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Q&A: The World to Come and the Messiah

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The World to Come and the Messiah

Question

We discussed your words today, and among other things we got into the question of whether, in Dr. Michael Abraham’s view, one must believe that there is a World to Come, or whether this was just the default assumption of the Sages in another case—“so that it may go well with you,” etc.—and whether there is a consensus among the Sages that there is a World to Come. As I understand it, this is just an invention of the Sages. One is not obligated to adopt it. Do you believe in this, and by what authority?

Does the fact that this is what is written in the words of the Sages about the World to Come mean that it comes from the Torah according to their interpretations, and one is obligated to believe it—and if one does not believe it, that is because it is false information—or did the Sages simply say this, according to how things appeared to them, but it is an invention? It does not fit with science.
There is no survival of the soul, no reincarnations, nothing. And I had thought that in your opinion there is no World to Come and no Messiah. We argued about your view. I am B.G. I phrased myself like a beginner, but I spread your books around… and discussions come up. So I said we should ask you.

Answer

B., hello.
It is hard to understand what you are writing. In the future, try to phrase things more clearly. I will answer based on what I understood from your words.
We are accustomed to the idea that the Sages have authority. We do not depart from the Talmud in the realm of Jewish law. One must discuss (investigate) the reason for this. One can see this as essential authority (they know everything and do not make mistakes) or formal authority (we accepted their authority upon ourselves). I tend toward the second possibility (and so too in Kesef Mishneh, chapter 2 of the Laws of Rebels). The Sages were human beings like you and me; they could make mistakes, and one can see in the Talmud that they indeed made use of that ability more than once. To the best of my understanding, this can happen both in Jewish law and in thought and in assessing reality, like with any person.
But a halakhic ruling in the Talmud is binding because that is the law. Exactly as the laws of the Knesset are binding—not because they are always correct, but because that is the law. We accepted upon ourselves the authority of the members of Knesset.
Now we must discuss the factual determinations of the Sages. Suppose they determined that the earth is shaped like a box (such that passing by its two sides is twilight in the evening and dawn in the morning). Someone who thinks they are always correct (they have divine inspiration, etc.) will presumably think this about factual determinations as well. But I do not belong to that camp, and therefore in principle they may have been mistaken. So what follows? My relation to their factual determinations is different from my relation to their halakhic rulings. The reason is that there is no formal authority—as opposed to essential authority—regarding determinations of fact. The problem is logical: authority in the realm of facts is an internal contradiction. After all, once I have concluded that the earth is round, one cannot require me to think that it is square because the Sages have formal authority and determined this. I might perhaps say the words “the earth is square” with my mouth, but in my heart I do not believe it unless they persuade me. Formal authority operates with respect to action and does not require persuasion. But regarding facts, without persuasion formal authority has no meaning. One can require me not to sort on the Sabbath or to cross the street only at a green light, even though I think there is no prohibition in this. But one cannot require me to think X when I actually think that X is not true (that is, when I think “not X”). That is simply a logically contradictory demand.
My claim is that the world of thought consists not of norms but of facts. Intellectual principles such as divine providence, the existence of a World to Come, and the like belong to the realm of facts (either there is providence or there is not; either there is a World to Come or there is not). Therefore here too, as with the shape of the earth, there is no place for formal authority. If I were convinced that the Sages had information that I do not have—that is, that they have essential authority—I would accept their words. But that would only be because I had become convinced that this is the truth. As long as that has not happened, formal authority is not defined with respect to facts.

Now to your questions. Since the statements of the Sages about the World to Come and other metaphysical claims seem speculative to me, and I have not been convinced that they have a clear source (a tradition from Sinai), I have no position regarding them. I do not know whether there is a World to Come or not. The fact that the Sages think so does not change my view, because there is no formal authority regarding facts, and I have not been convinced that they possess essential authority (that is, knowledge).

As for the survival of the soul, that דווקא seems plausible to me. As a dualist who believes in the existence of a soul or spirit, it seems plausible to me that this remains after the body dies. Where it goes at that stage, I do not know. But here too this is only my own reasoning, not because the Sages said so, and I cannot be certain of it.

Discussion on Answer

EA (2021-05-15)

So basically, how do you know that the claims of the Sages about the World to Come and such things are speculative? It seems to me that it is more reasonable to assume that they had a reliable source for what they said; otherwise they would not have said it. They certainly were not stupid, so if they said something, it is reasonable to assume they had a source, no? In other words, I understand (and agree) that they do not have formal authority, but why are you not convinced that they have essential authority on these matters? Is it not more reasonable to assume that they are right than that they are wrong?

Michi (2021-05-15)

Because I do not see a source for it. At most, it is an interpretation of the Tanakh or a homiletic teaching meant to increase fear of Heaven.

EA (2021-05-15)

You do not see one = you did not find one? But if someone shows you one, will you agree?

Michi (2021-05-15)

Of course.

EA (2021-05-15)

Wonderful, because that means you base your positions (that you sometimes do not believe the words of the Sages outside the halakhic realm) on the assumption that you did not find a source for them, but if after study and searching you do find one, then you will change your views?

Michi (2021-05-15)

I do not understand this discussion. What is the novelty here? Obviously, if there is a source from a prophet or from the Torah, I will accept it. My claim is that there are no sources, or that the interpretation of the sources is not necessary.

EA (2021-05-15)

I understand. I just still do not quite grasp the idea of relying on myself enough to say that I do not have to accept the Sages’ interpretation of sources from the Hebrew Bible, and that they said whatever they wanted, and if I want I can say something else.

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