The Reality of Demons and the Question of Rationality

Hello.
In recent days, there has been a sharp and pointed polemic between Rabbi Navon and Rabbi Rat about the reality of demons, were they or weren't they? The truth is, were they or weren't they – I'm less interested. But the question of rationality was more burning.
On the surface, the intuition is with Rabbi Navon, who is skeptical of things (like Maimonides), but Rabbi Rat presented convincing arguments. So many people have said they experienced this, the Talmud is full of stories, etc., etc…. I would be happy to hear your opinion… If possible, I would be happy to post, I didn't see you write about it…
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Trying to send a link to the debates, but not succeeding. See online. I would be happy if you would comment. thanks.