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Q&A: The Torah’s Garbing in Physical Concepts

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The Torah’s Garbing in Physical Concepts

Question

Hello and blessings to the honored Rabbi, may he live long and well.
The Rabbi argued in the third lecture on “A Perspective on Torah and Torah Study” that the Torah is clothed for us in one form and for the angels in another form, and added that although in our version it says that an amora was brought up to heaven in order to decide the doubt, it could be that in the “Talmud” of the angels it says that the angel Gabriel was sent to decide it.
In my humble opinion, that does not seem plausible, because the whole idea of bringing the Torah down to earth is that we decide—“It is not in heaven”—and that applies not only to the way it is clothed for us, but also for the angels. That is the reason (of course, according to the Rabbi’s explanation) that the angels were alarmed when Moses came there, and perhaps this is also why they say, “What is one born of woman doing among us?!”—someone occupied with honoring father and mother and not with eternity within splendor. But they too admit that Moses came to take the decisions and the authority down to the world below. Moses, then, merely consoles them by saying that they will still be able to continue engaging in Torah.
If so, though, that is only slight consolation, because in the end Moses really does bring the Torah down to earth (through different garments) and takes the power of decision to us.
B. According to the Rabbi’s explanation, what was before Moses took the Torah? Did the angels decide the doubts that existed in their Torah?
C. A similar idea also appears in the holy Zohar, and it seems from there to support the Rabbi’s words. The Zohar adds that in the future to come we will merit seeing the soul of the Torah—that is, the essence of the Torah itself and not the garments. From this it is somewhat difficult for the Rabbi’s explanation of Kant, that one can never grasp the thing-in-itself but only its garments. And this is its language: “Whoever thinks that that garment is the Torah itself, and nothing else—let his spirit expire, and let him have no share in the World to Come. Therefore David said: ‘Open my eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of Your Torah’—that which is beneath the garment of the Torah.
Come and see: there is a garment that is visible to all, and those fools, when they see a person in a garment that appears beautiful to them, do not look any further. They think that the garment is the body, and they think that the body is the soul.”
By the way, if the Rabbi is planning to write a column on the subject, in my humble opinion it would be very worthwhile to bring the words of the Zohar.

Answer

That is exactly what I said in the lecture. The Torah came down to earth in two respects: garbing itself in human concepts, and the authority to decide was given to human beings. The discussion with the angels dealt only with the first aspect. According to your approach, that whole discussion is of course completely unintelligible. The column has already been written. I relied on it in the lecture. 379–381

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