Commandments and Their Enumeration – Lesson 6
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Table of Contents
- The sixth root in Maimonides and the definition of a positive commandment and a prohibition
- The duplication of prohibition and positive commandment in a parapet and the counting of the commandments
- Talmud, Kiddushin: positive commandments not caused by time and Tosafot’s question
- Nachmanides’ answer: a prohibition meant to reinforce the positive commandment and its implications
- Reinforcement through a prohibition: Maimonides versus Tosafot and the question of “two prohibitions”
- Nozick: temptation versus extortion and the absolute scale in commandments
- Intermediate cases: an “educational” prohibition and a positive commandment versus an existential positive commandment
- Tosafot: “a positive commandment without a prohibition” and additional answers
- Burning oil on a Jewish holiday and the difficulty with the answer based on override
- Do not add: Tosafot versus Rashba and the authority of the Sages
- Passive omission, positive action, rabbinic uprooting, and human dignity
- Testimony, human dignity, and Tosafot versus the Rosh
- Beyond a positive commandment and an existential positive commandment
Summary
General Overview
The text argues that the difference between positive commandments and prohibitions is not an operational difference of positive action versus passive omission, because there are prohibitions that are fulfilled through positive action and positive commandments that are fulfilled through passive omission. The text proposes instead a normative criterion of a “desirable state” versus an “undesirable state,” and explains that a prohibition creates a “frontal clash with God’s will” when violated, whereas a positive commandment is active alignment with God’s will even when no physical action is involved. On that basis, the text justifies Maimonides’ position in the sixth root that overlapping prohibition and positive commandment are counted as two commandments, and develops the implications through the Talmudic discussion in Kiddushin, the answers of Nachmanides and Tosafot, Nozick’s analogy between temptation and extortion, and halakhic examples involving uprooting through passive omission, human dignity, and “do not add.” At the end, the text raises the question of how this picture fits with the distinction between an obligatory positive commandment and an existential positive commandment, where in an obligatory positive commandment non-fulfillment counts as the transgression of neglecting a positive commandment.
The Sixth Root in Maimonides and the Definition of Positive Commandment and Prohibition
The text assumes that duplication between a prohibition and a positive commandment is different from duplication between two prohibitions or between two positive commandments, because the distinction between prohibition and positive commandment does not overlap with the operational distinction between action and inaction. The text proposes that a positive commandment points to a desirable state that the Torah wants a person to be in, while a prohibition points to an undesirable state that the Torah does not want a person to be in, where “being in a state” can include either acting or refraining. The text formulates the idea that violating a prohibition is a frontal clash with God’s will, whereas refraining from violating a prohibition is only indirect fulfillment, while with a positive commandment there is active movement with God’s will even if in practice the person just sits and refrains.
The Duplication of Prohibition and Positive Commandment in a Parapet and the Counting of the Commandments
The text argues that the duplication of “You shall make a parapet for your roof” alongside “You shall not place blood in your house” is not duplication in content, because the positive commandment defines the desirable state of a roof with a parapet, while the prohibition defines the undesirable state of a roof without a parapet. The text explains that in a situation where a person has no house, or already has a parapet, he does not fulfill the positive commandment but also does not violate the prohibition, because fulfilling a prohibition means only not violating it. The text attributes two innovations to Maimonides: first, both the positive commandment and the prohibition are counted, unlike the duplications discussed in the ninth root; and second, the prohibition is counted with the prohibitions and the positive commandment with the positive commandments even though operationally they sometimes overlap, because the definition is normative rather than operational.
Talmud, Kiddushin: Positive Commandments Not Caused by Time and Tosafot’s Question
The text cites the baraita in Kiddushin that lists “mezuzah, parapet, lost property, and sending away the mother bird” as positive commandments not caused by time, and emphasizes that the last three examples are problematic because each also has a prohibition attached to it. The text formulates Tosafot’s question: even if they had been time-bound, women would still have been obligated because of the prohibition, so these cases provide no proof for the law of positive commandments not caused by time. The text presents the discussion as directly tied to understanding the relationship between overlapping prohibition and positive commandment, and to the status of women’s obligation in the positive commandment when there is also a prohibition alongside it.
Nachmanides’ Answer: A Prohibition Meant to Reinforce the Positive Commandment and Its Implications
The text attributes to Nachmanides the answer that in the case of the parapet, the prohibition was meant to reinforce the positive commandment or ensure that one obligated in the positive commandment actually fulfills it. Therefore, if the commandment had been time-bound and women had been exempt from the positive commandment, they would also have been exempt from the prohibition. The text explains that Nachmanides sees “You shall not place blood in your house” as not being a “regular prohibition” but one that leans toward the positive commandment, especially when the prohibition and the positive commandment come in the same verse. The text brings applications of this principle in later authorities, including the discussion of the ordinance of Usha, “one who spends should not spend more than a fifth,” regarding charity, and the position of the Maharil Diskin that the prohibitions associated with charity come only to reinforce the positive commandment and therefore do not require spending all of one’s money.
Reinforcement Through a Prohibition: Maimonides versus Tosafot and the Question of “Two Prohibitions”
The text asks why adding a prohibition strengthens a positive commandment when there is no flogging, and brings the example of interest, where the Talmud says a phrase was written in order that one transgress it under two prohibitions, and Tosafot asks what benefit there is when no lashes are administered. The text states that according to Maimonides there is no difficulty, because transgressing two prohibitions is itself more deterrent even without judicial punishment, since the person becomes a “greater wicked person.” The text applies this to parapet and argues that the prohibition turns failure to build a parapet from a condition of “not righteous” into a condition of “wicked,” so it is a practical and conceptual reinforcement even though a “prohibition without an action” does not incur lashes.
Nozick: Temptation versus Extortion and the Absolute Scale in Commandments
The text presents “Nozick’s paradox” about the difference between temptation and extortion, and explains that although the monetary difference is identical, the difference lies in whether one is moving from zero to one hundred or from minus one hundred to zero, that is, in one’s place on an absolute scale of permitted and forbidden. The text compares this to physics, distinguishing between potential differences and absolute quantities, and concludes that in commandments too there is an absolute scale of positive and negative: a positive commandment points to a positive state, and a prohibition points to a negative state. The text connects this to reward and punishment: a positive commandment is structured like temptation, offering reward for action, while a prohibition is structured like extortion, threatening punishment for action. In that context it cites a conversation with Alon Harel about the claim that Israeli law has no positive commandments at the normative level, because the law punishes violators but does not reward those who comply.
Intermediate Cases: an “Educational” Prohibition and a Positive Commandment versus an Existential Positive Commandment
The text points to the possibility that the state of “without a parapet” is not truly negative according to Nachmanides, and that the prohibition was imposed for educational reasons in order to motivate fulfillment of the positive commandment, thereby creating an intermediate category with the “character of a prohibition” but without essential negativity. The text also presents the opposite direction through the future distinction between an obligatory positive commandment and an existential positive commandment, where in an obligatory positive commandment non-fulfillment is a transgression of neglecting a positive commandment even though the state is not a “negative state” but only the absence of a positive state. The text describes this as a deviation from the model of minus one, zero, and one, and as opening the door to intermediate notions such as “half” or “minus half,” to be explained later.
Tosafot: “a Positive Commandment without a Prohibition” and Additional Answers
The text brings Tosafot’s answer in the name of Rabbi Isaac that “in all of them you can find a positive commandment without a prohibition,” and in the case of parapet, the prohibition applies only to someone who builds a house from the outset with the intention not to make a parapet, while someone who intended to make one and changed his mind, or made one and it fell, is subject only to the positive commandment. The text also brings the Pnei Yehoshua, who suggests a different practical implication: women’s obligation in the positive commandment matters in order to establish that “it is better to perform a commandment personally than through an agent,” something that does not apply to merely refraining from a prohibition. The text adds another interpretation from Tosafot, according to which even if there is no gap between the positive commandment and the prohibition, there is still a practical implication concerning “a positive commandment overrides a prohibition” as opposed to “a positive commandment does not override a prohibition plus a positive commandment,” and therefore obligation in the positive commandment prevents it from being overridden by another positive commandment.
Burning Oil on a Jewish Holiday and the Difficulty with the Answer Based on Override
The text cites from Tosafot the example of “we do not light with burning oil on a Jewish holiday,” where burning consecrated items is a positive commandment and the Jewish holiday is both a positive commandment and a prohibition, and therefore a positive commandment does not override a prohibition plus a positive commandment. The text formulates Tosafot’s difficulty: if women are exempt from the positive commandment of the Jewish holiday and obligated only in the prohibition, then it should have been permitted for them to light because “a positive commandment overrides a prohibition,” yet this is not stated anywhere. The text concludes from this that for women, where the content of the positive commandment and the prohibition overlaps, there is no exemption from the positive commandment; rather, “whoever is obligated in the prohibition is also obligated in the positive commandment,” or alternatively, there is a conception of “a prohibition accompanied by a positive commandment” as a stronger prohibition that is not overridden.
Do Not Add: Tosafot versus Rashba and the Authority of the Sages
The text cites Tosafot in Rosh Hashanah, who answers that there is no violation of “do not add” when one performs a single commandment twice, and therefore the shofar blasts while seated and the shofar blasts while standing are not “do not add.” The text presents Rashba as disagreeing and arguing that “do not add” applies only when one adds on one’s own initiative, but when the Sages instituted something “for a need,” there is no “do not add” because of “according to the Torah that they shall instruct you.” The text quotes the Turei Even’s difficulty, that the Sages could seemingly uproot even “do not subtract” itself, and brings in the name of Rabbi Elchanan Wasserman’s booklet Divrei Sofrim that the definition of positive action and passive omission is determined normatively: uprooting a prohibition is considered positive action even if done passively.
Passive Omission, Positive Action, Rabbinic Uprooting, and Human Dignity
The text argues that there are places where Jewish law distinguishes between passive omission and positive action, such as “the Sages may uproot something from the Torah through passive omission, but not through positive action,” and “great is human dignity, for it overrides a prohibition in the Torah” only through passive omission. The text presents a dispute as to whether the distinction is operational or normative, and illustrates this through “do not stand idly by your neighbor’s blood,” where instructing someone to refrain from rescue is physically passive but is considered a transgression of positive action at the normative level because it creates a “negative state” that the Torah forbids. The text offers two ways in later authorities to explain why human dignity overrides only through passive omission: either a transgression through passive omission is less severe, or when values are balanced the rule is always that “passive omission is preferable,” which yields a different practical result depending on the type of prohibition involved.
Testimony, Human Dignity, and Tosafot versus the Rosh
The text describes a case in which a Torah scholar refrains from giving testimony before judges of lower status because of his dignity, and presents from Tosafot the possibility that when his refraining would cause someone else to violate a prohibition through positive action, there may be grounds to obligate him, based on the idea that a prohibition through positive action is more severe. The text notes that the Rosh disagrees and permits refraining, and suggests that the dispute may arise either from understanding “passive omission is preferable” as a technical rule that always decides the matter, or from the question whether the other person’s transgression is attributed as a personal obligation of the witness. The text connects this to the central claim that the concepts of passive omission and positive action are preserved but undergo normative abstraction within the distinction between positive commandment and prohibition.
Beyond a Positive Commandment and an Existential Positive Commandment
The text summarizes a model according to which fulfilling a positive commandment makes a person righteous and non-fulfillment leaves him average, while violating a prohibition makes him wicked and refraining from it leaves him average. The text raises a decisive difficulty: in an obligatory positive commandment, non-fulfillment is itself a transgression of neglecting a positive commandment, and this requires an explanation of how a person becomes a “transgressor” through absence of a positive state rather than by entering a negative state. The text states that the next lecture will deal with defining positive commandments, distinguishing between an obligatory positive commandment and an existential positive commandment, and explaining the wickedness involved in neglecting an obligatory positive commandment in light of the picture developed here.
Full Transcript
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Last time I dealt with the sixth root in Maimonides. The claim there was that the duplication between a prohibition and a positive commandment is a different kind of duplication from duplication between two prohibitions or between two positive commandments. And the question at the base of the issue, behind the issue, was: what exactly is the difference between a prohibition and a positive commandment? We saw that the operational difference doesn’t really exhaust the matter, at least according to most approaches, because there are prohibitions that are fulfilled through positive action, like “do not stand idly by your neighbor’s blood” or “do not place blood in your house,” and there are positive commandments that are fulfilled through passive omission, like resting on the Sabbath, fasting on Yom Kippur, and so on. So we have to look for some other criterion. And I suggested that the criterion should be the question of what exactly the Torah is pointing to when it commands us: is it pointing to a desirable state, in which case it’s a positive commandment, or is it pointing to an undesirable state, in which case it’s a prohibition? A positive commandment basically tells us: be in that state, that’s a desirable state. A prohibition tells us: don’t be in that state, because it’s an undesirable state. Now, the states themselves can be states in which I do something, or states in which I refrain, in which I do not do something. When I say “be in a state,” that doesn’t mean perform an act. “Be in a state” means either to do or not to do; states can be either way. And therefore this shifts the difference between a positive commandment and a prohibition from the operational plane — whether one does or doesn’t do — to a more abstract plane, what I called at the end a frontal clash with God’s will or an indirect clash with God’s will. In a prohibition, when you violate it, you clash frontally with God’s will. When you don’t violate it, you fulfill God’s will, but indirectly — in that you are not violating what He wants, not that you are doing something He wants, but that you are not doing something He doesn’t want. Now, my claim was that this definition is not completely detached from the operational definition. Basically, there’s a kind of abstraction going on here. The operational concepts of passive omission and positive action, which are usually what comes up in the context of positive commandments and prohibitions, undergo a kind of abstraction. And now a positive commandment really is doing something — but not doing in the physical sense, rather conducting yourself in the way that the Holy One, blessed be He, wants, being in the state that the Holy One, blessed be He, wants. That’s called a positive commandment even if that state means sitting still, not doing something. But still, since I’m in the state that the Holy One, blessed be He, wants, then I have fulfilled a positive commandment, and that’s called fulfilling it through positive action. Fulfilling it through positive action even though in practice or physically I’m not doing an act; but there is still active alignment here with God’s will. By contrast, the concept of passive omission also undergoes a kind of abstraction. It basically says: this is a state in which the fulfillment or the clash are indirect. Meaning, when I fulfill it, I don’t fulfill God’s will directly, rather I avoid violating God’s will; and when I violate it, I don’t violate His will directly, rather I refrain from fulfilling His will. These are basically transgressions that in a certain sense you could call passive. So this is a generalization or abstraction of the concept of passive omission. And the non-operational distinctions — what I called the normative distinctions — are really a kind of abstraction of the operational distinctions. There is a connection between the initial intuitions that tell me what a positive commandment is and what a prohibition is, and the definition I suggested here. I’ll just finish writing this down.
[Speaker B] But there are also sources that treat it as though commandments like what the Rabbi said — resting on the Sabbath — would count as positive action according to the picture the Rabbi suggested.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] How? Resting on the Sabbath, yes.
[Speaker B] Like, it’s positive action even though there’s no action. Are there places that actually treat it that way?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] So I’m getting to that in a moment. Remind me of your name?
[Speaker B] Moshe. That’s just to remind the Rabbi to turn on the projector.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] I’m recording, so that’s fine, that I remembered. The projector I’ll turn on in a moment; it just shuts off on me if I don’t use it for a while. At the end of the last lecture I talked about a certain implication of this issue. I said that there are situations where what Maimonides discusses is a duplication between a prohibition and a positive commandment. And the question is why there really is such a duplication, why the Torah creates this kind of duplication. So I said that the Torah is really — actually this isn’t duplication. It’s not duplication because the content of a positive commandment and a prohibition is different by virtue of their being a positive commandment and a prohibition. Because, for example, with a parapet: when the Torah says, “You shall make a parapet for your roof,” it says that the state in which your roof has a parapet is a desirable state. By contrast, when it says, “You shall not place blood in your house,” it says that when your roof has no parapet, that’s an undesirable state. What’s the difference? Let’s say I don’t have a house at all, or I bought a house and it already has a parapet. Then you can’t say that I fulfilled the positive commandment — I didn’t build a parapet. But clearly I also didn’t violate the prohibition. I fulfilled the prohibition, I didn’t fulfill the positive commandment, because to fulfill a prohibition means not to violate it, that’s all. By contrast, to fulfill a positive commandment, you have to do the act you were commanded. Here you’re exempt; the positive commandment doesn’t apply to you, but you still can’t say that you fulfilled the positive commandment. You didn’t fulfill it. You weren’t required to, but you didn’t fulfill it. Okay? So this duplication between a prohibition and a positive commandment isn’t really duplication. That’s why Maimonides says the prohibition is counted among the prohibitions and the positive commandment among the positive commandments. I said there are two innovations here: first, that both are counted — unlike the duplications discussed in the ninth root — and second, that the prohibition is counted with the prohibitions and the positive commandment with the positive commandments even though operationally both are positive commandments or both are prohibitions because they overlap. Rather, Maimonides’ second innovation says that the definition of a prohibition and a positive commandment is not an operational definition. That’s really the second innovation, and suddenly we see that it’s not a trivial innovation. Because at first glance you say: obviously, a prohibition is counted with prohibitions, a positive commandment with positive commandments — what else? Why does Maimonides need to say that? No, it’s a very major innovation, because one could have said that even if I count these two prohibitions, or these two commandments, both would be counted as positive commandments or both would be counted as prohibitions. Say, “You shall make a parapet for your roof” and “You shall not place blood in your house” — both would be counted as positive commandments, because in both of them it’s telling me to erect a parapet, to do something. And resting on the Sabbath — both should be counted as prohibitions, because they require me not to do labor; the resting also requires me not to do labor. So Maimonides says no: the prohibition is counted with the prohibitions and the positive commandment with the positive commandments. And why? Because there is really no overlap here. One of them really is a positive commandment and the other really is a prohibition, because the definition of a positive commandment and a prohibition is not operational but normative. And that’s Maimonides’ second innovation. After that I brought the Talmud in Kiddushin, where the Talmud lists positive commandments that are time-bound and positive commandments that are not time-bound. Yes, you see it here? “The rabbis taught: Which are positive commandments caused by time? Sukkah, lulav, shofar, fringes, and phylacteries. And which are positive commandments not caused by time? Mezuzah, parapet, lost property, and sending away the mother bird.” Now out of these four examples — parapet, lost property, and sending away the mother bird, meaning aside from mezuzah — the other three are problematic examples, as the medieval authorities (Rishonim) point out here, Nachmanides and Tosafot and others. Why? In all three examples there is overlap between a prohibition and a positive commandment. In all of them there is both a prohibition and a positive commandment. So you’re bringing these as examples of positive commandments not caused by time, meaning that women are obligated. So Tosafot asks: and if time had caused them, would women be exempt? No. Why not? Because there is also a prohibition attached to them, not only a positive commandment, and women are obligated in a prohibition even if it depends on time. So why bring these examples as commandments not caused by time? Even if they had been time-bound, women would still be obligated. So these are poor examples, aside from mezuzah. So Tosafot says what? What? What? That’s Tosafot’s difficulty. I haven’t yet gotten to what Tosafot says. Nachmanides resolves this in an interesting way. He says that with parapet, the prohibition’s purpose is to reinforce the positive commandment or to ensure that someone obligated in the positive commandment fulfills it. That’s why they imposed a prohibition there. Consequently, he says, if it had been time-dependent and women had been exempt from the positive commandment because it depends on time, then they would also have been exempt from the prohibition, because the whole point of the prohibition is to ensure that whoever is obligated in the positive commandment fulfills it. So whoever would be exempt from the positive commandment would not be obligated in the prohibition either, because the whole content of the prohibition is to ensure that you fulfill the positive commandment. So what comes out is that Nachmanides is saying this prohibition isn’t an ordinary prohibition. It basically leans toward the positive commandment. In content, it only wants to ensure that you don’t neglect the positive commandment. To reinforce that, it also imposes a prohibition; it’s not just neglect of a positive commandment, it’s also a prohibition. What reinforcement is there in that?
[Speaker B] Is Nachmanides objecting to the sixth root of Maimonides in this context? Again? Is Nachmanides objecting to the sixth root of Maimonides in this context?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No. No, he’s not objecting, and in practice not either. He agrees with the sixth root. Why would he object?
[Speaker B] Because it’s not an independent prohibition, meaning?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, Nachmanides doesn’t say that about every duplicated prohibition and positive commandment — only about parapet. Right. On the contrary, the question is what exactly the indication is, and I hesitated a bit about that in the previous lecture. Why did he decide that here it’s like this? He says because it’s in the same verse. If it’s a prohibition and a positive commandment that are far apart from each other, then apparently there’s no connection between them and this is an independent prohibition and that is an independent positive commandment. But here, “you shall not place blood in your house” and “you shall make a parapet for your roof” come together, so it seems that the Torah really wants only to address the same issue from two directions. That’s probably his consideration; that’s what he says. In any case, I asked why this constitutes reinforcement. Suppose a person is willing to neglect a positive commandment — so if you impose a prohibition on it, now he won’t do it? No, a prohibition I won’t violate. Why not? Either he fulfills God’s will and that matters to him, or not. What does adding another prohibition beyond the positive commandment help? Now the truth is that in a few places in the Talmud it appears that things are written in the Torah so that one would transgress them under two prohibitions. I think I brought this example of interest, right? Of neshekh and tarbit, which are basically two prohibitions on the same act. And the Talmud says that this was written so that one would transgress it under two prohibitions. So Tosafot there asks: what does it help that he transgresses under two prohibitions if lashes are not administered for it? Interest is a prohibition for which lashes are not given; it’s reparable, it doesn’t matter — for various reasons lashes are not given. So if there are no lashes, why are two prohibitions stronger than one prohibition? In what way does that reinforce it? You say “to transgress under two prohibitions” meaning you want to strengthen the deterrent so that the person won’t violate the prohibition. He’ll violate one prohibition but not two prohibitions? If lashes did apply, you could say maybe he’s willing to absorb thirty-nine lashes but not willing to absorb seventy-eight, say — I don’t know, there are strange creatures like that. But if there is no difference, and for these two prohibitions no lashes are given, then what difference does it make whether it’s one prohibition or two? Maimonides, by contrast, has no problem with this at all. “To transgress under two prohibitions” means that in his view transgressing two prohibitions is more deterrent than transgressing one — not because of judicial punishment, but because you’re violating two prohibitions, meaning you’re a bigger wicked person. Okay? Fine, so he doesn’t need the punishments in order for there to be “two prohibitions.” What happens with a prohibition plus a positive commandment? Here too, for example with parapet, lashes are not given. “You shall not place blood in your house” — so I didn’t build a parapet. Do I get lashes for that? There’s a prohibition. No. Why not? Why not get lashes for that prohibition? Right, because it’s a prohibition that involves no action. I didn’t make a parapet. Right — on a prohibition without an action, lashes are not given. Okay? So here too there are no lashes. So the question returns about the duplication: why does placing a prohibition strengthen it more once there is already a positive commandment? So I say that according to Tosafot this really is a difficult question. But according to Maimonides, the claim is that what the prohibition basically says is: if you don’t fulfill parapet, it’s not only that you’re not righteous — you’re wicked. And that condition is problematic from the Torah’s perspective; not only is it not the desirable state in the eyes of the Torah, it is in itself a problematic state. Right, that’s how we defined the difference between a prohibition and a positive commandment. Now a person allows himself, says: I won’t be righteous, I’ll be average. Fine, not so terrible. There are people who say, okay, a great righteous person I’m not, but wicked I don’t want to be. Therefore the Torah says: look, if you don’t put up a parapet, then it’s not that you won’t be average, not that you won’t be someone who is righteous — rather you’ll also be wicked. So there really is reinforcement here. Therefore adding the prohibition constitutes reinforcement beyond the positive commandment, because people don’t want to be wicked. People can cut corners on not being great righteous people, but if you tell him, listen, you’re wicked — that’s not just that you’re not righteous. I brought Nozick’s paradox, right? About the difference between temptation and extortion. Why? Didn’t I bring it? I thought I had brought it, no? Nozick, Robert Nozick, was an American Jewish philosopher, mainly of law, not only of law. He once asked: what’s the difference between temptation and extortion? The law permits temptation but forbids extortion. Now in both cases, both in temptation and in extortion, I present a certain person with two alternatives with a difference of, say, a hundred shekels in favor of one of them. Right? What do I say in temptation? I say: if you do this work, get a hundred shekels; if you don’t do it, you won’t get a hundred shekels. I’m supposedly tempting him to do this work for a wage of a hundred shekels. That’s obviously permitted, right? If we agree between us, there’s no problem: do the work and you’ll get a hundred shekels. But in extortion I say: look, if you don’t do this work, I’ll take a hundred shekels from you. If you do this work, everything’s fine. Now ostensibly, both in temptation and in extortion, I’m placing before you two alternatives whose difference is a hundred shekels. Right? You’ll have a hundred shekels more if you follow this alternative than if you follow that one. So why is temptation permitted and extortion forbidden? That’s basically what he asks. What?
[Speaker B] In extortion, it worsens the existing state.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Right. Meaning, the answer to this is that the wrong in extortion is not because of the difference between the two situations. There’s an absolute scale of bad and good; it’s not just a matter of the gap. Taking a hundred shekels — you have no right to take a hundred shekels from someone. That’s illegal. You can’t violate his rights, his ownership. Giving a hundred shekels — you can, if you agree and he agrees; give a hundred shekels, do what you want. Not giving and not taking you can also do, right? So this means that the fact that there’s a difference of a hundred shekels between the two possibilities is not enough to define the act. You also have to define whether this is a difference between zero and one hundred or between minus one hundred and zero. Even though in both cases the gap is a hundred shekels, your location on the absolute scale also matters. Meaning, are you at minus one hundred versus zero, or at zero versus one hundred. Right? In physics there are potential differences, you know that? For example, when we connect a battery to an electrical circuit. So why does current flow? Because between the two poles of the battery, or the two electrodes of the battery, there is a gap, a voltage difference. Say one is three volts and one is two volts, then there is a voltage drop of one volt, and so the electrons move. That voltage pushes the electrons and creates current. Okay? Now in potential, in general in potential energy and electrical potential and all those things, what matters is only the difference. There is no absolute value of potential energy. The question is what the difference is in potential energies between the top and the bottom. Force is an absolute quantity. It’s not a differential quantity. If a force acts on it, it will move there. Force is not defined relative to something. Force is an absolute quantity. Potential energy is always defined relative to zero. You decide where zero is, and relative to that you define the energy. You can place zero wherever you want. What matters in potential energy is only the differences. Okay? That means there are quantities that are differential by nature and quantities that are absolute by nature. And in our context too, the same thing. Meaning, the difference between temptation and extortion is not on the differential plane — on that plane it’s the same. But on the absolute plane, the question is where on the objective absolute axis you stand; that’s what determines it. Okay? It’s basically like this in another formulation: when I tempt, both options are legal options. He can do the work and I’ll pay him, and that’s legal. He can choose not to do the work and I won’t pay him, that’s also legal. Everything’s fine. In the case of extortion, one of the options is legal — if he does the work. Taking his money, taking his money is forbidden. That’s illegal. So when you offer a deal in which one side is illegal, that’s an illegal deal. Even though he can choose the other side and then everything will be legal. Yes, but of course this is an offer you can’t refuse, in Al Capone’s terms. Meaning, if the alternative is that I’ll take a hundred shekels from you, then go to the other, legal side, because you have no choice; otherwise you’ll suffer. So that makes even the legal side forbidden. Right, that’s not real consent. In any case, for our purposes, the claim is that there is an absolute scale of positive or negative, like in numbers or in the money examples of temptation and extortion, and the same applies to commandments. When there is a state whose value is positive, that’s a positive commandment; pointing to it is a positive commandment. When there is a state whose value is negative, pointing to that is a prohibition. Okay? Even though at the differential level a positive commandment says: don’t be here, because this is zero; be here, because this is one. And a prohibition says: be here, because this is zero, and don’t be there, because that’s minus one. You see? That’s exactly like temptation versus extortion. It’s exactly the same thing. Therefore, even in halakhic treatment, you can see that a prohibition is basically structured like extortion. Meaning, if you don’t do it then you’ll receive — if you do it then you’ll get punished. Right? A positive commandment is structured like temptation. If you do it, you’ll receive reward. If you don’t do it, you won’t get anything, nothing will happen, but if you do it you’ll get reward. So it’s really parallel to the distinction between temptation and extortion. I think I did talk about this for some reason, because I think — didn’t I tell you about this? I spoke with Alon Harel, the legal scholar from the Hebrew University, and I spoke with him about the question, when I was dealing with this topic, whether there are positive commandments in law. In Israeli law. Didn’t we talk about that? Yes, we did talk about it. So there he brought me this example from Nozick, about the difference between temptation and extortion. He claimed there are positive commandments, and I claimed there are not. Because at the operational level there are positive commandments: paying taxes, serving in the army — those are positive commandments. You need to do an act; the law requires you to do an act. But at the normative level there are no positive commandments. The law does not reward anyone for doing something; the law punishes whoever violates it. Therefore the positive commandment to pay taxes is basically the prohibition not to fail to pay taxes.
[Speaker B] The default in law is below the line, apart from what…
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Yes, but still, once you’ve defined something, then there is no default anymore. What you’ve defined, I argue, is always defined as a prohibition. Okay? This is connected to the fact that the default really is that everything is permitted — the principle of legality, as it’s called. So Maimonides’ claim that “you shall not place blood in your house” comes to reinforce “you shall make a parapet for your roof” is itself based on the fact that a prohibition is inherently more reinforcing than a positive commandment. Meaning, it gives you less room to neglect the positive commandment, because it says: if you merely neglect a positive commandment, then you’re not righteous — and a person may be willing to do that. But it says to you: you’re also violating a prohibition, so you’re also wicked. That’s something else. A person won’t do that. And so this is basically a kind of stick and carrot — I talked about that — or temptation versus extortion, and therefore there really is an element of reinforcement here. So beyond the fact that there is a duplication between a prohibition and a positive commandment, which itself shows that there is some essential difference between them just by virtue of their being a prohibition and a positive commandment, the fact that they place a prohibition overlapping a positive commandment and this is perceived as reinforcing the positive commandment — that too itself points in the direction I spoke about earlier. Later on I’ll get to the point that there is something here… we need to look at it at higher resolution. Look, for example, at Nachmanides’ prohibition of “you shall not place blood in your house.” Basically, the Torah’s claim is not really that being without a parapet is a negative state. Basically it’s a positive commandment. Being with a parapet is a positive state. They placed the prohibition only in order to reinforce the positive commandment. But it’s not a truly negative state. It’s a negative state intended only for educational needs, let’s call it, or something like that. Meaning, only to motivate you to fulfill the positive commandment. So it’s a kind of intermediate state: on the one hand, if it were just a repetition of the positive commandment in different words, then it also wouldn’t motivate. So you’ve added another positive commandment — so what? Okay? So yes, it does motivate. But on the other hand, whoever is exempt from the positive commandment is exempt from the prohibition too, like women, yes, if this… He does it with the method of a stick and not with the method of a carrot. Meaning he says to me: if you don’t do this positive commandment, then you’ll get punished, you’ll violate a prohibition, you’ll be wicked. But it’s not a real prohibition. Meaning, the state without a parapet — according to Nachmanides — is not a negative state. The state with a parapet is a positive state. The prohibition was imposed for educational reasons. So this already introduces some intermediate level for us. Meaning, there’s something here that has the character of a prohibition even though it isn’t really a negative state. Right? But still the Torah wants to impose on it the categories of a prohibition just to reinforce the positive commandment. There is also an opposite direction. We’ll later see the difference between an obligatory positive commandment and an existential positive commandment. An obligatory positive commandment, if you don’t fulfill it, then you’ve committed a transgression — the transgression of neglecting a positive commandment, not the transgression of a prohibition but the transgression of neglecting a positive commandment. Now according to the way I described it earlier, that’s problematic. Because if you didn’t fulfill the positive commandment, you’re not righteous, but you can’t say you’re wicked. Someone who committed a transgression is wicked; he did something wrong, not just that he didn’t do what was right. Right? Now if you’re talking about obligatory positive commandments, then this is a commandment such that not doing it is a transgression. You understand that this again is some sort of intermediate state — of being not okay, but the “not okay” here is only because you weren’t in the positive state. It’s not that you are in a negative state. There are positive states such that not being in them is itself problematic. That doesn’t mean I’m in a negative state, but certain positive states are unique in that not being in them is still a failure. Meaning, someone who isn’t there is not average — he’s at least a little wicked. Meaning, there is something problematic here even though it is not defined as a prohibition. Again, this is an intermediate state between a prohibition and a positive commandment. Because if a positive commandment is one, and the prohibition is minus one, and the intermediate state is zero, then we suddenly saw here states of one-half or minus one-half. Right? There are really intermediate states here. So we’ll talk more about that later. In any case, let’s take a moment to look at Tosafot. I spoke about Tosafot’s question, right, regarding parapet and sending away the mother bird and so on — why the Talmud brings these as positive commandments not caused by time, which women are obligated in. Tosafot asked: even if time did cause them, women would still be obligated, because there is a prohibition attached to them. Right? So Nachmanides — I brought Nachmanides’ answer. I haven’t yet brought Tosafot’s answers. Nachmanides’ answer is that if the Torah imposed the prohibition only to reinforce or ensure fulfillment of the positive commandment, then if it had depended on time women would be exempt. But Tosafot resolves it differently. And as I mentioned, the later implications as well, right, of Nachmanides’ answer — later authorities apply this in various places, for example feeding minors on Yom Kippur, or why one doesn’t spend more than a fifth on the commandment of charity. After all, for a prohibition one must spend all of one’s money; for a positive commandment, up to a fifth. Now with charity, the ordinance of Usha says that one who spends should not spend more than a fifth. And the question is why? In charity there is also “do not harden your heart” and “do not close your hand”; there are also prohibitions. So why doesn’t one spend all his money? So one of the answers — there are various answers — but one of the answers is that the Maharil Diskin… what? In charity, isn’t that a positive commandment? In charity is it only on the community? What? Charity?
[Speaker B] Of course not.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Charity is a commandment on each individual. There are collectors on behalf of the community who are supposed to make sure people give charity, but it’s a commandment on the individual, not on the community. So the Maharil Diskin wants to argue that in charity too the prohibition comes to reinforce the positive commandment, and once you’re not required to spend more than a fifth on the positive commandment, there is no reason to tell you, yes, but because of the prohibition spend more, because the whole purpose of the prohibition is only to make sure you fulfill the positive commandment, just as Nachmanides says about parapet. Okay, so later authorities derive from this all sorts of applications of Nachmanides’ principle. Let’s go back for a moment to Tosafot. Rabbi Isaac says that “in all of them you can find a positive commandment without a prohibition.” Meaning, Tosafot argues that indeed, if the positive commandment and the prohibition completely overlapped, then women would be obligated in the matter even if it were time-bound, because of the prohibition. But in all the examples brought here in the Talmud there are situations in which there is the positive commandment without the prohibition. Now before I go into what those situations are, what does that mean? So what if there is such a case? Well, if it’s dependent on a positive commandment that is time-bound, then women will be exempt, right? At least in those situations where there is only the positive commandment and no prohibition. So if it were time-bound and there were only the positive commandment, then women would be exempt. So that is Tosafot’s answer to Tosafot’s question, right? That’s how he resolves Tosafot’s question. By the way, what happens if there is no gap? If there are no such situations? If I found a prohibition and a positive commandment that are truly duplicated, meaning there is no gap between them, like resting on the Sabbath — what happens there?
[Speaker C] They count them as duplicated. Why?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Maimonides, no? No. No. For Maimonides it’s the opposite. I emphasized that Maimonides argues they count as two even if there is no gap whatsoever between them in terms of content. The very fact that one is a prohibition and one is a positive commandment—that’s the whole idea. Because if there were a gap in content, then it wouldn’t be duplication, so there’d be no point devoting a principle to it. You devote a principle only where there are two overlapping commandments and nevertheless they are counted as two. But here they’re not overlapping. Now I’m asking, according to Tosafot, essentially the same question. Tosafot says that in all three examples brought in the Talmud there are situations where there is only the positive commandment and not the prohibition. So our difficulty is resolved, right? Because if it were time-dependent, then in those situations at least women would be exempt. Because there’s no prohibition there, only the positive commandment. And the Talmud says it is not time-dependent, and therefore women are obligated, so there is a reason to say that. What happens with commandments where the positive commandment and the prohibition overlap completely? There are no situations where there is only the positive commandment without the prohibition. What would Tosafot say in such a case? In such a case women would be obligated, right? That’s why he needs to say that there is a gap between the positive commandment and the prohibition. Because if there were no gap, then the question remains. But that’s not precise, or at least not necessary. Because even if there is no gap, you can still say that with regard to the positive commandment women are exempt. They would still be obligated because of the prohibition, but still, if they didn’t do it, they would not have neglected a positive commandment. They would only have violated a prohibition. Say, for example, the commandment of a parapet—suppose there’s no difference, and the positive commandment and prohibition overlap completely. There is no case where there is the positive commandment without the prohibition. Right? “You shall make a parapet for your roof, and you shall not place blood in your house.” Now suppose this were time-dependent. You only have to build a parapet on every even-numbered day. Fine? Let’s assume that for the sake of discussion. So would women be exempt? Tosafot says, what are you talking about? There’s a practical difference because there’s also a prohibition. Not true. If a woman does not build a parapet on an even-numbered day, then true, she violates the prohibition, meaning she has to build the parapet. But she has not neglected the positive commandment. Is there neglect of a positive commandment here? Just one second—so seemingly there is still reason to say, regarding commandments that are not time-dependent, that if they were time-dependent then women would be exempt from them. True, in terms of the positive commandment itself they would have to do it because of the prohibition, but—but—but from the positive commandment they are exempt, so what’s the problem? What is bothering Tosafot? What is the difficulty at all? I don’t see any difficulty in Tosafot’s words. Tosafot apparently understands, either like what you said—I don’t remember the name—Noam, right, like Noam said, that maybe Tosafot really does not accept Maimonides, but rather like Saadia Gaon, what we saw, that when there is overlap between a prohibition and a positive commandment, it is really one commandment. And therefore there is no point—not only in terms of counting the commandments but in terms of obligation either—in saying that women are exempt. They’re not exempt. They are obligated because of the prohibition, and that counts as being obligated; there is no gap here between the prohibition and the positive commandment. But one could also say otherwise, and this by the way is the accepted view among the medieval authorities (Rishonim) and later authorities (Acharonim), that in a place where, as with the Sabbath, “observe” and “remember” were said in one utterance, then the prohibition and the positive commandment were said together in order to say that women are obligated even though it is time-dependent. What does that mean? The simple understanding is that women are oblig- it’s not that the prohibition and the positive commandment are the same commandment. No. There is a prohibition and there is a positive commandment, and their content overlaps, but whoever belongs to the prohibition belongs to the positive commandment as well. Therefore, even though the positive commandment is time-dependent, women are not exempt from it. And again, they are not exempt from even the positive-commandment aspect of it, not just because there is also a prohibition here and therefore they have to keep the Sabbath anyway. That is certainly true. But I’m saying the claim is stronger than that. There is also a positive commandment here, and when a woman does prohibited labor on the Sabbath she has both violated a prohibition and neglected a positive commandment, even though it is a time-dependent positive commandment. Because in a place where the positive commandment and the prohibition have overlapping content, then the definitions are the same definitions. Whoever is obligated on the side of the prohibition is obligated on the side of the positive commandment as well. What’s the idea behind this? It seems to me, at least, that the idea behind it is probably that these are positive commandments where basically there is value in a woman doing them. She is exempt for certain reasons; Jewish law does not obligate her, but it is not that there is no value in the woman doing it. And we know, after all, that according to almost all views, there is value in a woman performing a time-bound positive commandment. Whether she makes the blessing or does not make the blessing. But—but—there is value in her fulfilling a time-bound positive commandment. She is only exempt; she is not obligated, for various reasons. But there is such value. Now, in a case where from the side of the prohibition she is going to have to do it anyway, then what is the point of exempting her from the positive commandment? After all, you exempt her from the positive commandment because you don’t obligate—say, like the Abudarham says—I exempt her from the positive commandment because I don’t want to tie her down; she has to take care of the children, she has to, I don’t know, do all sorts of things like that. Fine, let’s assume that. To me that’s a strange reason, but fine. Let’s assume that’s the reason. What, so basically it’s suspended, not fully permitted, right? Basically I would want her to do it, but I set it aside because of one consideration or another. But if from the side of the prohibition she will have to do it anyway, then here you won’t succeed in exempting her overall, so there’s no reason to exempt her from the positive commandment either. Because basically I want her to fulfill the positive commandment too. I exempt her because I want to free her up; but if in any case she won’t be free even if I exempt her, then why exempt her? It’s like the Rogatchover says in a responsum, Tzafnat Paneach responsa, siman 2. He discusses there what happens if someone cooked on a Jewish holiday that falls on the Sabbath. By accident or
[Speaker D] intentionally?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, simply the question is what he violated. Whether by accident or intentionally, it doesn’t matter for coercion, but for our purposes I’m asking which prohibitions he violated. On the face of it, on a Jewish holiday you’re allowed to cook, right? It wasn’t prohibited. On the Sabbath it’s prohibited. So he violated the prohibition of cooking on the Sabbath; he did not violate the prohibition of cooking on a Jewish holiday. The Rogatchover argues that he also violated the prohibition of cooking on a Jewish holiday. What stands behind this, I think at least, is that clearly even on a Jewish holiday there is also a value in not cooking; it’s just that Jewish law doesn’t prohibit it. It was permitted. You weren’t able to cook beforehand, so cook on the holiday. Fine? But there is still value in refraining even from that. That’s an assumption—not everyone agrees with it—but it is an assumption. Okay? Now, if that is indeed the conception, then when a Jewish holiday falls on the Sabbath it is very logical that they would not permit you also from the holiday side of the matter, since in any case no one is going to exempt you, no one is going to free you from the need to cook before the holiday, because you will have to do that due to the Sabbath laws involved. So why permit you to cook on the holiday? Okay? So the same thing here. Therefore in Tosafot here it seems that because… Tosafot resolves his difficulty by saying there is a gap in content between the prohibition and the positive commandment. There are situations where there is the positive commandment but no prohibition, and that explains why it is important to point out that this is not time-dependent, because if it were time-dependent then women would again be exempt from the positive commandment, since there is no accompanying prohibition. So I asked: what happens when there is perfect overlap between the prohibition and the positive commandment? When there are no situations where there is a positive commandment but no prohibition. What happens there? There, according to Tosafot, it really is difficult. There would be no point in mentioning that it is not time-dependent, because even if it were time-dependent women would still be obligated. Why? Two explanations. One explanation, what Noam said, is that maybe Tosafot does not accept Maimonides’ idea that these are really two commandments. Where the content is completely overlapping, then even when the overlap is between a prohibition and a positive commandment, according to Tosafot this is one commandment, one entity. And then there is no point in saying that women are exempt from the positive commandment but obligated in the prohibition; there is no positive commandment and prohibition here, it is one commandment and they are obligated in it because of the prohibition aspect. A second possibility, and this is more likely, is that in places where there is an overlapping prohibition and positive commandment, whoever is obligated in the prohibition is also obligated in the positive commandment. There is no exemption from the positive commandment there. Therefore, if it were time-dependent, women would still be obligated, and they would be obligated in the positive-commandment aspect too, not only in the prohibition aspect. As I said before. Okay. Let’s continue reading. He says: “In all of them you can find a case of a positive commandment without a prohibition. And regarding a parapet, ‘you shall not place blood’ applies only when one builds a house from the outset with the intention of not making a parapet. But if he intended to make a parapet, and after building it changed his mind, or he made one and it fell, then there is only the positive commandment of ‘you shall make a parapet.’” And then women would be exempt. Here he has some halakhic claim saying that if from the outset you built the house with the intention not to make a parapet, then you violated “you shall not place blood in your house.” But if not—if you planned to make a parapet and only because of circumstances beyond your control you didn’t do it, or you did it and it fell—then you have not fulfilled the commandment of “you shall make a parapet for your roof,” but you did not violate the prohibition. That is what Tosafot claims. And so because there is a gap between the positive commandment and the prohibition, there is reason to point out that this positive commandment is not time-dependent, because if it were time-dependent then women really would be exempt. The Pnei Yehoshua, for example, comments that if not for Tosafot he would have resolved it differently. He would have said that there is a difference between the positive commandment and the prohibition regarding “it is better to do the commandment oneself than through an agent.” Right, the Talmud at the beginning of chapter 2 of tractate Kiddushin says that with positive commandments, true, they can be performed through an agent, but it is better to do the commandment oneself than through an agent. Meaning, if the person does it himself, it is a greater commandment than if he does it through an agent. So the Pnei Yehoshua says: if so, then it is important to point out that women are obligated in these positive commandments, yes, like parapet or sending away the mother bird, or lost property, because if it were only a prohibition—say, if it were time-dependent—then if it were time-dependent, women would be exempt from the positive commandment and obligated in the prohibition, right? Then they would still have to build the parapet because of the prohibition. Would the rule of “it is better to do the commandment oneself than through an agent” apply? No, because there is no positive commandment. It’s time-dependent, so she is exempt from it. And to avoid violating a prohibition—send an agent to build the parapet and you’re fine, you didn’t violate the prohibition. There is no issue of fulfillment there. With positive commandments there is an issue of fulfillment. And if there is an issue of fulfillment, then fulfilling it yourself is greater than sending someone else and fulfilling it through them. But with not violating a prohibition, what sense is there in saying it is better for him himself to refrain from the prohibition than through his agent? If he didn’t violate the prohibition, then he didn’t violate the prohibition, that’s all. It’s not like fulfilling a commandment, where the question is how he fulfills it in a more choice way. So how does the Pnei Yehoshua understand it? The Pnei Yehoshua of course understands that when there is a positive commandment and a prohibition with overlapping content, it is not one commandment. It is two commandments. It is both a positive commandment and a prohibition. And therefore there is reason to say that women are exempt from the positive commandment even though they are obligated in the prohibition, regarding “it is better to do the commandment oneself than through an agent.” If he understood it as one commandment, then this would not be relevant. It is one commandment; if you decide that this commandment is a prohibition, then there is no “it is better to do it oneself than through an agent” even for men who are obligated in the positive commandment, because it is not really a positive commandment; it is one commandment that is a prohibition. The Pnei Yehoshua understands that even when there is full overlap, these are still two commandments, a positive commandment and a negative commandment. Now I move on in Tosafot. “And some explain”—this is a continuation of Tosafot. So first he said there is a gap between the prohibition and the positive commandment, and therefore there is reason to point out that these positive commandments are not time-dependent and women are obligated in them. Another answer: “And some explain that in any event there is a practical difference when a woman has some positive commandment to fulfill; for if we had said that women are exempt from a positive commandment that is not time-dependent, then likewise they would be exempt from the prohibitions, because one could say that the positive commandment comes and overrides the prohibition. But when they are obligated in a positive commandment that is not time-dependent, then another positive commandment will not come and override it, for a positive commandment does not override a prohibition together with a positive commandment.” Tosafot says: suppose there is no practical difference at all between the positive commandment and the prohibition. There is no gap like he mentioned above. Whenever there is the positive commandment there is also the prohibition, and vice versa. Still, there is definitely room to point out that women are obligated in this positive commandment, even though had they been exempt from it they still would have been obligated on the side of the prohibition. Why? Because if there were a positive commandment—say I had some positive commandment, I don’t know, of charity. Fine? Now I need to give the money to charity, and I don’t have the money to build a parapet. So if the parapet is only a prohibition, then a positive commandment overrides a prohibition, and I give the money to charity even though I won’t build the parapet. For the sake of discussion—I’m not sure this really falls under the definition of a positive commandment overriding a prohibition—but then a positive commandment overrides a prohibition. But if there is both a positive commandment and a prohibition there, then the rule is that a positive commandment overrides a prohibition, but it does not override a prohibition together with a positive commandment. Of course, because then it’s a positive commandment against a positive commandment, so in any event it remains unresolved, and besides you also have the prohibition—why should this positive commandment be preferable to that one? Right? A positive commandment does not override a prohibition together with a positive commandment. A positive commandment overrides a prohibition; it does not override a prohibition together with a positive commandment. Therefore there is reason to say that women are obligated in this positive commandment even though, had they been exempt, they would still have been obligated on the side of the prohibition. True, says Tosafot, but if they were obligated only on the side of the prohibition, a positive commandment would override it. And therefore there is a practical difference—or there is a point, a novelty—in saying that they are obligated also in the positive commandment and not only in the prohibition, in order to tell you that the positive commandment does not override it even for them. And then he brings: “Rabbeinu Yosef of the Land of Israel raised a difficulty against this explanation.” That is later in Tosafot; it’s not about the explanation I just gave now, I’m simply bringing it as a practical difference. Yes.
[Speaker D] A positive commandment overriding a prohibition—that’s when there are two actions that just happen to meet in one case, but they’re not really connected?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] What do you mean?
[Speaker D] I mean, the way I understand a positive commandment overriding a prohibition is that it’s in that very same action itself, in one single act, so to speak.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Yes, correct, therefore
[Speaker D] I said that I—therefore
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] I commented—I said I’m not sure this really falls under the category of a positive commandment overriding a prohibition; I was just bringing it as an illustration. Here, this is better. Now we’ll see a better example. Tosafot itself brings one. Later on, Tosafot raises a difficulty on some explanation there, and it says as follows: If so, regarding the rule that we do not light with burning-oil on a Jewish holiday—burning-oil means terumah oil that became impure and must be burned. Right? Because a Jewish holiday involves a positive commandment and a prohibition, while the burning of consecrated items is only a positive commandment. Right? Basically, there is a commandment to burn the burning-oil—to burn that impure terumah oil. Okay. What happens on a Jewish holiday? My terumah oil became impure on a Jewish holiday. Should I burn it on the holiday? They say no. Why? Because burning consecrated items is only a positive commandment, and on a Jewish holiday, kindling something is a positive commandment plus a prohibition. And a positive commandment does not override both a prohibition and a positive commandment together. A positive commandment overrides a prohibition, but it does not override a prohibition plus a positive commandment together. Okay?
Now he says: burning the burning-oil—there’s a positive commandment to burn it. On a Jewish holiday, is there only a prohibition? No. On a Jewish holiday there is a commandment, like on the Sabbath. There is a commandment to desist, and there is a positive commandment and a prohibition regarding doing labor. It’s not stoning as on the Sabbath; it’s only lashes, but still the structure is the same structure. Tosafot says: the burning of consecrated items is only a positive commandment. A woman, who is not obligated in the positive commandment of a Jewish holiday, since it is time-bound—could she then light with burning-oil on a Jewish holiday? And if you say yes, indeed—maybe really yes? Then why did no Tanna ever happen to say so? So why does no Tanna say this?
In other words, the claim is that with burning-oil on a Jewish holiday we’re stuck—there’s no way to burn it, despite the fact that there is a commandment to burn it, because there is a positive commandment plus a prohibition. But what do you mean? There’s a very simple solution: let a woman burn it. After all, a woman is exempt from the positive commandment of the holiday because it is time-dependent. So for her there is only the prohibition of the holiday. So from the woman’s perspective, she has the commandment to burn the burning-oil, and opposing that commandment stands only a prohibition—there is no positive commandment. So there’s no problem; the woman can burn it because a positive commandment overrides a prohibition.
Tosafot takes it for granted that this cannot be. Meaning, it is obvious that even a woman is forbidden to burn it on a Jewish holiday. Why not? First of all, this has practical significance for what we saw above. As we saw above, there is nevertheless a practical difference for a woman in fulfilling positive commandments, right? If they are exempt from the positive commandment, then a positive commandment should override the prohibition, right? We asked what the case would be. So here it is. Fine?
If we assume that when there is a positive commandment and a prohibition with overlapping content—after all, what did the answer we just read say, that “and there are those who explain,” the one marked here? What did it say? It said: leave it, I don’t need to get to the point that there’s a difference between the positive commandment and the prohibition, like the first answer in Tosafot. Even if there is no difference, right? there is still practical significance in saying that a woman is obligated in the positive commandment with regard to being overridden by another positive commandment. If the woman is exempt from the positive commandment, then another positive commandment will override the prohibition. If the woman also has the positive commandment and the prohibition, then another positive commandment will not override it, right? Where is the practical difference? Here—in burning-oil on a Jewish holiday. That’s exactly the practical difference. Because with burning-oil on a Jewish holiday, the holiday commandments—the cessation from labor on the holiday, the positive commandment and the prohibition—overlap. There’s no difference between them. It’s not like what he said regarding the parapet. There they overlap. And the fact is that regarding women, nowhere do we find, says Tosafot, that they are permitted to burn burning-oil on a Jewish holiday, even though apparently they are exempt from the positive commandment of the holiday and obligated only in the prohibition. So what’s the problem? The positive commandment of burning the burning-oil should override the prohibition of the holiday. So why is it forbidden for women? Proof from here that even when there is a prohibition and a positive commandment with overlapping content—there is no gap between them—still a woman is obligated in the positive commandment and not only in the prohibition. Okay?
If so, then Tosafot’s question returns. Because what Tosafot asked above was: why are you bringing me the parapet, lost property, and sending away the nest? There too there is also a prohibition. And if the woman is obligated in the prohibition, then she is also obligated in the positive commandment, even if it is time-bound. That brings us back to the first answer. Right—but the second answer in Tosafot does not accept the first answer. So now they challenge the second answer, and the question comes back. Right—if you like, this is a proof for the first answer. Okay? That is basically the difficulty he raises.
Rather, what can you say? That a positive commandment accompanied by a prohibition—even the prohibition there is stronger, and a positive commandment does not override it. So here too the prohibition is stronger. What can you say? That if there is a positive commandment together with a prohibition, then the positive commandment is more… sorry, the prohibition is more severe. Fine? And therefore even if the prohibition remains by itself and the woman is exempt from the positive commandment involved, another positive commandment still will not override that prohibition. Because it is a more severe prohibition than an ordinary prohibition. Okay? That is basically the claim.
Now, just as a matter of reasoning, that sounds backwards to me—exactly what Nachmanides said above, if you remember. The whole idea of such a prohibition is not that it is more severe; on the contrary. At most you could say that it is sort of half a prohibition—it only comes to make sure that you fulfill the positive commandment, right? Why is it more severe? The opposite. If it were more severe, they should have made do with the prohibition alone; why need both a positive commandment and a prohibition? If there is both a positive commandment and a prohibition, then I would say—well, I don’t know, but I would say, if anything, that precisely this prohibition is less severe. And if it comes only to support the positive commandment, then there’s nothing to discuss—it’s certainly less severe.
But Tosafot understands that if it is a prohibition alongside a positive commandment, that hints that the prohibition itself is more severe. I would say: if it is a prohibition alongside a positive commandment, then the positive commandment is more severe. That I could understand. Why? Because in order to support this positive commandment, the Torah adds a prohibition as well. Right? The Torah adds a prohibition in order to make sure you fulfill the positive commandment. It doesn’t suffice with there being a positive commandment and your recoiling from neglecting a positive commandment. So here one could understand that from the Torah’s perspective this positive commandment is more severe; therefore it wants to ensure more strongly that you fulfill it, and it adds a prohibition too.
But how do you conclude from here that the prohibition is more severe when there is a positive commandment alongside it? Unless he is saying the opposite of Nachmanides: that in this case the positive commandment comes to support observance of the prohibition, and not the prohibition to support fulfillment of the positive commandment. Now, could there be such a thing? If Tosafot understands it that way—say, on a Jewish holiday, okay? What do they say regarding a Jewish holiday? On a Jewish holiday, fundamentally it is a prohibition: “Do not do any labor.” Fine? Why did they also make it a positive commandment of ceasing on the holiday? To strengthen the prohibition. To say that if you—if you refrain from labor, then it’s not just that you’re not wicked; you’re even righteous, because you also fulfilled a positive commandment. So that strengthens a person more not to do labor. It’s a strengthening by way of a carrot, not a stick.
That is the opposite strengthening from the one Nachmanides proposed. Nachmanides’ strengthening says: not only are you not righteous—you are also wicked. That is when the prohibition comes to strengthen the positive commandment. And when the positive commandment comes to strengthen the prohibition, it strengthens the fulfillment. That’s all. It means: if basically the commandment is a prohibition, and the Torah wants you not to do labor—fine, doing labor is a negative state—but it wants to strengthen that, so it says: look, if you refrain from labor, it’s not only that you are not wicked; know that you will have great reward—you are also righteous. Not only are you not wicked. That is strengthening by way of a carrot, not by way of a stick. And that too is strengthening.
Now if I understand it this way—that it is the opposite of Nachmanides, or a reverse mechanism from Nachmanides—I might even agree in this case; perhaps in the case of the parapet he understands it differently, but with burning-oil on a Jewish holiday, with the prohibition of labor on a holiday, maybe he understands it this way. Then perhaps Tosafot can also be understood to mean that the prohibition is stronger, because in fact they make it a positive commandment—they add a positive commandment in order to strengthen observance of the prohibition. So that is a hint that the prohibition really is more severe in this context.
If it matters what is mentioned first—the positive commandment or the prohibition in the Torah—then from Nachmanides it seems that it does. What is mentioned first is the primary thing. That’s what follows from the Nachmanides we saw last time. I’m not sure that always holds, but that is what Nachmanides says.
Maybe one more comment—again on what you said earlier, Noam. Perhaps one can also understand Tosafot’s remark here in the way Noam suggested earlier. It could be that Tosafot here says that when there is a prohibition and a positive commandment together, that is one commandment, not two. It does not accept Maimonides’ principle. Then it says: fine, so that is a more severe commandment. There is both a prohibition and a positive commandment; the Torah repeats it twice to tell you that this commandment is more severe. And therefore a positive commandment will not override even the prohibition, even if there is someone exempt from the positive commandment for some reason or other; the positive commandment will not override the prohibition, because this is essentially more severe. Okay? So perhaps that too is a way to understand Tosafot’s remark.
Okay, that’s it for Tosafot. I want to make one more comment. I’m now returning to the principle we saw—that the distinction between a prohibition and a positive commandment really rests on a certain abstraction of the concepts of passive omission and positive action. The concepts of passive omission and positive action are, in their simple definition, performative concepts. Positive action means: do an act. Passive omission means: refrain from doing an act—that is, desist, yes? It is a command regarding inaction.
And I said that in the normative definition, the basic idea is preserved, but it undergoes abstraction. In the normative definition, a positive commandment is positive action—but normative positive action, not performative positive action. Meaning: be in a positive state that the Torah wants you to be in. And a prohibition is basically: do not be in a negative state that the Torah does not want. So if you transgressed it, then in essence you transgressed by positive action. Why? Because you directly collided with the will of the Torah. You are in a negative place—not simply failing to be in a positive place. On the conceptual level, this is really a transgression by positive action. Okay? That is basically the claim.
Now someone asked earlier whether this has practical significance. Okay, so—for example, in several places in Jewish law distinctions are made between positive action and passive omission. By the way, this is the article I use—I already uploaded it to the model in the previous lecture—an article on Maimonides’ sixth root; you can see everything there, and more. There are several distinctions in a number of places between passive omission and positive action. For example: the Sages uproot something from the Torah by passive omission, but not by positive action. Or: human dignity is so great that it overrides a Torah prohibition, but only when that is by passive omission and not by positive action. Okay? And so on. So there are various places where we make a distinction between passive omission and positive action.
What is that distinction talking about? In the literal sense, the distinction between passive omission and positive action is a performative distinction. That is, say, the Sages can obligate me to do something that the Torah—or not to do something that the Torah tells me to do—but they cannot obligate me to do something the Torah forbids. Right? That means that the Sages can uproot something from the Torah by passive omission but not by positive action. Fine? For example, the Sages tell me not to blow the shofar on Rosh Hashanah that falls on the Sabbath, lest one carry it four cubits in the public domain. Okay? Or not to take the lulav on the Sabbath. Now there, that is basically uprooting by passive omission, right? Because the Torah tells me to do something, and the Sages say: don’t do it. So the uprooting is by passive omission. But if they were to tell me to eat pork every Tuesday morning, that they cannot do. Because that would be uprooting by positive action. That’s the rule.
Now, incidentally, the medieval authorities (Rishonim) already noted that the Sages can sometimes also uproot by positive action when the times require it; you can see in various places that the Sages uprooted even by positive action. But the definition—the ordinary rule—is that they cannot. Meaning, one uproots only by passive omission and not by positive action.
There is a dispute among the medieval authorities (Rishonim) and later authorities (Acharonim) whether the distinction between passive omission and positive action in these contexts—human dignity or rabbinic uprooting—is a distinction between positive commandments and prohibitions, or a distinction between modes of performance. Right? For example, what happens if there is a prohibition that is transgressed by passive omission? Usually prohibitions are transgressed by positive action—say, doing labor on the Sabbath or something like that. Okay? Take “do not stand idly by your neighbor’s blood.” A person is drowning in the river, and the Torah says to me, “do not stand idly by your neighbor’s blood.” That is a prohibition—a negative commandment. But of course what it requires of me is action: to do something to save him, right?
Now suppose the Sages want to uproot this for some reason, under certain circumstances, it doesn’t matter. Can they or can’t they? So they cannot uproot something from the Torah except by passive omission, and not by positive action—sorry, by passive omission they can, by positive action they cannot. So what are they basically telling me? They are telling me: don’t save him. Sorry—by passive omission they can, by positive action they cannot. So what are they telling me? Don’t save him; leave him to drown in the river. Apparently they can, right? Because uprooting something from the Torah by passive omission, they can do. But there are medieval and later authorities who argue that no, they cannot. Why? Because what they are telling me here is to transgress a prohibition, not merely to neglect a positive commandment, and they cannot tell me, instruct me, to transgress a prohibition.
Why? Where in the Gemara, when it says that the Sages can uproot something from the Torah by passive omission but not by positive action, did it ever talk about prohibitions and positive commandments? The assumption, of course, is that positive action and passive omission do not overlap with the distinction between prohibition and positive commandment, because the distinction is not performative but normative, right? As we saw in Maimonides. And so almost all the medieval authorities understand it.
So how do the medieval and later authorities understand that the Sages cannot uproot prohibitions, even though the uprooting is by passive omission? Because apparently they understand that any instruction to transgress a prohibition is essentially a transgression by positive action, even if in practice, performatively, it is done passively. But essentially it is a transgression by positive action. Why? Because the Torah basically says that when you refrain and do not save him while he is drowning in the river, you have transgressed a prohibition. Not that the rescue is a positive act; non-rescue is a negative act. So the Sages cannot tell me: be in a state that, in the eyes of the Torah, is negative. That is the meaning of their not being able to uproot something from the Torah by positive action, even if physically it is done passively.
Here, for example, is one implication. And here it is very clear: not only is this an implication of the difference between a positive commandment and a prohibition, it is also an implication of what I said earlier, that this distinction does not erase the link between positive commandment and positive action, and between prohibition and passive omission. My claim is that the concepts of positive action and passive omission remain; they have simply undergone abstraction. Because the fact that those medieval authorities interpret the Gemara, when it says passive omission, to mean neglect of a positive commandment and not transgression of a prohibition—even though neglect of a positive commandment can happen through an act. For example, neglect of the positive commandment of resting on the Sabbath happens through an act: you do labor. So is that basically the normative criterion and not the performative one? Yes—but almost all the medieval authorities accept the normative criterion, not the performative one.
There is almost no one… Whoever accepts the performative criterion, if such a person exists… What is the source? For what? No, I’m claiming not. Because for almost all the medieval authorities, the Gemaras are explicit in practice that the criterion is not performative according to Jewish law. Rabbi Yerucham Fishel Perla wants to claim this in Rav Saadia Gaon, and even in Rav Saadia Gaon himself it is not at all clear that this is true. That is an esoteric view; it’s not a thing.
Now medieval and later authorities discuss it and they do not feel there is any problem here. It is quite clear—they do not revert to the performative criterion. Rather, their claim is that there is something… transgressing a prohibition is by its essence always positive action, even when you transgress it passively, because it is positive action on the conceptual level, on the normative level, even though it is not positive action on the physical level. Okay? So that is one example.
Let’s see another example. There is a Gemara in Rosh Hashanah: Why do we blow and sound the teruah while sitting, and blow and sound the teruah while standing? The sitting blasts and the standing blasts on Rosh Hashanah—we add another thirty blasts in order to confuse Satan. And Rabbi Yitzhak said: Any year in which they do not blow at its beginning, they are made to cry out at its end. What is the reason? In order not to confuse Satan. Fine? It is in order to confuse Satan.
So the medieval authorities there ask—look at Tosafot—“and they blow and sound the teruah while standing.” A difficulty: but doesn’t that violate “do not add”? How can the Sages add another thirty standing blasts beyond the sitting blasts? There is an issue of adding to the commandment. And if you say that once he has already fulfilled his obligation it is considered outside its time, and one does not transgress? Right? If it is not in its proper time, then one does not violate adding to the commandment. After, say, I have fulfilled my obligation, if I perform the commandment again, that is not adding to the commandment, or if I do something more, that is not adding to the commandment. Adding to the commandment is only really during the performance of the commandment, when I add something extra that I did not need. That is Tosafot’s view; not everyone agrees.
For we say at the end of “The Court Saw,” regarding the priestly blessing, that one may not add one blessing of his own because he does not thereby transgress… anyway, in short, that doesn’t work. So one can say that adding to the commandment does not apply when one performs one commandment twice, such as a priest who blesses and then blesses that same congregation again, or someone who takes the lulav and then takes it again, and likewise one who blows and then blows again; and regarding the gifts of a firstborn animal too, if he gives at one corner twice, that is not adding to the commandment.
In short, if you do the commandment twice, there is no adding to the commandment here. So when the Sages told you to blow again, that is not adding to the commandment. Adding to the commandment is when, say, you add another passage to phylacteries. That is not performing the commandment twice; rather, you are adding an element that should not have been there according to Torah law. That is called adding to the commandment. Again, this is Tosafot’s position; not everyone agrees with it. But this is how Tosafot resolves how the Sages could add the standing blasts. Because those are rabbinic. What? Because those are rabbinic. Of course—it’s explicit in the Gemara that this is rabbinic.
So what defines the division between times? I need to do the commandment, wait, and then do the commandment again? Because here we add the thirty blasts immediately—why is that not… Yes, but you are doing the commandment again; you are not adding another type of blast. If you were adding another type of blast within the regular blasts, that would be adding to the commandment. But on the Sabbath, if we extend the Sabbath into Sunday, would we then say there is adding to the commandment? If you continue the Sabbath into the next day—so what? Is there no problem with that? No. Who said there is any problem? No. By the way, there is a commandment to add to the Sabbath—there is a commandment of adding onto the Sabbath.
In any event, the Rashba there says: “And they, the Tosafists, labored to uphold this approach, but it did not come out well in their hands.” The Rashba does not like Tosafot’s answer. “And it seems to me that there is no difficulty at all.” The Rashba disagrees with Tosafot and says it is not difficult. “For they only said there that there is an issue of adding to the commandment when one adds on his own initiative, such as a priest who adds a blessing of his own, or if one sleeps on the eighth day in the sukkah intentionally as a commandment, or in a case that happened accidentally where one type of sprinkling became mixed with another type,” and so on. “But where the Sages arose and instituted something for a need, there is no adding to the commandment here, for the Torah already said: according to the Torah that they instruct you.”
In short, the Sages are exempt from the prohibition of adding to the commandment. Adding to the commandment was said about the ordinary individual: if you do a commandment again, you have transgressed adding to the commandment. But if the Sages tell you to do something else, or to do the commandment again, or whatever, there is no adding to the commandment here. Why? Because the Torah itself said that the Sages are allowed to add further enactments and decrees for us, and the like. It says, “do not deviate.” Fine? So since that is so, the prohibition of adding to the commandment does not apply to them. And through that, the Torah revealed that the Sages are not subject to the prohibition of adding to the commandment. That is the Rashba’s claim.
There are those who add another passage to phylacteries. What? So the Sages can add another passage to phylacteries, right—rabbinically they can tell you to add another passage to phylacteries, right. This is a dispute between the Rashba and Tosafot.
Now the Turei Even—it doesn’t matter—asks against the Rashba’s proof. The Rashba brings some proof there. He says the Sages can uproot the prohibition of diminishing itself. If the Sages can change Torah law—to add, uproot, whatever—they can uproot adding to the commandment and diminishing from it themselves. And then the prohibition of adding to the commandment and diminishing from it would not apply to them—not because the Torah does not apply it to them, but because they can uproot these prohibitions themselves as well. The prohibitions of “do not add” and “do not diminish”—that too they can basically uproot. Yes, that is what he says on the Rashba.
If the Sages are basically exempt from adding to the commandment and diminishing from it, then you don’t need to reach the point that they are exempt from those prohibitions—they can remove or add to the very prohibitions of adding and diminishing themselves. The claim in the pamphlet Divrei Sofrim of Rabbi Elchanan Wasserman, in the second part of Kovetz Shiurim there, is that according to the Rashba, the distinction between positive action and passive omission does not depend on whether this is a transgression done by passive omission. What are you saying to him? Let’s diminish from “do not diminish.” Meaning, let’s uproot “do not diminish,” right? What does it mean to uproot “do not diminish”? It means I am permitted to diminish. In other words, I tell people not to blow on Rosh Hashanah that falls on the Sabbath. Now apparently that is diminishing from the commandment—you are removing a commandment from the Torah.
So the Turei Even says the Sages can uproot “do not diminish” because this is done by passive omission—they tell you not to blow. Right? The pamphlet Divrei Sofrim says: not true. “Do not diminish” is a prohibition. When you uproot a prohibition, that is always by positive action. Even if you do it passively, the moment what you uprooted is a prohibition, it is an active uprooting. The Turei Even held that whenever they uproot… No, he understands that they uproot “do not diminish”; he only claims that this uprooting is done by passive omission. Why? Because what they tell me is not to blow the shofar—that is passive omission. True, not blowing the shofar is diminishing from the commandment, but I transgress that prohibition passively; I am merely not blowing. So Divrei Sofrim says in response: as long as you transgressed “do not diminish,” you transgressed a prohibition. Once you transgressed a prohibition, that is not passive, it is active. So here is another example of a practical implication.
Another example, perhaps the most famous one, concerns human dignity. The Gemara says that human dignity is so great that it overrides a Torah prohibition. On the face of it, this means only the prohibition of “do not deviate,” so it permits only rabbinic prohibitions. But the Gemara in Berakhot says that it applies even to Torah prohibitions when it is by passive omission. The Sages, because of human dignity, can uproot—no, not the Sages can uproot, sorry—human dignity overrides a Torah prohibition, fine? It overrides by passive omission.
Now the later authorities, including Divrei Sofrim and Kehillot Yaakov and others, raise two possibilities for why human dignity overrides only in passive omission and not in positive action. Fine? Say a priest is in a cemetery, okay? Or an elder for whom it is beneath his dignity—so he has to deal with lost property. The Gemara says: if it is beneath his dignity to start taking that goat he found and so on, we waive the commandment of returning lost property for him. So he does not return the lost property—that is passive omission. Got it? It is passive omission because he does not return the lost property, okay? And you can already see that returning lost property also has a prohibition in it. Never mind—the definition is treated as if this is passive omission, and since it is passive omission, human dignity overrides it. It is permitted for an elder for whom it is beneath his dignity not to return lost property. Okay?
Now the question is why. You can say: because human dignity is more severe, more important, than a transgression by passive omission. That is one possibility. Human dignity is a greater value than a transgression by passive omission. A transgression by positive action is a more severe transgression; the assumption is that there is a gap in severity—if it is a transgression by passive omission, that is a lighter transgression; if it is a transgression by positive action, that is a more severe transgression—and human dignity overrides lighter transgressions, not severe ones. That is one possibility.
A second possibility is to say: no, what are you talking about? A transgression by passive omission and one by positive action are of the same severity. There is no difference. The difference is only in whether you do it by passive omission or by positive action. So what then? When there is a clash between human dignity and a prohibition, that clash is balanced. Human dignity is on a par with the prohibition. What do we do when there is a balanced clash? Right—say a positive commandment overrides a prohibition. But what happens when there is one positive commandment against another positive commandment? There is no one side overriding the other; both are positive commandments. Or one prohibition against another prohibition—what do you do? In that situation, you just have this conflict. You do nothing. Passive omission is preferable, right? Basically, when there is a clash between two equal values, the solution is not to do anything—that is, to remain passive, because you need a reason in order to act. Since I have no reason in order to act, I do not act. You do not need a reason not to act. You need a reason in order to do something. That is the halakhic rule that passive omission is preferable.
When there is a clash between two equal values, the solution is always that passive omission is preferable. Okay? There are many examples of this. Now it may be that when human dignity stands against a prohibition, it is not that human dignity overrides the prohibition, but rather that they are entirely balanced, and therefore passive omission is always preferable. But what does that mean in practice? When the clash is between human dignity and a prohibition that is transgressed by passive omission, what do they tell me? Passive omission, right? In other words: transgress the prohibition by passive omission—but do transgress the prohibition. Therefore human dignity overrides prohibitions transgressed by passive omission.
By contrast, if you are facing a prohibition that is transgressed by positive action, once again the solution is passive omission. And in that case, passive omission means not to transgress the prohibition, but rather to transgress human dignity. Right? Because passive omission means not to transgress the prohibition, since that prohibition is transgressed by positive action. So even if prohibitions transgressed by passive omission and by positive action are on the same level of severity, I can still understand why human dignity overrides only a prohibition of passive omission and not a prohibition of positive action. The override is not because one is more severe than the other; it is simply because of the technical setup. Technically, the instruction is always, in relation to any prohibition: passive omission. De facto that comes out once as going with the prohibition and once as going with human dignity. That is just how it comes out. Okay?
So the question is how to explain the distinction the Gemara makes regarding human dignity—that it overrides only by passive omission and not by positive action. Is it because passive omission is less severe, or simply because the instruction is always that passive omission is preferable, and human dignity is on a par with all prohibitions? All prohibitions are on the same level of severity, human dignity is on a par with all prohibitions, and because there is a balanced clash here, the instruction is that passive omission is preferable. And de facto that means that when the prohibition is by passive omission, “passive omission is preferable” means transgress the prohibition; and when the prohibition is transgressed by positive action, “passive omission is preferable” means do not transgress the prohibition. Okay? So those are the two possibilities for understanding it.
Now, for example, Tosafot in Shevuot 30 discusses the following question. Someone has to come to court to testify on behalf of someone else. In monetary law, say—doesn’t matter—there is some case being heard there, and I know testimony relevant to one of the sides. I have an obligation to go testify. Okay? Now suppose I am a great Torah scholar, and the judges there are not exactly something special. They gathered three cattle-herders. Fine? If we accepted them upon ourselves, even three cattle-herders can judge. Now then it is beneath my dignity to stand before them, because the witness has to stand before the judges; they sit, they are the more honored ones. It is beneath my dignity to appear before these inferior judges and stand before them and testify. Can I exempt myself from testifying? Fine?
So Tosafot says there that if he is a Torah scholar who should not testify, then he is exempt; he does not need to go testify. Why? Because human dignity overrides a prohibition by passive omission. Passive omission—don’t go testify—so human dignity overrides a prohibition by passive omission. But what happens if my testimony would prevent someone else’s prohibition? If by my going to testify, someone would be prevented from sinning—for example, they are about to permit a woman to the marketplace, and I know her husband is alive. So do I go testify in order to prevent her from marrying, because she is a married woman, or not?
There are two answers in Tosafot that disagree about this. Fine? The question is—the answer—Tosafot says there… no, it’s not two answers in Tosafot. Yes, it is two answers in Tosafot. So according to one answer in Tosafot… Now notice: I would be violating this by passive omission, while the woman would be violating it by positive action, right? How did Tosafot understand the difference between human dignity against passive omission and against positive action? According to the understanding that passive omission is less severe than positive action, or according to the understanding that passive omission is always preferable? Right? It has to be.
If it understood that the instruction is always that passive omission is preferable, then obviously passive omission here means not going to testify. It has nothing to do with more severe or less severe; the instruction is simply always: don’t do anything. If you have no reason, don’t act, right? Then its answer here should have been: don’t go testify, even if that woman will marry. You are entitled not to go testify—not that you are obligated, but you are entitled not to go testify and not to have your dignity harmed in order to save that woman from a prohibition. Passive omission is preferable.
Okay, apparently Tosafot did not understand it that way. Why not? Because Tosafot understood that a prohibition transgressed by positive action is more severe than one transgressed by passive omission. And since here a severe prohibition is going to be transgressed, your human dignity does not allow you to let that woman transgress a severe prohibition. Tosafot certainly understood it that way.
Now the Rosh disagrees with Tosafot. The Rosh argues that one may refrain. Fine? And for what reason? Now in the medieval authorities it is not formulated this way, so only the later authorities give these kinds of formulations. And this is how he writes. He says that this is my passive omission, and therefore it is permitted for me. He does not go into the question of how to understand human dignity against passive omission, but basically he says: this is passive omission, therefore it is permitted for me.
Now here it can be understood in two ways. It can be understood that he really disagrees, and he claims that he understands the second way the overriding of human dignity. He says that the instruction is always that passive omission is preferable; it does not depend on… there is no greater severity in a transgression by positive action than in one by passive omission; it is the same level of severity. The instruction is simply always that passive omission is preferable—remain passive.
But one can also say not so. One can also say that he simply does not accept Tosafot’s idea that if someone else commits an active transgression, that is considered my active transgression. Then it could be that he remains like Tosafot—he too understands that it is only a question of severity. He says: fine, but when I have to pay with my dignity, why should I care about the severity of the transgression that you are committing? I am talking about the transgressions I commit, and the transgression I commit is one by passive omission, which is a lighter transgression. The fact that you would commit a severe transgression—I am not obligated to pay with my dignity so that you do not commit a transgression. Why should I have to be harmed so that you do not sin? Therefore it could be that the Rosh—in Tosafot this is pretty clear. In the Rosh it remains open. Fine? That is the claim.
Now in this context too, if we understand that passive omission is more severe than positive action—or that they are the same level of severity and the whole issue is that passive omission… the instruction is always passive omission. Yes. Wait a second—what happens in testimony when dignity is involved? What? Why would a witness feel that it’s not… I said: if the judges are such inferior judges—three cattle-herders that we accepted upon ourselves as judges—and I am the leading Torah scholar of the generation, a great Torah scholar, then I would stand before them while they sit and I stand before them and testify before them—that harms my dignity. Fine?
And second, in a case where apparently every failure to testify causes a problem of positive action—that they cannot judge justly. No, that is passive omission. What… They are not judging justly—what can you do? And that is still considered passive? Again, in any case it causes something to others, where it was never clear at all that this matters. But even if you accept that what you cause others is as though you yourself did it, it is still passive omission. Yes.
The distinction—I think this also connects to our discussion—because if you say that a transgression by positive action is more severe than a transgression by passive omission, then on the face of it I would think that this is really a distinction between positive commandment and prohibition, and not between doing an act and not doing an act. If you say that the difference between positive action and passive omission is a difference in severity, then it seems to me that it can’t be that way, because there are prohibitions that are passive and carry karet. Positive commandments—fine, you did not perform circumcision. That transgression is by passive omission—you did not perform circumcision, right? And likewise with Passover. So that means I do not think one can speak categorically of a transgression by passive omission as less severe than a transgression by positive action.
But a prohibition, categorically, is more severe than a positive commandment, regardless of whether one transgresses it by action or omission, right? Therefore there is a punishment for it, whereas for a positive commandment there is no punishment. So I think that anyone who claims that human dignity overrides a prohibition only by passive omission and not by positive action because of a question of severity is probably not talking about passive omission and positive action on the physical level, but about prohibition versus positive commandment. And someone who speaks about passive omission and positive action on the physical level, and not on the level of severity, will of course say: okay, then the instruction is that passive omission is preferable—not because one is more severe or less severe, but simply: don’t act, that’s all. The instruction is to remain passive. Fine? So this too is really an expression of that same abstraction we made of the concepts of positive action and passive omission.
Okay. Actually, I’ve more or less finished here; I see I have almost no time left. The next stage—I just want to present the question, perhaps, and then we’ll see. I already presented it earlier. If I summarize the difference between a prohibition and a positive commandment as we have seen it up to this point, then the difference really lies in the question whether the Torah points to a desired state or points to an undesired state. Okay? Therefore the claim is that if you fulfill a positive commandment, you are righteous; if you do not fulfill a positive commandment, you are intermediate. You didn’t commit a transgression, but you also didn’t fulfill a commandment. If you transgress a prohibition, you are wicked; if you do not transgress a prohibition, you are intermediate. Right? That is basically the claim. You are not going head-on against the will of God.
The question is how this picture fits with the distinction between an obligatory positive commandment and an existential positive commandment. Because if you look at the distinction: an obligatory positive commandment is a positive commandment that one must do, and if I did not do it, I have the transgression of neglecting a positive commandment. An existential positive commandment is a commandment such that if I did it, I have fulfilled a positive commandment; if I did not do it, that is not a transgression. If I did it, I have fulfillment; if I did not do it, it’s not a big deal. Okay? I’ll clarify this more in the next lecture, I’ll explain it more—that’s our next topic—but I’m just putting the question on the table.
Now everything I’ve said up to this point fits very well with an existential positive commandment. Because an existential positive commandment basically says: if you did the commandment, you are righteous; and if you did not, nothing happened. You are intermediate; you are not righteous, but nothing happened. But most positive commandments are obligatory positive commandments, not existential ones. And with an obligatory positive commandment, if you did it, you have a positive commandment; if you didn’t do it, then you committed a transgression—you are some kind of wrongdoer. Now how are you a wrongdoer? You are merely not righteous. So in what sense… True, there is no punishment for it; neglecting a positive commandment carries no punishment. So the implications we talked about still exist here. But on the conceptual level we need to understand how a person can be wicked just by not being righteous—not because the state he is in was defined as problematic. That state is not problematic; only the other state is positive. And the fact that you are not in the positive state already turns you into some kind of wicked person. The question is how that fits with the picture I described earlier of plus one, minus one, and zero.
I already mentioned earlier that there is also a half. Meaning—that is basically where I’m heading. But that is essentially the question that takes us from the discussion of what the difference is between a prohibition and a positive commandment; and from the next lecture on, I will begin discussing what a positive commandment is, what types of positive commandments there are, obligatory positive commandments and existential positive commandments, what that means, what the differences are between them, and in the end we will also return to define more clearly the wickedness involved in neglecting an obligatory positive commandment. Okay? In light of the picture I described here. Okay, that’s it, up to here.