Q&A: Understanding the World
Understanding the World
Question
With God's help,
Hello Rabbi,
I wanted to ask whether the Kantian view, which distinguishes between the perceiving person and reality as it is in itself, is a skeptical-solipsistic view? Or can we in fact learn things about reality as it is in itself, and not only about how it appears to us? After all, that learning itself is also done within our own conceptual system. So it is not clear how it can infer anything about the thing in itself.
B. I also wanted to ask: do we have the ability to learn the thing-in-itself, or only the properties of the thing? (As in the Rabbi's parable with Leibniz.) And do we have reason to assume that there is a connection between the properties of the thing and its essence?
For example, when we meet a friend with especially good character traits, is his "soul" actually more refined as well?
Or can a person love the essence of another person?
A joyful Passover.
Answer
I have already written several times that Kant's distinction between the thing-in-itself and its appearance to our eyes does not stem from some limitation. Perception, by definition, is bringing the thing into the perceiver's conceptual system. In reality itself there is no yellow color, or any other color. Colors exist only in our consciousness. The same is true of sounds and other sensory perceptions. The way we perceive the thing-in-itself is by describing it in terms of colors and sounds.
Therefore, your question whether there is a connection between the picture in our minds and reality itself is based on a mistake. In reality itself there is no color; it exists only in our consciousness. The connection is between the color that exists in us and a crystalline structure that exists in reality itself and produces the color. A person with good character traits is a good person. The question whether a person who behaves well is someone with good character traits is a different question. The traits are inside the person, inwardly, and it is hard for us to know anything about them directly. But that does not completely overlap with the distinction between the thing-in-itself and its appearance in our consciousness.
Discussion on Answer
There is a misunderstanding here of what I explained.
The concept of crystallinity also exists in the world in some form, and its image in us is described in our terminology. And again, it makes no sense to ask whether there is a connection between the two, because of course there is a connection: what is called crystallinity in the world produces in us an image that we call crystallinity. Think of a creature that is built differently, and from its perspective there are no visual images at all, only other senses. For it, the world would not be represented visually but in some other way, for example acoustically. Would there be no correspondence for it between reality itself and what is in its consciousness? Of course there would be correspondence. It would be just as right as we are. Both it and we describe the same picture in two different languages, like Hebrew and English. In both its case and ours there is correspondence between the world and the picture (audio or video) in consciousness.
Rabbi Michi, what do you mean by "the traits are inside the person, inwardly, and it is hard for us to know anything about them directly"? I think good character traits are simply behavior that arouses in us the feeling, "this is good" or "this is bad." What is there to understand about them?
Not at all. Traits are qualities and character within the soul itself. Behavior is at most an expression of the traits, and even that not always (since traits do not dictate behavior. We also have choice, and character does not determine behavior fully).
I have written about this here more than once, in resolving the difficulty raised by Rabbi Chaim Vital and Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook, who asked why the Torah does not command the refinement of character traits and went on at length in their own way to resolve the matter. And in my humble opinion I did not understand it, because the Torah does command it: to cleave to the traits of the Holy One, blessed be He, and this is a counted commandment according to all the major enumerators of the commandments.
In explaining the matter, I wrote that what we are commanded is to cleave to His modes of conduct in practice (attributes of action), because only that is revealed to us. But refining one's character traits does not refer to behavior, but to our inner character and inclinations. About that there באמת is no commandment. And this is not the place to elaborate.
Okay, I see that the way I phrased my words was not good.
What I mean to ask is: what is there to "understand" about traits in themselves? What is unclear about them? Isn't the criterion for whether a trait is good or bad that same inner feeling ("intuition") that trait A is bad and trait B is good?
You asked about what I said. I was talking about the ability to know someone's traits (diagnosis), not about understanding the meaning of the trait itself.
Ah, sorry. Then I didn't understand what you meant.
The point is that even the claim about the connection between the crystalline structure that exists in reality itself and produces the color, and the color itself, is also built on the concept of crystallinity and the concept of connection.
All these things as well have no basis in the reality around us. So the connection between our understanding and the reality around us is not clear.
(The example I gave of a person with good character traits referred to point B.)