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The Boundaries Between Sacred and Secular in the Library

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Be'er โ€“ 2010

Short reflections (relatively ๐Ÿ™‚ ) following the arrangement of the library in the study hall of 'Be'er'

Torah and Wisdom

From time immemorial, sages understood that there is value also in the study of fields that are not traditionally classified as 'Torah.' Maimonides already speaks about the path to the love of God, and writes as follows (Mishneh Torah, Foundations of the Torah 2:2):

And what is the way to love Him and fear Him? When a person contemplates His deeds and His wondrous, great creations and sees in them His wisdom, which has no measure and no end, he immediately loves, praises, glorifies, and longs with a great longing to know the great Name, as David said, 'My soul thirsts for God, for the living God.' And when he reflects on these very matters, he immediately recoils, is afraid, and knows that he is a small, lowly, dark creature standing with slight and meager understanding before the Perfect Knower, as David said, 'When I behold Your heavens, the work of Your fingers… what is man that You are mindful of him?' In light of these matters, I explain great principles from the work of the Master of the worlds so that they may serve as an opening for one who understands to love the Lord, as the Sages said regarding love: through this you come to recognize Him who spoke and the world came into being.

If so, it seems that the study of science leads to love of God and fear of Him. Certainly these two are important values in the world of Torah and Jewish law, and therefore it is clear that engaging in them cannot be called neglect of Torah study. Does that mean that they are 'Torah'? That is not at all clear.

For example, engaging in earning a livelihood also justifies not studying Torah; that is, one who is occupied with something for his livelihood is certainly not neglecting Torah study. On the other hand, it would be difficult to justify the claim that earning a livelihood is Torah study. Perhaps one can say on this basis that earning a livelihood is a commandment, but it is not plausible to claim that it is literally Torah study. The same applies to any engagement in a commandment (for Torah study is suspended for any commandment that cannot be deferred).

The conclusion is that even if we find that some occupation has value, and is even a commandment, that does not necessarily mean that it is Torah study (there are another 612 commandments in Jewish law besides the commandment of Torah study).

Admittedly, intellectual engagement in different fields of knowledge is a more plausible candidate (than earning a livelihood) to be included within the term 'Torah study,' but as we have seen, this does not necessarily follow from the words of Maimonides.

And indeed, the Sages themselves see great value in wisdom, and even esteem those who engage in it, and yet they are careful to distinguish between Torah and wisdom. Their well-known statement is (in Eikhah Rabbah, Buber ed., parashah 2):

'Her king and her princes are among the nations; there is no Torah.' If someone tells you, 'There is wisdom among the nations,' believe him, as it says, 'I will destroy the wise men of Edom, and understanding from Mount Esau' (Obadiah 1:8). If he tells you, 'There is Torah among the nations,' do not believe him, as it is written: 'Her king and her princes are among the nations; there is no Torah.'

These ideas find expression even in Jewish law. For we learned (Berakhot 58a):

The Rabbis taught: One who sees the sages of Israel says, 'Blessed is He who has apportioned of His wisdom to those who fear Him'; [upon seeing] sages of the nations of the world, he says, 'Blessed is He who has given of His wisdom to flesh and blood.'

That is, one who sees a sage from among the nations recites a blessing over him, seeing this as a gift from the wisdom of the Holy One, blessed be He, to flesh and blood. This law is also brought as normative law in the Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 224:6-7, although today for some reason people are not careful about it (see a lecture from 5761 on the 'Yeshiva' website on the internet, by Rabbi Melamed: 'Seeing unusual people and creatures').

If so, the conclusion apparently is that other wisdoms do indeed have value, and they are even part of the wisdom of the Holy One, blessed be He, and yet they are not Torah. This is the distinction between 'wisdom' and 'Torah.'

There are interesting halakhic disputes among the decisors regarding the law of the blessing over a Jewish sage whose wisdom is in other disciplines (a non-Jewish sage who is wise in Torah wisdom apparently does not exist according to the Sages, and at the very least there is a prohibition against teaching Torah to a gentile, so clearly no blessing was instituted for that). Some maintain that one should not recite any blessing over him at all (see Responsa Mishneh Halakhot, vol. 15, sec. 74; and see there all the curses and insults that he heaps upon the heads of Jews who waste their time on nonsense like physics and the like, Heaven preserve us. And by contrast, see Pahad Yitzhak on Hanukkah, essay 9, which says this too but for other reasons, and without curses), some maintain that one should recite over him the blessing recited over non-Jews (Gedulat Elisha, 224:8), and some maintain that one recites over him exactly the blessing recited over a sage in Torah wisdom (Responsa Hitorerut LiTeshuvah, I, 60; and Responsa Aholekh BaAmitekha 14:1).

It follows, then, that the dispute over how to relate to external wisdoms finds an interesting halakhic expression.

Is there really a difference?

At this point we can add that Maimonides himself, over the course of about three chapters in Foundations of the Torah, immediately after the above introduction (about the path to the love and fear of the Holy One, blessed be He), details at great length several principles of science (of his time, and he even mixes physics and metaphysics there), and apparently he sees this as actual chapters of Torah, and not merely as means to the love of God.

And at the end of those chapters he writes the following (Foundations of the Torah 4:10-13):

10. All these matters that we have discussed in this context are but a drop in the bucket, and they are deep matters; but they are not like the depth of the first and second chapters. The explanation of all these matters in the third and fourth chapters is what is called the Account of Creation, and thus the early Sages commanded that these matters not be expounded in public; rather, these matters are conveyed and taught to one person.

11. And what is the difference between the Account of the Chariot and the Account of Creation? The Account of the Chariot may not be expounded even to one person unless he is wise and understands on his own; one transmits to him only the chapter headings. But the Account of Creation is taught to an individual even if he does not understand it on his own, and one informs him of everything he can know of these matters. And why is it not taught to the many? Because not every person has a sufficiently broad mind to grasp the explanation and clarification of all these matters properly.

12. When a person contemplates these matters and knows all created beings, from angel and sphere to human being and the like, and sees the wisdom of the Holy One, blessed be He, in all formed things and all creatures, he increases in love for God; his soul thirsts and his flesh yearns to love the Blessed One. He fears and trembles at his own lowliness, poverty, and insignificance when he compares himself to one of the great holy bodies, all the more so to one of the pure forms separated from matter altogether, and he finds himself to be like an empty vessel, full of shame and disgrace, empty and lacking.

13. The subjects of these four chapters within these five commandments are what the early Sages called Pardes, as they said: 'Four entered Pardes.' And although they were the great ones of Israel and great sages, not all of them had the capacity to know and grasp all these matters properly. And I say that it is not fitting to stroll in Pardes except for one whose belly is filled with bread and meat; and 'bread and meat' is to know what is forbidden and permitted and the like among the other commandments. And although the Sages called these things a 'small thing,' for the Sages said, 'A great thing is the Account of the Chariot, and a small thing is the dialectics of Abaye and Rava,' nevertheless they are fit to be learned first, for they settle a person's mind at the outset. Moreover, they are the great good that the Holy One, blessed be He, bestowed for the ordering of this world, in order to inherit the life of the world to come, and it is possible for all to know them, small and great, man and woman, broad-hearted and narrow-hearted alike.

The conclusion is that Maimonides sees these subjects as foundations of the Torah, and in his view they are more important than the study of Torah in its classical sense (Jewish law and Talmudic discussions). Some understood from his introduction to his Mishneh Torah that the whole purpose of this composition was also to shorten the way for those who engage in Jewish law, so that they could learn the 'classical' Torah (=Jewish law) quickly, and not be prevented from engaging in the things that are truly important. This conclusion, however, is not necessary, and this is not the place to elaborate.

Maimonides' source is in the Talmud (Sukkah 28a and parallels), which says:

They said of Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai that he left untouched neither Scripture nor Mishnah, Talmud, laws and aggadot, the fine points of the Torah and the fine points of the Scribes, a fortiori arguments and verbal analogies, astronomical cycles and numerical interpretations, the speech of the ministering angels, the speech of demons, the speech of palm trees, the parables of launderers, the parables of foxes, a great matter and a small matter. A great matterโ€”the Account of the Chariot; a small matterโ€”the dialectics of Abaye and Rava. To fulfill what is said in Proverbs 8: 'That I may cause those who love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasuries.'

That is, the Account of the Chariot is the great matter, and Jewish law (the dialectics of Abaye and Rava, Torah in its 'classical' sense) is the small matter. And upon this Maimonides offers his surprising interpretation that the Account of Creation is physics and the Account of the Chariot is metaphysics.

And in the introduction to his Guide of the Perplexed, Maimonides goes even further and determines with greater precision:

We have already explained in our Talmudic works certain principles of this subject and drawn attention to many matters, and we mentioned there that the Account of Creation is natural science, and the Account of the Chariot is divine science. We also explained their saying, 'Nor [may one expound] the Chariot to one individual unless he is wise and understands on his own; one transmits to him only the chapter headings.' Accordingly, do not ask of me here anything beyond chapter headings. And even those headings are not arranged in this treatise in order, one after another; rather, they are scattered and mixed with other matters that we seek to explain, for my intention is that the truths should flash forth from it and then again be hidden, so that you will not oppose the divine intention (which one ought not oppose), which has made the truths pertaining to the apprehension of Him hidden from the multitude, as it says: 'The secret of the Lord is with those who fear Him.' And know that natural matters too should not be revealed by teaching even some of their principles in a clear way as they truly are. You already know the saying of the Sages, 'Nor [may one expound] the Account of Creation before two.' If someone were to explain all those matters in a book, it would be as though he had expounded them to thousands of people. Therefore these matters too were presented in the books of prophecy through parables, and the Sages spoke of them in riddles and parables, following the way of the sacred books, because these matters have a great affinity with divine wisdom and they too are among the secrets of divine wisdom. And do not think that those tremendous secrets are known by any of us to their ultimate end and limitโ€”not so. Rather, at times the truth flashes before us so that we think it is day, and afterwards nature and habit conceal it from us, until we return to a dark night close to what we were at first, and we become like one upon whom lightning flashes again and again while he is in the thick darkness of night.

That is, Maimonides interprets 'the Account of Creation' as physics (= natural science), and 'the Account of the Chariot' as metaphysics (= divine science).[1]

Where, then, does the line between Torah and wisdom pass? If indeed every science is Torah, and perhaps even on a higher level than Torah in its classical sense, then where is the line? What is wisdom that is not Torah? I will try here to offer a suggestion that occurred to me. I have no proofs for it, but I have a strong feeling that it is correct.

Introduction to the proposal

The source of the proposal presented below is the feeling that there is a clear Torah significance to the study of philosophy. Moreover, many books of Jewish thought are nothing but philosophy expressed in Torah language and with Torah tools (as we saw above in Maimonides). Regarding the worn-out question whether there is such a thing as 'Jewish philosophy,' I tend to think that there is not. There is no philosophy that is painted in one specific color or another (of course there is 'the philosophy of x,' which defines different fields of discussion, depending on what one inserts in place of x). There is correct philosophy and incorrect philosophy. Incorrect philosophy, even if it is Jewish, is incorrect. And correct philosophy, even if it is not Jewish, is still the correct philosophy. Therefore 'Jewish philosophy' is a synonym for philosophy (= mine).

Are books of thought, such as Guide of the Perplexed or the Kuzari, which present the thought of Jewish sages, 'Torah' in its full sense? That seems problematic to me. And again, a feeling: these books seem to express positions that took shape in the minds of their authors, and not an interpretation of the Torah that we received by tradition from Sinai. Some of them do not even refer to sources, but even when they do, the sources are more illustration than actual source (see the Maharal). But not everything that takes shape in the mind of a Jewish sage is Torah. Are the medical books of Maimonides Torah? Presumably not. Are the remedies that appear in the Talmud itself Torah? Presumably that too is not the case (some of them, apparently, are not correct at all).

The subject of these books is philosophy. The tools are human-philosophical tools (which were often learned and drawn from gentiles). The fact that the author is a Torah scholar is no guarantee that the composition is 'Torah.' If so, why is an important philosophical book, such as Critique of Pure Reason (= by Immanuel Kant), not a Torah book? What is the difference between it and Orot HaKodesh, or Guide of the Perplexed? Perhaps the author's intention (whether he intended it for the sake of the service of God and the clarification of faith, or simply for the sake of wisdom). But why should it matter to the reader for what intention the book was composed? Seemingly what matters is the content, and in that respect, as noted, there appears to be no essential difference. Is Aristotle, who serves as the basis for a considerable portion of the Guide, holier than Kant? So why does one who makes use of Kantian philosophy create less 'Torah' than one who deals in Aristotelian physics and metaphysics (which is probably also less correct. At least in the scientific realm, what Maimonides calls 'the Account of Creation'โ€”on that, no one disagrees)?

A proposal: the distinction between Torah as object (heftza) and Torah as subject (gavra)

There is a feeling that the dialectics of Abaye and Rava may perhaps be a small matter, but they are a 'heftza of Torah.' The meaning is that whoever studies them is studying Torah that was given at Sinai. I do not mean to claim that everything that appears in Ketzot HaChoshen, or in the novellae of Rashba, was given to Moses at Sinai. But these books were composed out of a sense that they are books of interpretation. The medieval authorities (Rishonim) and later authorities (Acharonim) who deal with Jewish law do so out of a sense of deference toward the material they study, and even when they create an original and novel interpretation, this is done out of a deep sense that this is the interpretation of the word of God, that this is what is written in the Torah before us, or in the Oral Torah that we received by tradition. By contrast, books of thought do not awaken such a feeling in me. There one finds thoughtโ€”original or less original, intelligent or less intelligent, correct or less correctโ€”but without the continuity required for the matter to be considered a continuation of the Torah that we received at Sinai. It is a new creation, in the sense of creation ex nihilo.[2]

I know of two stories about great Jewish sages who, in a time of distress, vowed not to engage in aggadic literature, because engagement in it involves speculation, and generally people do not aim at the truth. This is how the author of the Penei Yehoshua describes it in his introduction, and if I remember correctly I heard the same also about the prodigy of Meitzhit.

If so, there are things to which the title 'Torah' is given because they reflect the form of the Torah that is in our hands today. This is, of course, a completely different form from the one it had when it was given, but it is still the most faithful incarnation of the Torah that was given there, within our present conceptual and intellectual framework. That is what characterizes Torah in its classical sense. In conceptual Talmudic terms, one may say that this is 'Torah as heftza,' that is, Torah in an objective sense, independent of worldview, opinions, and methods of study. All the incarnations of the Torah that we received at Sinai are Torah. If a person studies these books, even if he does not agree with their way of thinking, he is engaged in Torah. There is certainly no neglect of Torah study here.

By contrast, there are other parts of Torah that do not constitute a faithful incarnation of the Torah that we received. They were not produced with the aim of interpreting that Torah; rather, they express chiefly the original creativity of great people in different periods. There is divine revelation there, one that comes through human beings (see, for example, in the book by Shalom Rosenberg, Lo BaShamayim Hi, on continuing revelation). In conceptual Talmudic terms, one may say that this is 'Torah as gavra' and not 'as heftza'; that is, Torah in a subjective sense. For those people who created it, and for those learners who connect to those works, this is Torah. But if there is someone who does not connect to them, reading them is a waste of time (or neglect of Torah study).

And what about importance?

Perhaps this is the reason (beyond the known technical reasons) that the yeshiva world focuses on the study of Torah in its classical sense. This despite the fact that everyone knows the words of Maimonides cited above. The reason is that there is full confidence there that study of this kind is Torah study and not neglect of Torah study. Moreover, in these areas one can set classes that suit everyone, since even someone for whom the specific method of study in that particular yeshiva does not speak, is still learning something of value; he is engaged in Torah.

Does this mean that the study of fields of thought is less important? Absolutely not. Rather, its value is subjective. For those who study these fields and are enriched and built by them, these are the 'great matter,' whereas the dialectics of Abaye and Rava are the 'small matter.' But for one who is not built by this study, there is neglect of Torah study here, and for him this is not Torah at all. Exactly as we said: Torah in the subjective sense.

Implications: back to the library

Up to this point I have continued the initial line of thought, which began from philosophy and its Torah importance. But what about literature, or other fields of knowledge that can build a Jewish-Torah personality? It seems to me that the same is true with respect to these works as well. Any field of knowledge can be included within the subjective concept of Torah (= 'Torah as gavra'), so long as the learner is indeed built by it, and his Jewish outlook (see 'Jewish philosophy') is enriched by it. But for others there is no Torah here.

And what about place in the library? Should one separate secular books from sacred books, or perhaps specifically not? In my library they are placed intermixed (under the influence of a visit to Rabbi Lichtenstein in Jerusalem). But perhaps in a public library, such as a yeshiva, there is room for such a separation. In a public place, one should place on the Torah shelf (= the Jewish bookshelf) books that are 'Torah' for all the learners in that place. In a private library, Torah can be defined subjectively, but in a public library it appears in the objective sense. There one should place only books that are 'Torah as heftza.'

Let me repeat that, in my humble opinion, both Orot HaKodesh and Guide of the Perplexed (at least significant parts of it) do not belong there (and that indeed is the practice in the more 'old-fashioned' yeshivot). Exactly like Critique of Pure Reason and the like.

And what about bringing such books into filthy places (= toilets and bathhouses)? One should not bring 'Torah' there, and not study Torah there. That is certainly true with respect to Ketzot HaChoshen and the novellae of Rashba. Is there, in this regard, room to distinguish between a Jewish book of thought and a philosophy book? My personal feeling is that there is, but I have no justification.

"Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent"… (the end of Wittgenstein's Tractatus).

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[1] And see also there Part I, ch. 17; Part II, ch. 2, chs. 29-30, and the introduction to Part III; and likewise Part III, chs. 13 and 29. Also in Maimonides' introduction to the Mishnah, under the heading 'The fourth: expositions,' and elsewhere.

[2] Of course, there are different levels, and the picture is not binary (yes or no). I am describing two poles in order to sharpen the argument. One may then try to place each work on the axis between the Torah given to us at Sinai and wholly original human creation.

Discussion

Menachem (2017-01-09)

Fortunate are you, Rabbi Abraham. There is no doubt that the Torah deals with profound matters; see one example of this, and it could not be otherwise.
It is written:
โ€œIn the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.โ€
See, this verse comes to 2701 in standard gematria, exactly.
Its factors are: 37โ€ข73
37 is the 12th prime โ€” 73 is the 21st prime.
Notice how they correspond to one another: 73 multiplied by its reverse, and also the 12th prime and its reverse, the 21st prime. The root of 441, truth, is 21.
And its factors are 3โ€ข3โ€ข7โ€ข7.
Also, 2701 is the triangular number of 73.
In English: triangular number of 73.
That means the sum of all the numbers from 1 to 73.
By the way, 73 and 37 are both also called star numbers in English, numbers that form a Star of David by means of the point-pattern of two triangles entering one another.
The hardest and most important commandment in the Torah is guarding the covenant (meaning not to waste the seed, and this constitutes control), and it is no coincidence that โ€œYou shall not commit adulteryโ€ is the 7th commandment, which symbolizes truth as I explained.
Jacob is 182; his attribute is truth; Jacob in gematria is 7โ€ข26.
It is not easy to guard the covenant, even when a person sees the truth, even absolute truth. A person must always be fearful; and see Solomon: โ€œDo not give your strength to women,โ€ warning against adultery.
Adultery is the most terrible thing in the Torah, and I will show this.
The covenant โ€” standard gematria:
Heh = 5, Bet = 2, Resh = 200, Yod = 10, Tav = 400. Total in standard gematria: 617.
Ordinal gematria value โ€” Heh 5, Bet 2, Resh 20, Yod 10, Tav 22. Total 59.
Together, 59+617 equals 676, and this is with respect to the threshold, the complete mathematical whole.
676 is 26 squared; its root is 26. That is the complete root in the Torah. Another thing: 617 is the 113th prime โ€” in English it's said the prime 113,
59 is the 17th prime.
And together, the 17th prime and the 113th prime
come to 130, which is Sinai in gematria.
The Torah is indeed from Heaven, and it is perfect with mathematical wonders, and it is circular; but beyond truths, a person has free choice, fear of Heaven, absolutely.
Another thing: the sum of the first verse in the Torah and the last one together:
2701 plus the last, 2578,
5279 exactly. All 75 letters total 5279.
5279 is exactly the 700th prime, and not for nothing is the commandment โ€œYou shall not commit adulteryโ€ the most important commandment in reality; and again, the point is not to be a monk but to live in holiness and use the intellect. This is the sin of the Tree of Knowledge, among other things, sex.
The Torah contains very deep and perfect secrets and closes circles in a perfect way; but one can classify, though it is not easy, what is impure and what is pure, not for nothing.
50 gates of holiness corresponding to 50 of impurity.

A person has an evil inclination, even fear; I am not talking about miracles, I am talking about perfect mathematics in an all-encompassing way with good complements. Still, one may say maybe it is not from Heaven, based on the insights, but it does not seem at all that the Torah is philosophy; it is written:

In Psalms it is written regarding whom providence is upon:
โ€œBecause he has set his desire upon Me, therefore I will deliver him; I will set him on high, because he has known My name.โ€
There are 28 letters in this verse, like in the Torah.
Let us look at the 10 middle letters: paltahu asagveh.
These 10 letters are found exactly in the center of the verse, from the 10th letter to the 19th letter.
And now their sum is 441 in standard gematria.
Now pay close attention, mathematicians, or those who checked this.
All the numbers from 10โ€“19 sum to 145.
All the prime numbers from the 10th prime, 29, to the 19th prime, 67 (thus: 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67)
sum to 468, which also equals 18โ€ข26.
Together, the sum of the numbers from 10โ€“19 and the sum of the primes from the 10th to the 19th, as I detailed,
come to 613. He knew the Torah and even fulfilled it in all the Pardes.
โ€œClose to the brokenhearted.โ€
โ€œClose to all who call upon Him, if they call in truthโ€ (โ€œin truthโ€ = 443).
The 86th prime.

There is harlotry, which is 68, and there is its opposite, wisdom.
There is an apikorus; on one side understanding, and on the other side harlotry.
Apikorus = 463 = understanding = harlotry.
He certainly has understanding, but also harlotry; he invalidates the existing order of reality because of lust for adultery.

Menachem (2017-01-11)

Abstract mathematics is very connected to the Torah on a deep level.
And one who does not know, does not know โ€” there is no such thing; if the Torah is from Heaven it must be intellectual and arranged in a perfect and circular way.
I gave a bit of an explanation in outline, and whoever understands will understand.
Today a person has tools to investigate the Torah much better
than in the past. Tools:
Prime numbers are within reach up to 8 digits on the internet,
and even more; in addition there are written data too.
The Torah is something exceptional in mathematics; I am not saying this for nothing.
From the mouth of the Almighty Moses received the Torah.
And therefore โ€œfrom the mouth of the Almightyโ€
in gematria is 351, which is the triangular number of 26.
Whoever thinks that the explicit number is just like that โ€” absolutely not by chance.
And also 314 and โ€” in gematria โ€” this is really not nonsense, really.
Of course gematria that is not serious is nonsense.
But in the context of triangular numbers, and also prime numbers,
the Torah contains explosions, truly.
The Bible is a very, very deep book, and not for nothing, and whoever thinks this is
things without content only because he did not bother to examine it
in depth.
In my opinion the Torah is from Heaven, and it must contain infinite perfection,
and I have already seen quite a bit.

Michi (2017-02-21)

I
Hello, you mention here the introduction to the Pnei Yehoshua, and I cannot find it. Is this a mistake on your part, or did you mean another source? Could you point it out?
4 months ago

Michi
No. I meant the introduction to the Pnei Yehoshua. It appears there:

โ€œOne of them is this: I undertook as an obligation upon myself and vowed with a binding vow at the time of my distress, on the day of the burning wrath of the Lord, Tuesday, the 3rd of Kislev, in the year 463 according to the minor reckoning, in the holy community of Lvov. I was at ease in my home and flourishing in my hall, with friends and students listening to my voice, when suddenly the city was overturned into a mound in a moment. No hands had touched it, and we heard no cry of terror, only the sound of the blaze breaking out in division. And the sight of the great blazing fire that rose in our palaces and windows through several large and terrible barrels full of powder for burning, until the houses collapsed from their storehouses โ€” several great and fortified houses, a wall up to the heavens, were brought low to the dust, laid bare to the foundation. And some thirty-six holy Jewish souls were killed. And among the slain also were the lodgers of my house: my first wife, of blessed memory, and her mother and her motherโ€™s father, until the distress also reached my daughter, my little girl, the only one of her mother, and dearer to me than anything.
And I too was among those fallen, from a lofty roof to a deep pit, and I came into the depths of the mire, into the lowest earth, literally as within a furnace, because of the heavy burden of the rolling heaps that fell upon me, and the beams of our house more than the beams of an olive press. They did not let me recover my spirit; my hands and limbs were not under my control. I said: I am cut off in the midst of my days; I shall go, I am deprived of the rest of my years; I shall no longer see man among the inhabitants of the world. And I feared lest my house become my grave, for those stoned and burned, slain and strangled โ€” all four were upon me at once, and the law of the four death penalties had not ceased from me.
Moreover, the beams of the house, its furniture, its wood and its stones, seemed to me like complete witnesses. I said: perhaps they will strike me, so that the hand of the witnesses will be first upon me to kill me. Yet in the compassion of the Lord upon me, God did not permit evil to be done to me, and after about a third or a quarter of an hour, when the raging noise of the collapse quieted and ceased, though still the sound of the rushing uproar of thousands and tens of thousands stormed on, trampling on the roof, and the earth split at their sound โ€” and many whom they killed by their trampling more than at first, although this was unavoidable, since their intention was to save and clear the heap โ€” in the end I had already passed from definite mortal danger into doubt.
Then I said, while I was still under the heap: if God will be with me and bring me out from this place in peace, and build for me a faithful house and enlarge my border with students, I will not refrain from the walls of the study hall, and from diligence at the doors of inquiry into the sugya of the Talmud and the decisors, and from lodging in the depth of halakhah, even many nights on one matter. In this my soul desired to follow in the footsteps of my fathers โ€” namely my motherโ€™s grandfather, the renowned gaon, Rabbi Yehoshua, of blessed memory, whose name is within me, the head of the rabbinical court and rosh yeshiva of the holy community of Krakow, who composed the book Mageni Shlomo to resolve the questions of Tosafot on Rashi, and to explain what Tosafot leave as difficult. At that time we had not yet merited the light of that book, but from what our fathers told us, and from hearsay, my soul desired that I too should walk in his ways.
Before I had finished speaking these things to my heart, the Lord heard the voice of my affliction and gave me passage between the pillars โ€” something like an actual path was made for me โ€” and I went out in peace without injury, and no wound was in me. Then I knew faithfully that this thing was from the Lord, in a place where there is no rescuer. And from then on I took these things to heart, that the essence of my study should be halakhah in the sugyot of the Talmud and the decisors, and that I should not put into writing anything in homiletics or other studies that are distant from the center of true learning, except on rare occasions. Only whenever some matter was newly clarified to me in a sugya of the Gemara or in Rashi and Tosafot, and the matter seemed to me to incline toward the path of true learning according to the way of our predecessors and teachers โ€” that I would choose and bring near to write in the book of records.โ€
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Echad (2017-02-21)

Philosophy = the house of God

Tzach Houri (2021-03-11)

Hello and blessings, Rabbi Michael.
More power to you for these remarks. This is an issue that has been troubling me for quite some time, and perhaps I will yet ask your opinion on other questions branching out from it.
In any case, I wanted to ask a few questions about what was written, and with your permission I will focus, by way of example, on the comparison you made between the Critique of Reason and Orot HaKodesh:
First, you write at the beginning that the intention of the author of the work does not matter, even though, in your view, the consciousness of one continuing the Oral Torah does matter and is part of the criterion for entering the โ€œholy wingโ€ in the public library.
Even if we give up on intention, do you not assign importance to knowing the โ€œmaster of the teaching,โ€ not only in the technical sense of the events of his life and the like (which in my humble opinion also has great importance), but whether he saw himself as continuing the covenant of Israel, etc.? In this context, it is impossible to compare Rav Kook to Kant, even in the thinner sense that Rav Kook is a faithful member of the covenant and committed to halakhah, and Kant is not.
Second, one cannot ignore the raw material Rav Kook uses as opposed to Kantโ€™s raw material (again, or that of any other thinker who does not deal with Torah subjects of the various kinds). The main raw material, essentially and quantitatively, is from the bookshelf of Jewish holy books.
In addition, I am sure that Rav Kook saw himself as continuing the path of some of the kabbalists when writing Orot HaKodesh, even if he innovated quite a few things in his writings (just as another Torah scholar will innovate in halakhah and sometimes even take things out of their plain meaning).

I would be happy to hear your response.

Michi (2021-03-11)

Hello.
Knowing the master of the teaching may have value, but that is not what determines whether something is Torah. The persona is not the criterion.
The raw material is also not important here, since one can do all sorts of things with that raw material. Christians deal a great deal with the Bible, and some of them also with the Talmud.
In my book No Man Rules the Spirit I expanded greatly on this matter.
In my view, Torah is only what is created as interpretation of what was received at Sinai. A personโ€™s own reasoning, in and of itself, is not Torah. Thought such as Rav Kookโ€™s, so long as it is not dealing with halakhah, has nothing essentially Jewish or Torah-based in it. One could write those same things in any gentileโ€™s book. These are insights that seemed to him correct and useful, and as such perhaps they have value. But Torah it is not.
There have been many discussions here on the site about all this, and there is detail in my aforementioned book, so I do not want to elaborate and reopen it again.

EA (2021-08-20)

โ€œAs for this, is there room to distinguish between a book of Jewish thought and a book of philosophy? My personal feeling is that there is,โ€ isnโ€™t there a mistake here? It should have said, โ€œMy personal feeling is that there isnโ€™t,โ€ meaning that there is no distinction between books of Jewish thought and books of philosophy, and both are permitted to be brought into the bathroom, no?

Michi (2021-08-20)

The feeling is that there is, only I do not see any justification for it.

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