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Bat Kol in the story 'Akhnai's Oven'

שו"תBat Kol in the story 'Akhnai's Oven'
שאל לפני 8 שנים

peace,
I wanted to ask, I saw that you wrote in the article Kol Hayka Damerinan 'Bo Biom ' about the great change that occurred in the perception of the way of learning Torah. Between the conservative perception of transmitting the Masorah through a "hollow tube" and the transformation that occurred later in the way of learning Torah – in the sense of "in his Torah he will ponder."
You mentioned in the above article and in the article referring to igod videos the legend of Akhnai's oven, which serves to illustrate this idea. The revolution that took place in the path of Torah study. Between the sages of Israel and Rabbi Yehoshua, and Rabbi Eliezer, who maintained the conservative embers. Therefore, all the evidence that Rabbi Eliezer brought was irrelevant to the case, and even the daughter of Kol, who said, "What do you have with Eliezer, my son, who followed his example everywhere?"
And as you said there:

"[3] It is interesting to note that Bat Kol did not say that she followed the R.A., but that he was great in Torah. She did not express a direct position regarding the problem of the oven. This is in addition to all the other mystical evidence that the R.A. brought."

1. But I don't understand how you can put these things into the voicemail??
After all, Bat Kol is the one who explicitly said what you have with "Eliezer, my son, whose halakha is like him everywhere. " We see from this that Shabbat Kol explicitly claims that even in the case of Didan, the halakha was like him (as it is everywhere).
2. If we see and encounter all this evidence of changes in the laws of nature, up to an explicit statement of God's will through the voice of God, how can we claim that the correct way is the renewed way? As it is said, " What is it to you?! etc." Eliezer Benny "The law is like it everywhere "
So it is not at all clear how one can even understand the opposite in the content of the legend. After all, this story explicitly teaches that the will of God is with Rabbi Eliezer and not at all with Rabbi Yehoshua.
In the above articles, it did not seem that you touched on these points. Rather, you only described the revolution that took place and why it is right for us on a long-term pragmatic level. But not why it is also right towards the will of God.
 
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
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אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
And it's worth it here too:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
And it's worth it here too:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
And it's worth it here too:
מחירה של הסובלנות

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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
And it's worth it here too:
מחירה של הסובלנות

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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
And it's worth it here too:
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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
And it's worth it here too:
מחירה של הסובלנות

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מיכי צוות ענה לפני 8 שנים
1. The opposite. The law is like him everywhere, this is a statement about the person and not about the substance of the matter. Otherwise, it should have said that the law is like him in this case (and it is also desirable to provide a reason). 2. This legend is brought up in the Talmud to say that even though God thinks that this is the way things are, He says that we must follow our own opinion. My sons, you are victorious. I am not explaining the words of the Bat Kol, but rather the lesson of the entire legend. After all, the sages brought up this legend not to criticize sin and conclude that they were wrong when they ruled against the Rabbis. Therefore, the lesson from this legend is that even if God thinks X, if we see Y, we must do Y, and this is also what He Himself expects of us. What does this have to do with us? Because of course we have no way of knowing what God truly wants. The legend is meant to say that we should not be bothered by this. That we should think that even if He Himself says otherwise, we should follow our own reasoning and understanding. This is the value of autonomy. See also my article here:
האם ההלכה היא פלורליסטית?
And here too:
אוטונומיה וסמכות בפסיקת הלכה
And it's worth it here too:
מחירה של הסובלנות

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