Rabbi Michael Abraham: Supports the surrogacy law; opposes the law barring same-sex marriage; criticizes the Ministry of Health warning
Discussion
They have a medical problem in every respect. They cannot reproduce with a female partner. How is that different from any other treatment? And it isn't your wallet but all of ours, including theirs. By the way, when it's hard to live with some defect, plastic treatments are indeed funded too.
The arrogance with which you write does not make your stupid arguments worthwhile.
That is not an inability!
A woman with problems in her womb cannot; they can, and do (dozens every year). Public agreement to a financial expenditure exists only when there is no alternative and there is literally no ability, not when a lifestyle dictated it.
As for the 'wallet'—you brushed that aside with nonsense.
As for the arrogance—I can't see where I was arrogant? All I argued was that the public should not have to finance everyone whose lifestyle has caused him distress (the same applies to Haredim who don't work, to settlers who chose to live in the middle of nowhere, etc.); I wrote neither out of hatred nor out of revulsion (I have no problem with them. I support equal rights for this ציבור, but giving them something I wouldn't give any other group is an injustice).
As for the stupidity—I understand the need for name-calling in light of the claim "They have a medical problem in every respect. They cannot reproduce with a female partner." Indeed, that's quite a shallow answer, so only a good insult could make it substantive.
I judge you favorably and assume you're jealous of the prevailing attitude toward the 'beautiful-souls'. I very much hope the nobleman likes your dancing.
I'm still waiting for a substantive answer and not a 'beautiful-souls' one (if such a thing exists).
I read in some post of yours that you're a capitalist. No, you're not!
The claim you made—"It isn't your wallet but all of ours, including theirs"—is also made by the railway workers' committee, the Teachers' Union, the employees of the Broadcasting Authority, and every group that wants to celebrate at the public trough.
In short, I'm not sure you understand what capitalism is.
But hey, true, you're not a capitalist, but at least with views like these you could be a great Histadrut chairman. The dancing chairman… congratulations.
But don't worry, we'll give you conversion therapy and do a nose job on you….(Arrogant, did we already say?)
On another page of the site you already announced that you wouldn't want to go with me on a performance tour of nursing homes.
But where—in God's name (who left the country…)—did you announce that you wouldn't answer me??
With blessings, your partner—in the former future—in Tzemed Re'im.
Why do you support surrogacy??
I can barely accept the idea that we should help a woman who has a *medical problem* bring a child into the world. But why in God's name should I have to finance someone with no medical problem whatsoever??
What's the next stage? Shall we finance a bachelor who doesn't feel like getting married but really feels like changing diapers??
And if the issue is that it's really, really hard for them, then my heart is with them but not my wallet…
Maybe we should also start funding plastic surgery—after all, it's hard to live with a deformed nose or ugliness of any kind??
Needless to say, I have no problem if they act as they have until now and from their own pockets find a woman who will agree to carry their child in her womb (even if she is Israeli), but it's hard for me to turn from a human being into an ATM (maybe I'll undergo conversion therapy and that will make it easier for me….)