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Q&A: Why Does the Watchmaker Proof Still Work?

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Why Does the Watchmaker Proof Still Work?

Question

I’ve heard you many times present the watchmaker argument as evidence for the existence of God. I’m trying to understand the argument in the modern world.
Evolution can explain why the universe appears so organized without any need for God, as you noted in the discussion in “Head-to-Head.” Still, you argued that the laws that created evolution (the laws of logic, for example) can prove God’s existence, because they point to some kind of order.
This argument seems a bit strange to me. Why should the laws of logic point to order? Isn’t it possible that any set of laws would have led to some kind of existence? The assumption in the argument is that there is order rather than chaos, and that proves someone imposed order. But when talking about the laws of logic, it seems strange to make claims about what would have happened had they not existed, since that is a reality we can’t examine. (That is, we can say that if a person did not have the ability to sweat, he would not be able to regulate his body during exertion and therefore would have gone extinct, because we can empirically test what would happen if reality were different. Not so for the laws of logic. Can we test what reality would look like with different laws? Or without laws? Maybe there would be a better universe? Maybe not.)

Answer

The laws under discussion are not the laws of logic. The laws of logic are not laws at all, but necessary relations between propositions. We are talking about the laws of physics and biology. And we certainly can ask why they are the way they are. They could have been different. As for the laws of logic, there is indeed no meaning to the question of what would happen if they were different, because they cannot be different.

Discussion on Answer

Tzemach (2024-08-13)

What makes them different from the laws of physics, etc.?

Michi (2024-08-13)

Search the site for “the laws of logic.” Also in the article on contradictions and quantum theory.

Michi (2024-08-13)

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Yedidya Kfir (2024-08-14)

Still, my question is why you claim there is order in the laws of physics.
Even if there seems to be order, isn’t that just our perception?
And what proves that this is order rather than chaos?

Michi (2024-08-14)

These laws produce a very complex and coordinated world, and the overwhelming majority of systems of laws you might randomly generate would not do that. There are objective mathematical measures of complexity (entropy).

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