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Why do we thank God for the Exodus from Egypt and in general?

שו"תWhy do we thank God for the Exodus from Egypt and in general?
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Why should we thank God for taking us out of Egypt, when He is the one who brought us down there?
[Apparently, one can ask this question about every confession about being saved from trouble. Four must confess, etc. After all, God, the Blessed One, also caused the trouble.
Should it ever be said that man, through his sins, caused disaster, and salvation is never through his rights but rather a 'gift' from God?]


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Indeed, an excellent question. Indeed, the Rabbi already wrote, "Blessed are you, Israel, before whom are you purifying yourselves and who is purifying you." If the perception is that trouble and salvation come to purify us, there is room for us to thank God for working with us (getting us into trouble and getting us out of it). If He did neither this nor that, then we would be cut off from Him. This is similar to the biblical comparison between Israel and Egypt (and the water at your feet is like a garden of vegetables), which shows that even though Israel has a water shortage, dependence on God means that He works with us and does not leave us to ourselves as in Egypt. That is why the Rabbi also laughed when he saw a fox coming out of the Holy of Holies and the others were crying. But all of this is in the ordinary perception. In my view, there is nothing to be thankful for because it is not God who does things in the world (at least today). The "salvation" is only a psychological opportunity to thank Him for the very creation and its laws within which we operate. —————————————————————————————— Asks: "It is not God who does things in the world (at least today)" What is meant? Does this align with the Ramban, 'Until we believe that all our words and events are all miracles'? And with 'I believe, etc.' that the Creator, the Almighty, has done and is doing and will do for all actions'? —————————————————————————————— Rabbi: Really doesn't sit well. Apparently I have no part in the Torah of Moses (as he writes about a perception like mine). I will explain in my book in the future.

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