virgins. Therefore, when a woman comes before me and all I know about her is that no public report went out about her, she may belong either to the group of non-virgins or to the group of virgins without such a report, and those two groups are equal in size. Therefore, in such a case I have no way to determine whether she married as a virgin or not (20 versus 20).

Thus, once we have defined a special subset within the general set, it is not necessarily correct to apply to it the majority that holds for the general set.[4] There are many additional examples of this from all areas of life. True, if we have no special information about it, we may infer that the distribution within it is similar to the distribution within the general set. But when we have a special consideration about it (indicating that it is biased relative to the general set), for example that when two litigants come before a religious court both enjoy a presumption of propriety (and therefore among the objects under legal adjudication it is reasonable to assume equality between those that belong to plaintiff and defendant), or that among women who marry as virgins most have a public report (and therefore one may assume equality between virgins without a public report and non-virgins).

Note that the case of non-virgins is more problematic than that of the movable-property presumption. In the movable-property presumption we have a positive rationale in favor of an equal relation between the two groups (both sides have a presumption of propriety), and therefore the smaller ellipse is positioned so that the dividing line passes exactly through its middle. By contrast, in the marriage case we have no positive rationale in favor of inequality within the smaller group, and therefore the smaller ellipse can be positioned in several ways, some of which preserve the majority and some of which do not (this depends on the numbers I presented above. They could of course have been different, in which case a majority would indeed have emerged), as in Figure 4:

Figure 4

In such a situation we assume de facto equality between the two possibilities, because the majority that existed in the larger group has been undermined. When we have no information, we assume that the first majority has been undermined, and then the assumption of equality is negative (because there is no necessity that there be a majority for the other side), and for purposes of the halakhic-legal discussion the picture is like Figure 3 above, though of course factually that is not necessarily the case.

Back to the Presumption of Innocence

Despite everything I have said above, when the two litigants come before the court, the legal presumption is that the money belongs to the defendant until proven otherwise. Although factually there is no basis for this whatsoever, there is a legal presumption that whatever is in a person’s possession is his. This assumption has many varied reasons, some of them self-evident. But these are all legal reasons, and they have absolutely nothing to do with the facts (whose object it really is).[5] Factually, I would say that the likelihood that the plaintiff is lying is more or less similar to the likelihood that the defendant is lying. And yet legally there is a great deal of sense in behaving as though such a presumption exists.[6]

Exactly as we saw in the examples above, in our case too most people whose guilt has not been proven in court are indeed innocent. This is certainly true factually if we look at the entire body of citizens (the large ellipse above; its left side consists of those who are not guilty). An overwhelming majority of citizens have not been accused in court, and therefore their guilt has not been proven, and they indeed are not criminals. But among those who actually are brought to trial, there is not necessarily such a majority.[7] Those who stand trial are a subset of all people (that is the smaller ellipse in the diagrams above), and regarding them there is no reason to assume that most are innocent. Which of the above diagrams represents the situation?

Note that even if we had no information, there are various possibilities (depending on conviction rates and on the reliability of the legal system), as in Figure 4. But as we have seen, even when there are several possibilities the majority has already been undermined and we assume Figure 3, and therefore one cannot apply the majority to the subset. But here we are dealing with people who have undergone a police investigation and against whom it was decided to file an indictment, and especially in the case of the prime minister, who also underwent a hearing before the Attorney General and was equipped with first-rate lawyers, and yet it was decided to file an indictment against him. In such a situation, if I had to bet, it is clear that the more reasonable bet would be that Bibi is not innocent—that is, that he will be convicted.

In this case, the relevant figure is the following:

Figure 5

You can see that in this case, within the smaller ellipse not only is there no majority on the left side (presumption of innocence), there is actually a majority on the right side (those who are guilty).

That is on the factual plane (whether he is guilty or not). On the legal plane, however, it is correct to grant even Bibi a presumption of innocence, that is, not to assume he is a criminal until the matter is proven in court. But that does not mean that this is in fact the more plausible factual possibility. On the contrary, it is more plausible that those against whom indictments are filed are guilty. Exactly as we saw regarding the presumption that whatever is in a person’s possession is his. The legal plane does not necessarily express the factual plane, and yet each has its own justification and it is right to act in accordance with it in the relevant context.

Implications for the Demand for Resignation

What I have described so far does not necessarily mean that one must demand the prime minister’s resignation. On the one hand, on the factual plane it is reasonable to assume that he is guilty and will be convicted, at least on some of the charges (the fact that there are several charges obviously increases the likelihood of conviction). But legally he has a presumption of innocence. One may now discuss whether the demand that a prime minister resign ought to be based on the presumption of innocence (which of course stands for him as well) or whether it should be based on the factual consideration (according to which he is most likely guilty).

The conclusion of this discussion is not unequivocal. One must understand that what is really at stake here is the question of what kind of prime minister we would want for ourselves. Would we want a person who is most likely a criminal (a determination that has passed through several investigatory and legal instances)? In my view, very likely not. Alternatively, there may perhaps be those for whom this does not bother them for some reason (at least so long as it is Bibi). But one thing is clear: there is no place to tie this to one’s political worldview (right or left). This is a moral question and a question about the form of government we would want. And here again we return to the spurious correlations.

A Technical Argument

One might perhaps raise the concern that a policy requiring a prime minister to resign already when an indictment is filed against him enables those who wish him ill to pin unfounded accusations on him in order to get rid of him (what is called ‘a putsch by legal means’), and therefore one must not allow this to happen.

But in my opinion this is a rather weak argument. We are dealing with a demand that arises after several instances have dealt with the matter and said their piece. Moreover, with regard to a minister in such a situation, there is broad agreement that he indeed should resign already at this stage (and so the law also states). Is there no concern about tendentious harassment when it comes to a minister? And again, if these are indeed weak arguments, the correlation between those who raise them and those who support Bibi politically raises grave suspicion (I am using brutal understatement here, of course) that this is a spurious correlation.

We are dealing with a person who, factually, is most likely a criminal. Would we want, because of formal-legal considerations of presumption of innocence, such a person to stand at the head of our state and have control over our fate and the fate of our public coffers? That such a person make the fateful decisions for all of us? I can say that at least I most certainly would not want that. And all this before we have even touched on the difficulty of running a country while also managing a complicated trial, and the division of attention required in such a situation, which itself constitutes a significant consideration in favor of demanding resignation.[8]

Public and Legal Discussion

I think this is what is meant when people call on us to distinguish between the discussion on the legal plane, where every person enjoys the presumption of innocence, and the discussion on the public plane. The point is usually not sharpened, but I think what is meant is the difference between the factual question and the legal question. The claim is that public discussion ought to be based on the facts and not on legal presumptions.

[1] See on this in columns 1, 41, 92, 146, 151, and others.

[2] See my comment here, and the discussion that begins here, and further on in the column.

[3] See columns 242 and 244.

[4] Therefore those commentators are mistaken who see this as one majority against another. The second majority nullifies the first as though it were not there. See the summary of my Ketubot lectures in the recordings here—lesson 8.

[5] This shows that there are reasonings that are not probabilistic and yet are not ‘scriptural decrees.’ I discussed this in the appendix to Kuntres HaMigo, which deals with ‘legal reasonings.’

[6] I think that even the later authorities who maintain that this is a clarificatory presumption do not really mean that it is a factual presumption. They only claim that on the legal plane one should treat this presumption as though it were factual (and not merely a rule of conduct). The same is true of other disputes among the later authorities regarding rules such as majority or presumption—whether they are clarificatory rules or rules of conduct. Usually the factual truth ought to be agreed upon (whether there is clarification here or not), and the dispute is how to treat this rule on the legal level: whether it is viewed as a rule of conduct or whether legally one treats it as though it were clarificatory. A clear example of this is the dispute discussed in Shev Shema'tata and Sha'arei Yosher regarding the rule Does the mother's presumption help the daughter? (see for example here). Suppose a woman had relations with some man, and the question is whether he was of a disqualifying status. If so, he disqualifies both the mother and the daughter born from that union from marrying a priest. The mother has a presumption of eligibility (for before relations with him she was eligible to marry a priest), but the daughter does not, because she was born from that very union. The claim is that if this is a clarificatory presumption, then if we validate the mother because of her presumption, we should validate the daughter as well. If the man involved was not of a disqualifying status, then the daughter too was not disqualified. But if the rule is one of conduct, one can validate the mother and disqualify the daughter. There is no doubt that on the factual plane this rule clarifies nothing (the fact that the mother was born eligible to marry a priest does not mean that the man with whom she had relations was eligible in that respect). Therefore it is clear to me that the dispute is only on the legal plane: whether legally one should regard this rule as a clarificatory rule (even though it does not really clarify) or as a rule of conduct.

[7] This bears on the question of what percentage of defendants are convicted. There are critical claims according to which in Israel that percentage is very high, but just now my friend Judge Menachem Finkelstein wrote an article in which he refutes that claim (showing that it is based on data that are analyzed incorrectly).

[8] See a bit more detail here, and the discussion that begins here.

Discussion

H' (2019-11-25)

Pointing out that a typo slipped in:

(What disturbed them the fact that there are several

Michi (2019-11-25)

Thanks. Fixed.

Phil (2019-11-25)

Regarding the use of the presumption of innocence in the public, rather than legal, context.

In my humble opinion, there דווקא is room for it.
As you wrote, the presumption of innocence on the legal plane has several rationales, but as I understand it, not all of them are relevant only to the world of law.

For example: one reason for this presumption is that, in most cases, it is much harder to prove that someone is innocent than to prove that he is guilty. If we require every person to prove his innocence, and if not he is found guilty, it would be possible to pin guilt on many innocent people.

This rationale is no less relevant on the public plane. Even if factually it is very likely that a person committed a crime, it is not proper to demand that he prove his innocence; otherwise, everyone will very quickly become suspects.

Moreover, even if we believe that it is very likely that someone committed a crime, reason suggests that we should grant him a presumption of innocence (public, not legal) if we want public life to be conducted properly. Otherwise, it will be possible to eliminate anyone relatively easily by convincing the public that there is a chance he is guilty.

Phil (2019-11-25)

Regarding the difference between a minister and a prime minister in the event that an indictment is filed:

One of the reasons a minister is required to resign when an indictment is filed against him, whereas a prime minister is not, is that the Knesset cannot dismiss a minister, whereas a prime minister requires the confidence of the Knesset in order to continue serving. It follows that when a minister refuses to resign under indictment, there is in effect a dispute between one person who places confidence in him (the prime minister) and the prosecutorial authorities, whereas in the case of a prime minister the dispute is between the Knesset and the prosecutorial authorities. In the latter case, the legislator relied specifically on the Knesset because of the concern about a putsch.

Michi (2019-11-25)

That is a formal distinction. The question is whether we would want someone who is likely a criminal to serve or not.

Michi (2019-11-25)

The difficulty of proving is irrelevant. Clearly I do not mean to say that everyone against whom an accusation is raised must resign. But when it passes through all the investigative and judicial instances up to prosecution and the filing of an indictment, it is very likely that this is no longer a false accusation. I addressed the last claim in the column.

Hanan (2019-11-25)

There is no law requiring a minister to resign in the case of an indictment. This is a common mistake because of the Pinchasi ruling. Since then, it has been enacted that a minister is required to resign only if convicted of an offense involving moral turpitude, although the High Court apparently ignores the law.

Phil (2019-11-25)

The distinction is not entirely formal.

Clearly we do not want someone who is likely a criminal to serve, and on the other hand it is also clear that we do not want a “putsch by legal means.”

In the case of a minister, there is no choice but to rely on the prosecutorial authorities, because the alternative is to believe one person (the prime minister) that a case is being stitched up against the minister.
In the case of the prime minister, however, the situation is different. Here the Knesset stands behind the claim that the prosecution is not acting on the merits, and therefore the very likelihood that the person is truly a criminal is lower.

Between Dismissal and Suspension (2019-11-25)

With God's help, 27 Cheshvan 5780

The law explicitly determined that a minister must resign if he is convicted of an offense involving moral turpitude; and a prime minister – only if convicted by a final judgment (that is, after appeal), and it is obvious that before that they enjoy the presumption of innocence (in complete contrast to the 'judicial legislation' from the school of the High Court…).

What there was room to discuss, however, is the activation of the institution of 'suspension,' according to which a civil servant who is in criminal proceedings can be suspended. In such a suspension he is not dismissed from his position, but continues to receive a partial salary. And this fits the situation of “there is reason for concern.” He does not work because of the suspicion, but does not lose his position until his guilt is proven.

Regards, Sh. Tz.

It should be discussed whether a judge who engages in 'judicial legislation' – thereby declares the nullification of his oath of allegiance to the State of Israel and its laws, an oath that is a condition of his serving as a judge, and if so his status is like one who has resigned…

Shimon (2019-11-25)

Only that as far as I can answer, there is no sin in the indictment. And no, Netanyahu’s policy, one thing in speech and another in deed, does not appeal to me.

Ofer (2019-11-25)

Hello Rabbi,

The distinction you made between the legal plane and the factual plane is apt and useful.
At the same time, it seems to me that in the theoretical and important discussion, the issue of public trust in the legal system in general and in Netanyahu’s cases in particular was forgotten. And that is a shame, because your article comes out with a clear and emphatic voice on the whole matter.
Perhaps you will say that the issue of ‘trust’ is a predictable refrain of criminals and their supporters? That may very well be.
However, Netanyahu’s cases do not stand in a vacuum.
There has been sharp criticism of the conduct of the legal system long before Netanyahu’s cases, and not only by politicians (who of course are suspect at every turn) but also by senior and respected jurists.
In The End of Innocence, Professor Daniel Friedman recounts many cases of stitched-up files against senior figures, some of which were closed as though they had never existed and some of which ended in acquittals in court. And incidentally, according to him this is not a collection of cases but an actual method.
Friedman continues there with criticism of the reckless “constitutional revolution” and the disproportionate power of the attorney general and the prosecution.
In Law and Culture in Israel, Professor Menachem Mautner writes that since the political upheaval in ’77, the left shifted the struggle from the political arena to the legal one, and the latter showed great identification with that same leftist hegemony, which since then has been waging the same proxy war.
Professor Shlomo Avineri writes in the article “Enough Centralization” – “Who is the person with the broadest authority in the democratic world?! The President of the United States? The Prime Minister of Britain? The President of France? Certainly not. The answer is the legal adviser of the State of Israel.”
Professor Ruth Gavison too was sharply critical of the system.
Needless to say, all the distinguished people above are not counted among right-wing circles… and that would be putting it mildly for some of them.
Jurists from the former prosecution who claim they have never seen an indictment like Netanyahu’s. (The intention is mainly the inclusion of testimonies and purported evidence which, they claim, is an act that departs from legal protocol, and they note substantive reasons and not only technical ones for the harm in this.)
Against this bleak background come Netanyahu’s cases, from which even more question marks arise regarding the conduct of the investigations and the prosecution, and the existence of unprecedented determinations.

At the end of the article you wrote that “the public discussion is supposed to be based on the facts and not on legal presumptions.”
If so, large parts of the public who have lost their trust in the legal system are doing exactly that.

From the Fourth Side (2019-11-25)

It seems that, generally speaking, the reason most of the “right-wing” camp defends Bibi is that Bibi is only a symbol, and if today the prosecution and the media are allowed to bring him down—any other leader who will be original against the “elites” will be afraid to do things that anger them for fear of a “stitched-up case”….
Indeed, the solution is not proclaiming “King Bibi,” but rather legislating the “French law,” which on the one hand forbids investigating a sitting prime minister, but on the other hand limits tenure…

Michi (2019-11-25)

Hello Ofer.
How does all this relate to what I wrote? After all, I explicitly noted that the loss of trust in the system is understandable (though somewhat exaggerated), and that is not what I commented on. I even argued that the correlation between it and right and left is not imaginary. What I argued is that the presumption of innocence is irrelevant here. If you were to say: I do not believe the whole gang of jurists and Bibi is innocent and pure as snow—then I would probably disagree with you, but I would not raise against you anything I wrote here. That has nothing to do with the presumption of innocence and almost nothing to do with the question whether a prime minister under indictment may serve.

Michi (2019-11-25)

To that I agree. But for some reason Bibi is not exactly rushing to legislate that law. I even have a strong suspicion that he would sabotage it in its infancy.

Yisrael (2019-11-25)

It is worth noting that this is not just a sitting prime minister, but a prime minister serving as head of a caretaker government after failing to form a government in two election rounds. Publicly speaking, there is a difference between the two.

Nadav (2019-11-25)

Hello Rabbi. I would like to disagree with one point in the article:
You asked whether we want our prime minister to be a person who is most likely a criminal.
In your question you defined the concept of criminal: “a person who broke the law and was accused for it.” I do not dispute the definition, but the incorrect feelings it arouses. To the question whether I want my prime minister to be a criminal, I would answer no. But if they were to ask me whether it bothers me that my prime minister parked his car in a place where parking is forbidden and received a ticket for it, I would be less agitated and would even chuckle.
As I understand it, the current accusations against the prime minister do not knock me off my chair. And in my estimation there were prime ministers in the past who did things no less bad (I guess Churchill was not wholly pure, judging by the movie they made about him), and nevertheless, through the force of their talent and the little good morality that remained in them, brought much redemption to the world.

The Beginning of the 'Climbdown from the Tree' (2019-11-26)

With God's help, 28 Cheshvan 5780

The indictment filed against the prime minister has taken the sting out of two of the cases in which people had been terrorized for years over Netanyahu’s ‘bribery-like conduct.’ How the land was in an uproar over the millions Netanyahu supposedly received in cigars and champagne from Milchan and Packer as bribes. And what came of it? The ‘gatekeepers’ approved that the gifts Netanyahu received were gifts of friendship with no intention to bribe.

The only offense the indictment attributes to Netanyahu in the Milchan affair is that he acted under a conflict of interest by advancing or trying to advance several matters that benefited Milchan. And what are these terrible ‘breaches of trust’? That he made sure the U.S. authorities restored to Milchan the visa that had been revoked from him due to involvement in security matters for the benefit of the security of the State of Israel? Why, it is the prime minister’s elementary duty to help a person who acted for the security of the state.

The second ‘breach of trust’ was Netanyahu’s effort with the finance minister to extend the tax exemption for returning residents, something relevant to hundreds of Israelis besides Milchan, and which encourages investors to bring their businesses back to the country—an enormous contribution to the state’s economy. This is the terrible ‘breach of trust’…

The charge against Netanyahu in Case 2000 turns into a complete joke in the indictment. It is clear from the indictment that Netanyahu did not accept Noni Mozes’s bribery offer. Why is there nevertheless a ‘breach of trust’ here? Because in the conversation he created an appearance such that his interlocutor could have thought he was seriously considering accepting the offer. For not crying out against the despicable proposal, but allowing Mozes to detail it while recording it, and then not accepting the offer and doing nothing with it—still, one can always invoke the amorphous clause of ‘breach of trust’…

After the two terrible bribery affairs of Case 1000 and Case 2000 shrank and dissolved away, the distinguished gentlemen – Nitzan and Ben-Ari – were left to console themselves with Bribery Case No. 4000, in which Sara Netanyahu received a few minor favorable articles on the Walla site, articles negligible compared with the sea of hostile articles written by most of Walla’s left-wing reporters – and what exactly did Netanyahu ‘give’? The approval for the merger of Bezeq with Yes, which after all was given unanimously by all the members of the Cable and Satellite Council after many legal and economic examinations. Netanyahu’s signature as minister was purely formal, neither adding nor detracting.

The second crime is the policy of the director general of the Ministry of Communications to carry out privatization of fixed-line telephone services in a moderate and cautious way, in order to prevent wild competition that would lead to the destruction of infrastructure. That was the reasoning Filber gave at the time, and as I understand it he still argues today that it is a sound consideration. Incidentally, while reading Filber’s words, I remembered that years ago I heard the same things from a neighbor of mine in Kochav HaShachar, who explained to me in the utmost simplicity that privatization is not always good. There are things such as education, health, and transportation in which privatization, requiring major price cuts, prevents investment in infrastructure. If I remember correctly, that neighbor’s name was… Roni Alsheikh. If Filber indeed received the clever idea of carrying out privatization cautiously from Netanyahu, then Netanyahu deserves a ‘commendation’ for it, not an indictment.

Netanyahu’s conduct, both regarding the merger of Bezeq and Yes and regarding the avoidance of privatization that brings wild competition, is proper and called for in light of his consistent policy of improving the state’s overall economic condition, of building and not destroying—a policy that grew out of an orderly economic-state doctrine, and did not arise from the negligible personal benefit he received from a few marginal articles.

But Mandelblit acted wisely. Why should he close the last “opening of hope,” the only bribery charge left standing? The only concrete evidence for bribery is the contradiction-riddled testimony of Nir Hefetz, extracted through heavy pressure and severe threats. Let Messrs. Nitzan and Ben-Ari present their arguments to the court, which will presumably acquit him of this bribery charge as well.

What may definitely remain from the whole affair is the charge of ‘breach of trust’ on the ground that he was nevertheless involved in decisions concerning his associates and friends. It is unlikely that he will emerge from the matter with more than a few months of community service, plus a substantial fine and a suspended sentence. Messrs. Nitzan and Ben-Ari and their faction, too, will come out with ‘great gain,’ since the trial will destroy Netanyahu’s political career. The method that worked to remove Yaakov נאמן, Raful, Kahalani, and many others will work here as well. And the whole left will breathe a sigh of relief and bless, with God’s name and kingship, ‘Blessed is He who has rid us of this one’ 🙂 As the poet said: ‘The sun shone and the “method” flourished…,’ and there is nothing new under the sun.

Regards, Parshan-Data de-Lefinger

Corrections (2019-11-26)

Paragraph 9, line 2–3
…more than a few months of community service…

There, line 5
…and many others—will work here as well. And the left…

Michi (2019-11-26)

This is a marginal matter regarding the content of the column. I do not agree with you, but it is not really interesting to discuss it.

Moshe (2019-11-26)

Please explain why it is marginal.
The claim is that the damage he causes the state and the economy (say, an average of half a billion shekels a year, just a number I threw out) might be relatively reasonable “rent” in relation to his services.
In my opinion the only answer is that a criminal of a certain level must not serve because who knows what he might do (for example – disengagement), but even that is a consideration that can perhaps be quantified

Michi (2019-11-26)

Because that is not the subject of the column. Here one would need to discuss how beneficial/harmful he really is (not only economically) and how severe his offenses are.

There Is Still a Long Way to Go (analysis by a retired judge) (2019-11-26)

With God's help, 28 Cheshvan 5780

It is worth listening to the interview with the retired judge Daniel Arnstor (in the article “It will not be the High Court that determines whether Netanyahu continues to serve,” on the Arutz 7 website), in which he points out, among other things, the distance that exists between an ‘indictment’ and a court judgment, which does not always convict, and even when it does convict, it is generally for far less than what was described in the indictment; the retired judge also explains the meaning of the offense of ‘breach of trust’ that the indictment attributes to Netanyahu.

Regards, Sh. Tz.

Ailon (2019-11-26)

This whole discussion is not relevant to the truth. I do not understand at all what the rabbi is talking about here with some general “objectivity” that supposedly exists. This connects to a topic that appeared in one of the previous columns. It is obvious that what is going on here is an attempt by the left to topple a prime minister not through elections. I do not know why the rabbi has such trust in the prosecution (and on the subject of Bibi, also in the courts—especially after the story with the disqualification of Ben Ari). Bibi can be put on trial and judged only by a prosecution and courts elected by the people. The situation here is quite similar to the issue of the effectiveness of conversion therapy. It is impossible to know here what the truth is. Most of the concept of truth is not connected only to facts but to their weight. And it is quite clear that the prosecution is inflating things here and there is selective enforcement. The example of Olmert is not instructive. The left simply has no loyalty to anyone (that is part of the depth of the concept of the left—that it is particulars without a collective. You can see this through the number of Labor Party leaders since Rabin. They switch one every two days). They are a bunch of anarchists who love revolutions (once it was not like that, when they had a state to run). A criminal prime minister, even if he is one of theirs, is a cause for celebration. They (the journalists and the prosecution—as for Mandelblit specifically, I have nothing to say, and he has the presumption of innocence as far as I am concerned. Though it is very possible he collapsed under the social pressure of his friends there. I also have nothing to say about the investigators. They extract confessions of crime by force from everyone, and Bibi’s matters are not unique in that respect. The role of the courts is specifically to restrain them) are simply a bunch of liars and cheats, and if the rabbi believes them that is his choice, but it is quite clear that he too is biased like everyone else. There is no “everyone” here and no point in presenting an appearance of objectivity. Even if Bennett were in power, they would invent something for him at some point. And if there were no facts they would begin to believe in a reality in which he is a criminal and invent facts to support it (as is known, the left is not interested in facts. It lives in fantasies, inventing reality for itself according to what it thinks it should be). The last time the courts were objective was in the 1980s, before they started setting political policy. There is no point at all in talking about “crime” in Bibi’s case because there is not one society here at all. There are two societies here (the right and the left) fighting one another, and as is known, in war there are no rules.

Moshe (2019-11-26)

The discussion is really not very relevant. In a democratic state, a prime minister who did not receive the public’s confidence in elections and did not succeed in forming a government should withdraw, even if only temporarily, from political life. That is the difference between a responsible public servant and the leader of a cult.

Mordechai (2019-11-26)

What is a “prime minister who did not receive the public’s confidence”?
If the intention is that his party did not win at least 61 seats in the Knesset – then Israel has never had a prime minister who “received the public’s confidence.” All Israeli governments since the state’s establishment have been coalition governments.
If the intention is that he failed to form a coalition – that is true. But why should he resign because of that? Perhaps the fault lies with the potential coalition partners who refrained from joining the government for irrelevant reasons and are dragging Israel into a third election campaign? What makes the fault specifically his?
Likud voters can of course decide that they prefer a different leader and vote, for example, for Gideon Sa’ar. But where does the demand come from to forbid the current leader from asking for their confidence once again? It is not clear.
As for the rest of the things raised in the above column, I have much to comment on and object to, and some of it was also written by previous commenters, but a full response refuting the central thesis of this column would become a column in itself (no less long than the current one), and I do not have time for that… (cf. Fermat…).

Filber’s Explanation of the Policy Toward 'Bezeq' (for paragraph 6) (2019-11-26)

As I noted (in paragraph 6), even today Shlomo Filber believes that his policy, to allow ‘Bezeq’ to cancel the ‘structural separation’ in return for its commitment to upgrade the infrastructure, was correct, since unrestrained privatization leads to lack of investment in infrastructure. See his remarks in Avishai Grinzaig’s article, “Filber on the motive to become a state’s witness,” on the Globes website.

Regards, Sh. Tz.

Does 'Conflict of Interest' Disqualify Even in Mere Recommendation? (2019-11-26)

With God's help, 29 Cheshvan 5780

Regarding the ‘breach of trust’ involved when a public servant acts for the benefit of his friends and associates – there is room to discuss whether this flaw exists also in a case where the decision on the matter is not at all within the authority of the public servant, and the whole nature of his action is only lobbying, recommendation, or urging.

Thus, for example, Netanyahu’s request to the finance minister to extend the tax benefits for returning residents – after all, the authority to decide this lies with the finance minister (who indeed rejected the request). Is a public servant forbidden even to make a request on behalf of an associate?

It is worth noting, with regard to what R. M. D. A. said in one of his responses in the discussion on column 224 (about the conduct of rabbinical courts), that there is nothing improper in members of a rabbinical panel consulting with one who disqualified himself from judging because of his friendship with one of the litigants, since the decision is ultimately in the hands of the judges, and the opinion of the rabbi who disqualified himself is only advice and recommendation.

Regards, Sh. Tz.

Moshe (2019-11-26)

It is not a matter of permitted or forbidden. Rather, of the basic fairness of a public servant. One who failed to form a government evidently does not have the support of the majority of the public, and if the good of the public as a whole is more important to him than the good of his party, he should withdraw, even if only temporarily, from political activity. Any reasonable person understands that had he withdrawn, unnecessary election rounds would have been avoided and a unity government would have been formed.

Daniel (2019-11-26)

Regarding slander, where one should be concerned but it is forbidden to believe it.
I always understood the intention to be that only regarding something from which I may be harmed am I permitted to be concerned, but for every other matter I am forbidden to change my attitude toward him; I need to continue “smiling at him,” etc., as though nothing happened.

Regarding the presumption of innocence, as I understand it this means that one may not infringe a person’s rights without proof of guilt. Why should his right to be elected prime minister, and the right of his voters to vote for him, be different? Since there are elections, why not let the voters decide.

If I am not mistaken, in the U.S. it is not possible at all to file an indictment against a president as long as he is in office, so as not to interfere with him. And the way to remove him from office is through the legislative houses.

Indeed, I agree that it would be proper for him to resign (unless he is personally convinced that he is innocent)

Michi (2019-11-26)

You can continue smiling, but if you are concerned there is also a measure of belief in the things themselves. Any other statement is throwing dust in people’s eyes.
The right to be elected does not override my right to receive a worthy person. By your approach, even a convicted criminal could be elected and the public could be allowed to decide. I am not saying your claim is absurd, but it takes us to a different discussion. That is not the subject here.

Yaakov (2019-11-26)

Oh Rabbi, what will become of us? How long will you attribute rational thinking to legal and moral ideas? Values/morality/law are nothing but expressions of human desires, and therefore there is no reason to be surprised that people do not use their intellect when discussing these questions. What do you think this is, mathematics? There is no room for thinking here at all; it is nothing but a collection of human whims… which can also be contradictory…
(I exaggerated a bit on purpose… but basically I really do think so; after all, this whole column is only proof that I am right…)

Avi (2019-11-27)

1. In my opinion, something important has been forgotten here: in the present case, many feel that a conviction is not equivalent to proving a bad deed. The concern is that selective enforcement is taking place; that is, even if all the facts are correct, these are things that were done in the past and no one uttered a word.

2. Even if the investigations are pure and he really is a criminal, resignation will encourage future putsches against other public officials. That in itself will create (in the case of public officials) an incentive that will undermine the presumption of an equal chance for a lying plaintiff or defendant.

Yerushalmi (2019-11-27)

I do not understand the surprise at the correlation between the two questions in the opening. The moral question whether it is proper for a prime minister to serve under indictment can never be detached from the context. Does it not matter what benefit or harm this prime minister brings, and what the alternatives are? Would you remove Churchill in the middle of the Second World War because of illegal parking? This is not at all a ‘pure’ question for moral discussion supposedly on its own. An indictment is undoubtedly a serious drawback for a prime minister, and it must be weighed as part of the whole complex of his advantages and disadvantages. Perhaps your position draws nourishment from your negation of Bibi, and this column suffers from the same lack of self-awareness that it points to?

Michi (2019-11-27)

If you think a little more, you will understand it immediately. It is not very complicated. I am asking a principled question: can a prime minister under indictment serve? This is not a question about Bibi but a principled question.
I am not talking about people who claim that, true, a prime minister should not serve, but Bibi is like Churchill (I am of course offended on Churchill’s behalf). That is a different claim that I did not discuss.

Yerushalmi (2019-11-27)

The point is that this is not a principled question, unless you are asking jurists what the law says. It is a political question whose answer is necessarily situation-dependent.

Michi (2019-11-27)

First, it is advisable to add a reply at the end of the thread to which it belongs (click “Reply” after the first message in the thread and it will appear at the end.
As for your point itself, that is what I call a principled question. There is no point arguing about semantics. That is what I was dealing with.

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