Faith and Its Meaning – Lesson 12
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Table of Contents
- The physico-theological proof and its connection to the cosmological proof
- Dichotomies, the law of the excluded middle, and cracking dilemmas
- What evolution can—and seemingly cannot—refute in faith
- The scientific picture: the Big Bang, abiogenesis, and evolution
- The mechanism of evolution: mutations, natural selection, and heredity
- Nassim Taleb’s analogy and the black swan as an evolutionary picture
- The laws of nature versus explanation: the law of gravitation and gravitational force
- God of the gaps and “irreducible” stages
- Randomness in evolution and the shift from a methodological claim to an essential claim
- Quantum theory, hidden variables, and the limits of randomness at the macro level
- A critique of the “monkeys on a keyboard” simulation and Dawkins’s experiment
- The argument from the laws: moving from “who created life” to “who created the laws”
- Why the argument from the laws is not God of the gaps
Summary
General overview
The text continues the discussion of the physico-theological proof and begins to challenge the assumption that introducing evolution forces a dichotomous choice between belief in God and a natural explanation. The claim is that evolution can at most undermine a certain argument, but not the conclusion that God exists, and that there are other routes to faith beyond this argument. The scientific picture of the Big Bang, abiogenesis, and evolution is presented, the mechanism of evolution is explained, and criticism is directed at God of the gaps arguments and at popular uses of randomness and simulations like “monkeys on a keyboard.” The central move is to replace the debate over “how complexity arose” with the question “who created the laws” that make complexity possible, and to show that this is not a gaps argument that future science could simply close.
The physico-theological proof and its connection to the cosmological proof
The physico-theological proof is built in a structure similar to the cosmological proof, but its point of departure is not merely the existence of something, but the existence of something complex, designed, or fine-tuned. The discussion includes questions such as whether the argument constitutes an explanation, what complexity is, and whether complexity is subjective or objective. The text focuses the present discussion on the challenge posed by evolution to the physico-theological argument for the existence of God, rather than to the biblical description of creation.
Dichotomies, the law of the excluded middle, and cracking dilemmas
The common feeling is presented that there is a confrontation requiring a choice between God and evolution, and that both extremes—“creationists” and “neo-Darwinians”—agree on the very dichotomy itself. The claim is that many dichotomies are illusory, and that they can be cracked either by discovering a spectrum of intermediate possibilities or by identifying the shared assumption of both poles and attacking it. The argument is that once you understand what two opposing sides share, you can challenge that common element and thereby arrive at a third option.
What evolution can—and seemingly cannot—refute in faith
It is argued that there are supposedly two “refutations” that followed Darwin: one with respect to the Torah, and the other with respect to the physico-theological argument, and the discussion is about the second. The claim is that even if evolution were to topple the physico-theological argument, that would not prove that there is no God, because an error in an argument is not necessarily an error in its conclusion. It is further argued that even if one argument falls, there are other ways to arrive at faith, and that one can believe on the basis of tradition as well, such as the revelation at Mount Sinai, without depending on whether evolution is correct. The claim is that the emotions surrounding the debate are exaggerated, and that their very intensity indicates that the physico-theological argument is perceived by many as a central “joker.”
The scientific picture: the Big Bang, abiogenesis, and evolution
A scientific alternative to purposeful creation is presented through two main links: the Big Bang in physics and evolution in the life sciences. It is argued that the scientific account is incomplete, because it does not explain how the singularity itself came into being and who “blew it up,” and also because it lacks a full answer to how the first protein chain arose, from which the evolutionary process begins. The field of research known as abiogenesis is presented as an attempt to show the emergence of living matter from nonliving matter, and it is said that there is still no full answer today, though there are already “first signs” and partial results.
The mechanism of evolution: mutations, natural selection, and heredity
Evolution is described as a process that develops and refines living beings rather than creating the universe itself. The claim is that each link in the process consists of three components: the emergence of mutations, natural selection, and heredity. The difference between genotype and phenotype is explained, along with the idea that changes in the protein chain or hereditary material generate new manifestations of the organism. The analogy of houses and a tsunami is brought in to show that mutations and natural selection alone are not enough without a mechanism of heredity that passes traits on to future generations.
Nassim Taleb’s analogy and the black swan as an evolutionary picture
An idea is presented in the name of Nassim Taleb from his book The Black Swan, according to which the exceptional success of an investor like Warren Buffett can be interpreted as a statistical outcome of a “last survivor” among many attempts, and not necessarily as genius. A counterargument is presented suggesting that one should examine the expected distribution of success if the process were pure chance, and distinguish between a “single spike” and a broad gradation of people who were nearly as successful. The parallel is presented as a kind of evolutionary process in which survivors continue forward not necessarily because of purposeful planning.
The laws of nature versus explanation: the law of gravitation and gravitational force
The claim is that laws of nature are descriptions of what happens, not explanations of why it happens. A distinction is drawn between the law of gravitation as a description and the force of gravity as the factor that causes attraction. From this it is argued that even if evolution describes a natural process, that does not negate the possibility that God created life by means of evolution, and that there is no contradiction between accepting evolution and believing in God the Creator, even though there seems to be tension with the assumption behind the physico-theological argument that “complexity does not arise spontaneously.”
God of the gaps and “irreducible” stages
The text presents criticism of a creationist strategy that tries to prove God by means of gaps in evolutionary theory. An argument about “irreducible stages” is presented through the example of the eye, where intermediate stages supposedly provide no advantage and therefore would have gone extinct, from which it is argued that a guiding hand is needed to preserve those stages until the mechanism is complete. The claim is that it is difficult to determine what is truly “irreducible,” that intermediate stages may have indirect advantages, and that even if there are gaps, they may be closed as research advances. It is argued that the more evolution has already solved riddles that once seemed impossible, the stronger the objection to God of the gaps becomes.
Randomness in evolution and the shift from a methodological claim to an essential claim
It is argued that neo-Darwinians emphasize random components in evolution, mainly in the emergence of mutations and in the dependence of natural selection on environmental circumstances. The claim is that without randomness the picture would look like determinism that hints at deliberate management, and so randomness plays an essential role in the debate. On the other hand, it is argued that from a reductionist perspective biology is just complicated physics, and in classical physics there is no true randomness, only complexity and sensitivity to initial conditions, as in the roll of a die that appears random but is in principle deterministic. The claim is that the use of probability is a methodological tool due to computational difficulty, and that a common mistake occurs when a methodological rule is turned into an essential claim about reality.
Quantum theory, hidden variables, and the limits of randomness at the macro level
It is said that in quantum theory, according to the accepted interpretations, there is real randomness, but the claim is that this does not change the picture with respect to evolution, because quantum phenomena operate mainly on tiny scales and are washed out in large systems and at ordinary temperatures. The example is given of a particle tunneling versus a soccer ball, to emphasize that the law of large numbers and the structure of macroscopic systems prevent such quantum effects. The possibility of hidden variables is also presented, along with the fact that experiments have been carried out to rule out much of those theories, while noting that the dispute depends on interpretations but does not provide a basis for attributing all of evolution to quantum randomness.
A critique of the “monkeys on a keyboard” simulation and Dawkins’s experiment
The example is presented of drawing letters by lottery in order to reach the sentence “to be or not to be,” as an argument that a complex result almost never arises through pure randomness. An experiment is described in which each correct letter is “frozen” the moment it appears and then the process continues to the next letter, so that the result is reached much faster, and the claim attributed to Dawkins is that evolutionary laws flatten the “probability slope” in the same way this freezing does. The text argues that this experiment actually proves a guiding hand, because stopping the process at each correct letter reflects a programmer directing the policy, and therefore it is not a model of spontaneous, intention-free creation.
The argument from the laws: moving from “who created life” to “who created the laws”
A framework is proposed in which evolution explains the emergence of life “within the laws,” but does not touch the question of who created the laws themselves. The claim is that a rigid system of laws allows evolution to operate, and that the very existence of such a system raises the question of who set it up, similar to the example of a factory that operates according to instructions written on a wall, where the question of who wrote the instructions still remains. The fine-tuning argument is also incorporated, concerning life’s dependence on the values of physical constants, along with the claim that moving to a natural explanation merely shifts the question of design from the products to the laws that generate them. It is argued that even if evolution contains random components, that only strengthens the question of how laws were set that lead to a result “built in advance” despite internal randomness, like a drunk man swaying along a narrow sidewalk between a wall and a ditch, where the structure guides the outcome.
Why the argument from the laws is not God of the gaps
The claim is that the question of the source of the laws is not a temporary gap of the sort that will simply be closed by more empirical research. Two future explanatory possibilities are presented: a general theory from which all laws and constants are derived, in which case the question would still remain about the constants of that final theory; or a theory with no constants at all, in which everything is derived from mathematical necessity like pi and e. It is argued that the second possibility would mean that all empirical science would turn into a branch of mathematics with no need for measurements, which is implausible and not something anyone really believes today. The claim is that even a complete mathematical model still raises a physical question about the fit between the world and the model, similar to the distinction between Euclidean and non-Euclidean space with respect to the sum of the angles in a triangle, and therefore the argument from the laws does not depend on a scientific gap that is expected to be closed.
Full Transcript
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Okay, we were discussing the physico-theological proof, which is basically a structure parallel or similar to the structure of the cosmological proof, except that here the starting point is not merely the fact that something exists, but that there exists something complex, designed, coordinated, something like that. We talked a bit about the formulation of the proof, the various objections to it, whether this constitutes an explanation or not, what complexity is, whether it’s subjective or objective. Today I want to begin a bit with the challenge from evolution. Bringing evolution into the discussion about belief in God seems obvious to people. Somehow it’s clear that there is some confrontation here between two views: did God create and run things here, or is it evolution, nature, or whatever. And so the feeling shared by both sides is that you have to choose. In other words, believers choose God and then reject evolution. The neo-Darwinians—the creationists, is that what they’re called? The neo-Darwinians choose evolution and therefore reject belief in the existence of God. What?
[Speaker B] Except for the Rabbi?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, no, not except for me, there are others too. But I’m saying there are two views—let’s call them extreme views—that, as often happens, actually meet from another angle at the same point. They share some assumption that both agree to. In general I’ll say this: usually when I see a dispute between two sides, very quickly I reach the conclusion that I agree with neither of them. And when you ask yourself how that can be—after all, there’s the law of the excluded middle, either you’re here or you’re there, how can there be a third possibility?—well, I have a whole toolbox, yes, a whole toolbox designed for cracking dichotomies, for somehow breaking them apart. A dichotomy is a situation where you are presented with two options that supposedly cover the entire space of possibilities: either this or that, there’s no third option, and now you have to decide whether you’re here or there. If you can prove that A is false, that proves that B is true. That’s what’s called proof by negation. Okay? That’s the nature of a dichotomy. And many times, because my feeling is that I disagree with both sides, I’ve found myself asking more than once how that can be—after all, there’s no third possibility, the law of the excluded middle. And that means that apparently dichotomies are something that can often mislead. It’s not always a real dichotomy.
Briefly, I’ll say: sometimes there’s a possibility of taking a middle path between the two extreme options. For example, the classic dilemma arguments in logic: there’s no point in giving exams. Why? Because someone diligent studies even without an exam, and someone lazy won’t study even with an exam. So either way, there’s no point in exams; the exam changes nothing. What’s the mistake here? The mistake is that “diligent” and “lazy” do not cover all possibilities. That’s a false dichotomy. Why? Because there are different levels of diligence and laziness. In other words, it’s not that a student is either diligent or lazy—there’s supposedly no third concept—but there are levels that are neither pathological diligence nor pathological laziness. There’s a spectrum. And therefore, if someone is diligent to a certain degree, without an exam he won’t study, but with an exam he will study. There are such people. For them, it’s worth giving exams. True, for the two extremes it isn’t worth giving exams, but there’s a whole range in the middle. That’s one way to crack dichotomies: to say that there are additional levels in between.
A second way to crack dichotomies is to understand that when two options are presented to us as opposites, then yes, the law of the excluded middle applies here: either X or not-X, there’s no third option. Once you present two opposing options, there has to be something shared between them, otherwise they wouldn’t be opposites. Right? A bird is not the opposite of a table. There’s nothing shared between them. Why would that be an opposition? Two things that are opposites—light and darkness—both are some sort of mode of appearance, I don’t know, of visual appearance in consciousness. There’s something shared between them, so either it’s light or it’s dark. Okay, that you can say. Salty and sweet—both are tastes. So it can be either salty or sweet. You’ll say there’s of course a middle, but I’m speaking right now… What? Yes, but I’m saying that salty and sweet are considered opposites. Why are they considered opposites? Because they’re both tastes. You’re right that in the domain of taste, even though these two are considered opposites, there are really other tastes on other axes. In fact, not long ago they found another one. What was it called? Umami. Umami, yes, something like that—a new taste. They said there are salty, sweet, bitter, spicy, sour, and umami. So those are the tastes. Fine, I don’t know. In any case, there must always be something shared between two opposites. If they are opposites, they are opposites on the same scale. In other words, this is plus one and that is minus one, but the “one” there measures the same thing. Right? Otherwise they wouldn’t be opposites of one another. There’s something that’s both salty and sweet? Fine, okay, that means there are intermediate degrees. That’s the previous point I spoke about. But now I’m not talking about intermediate degrees, I’m talking about a third concept, a third option.
So in short, what I want to say is this: when someone presents you with a dichotomy, try to think about what the two sides have in common. Once you understand what they share, think about whether that shared thing can be attacked. If you attack what the two sides have in common, you’ll immediately find yourself at a third possibility. And since there is always something shared between the two sides—because otherwise they wouldn’t be opposites, right?—there is always something shared between them, and that means that almost always dichotomies are partial or false, and therefore you can often crack them, untie them, neutralize them, whatever you want to call it.
In our context too: either you believe in God, or nature runs itself and there is no God, right? Two possibilities, no third. That’s a dichotomy. And therefore both the creationists and the neo-Darwinians agree about that. That is what the two sides have in common: that there is a dichotomy here. Now you have to decide whether you’re on this side and give up that, or on that side and give up this. Okay? The question is whether this shared element is really correct. Can we challenge the thing both sides share? Remind me of your name?
[Speaker B] Nevo. What? Nevo.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Okay. So here in our case, I want to say that you don’t have to choose. You don’t have to choose, for all sorts of reasons. And maybe I’ll start with the simple logical reasons.
[Speaker E] But before we solve the supposed contradiction between them, there are two supposed refutations that can come against faith because of Darwin’s discovery. The first refutation is basically that the Torah says that the Holy One, blessed be He, created man, and then evolution and so on—so that’s a difficulty. The second refutation is basically the physico-theological one, that a complex thing, a creature…
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] I’m talking about the second one. The first is not a refutation of the existence of God, but of the biblical description of creation. And I’m talking about this refutation of the existence of God. So look, in principle, as I said in the framework of this whole discussion of ours, there are all sorts of ways to arrive at faith. I think I divided them into seven, I don’t remember anymore, something like that, and each of them also has different variations or shades of argument within that framework. For example, in the physico-theological case there can be an argument from design, from fine-tuning, from complexity, from teleology, whatever, there are various formulations. Now suppose I accept evolution, okay? In what sense does that clash with belief in the existence of God? On the face of it, as I said, it attacks the physico-theological argument. Why? Because the physico-theological argument assumes that complex things do not arise on their own, without a guiding hand, without someone assembling them. Okay. Evolution says: not true. Here, we have findings and a theory that explains them, showing you that complex things can arise spontaneously, without a guiding hand. So that attacks the assumption of the physico-theological argument. Okay.
Now let’s say that’s true. Yes, complex things—I was wrong—complex things can arise spontaneously. Does that mean there is no God? No. Why not? First of all, because even if the physico-theological argument falls, its conclusion can still be true. It only means that this argument is based on an assumption that is incorrect. Okay. It’s like if I bring you a proof that the sum of the angles in a triangle is one hundred and eighty degrees. You find a mistake in the proof. Does that mean that the sum of the angles in a triangle is not one hundred and eighty degrees? No. It means that this proof does not prove it. Okay. As for the conclusion, it remains open: maybe it’s true, maybe it isn’t. The conclusion has not been refuted; at most it has just been left open. And more than that, it doesn’t even remain open. Why? Because there are other ways to arrive at the existence of God. Now, even if you refute the physico-theological proof, maybe the cosmological proof, the ontological proof, the next proofs we’ll discuss—maybe there are other proofs for the existence of God. And then not only does the claim that God exists remain open—not proven yes, but not proven no—no, there are good proofs that yes. This proof just isn’t a good proof. Okay. So what? In other words, you refuted version seventeen of proof type C. So what? Why does that matter so much?
That’s why I say that all the emotions surrounding this debate between believers and neo-Darwinians are exaggerated emotions. At the end of the day, this discussion is not all that significant. But if it…
[Speaker D] If it harms the foundations of faith, that God acts in the world of religion, then some kind of…
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] What do you mean, the foundations of faith? Genesis? No, that’s what he said before. I’m saying I’m talking about the existence of God. Not about the Hebrew Bible, not about… no. The existence of God itself. Try reading, say, Dawkins’s books. Dawkins doesn’t bring evolution as a refutation of the Hebrew Bible. He doesn’t touch the Hebrew Bible—or at least in the book I dealt with, he doesn’t touch the Hebrew Bible. He talks about the existence of God. Yes. Stephen Hawking…
[Speaker B] Also wrote about this. Professor Stephen Hawking too, he’s like that.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Yes, but he doesn’t deal so much with evolution; he deals more with physics—he’s a physicist. Fine. It seems to me he’s an even worse philosopher than Dawkins, I think. Neither of them are outstanding philosophers, I have to say. Talented people, in their own fields I think they’re successful people, but weak philosophers. In any case, I’m saying first of all that the emotions attached to this debate are exaggerated emotions. All in all, you’re only examining whether one particular argument out of—maybe even dozens of arguments—is valid or invalid, whether it holds water or doesn’t. Okay, so what? Big deal. If I believe in God because I have a tradition from the revelation at Mount Sinai, then do I really care now whether evolution is true or not? Why should I care?
[Speaker E] But it seems to me that this is the proof people feel most strongly is the strongest. Right, exactly.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] In other words, I think these emotions indicate that the physico-theological argument—and that’s why I’m bringing it here—is often perceived by people, both believers and therefore of course also their opponents, as the knockout argument. In other words, this is the central argument, basically. About all the others you can argue here, argue there, but this is the joker. This one you can’t argue with. And so all the energy is invested in trying to refute this thing. I want to say more than that. I said before that even if I accept that evolution refutes the physico-theological argument, it still doesn’t mean much. It just knocked down one argument out of many, and even if it knocked down all the arguments, I could still believe in God not because of an argument but for other reasons, whatever. But now I want to argue that it doesn’t even do that minimal job. In other words, evolution doesn’t even refute the physico-teleological argument. So even if it did refute it, as I said, that wouldn’t matter all that much—but it doesn’t even do that. And that is basically the claim I want to show here.
And to understand this, I want to explain for a moment the two alternatives. The accepted alternative among believers is of course connected to the Hebrew Bible, but again, without the details that appear there: that God created the world with its laws and everything in it, ex nihilo—“the earth was unformed and void”—and from there onward, the Holy One, blessed be He, created it. Opposed to this stands a scientific view based mainly on two links. One link is the Big Bang, which belongs to physics—that’s the formation of the universe itself. And the second link is evolution, which belongs to the life sciences, yes, biology. Now of course this scientific description of the formation of the world as we know it is incomplete. Why is it incomplete? First, because it doesn’t explain to me how the bang banged, how the Big Bang itself came into being, who is responsible for that. Second, even if I accept that there was a bang and it exploded and everything is fine, how did the first protein chain arise? The first chain, the first living thing. Because without that there is no evolution. Evolution assumes the existence of living chains, and I’ll explain that a bit more in a moment, and from there onward there is the evolutionary process—how this business develops, how it becomes more refined, and so on.
[Speaker F] But how did we get from the first stage of matter—matter itself—how was matter formed?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] From the Big Bang.
[Speaker F] No, I mean where did it start, where—how was this matter formed?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Symmetry breaking with the Higgs boson—there are theories in physics. Not long ago they called it “the God particle,” and it got terrific ratings because it was “the God particle,” which is nonsense. But that’s the description of how our matter was formed. Okay? In the beginning there wasn’t matter, there was energy, and matter as we know it today was formed in some process that physicists today know how to describe.
[Speaker B] So that’s the Big Bang.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Yes. So if you’re asking about the Bang—that’s the Big Bang. Now the question of how the singular point that exploded came into being, and who exploded it—that’s what I said before. That’s the missing piece there.
[Speaker F] Where did the physical element come from—energy or matter, basically?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Well, as we said, it was formed in the Bang. What’s the question?
[Speaker F] No, where did it begin?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Who made the Bang bang, and who created the singular point? I said: those are the two questions that exist regarding physics. With regard to biology, there is some transition—even after matter was formed and the bang and everything—to the first protein chain that begins the evolutionary process, the first chain, whatever, the beginning of the evolutionary process. That’s what’s called abiogenesis. Abiogenesis is a field of research that quite a few people work on today, trying to show how living matter can arise from nonliving matter. In other words, how can a living protein chain arise from nonliving matter—how can that be? At the moment there still isn’t a full answer, but there are already various signs, first stirrings. I’m not immersed in the details, but I know in general that there are definitely already results in abiogenesis research too. In other words, there are attempts there to observe the spontaneous formation of life from nonliving matter.
Once the first protein chain was formed, now the evolutionary process begins. The process of evolution, of course, doesn’t create the world; rather it creates the living creatures. It develops and refines the living creatures. In a very schematic way, each link in the evolutionary process consists of three components. One component is the emergence of mutations. The second component is natural selection. And the third component is heredity. What does that mean? The emergence of mutations—what does that mean? There is some chain—again, a protein chain, meaning some chain, doesn’t matter what, DNA, whatever, some basic molecule that contains the properties of life, that is the basis of life. Okay? So for there to be life, you need such a protein chain, you need such a molecule, such molecules. Fine. Assuming there are such molecules, each such molecule—this is the genome or genotype of the creature—comes to expression and is realized in the form of a phenotype. Okay? Let’s say a dog that looks a certain way has a certain genetic structure. So its genome is one thing, and the realization of that genome is what’s called the phenotype. The phenotype is the form of the living creature, yes? The creature that realizes the traits embedded in the genome, plus some additional things, but basically in the genome. So that is the basic living creature.
Now this creature, from the protein chain of this creature, can undergo all sorts of changes due to who knows what—various things, various incidents, temperatures, all kinds of things. Whatever. Various defects can arise, various changes in the protein chain. Once the protein chain changes, the creature produced from it, its realization—the phenotype—is different. Usually only somewhat different from the original chain. It’s not entirely clear to me why, but that’s what comes out in biology: usually it’s a small change. Okay? So the emergence of mutations means certain distortions or changes in the protein chain that produce different creatures. That’s the emergence of mutations. After there is the emergence of mutations, there is natural selection. What does natural selection mean? All these creatures now have to struggle against their environmental conditions, survive all the problems and challenges posed to them by their environment. Those that survive remain—they survive. And those that don’t, don’t. The survivor survives, as they say in evolution. So that’s natural selection.
But the emergence of mutations and natural selection are not enough to produce an evolutionary process. Think, for example, of a situation in which there is a collection of houses on the seashore, all kinds of houses of different types, different materials, sizes, and so on. Some tsunami comes, destroys all the houses except one, which happened to be the most durable, the strongest. It withstands the tsunami, it survives. Why is that not an evolutionary process? There are mutations here—an assortment of many kinds of houses. There is natural selection here—the environment wiped out all those that weren’t durable and left the durable house. What’s missing here? What’s missing is heredity. Not the genome—heredity, yes? What does that mean? If this house produces the houses of the next generation in its own image and likeness, then we can talk about evolution. Why? Because the next houses on that shore will all be resistant to tsunamis. And therefore, in the end, if you ask me what the houses on that shore will be like, they’ll all be in the likeness of that strong house. But for that to happen, it has to pass its traits on to future generations, to its offspring—that’s what’s called heredity.
Once there are these new houses, all of which are already strong, made of the right materials, okay, that link of evolution is finished. Now the next stage begins. Suppose in the next stage a fire breaks out in that place. When a fire breaks out, the houses that survive will be those resistant to fire. All the others will burn. If they pass their traits on to their offspring, then in the next generation there will be houses that are resistant both to fire and to tsunamis. Sometimes, by the way, that won’t happen. Sometimes resistance to fire will also wipe out the traits that gave resistance to tsunamis, and then we’ll be back to the tsunami problem. But in broad terms, this is a process that can also accumulate. In other words, refinement can accumulate over time, and so on. So every link in the evolutionary chain has three components: the emergence of mutations, natural selection, and heredity. Okay? And then again it repeats: after heredity, mutations, natural selection, and again heredity; mutations, natural selection, again heredity, and so on. That is the evolutionary process.
Now what does this mean, basically? That even if, say, at the beginning—suppose we solved the problem of abiogenesis and the first protein chain arose from the nonliving matter formed in the Bang, yes, after the boom—even then I still need to understand how from that chain arose all the mess we know around us today: human beings in all their variety, many kinds of human beings, elephants, cats, mice, mosquitoes, different plants, whatever, the whole diversity we know today. How did that arise? So evolution offers an explanation for that. In other words, there are all sorts of evolutionary processes, and of course the environment determines who will survive and who won’t, and the mutations. Sometimes what arises won’t survive and then everything goes extinct. But if all sorts of things arise and one of them does have the traits needed to survive in that environment, then it survives, and then it passes that on to its offspring, and in the end they all become like it. It basically takes over the picture. Okay, that’s the evolutionary process, and that’s how it keeps getting more refined and we acquire more capabilities and more resistances and so on, while along the way there is of course a huge amount of fallout and a lot of junk in the process, lots of things going extinct, but somehow there is one path in the middle—or a few isolated paths in the middle—that keep becoming more refined and improving.
This reminds me of a book by a writer of Lebanese origin named Nassim Taleb, called The Black Swan. I think he’s an investor in the stock market by profession, and he writes all kinds of books about thinking, issues of thought. Among other things, he says there that people think Warren Buffett—I don’t know if that’s his example, but something like that—is a financial genius, an investment genius. Why? Because the fact is that he invests and profits and profits and profits all the time, much more successfully than all the other investors, say for the sake of argument. So he must be a financial genius. Taleb says: not necessarily. Think of a situation where, say, a million investors enter the market. Okay? They’re all equally stupid. There isn’t one there who’s more talented than the others. Fine? They all have the same abilities. But the market is random, right? Sometimes it goes up, sometimes it goes down, you can’t predict it. Some will succeed and some won’t. After a week, half a million of them lose and leave the market; half a million remain. Right? After another month, maybe three hundred thousand remain, two hundred thousand go out. After a year, one hundred thousand remain. After ten years, one thousand remain. Fine? After fifty years, ten remain; after a hundred years, one remains. Now that one person is not more talented than all the other million. Statistics says that one will remain. Everyone just draws his investments however he draws them, randomly—he understands nothing. They all understand equally little. Okay? So they randomly choose what to invest in. Statistically, one will remain the longest, right? So the fact that Warren Buffett remained for so long does not necessarily mean he is more talented than the others. Statistics says there will always be someone who remains. Okay? And this is basically a kind of evolutionary process. It basically says he survived there, but not necessarily because of his abilities or because there is something directed about it—statistics does it.
Okay? Yes, it doesn’t matter what he says, the question is what the facts say. But again, why do I think—and I think you too—that this isn’t correct? Just as a side note on the matter.
[Speaker E] First of all, you can simply understand it by just copying his method, if he has some algorithm he used, and see whether it succeeds more than the average person.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] First of all, that’s not simple, because he’s not going to give you his algorithm, so it’s not that simple to do that experiment. But I’ll suggest a simpler experiment. If it really were a simple statistical process—I don’t know, I haven’t checked—I would expect some kind of uniform distribution, not necessarily normal, but uniform in some sense. You’d need to see what such a distribution should look like; I don’t know if it would be normal specifically. But what do I mean? I mean that, say, Warren Buffett’s runners-up would number five. In other words, there would be five people who succeeded almost like Warren Buffett and fell after eighty years, let’s say. Okay? And there would be ten who were the runners-up to the runners-up, the third tier, who fell after sixty years, and there would be a hundred who fell after forty years. If the distribution is more or less like that—meaning it broadens out, and at the tip there is one—then yes, I’m willing to buy this theory that it’s just a matter of chance. But if you have one person who continues all the way for a hundred years, while everyone else already dropped out ninety-nine years earlier, all of them, and only he continues for a hundred years—that can still be random, but it’s already less plausible.
[Speaker G] That’s the first point.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Right, there are many influences that can enter here, absolutely. That’s why I say—yes, that’s why I said—the distribution, even if there are influences of size and the dynamics are nonlinear and whatever else you want, you can still do some calculation of what the distribution should look like and see whether this actually represents that distribution or not. So I described something simple, which really assumes no unnecessary complications, okay? But even when there are complications, at the principled level you can still check whether that model is really what we see or not. Fine.
[Speaker E] Could one say that it isn’t true because there isn’t such a distribution?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Yes, because I don’t think that’s the distribution, from my impression—I didn’t check. I don’t think that’s true. But fine, I don’t know, that’s something you can find out. Someone who stays for ten years will usually also stay for the next ten years. That’s the claim. And it won’t keep dropping in the same way. All the idiots dropped out in the first ten years. Someone who stayed ten years and made money will usually keep making money afterward too. Usually—or at least the correlation isn’t one, but it’s not very small either. Okay, good enough for this. Anyway, so that’s the evolutionary process. Now the claim is that we see there’s an alternative description to the description of intentional creation—what’s called creationism—that assumes no involvement of some external guiding hand. Right: Big Bang, abiogenesis, evolution. That’s it. Overall, we can see that the laws of nature take us to the present state, and there’s no need to assume the involvement of an external hand. Okay, that’s basically the neo-Darwinian claim. And therefore this claim says that if you want to prove the existence of an external hand from the fact that sophisticated creatures with low entropy are formed here—yes, life—then there’s no proof, because there is also a natural description of this process. There is also a spontaneous description of this process. Yes, that’s basically what?
[Speaker H] Yes, evolution has intelligence in it. Why—what intelligence is there in it?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] The intelligence that if you can’t get away, the tiger eats you. What intelligence is there in that? It’s like—you know—when two people are walking in the savanna and suddenly a lion pounces on them. So one starts running. One—sorry—one is putting on his shoes. The other says, are you crazy? Start running, we don’t have time to put on shoes. He says, if I put on shoes—they apparently have time to talk—if I put on shoes, then I’ll run five kilometers an hour faster than without shoes. He says, yes, but to the tiger that’s a joke. He says, I don’t need to run faster than the tiger, I need to run faster than you in order to survive. So that’s the logic of evolution. Anyway, the claim is that the development of life, the development of the sophistication, of the complexity of the world, doesn’t have to lead us to the existence of a guiding hand, okay? Because we have a natural description of this process. Look, I brought here a passage from the author of Sefer Ha-Ikkarim, not important, I’m not going to open the projector now, but: “When we examined the forms found in matter and in all the lower beings that come into being, we found that they all proceed along a path of perfection, some after others; that is to say, the later form is more distinguished than the one before it. It is as though matter is always moving in receiving forms from levels of deficiency to levels of perfection, for it first receives the baser form and afterward the more distinguished form, and rises step by step to what is more perfect.” Fine, and so on, in short.
[Speaker B] Yosef Albo, Sefer Ha-Ikkarim, yes.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] So that’s really, yes, a description of evolution. Yes, and the next stage is to bring this to an Arachim seminar and show that we already knew evolution here in the twelfth century. Nonsense. Why is it nonsense? Because it’s like the people who find relativity in the Zohar and I don’t know what in Rabbi Tzadok. Meaning, the fact that you can find some remark that has some affinity to ideas from relativity is very nice. Relativity is something that has predictions; it defines constants with specific values; that is, you’re talking about something very, very specific, not some general idea that you can find here or there. Anyway, the claim is that the natural description makes the conclusion about the existence of God unnecessary, okay? Now here I want to make another remark. The fact that life is formed by evolution does not mean that life was not created by God. It could be that God created life by means of evolution. Okay? We talked about this—that the laws of nature describe what happens. Okay? The laws of nature are not an explanation of why something happens, because they only describe what happens. I said—I distinguished between the law of gravitation and the force of gravitation. The law of gravitation is not the reason bodies attract one another. It is only a description of the fact that they attract one another. The force of gravitation is a cause. The force of gravitation is the thing, the entity, that generates gravitational attraction. That is the cause; that is the explanation of why it happens. The law of gravitation only describes what happens. Therefore the laws of nature are not an explanation of anything. They only describe what happens. What happens happens according to such-and-such laws. Now the question is: who is it that generates these things that the laws describe? That’s a different question. So first of all, neo-Darwinism in itself does not contradict faith in God, and not even faith in God as Creator. But apparently it does attack—it does attack—the physico-theological argument. It attacks the physico-theological argument because the physico-theological argument assumes that a complex thing does not come into being spontaneously, and evolution shows us that it can happen. So there is no contradiction between the conclusion that there is a God and the conclusion that evolution is correct, but there is apparently a contradiction between the physico-theological argument for the existence of God and evolution. The assumption of the argument apparently conflicts with evolution—that is, evolution shows that this assumption is incorrect. Basically, if I need to pinpoint where the clash between faith and evolution is, it’s here and only here. I’m not talking about the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh), only about the existence of God. Now I return to the God of the gaps, which I also spoke about in previous sessions. It’s very common among creationists to point this out, because after all they have to choose. That is, if there is God then there is no evolution; if there is evolution there is no God. Both sides have to choose. So the creationists often point to gaps in evolutionary theory, things evolution can’t explain. And if evolution can’t explain them, then there is God—that’s the claim. I already mentioned that whenever the weather forecaster is wrong, they declare a second day of a Jewish holiday in Yated Ne’eman. So the claim is that as soon as there are gaps in evolutionary theory, you haven’t presented a real alternative to the God claim. You say you have a natural alternative; I have a completely natural explanation for how the whole business arose, I don’t need to get to God. No—you don’t have an explanation, because there are gaps. Those who are stricter—or more meticulous—speak about irreducible stages, stages that can’t be broken down. What does that mean? There are evolutionary leaps that have no explanation in terms of intermediate stages. For example, there was such a claim—I think many have already answered it—but there was such a claim regarding the formation of the eye. An eye is a terribly complex thing, a super-complex mechanism. Now, to explain its formation in evolutionary terms, you need to explain that first a retina formed and then an iris and then this, and there was evolution and this went extinct and that, and eventually an eye formed. But what advantage does an iris have without a retina? Suppose—we don’t even know exactly what that means—but suppose that with an iris and no retina, you can’t see. So why would an iris form without a retina? It has no advantage at all. But that’s exactly the point: if that stage has no advantage in itself, then it would go extinct and not continue on to a retina. It would go extinct because it has no advantage. And if there is a whole series of stages that has to form until the advantage appears, and the advantage appears only with the complete eye, and every component of the eye is formed in another evolutionary stage, then some crazy miracle would be needed for that to happen. Because each stage by itself wouldn’t survive, since it has no advantage. So why would it form, or why would it survive? And then on top of it there has to be another stage and another stage and another stage—and a thousand stages—until an eye forms. That’s not reasonable. And therefore, the creationists say, this means that if such a process happened, then God is responsible for it. He made sure that the iris survived even though it has no advantages, and after that the retina, and after that this, until an eye was formed. And then everything is fine. From that point onward we manage on our own; we say to the Holy One, blessed be He, thank you, now that we have eyes we’re set. But through all the intermediate stages He made sure we would get to that point. That’s called the argument from irreducible stages. And over that there are world wars. Why are there world wars? Because first of all, you can never know what is reducible and what is not reducible. Because who knows—it could be that the iris has some advantage not necessarily in the realm of vision but in some completely different realm. I don’t know exactly what realm—something else. Fine, maybe the iris makes you prettier, so you’ll find a mate more easily, I don’t know—someone with an iris as opposed to someone who has some dark hole there instead of an eye. I’m just throwing something out. Okay? There’s something here—you really can’t determine that there’s no breakdown. On the other hand, apparently the burden of proof is on those who challenge it. You need to show the breakdown that brings us to a complete eye. So there’s some debate about this.
[Speaker I] Was there something in between the ape and the human? Was there something in between the ape…
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, the chain is—that is, we did not come from the ape, contrary to the common myth. The ape and we came from some common ancestor, or common ancestress. And that’s not… anyway, not important. So irreducible stages were, twenty or thirty years ago, the latest hit among creationists. The Christians do this seriously; they’re not clowns like us. Meaning, over there they establish a university in order to research these things and produce arguments and findings and critique evolution. Here, we do it—whoever has time during the lunch break reads the Wikipedia entry and writes a reflection on the subject. What the Christians have forgotten, we still won’t know even in another hundred years in these matters. Anyway, so there is a lot of research effort on these irreducible stages. But there is a basic claim here that says—we talked about this last time too—you cannot prove the existence of God on the basis of gaps. Fine, there may be a gap here that I currently don’t know how to explain. You cannot prove the existence of God on the basis of gaps. Why not? Because gaps used to be bigger. We’ll wait, there’ll be more research, we’ll understand more things, we’ll think more. In the end we may close this gap too, at least. So you can’t bring me proof that there is a God from the existence of a gap. The existence of a gap may be temporary. Maybe after some time we’ll close it, understand it, and everything will be fine. We’ll understand how the eye developed and everything will be fine. So what if we don’t understand it right now? There are many things we didn’t understand. A hundred years ago we understood less, two hundred years ago even less. Scientific knowledge progresses, that’s all. Therefore you cannot really argue for the existence of God on the basis of the existence of gaps.
[Speaker E] It’s the same whole… you don’t know that things can form on their own? Wait twenty years. You don’t know that complex things…? Wait forty years.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Exactly. Now the question is what kinds of arguments are resistant to this refutation, so that they won’t be God of the gaps. Okay? That’s a good question. And I think that indeed the arguments… but before I get to that, we need to understand that it’s not just some claim of “well, if we research more then maybe we’ll also understand how an eye formed.” We need to understand that a hundred years ago—not a hundred, two hundred years ago—before Darwin came along, in 1870, I think that’s when the book came out, say about a hundred and sixty years ago, nobody even imagined that there could be an explanation for the formation of life without a guiding hand. Atheists had to be a little irrational in order to be atheists, okay? Up to that stage. You could say, okay, it requires analysis, I don’t know, move on to the next Tosafot. Meaning—but they had no answer. The fact that evolution advances and that we constantly understand more and more natural processes—the formation of creatures through natural processes—also gives us a hint regarding the future. It tells us that if there is some part we don’t understand, for example how the eye formed, there’s a pretty good chance that we’ll understand it after some time. In other words, it’s not only a hope—well, maybe we’ll understand it… We see progress in those very directions. That is, those same arguments that one hundred and sixty years ago—today no one even looks at them, they just don’t hold water at all. So when we are advancing in this particular direction and have already made very significant progress, it becomes much harder to say, “Yes, but you don’t know how the eye evolved, therefore there is God.” In other words, it’s not just some ungrounded hope that maybe science will explain it in the future. Two hundred years ago it really was an ungrounded hope. But now, after a hundred and fifty years of research into evolution, it is a much better-grounded hope, because overall a huge number of things we didn’t understand and a huge number of puzzles have found their solution. And therefore the God-of-the-gaps argument becomes stronger. The counterargument, that is. Don’t bring proofs for the existence of God on the basis of gaps in scientific knowledge. That claim becomes stronger and stronger. Okay? So therefore this God-of-the-gaps claim is really significant today. And now an important point: say two hundred years ago, if I had raised the physico-theological argument, I would have said—look, how did life form? Without a guiding hand? How did life form? Impossible, it can’t form by itself. So if someone tells me, “Well, when we research and research more, then we’ll understand that too,” that’s just a hope with no basis. You can say that about anything, fine. About every miracle that happened here, you can always say: okay, maybe there’s some explanation that I don’t understand. So it sounds a bit evasive. Today the situation is not like that. That’s exactly the point. Therefore evolution does play an important role here. This big struggle around evolution is not for nothing. Because after evolution showed us that this utterly unexpected thing happened, and we really do understand things that there was no chance at all we would be able to understand, then now to say that we’ll also understand the formation of the eye—we already understood how an ape formed, how a human being formed, how all these creatures formed—fine, then we’ll also understand how the eye formed. We’ll understand that too. It’s no longer just some hope that you toss out without any basis. There is something much more grounded here, let’s call it that. And therefore the debate starts to become more meaningful. That’s the first point. The second point: usually it is very important for the neo-Darwinians’ argument to point out that evolution contains random, accidental components. That’s essential. What does that mean? Where in the process I described earlier—the evolutionary process—where are the random components? The formation of mutations, we said all kinds of such things arise, one form or another, various distortions or defects or changes in the genome. The second thing is the environment. That is, if by chance a fire broke out here, then those who survive are the ones that survive fires. If there was a tsunami here, then those who survive are the ones that survive floods or winds or something like that. The circumstances—if a tiger passed through here, then those who survive are the ones who know how to climb trees; if a lion passed through here. If a tiger passed through here, then those who survive are the ones who run faster than the tiger. That is, different abilities survive in a way that depends on circumstances that are completely accidental. In such circumstances, survival will be determined according to these parameters; in other circumstances, survival will be determined according to other parameters. So that too is a random component in the evolutionary process. In other words, it mainly appears in two places: the formation of mutations and natural selection. Those are random processes. Genetics less so. Once you have a given genome, there are laws of nature that say how genetics will continue to work. Okay? Again, there too there are somewhat random matters—recessive traits and probabilities and all kinds of things of that sort. But there there are already fairly clear laws governing the matter. Now here I want to point to a point that could be a very important point. On a simple view, there really isn’t anything random in evolution. It’s simply not true. There is no random component in evolution. And again, maybe before that, why is it important to discuss whether there are random components in evolution? Why does it matter at all? Because if there were no random components, then this would not be a real alternative to the existence of God. You’re basically saying there are laws of nature that generate life in a completely deterministic way, so somebody is running the show. And if you tell me, no, no, without any guiding hand, the whole business is completely random, and—boom—human beings arise. Okay? Then you’re saying: here, you have a completely random process, uncontrolled, unregulated, with no external hand involved, and it succeeds in producing complex creatures or products. In other words, the randomness in evolution is very essential to the discussion. And therefore I want to remark here that this essential thing for the discussion is on a very limited warranty. On the face of it, there are no random things in evolution. It’s simply not true. Why? Because suppose we’re reductionists for a moment, then basically at the base, in the end, the processes are all physics. Biology is basically just complicated physics. Physics of a huge number of particles connected to one another in various ways, through chemistry to biology—with a salute. Right? But this… at the base it’s all physics. At least according to the common view today, that there is such a reductionism, that biology can be reduced to chemistry and physics. Okay? It’s only complexity; it’s only a question of our inability to calculate what so many particles are doing, therefore they build laws that are laws of chemistry or laws of biology because the laws of physics won’t get us anywhere. It’s impossible to carry out that many calculations. Okay? But in principle we could do calculations on the particles and in the end get, I don’t know, a sonnet of Shakespeare. That is, yes, if we know all of Shakespeare’s particles, all their history and what they are doing at any given moment, we will know exactly what sonnet he is going to write now. Okay? That’s the claim. Now, so in fact it turns out that there isn’t—that is, first of all it turns out that randomness is an important thing. This discussion of whether there is randomness in evolution is an important discussion. The second claim I want to make is that on the face of it, it seems there is no randomness in evolution. Why not? Because in physics we know—if everything is physics—in physics we know there is no real randomness. What does that mean? Let’s leave quantum theory aside for the moment—I’ll get to quantum in a second—but in the physics we know, Newtonian mechanics, whatever, electricity, electromagnetism, the physical theories we know that describe the world around us, they are all deterministic, completely deterministic. Some time ago I wrote on my website about Norton’s Dome, yes? Norton’s dome. Do you know it? It’s a fascinating phenomenon. It shows a case in classical mechanics where there is a non-deterministic solution. That is, a certain shape of dome—there is a formula that gives the shape of the dome—you put a little ball on top and ask yourself what will happen to the ball. And the answer is that it can choose, at any given moment, to start rolling downward whenever it wants. And everything still solves the equation. That is, all of those are solutions of the equation. Newton’s equation, Newton’s laws. Well, that’s a whole story in itself. Someone sent it to my website and I only just became acquainted with it a week or two ago. Can it choose? I don’t know, it will start rolling at some time. I call that choosing; doesn’t matter what you call it. It can roll at any given moment whatsoever, and that is a valid solution of the equation of motion. And all those are solutions. You cannot know at what moment it will happen. That is, every moment at which it happens is a solution of the equations of motion. Okay? Anyway, but for our purposes, it probably can’t happen—such a dome probably can’t exist, in my opinion. But never mind, it’s a dome that has no second derivative. So the question is whether there is such a thing in nature. In any case, the claim is that the laws of nature are deterministic. So why do we speak about random processes? Like I said before regarding the formation of mutations and so forth—that’s not real randomness. It’s just complexity. Think, for example, about a die or a coin. When I throw a die, okay, in principle that’s a Newtonian mechanics problem. There is no principled problem with doing a calculation and telling you which face the die will land on. There is nothing random at all in rolling a die. Notice that. And not in tossing a coin, and not in anything else you know. Nothing random. Okay? That’s one of the problems in creating random generators in a computer or something like that—you need some kind of pseudo-randomness because there is no randomness. There really is no thing that is truly random. So you try to imitate randomness in some way. But in truth, in all the phenomena we know, there is nothing random at all. Why do we use probability? Because the calculation is complicated. That is, I don’t know how to calculate what will happen to this die because it is very sensitive to initial conditions. That is, at exactly what angle you threw it or with what exact force you threw it, the air conditions around it—anything like that can completely change the result. And because of that, we have no real way to carry out this calculation. But such a calculation exists. That’s what matters. We can’t do it; it’s too complicated. Okay? So what do we do? We use probabilistic tools. We say: fine, each face has a one-sixth chance, and we can work with probabilistic tools instead of doing the calculations. Now from that point on, this whole story is, for us, a random process that we describe with probability, and everything is fine. That’s what we work with. That’s how lotteries are done, that’s how everything is done, and it is completely fair. Throwing a die is considered a fair lottery. If the die is fair, of course. Then the lottery is considered fair. Okay? Even though there is no lottery here at all. There is no lottery here, nothing is random, it is completely deterministic. In principle I could tell you which face the die will land on, so what is fair here? The fairness is that none of us knows how to say that. It’s too complicated to say it, but at the principled level there is such a calculation that can give you the answer. Okay? What does that actually mean? It means that all the phenomena we relate to as random phenomena are not really random; they are simply complicated. We use probability because we don’t know how to do the direct calculation, so instead we use probabilistic tools, chances. But that is only methodology; it is only our way of handling the matter. There is nothing here that is truly and genuinely random, nothing accidental. And that is true for all of physics—I say, except perhaps quantum theory, but in a moment I’ll get to that too. So that is true for all of physics. If it is true for all of physics, then a living body is also, overall, just a collection of physical particles, right? Our body is a collection of particles, a huge number of particles, but overall a collection of particles. Every such particle, I know exactly what it will do; it’s all deterministic. So if it’s deterministic, then there is nothing random in biology and evolution. Nothing. Why do we call it random—the formation of mutations or natural selection or things like that? Why do we call it a random process? Because it is complicated to calculate. If a lion got here or a tiger got here, there is a clear deterministic reason for that. We cannot reconstruct it, so we cannot know it, who will show up here. But in principle, if a lion showed up here, then it had to show up here; it is deterministic. There is nothing random here. We talked about this a bit in the lesson on the categories of prohibited labor, I think, about a doubtful inevitable outcome. In any case, the claim is that when we talk about random processes in biology, that is really a methodological statement, not an essential statement. On the methodological level, we treat it as though it were a random process, because it is complicated, we don’t know how to do it otherwise. And this is not a criticism of biologists, what I’m saying now—I don’t know how to do biology better than they do—but this is the right way to handle biology. Biology has to be handled this way because that is the only way to handle it; you can’t do a physical calculation of all the particles. You can’t do it. But notice: when you take—and this is a common mistake—you take a methodological rule and turn it into an essential rule. What does that mean? You assume methodologically that the process is random, and now suddenly you forget that this is only methodology and you say, look, there are random elements in nature. No, there are no random elements in nature. Methodologically you assume that this is a random process because it is convenient to handle it that way, and that is perfectly fine on the scientific methodological level, but when you move into philosophy, you are actually turning the methodological claim into an essential claim, and you are basically saying there are random things here. Not true. There are no random things here. Nothing here is random; everything has been fixed since the six days of creation. Let me maybe give you another example. Materialists assume that in the living body there is nothing except physics and chemistry and biology—again, reductionism—but nothing beyond matter. There is no such thing as spirit, soul, or things of that kind. Now again, maybe they are right and maybe not; on the methodological level they are certainly right. And on the methodological level it is much more correct to make the materialist assumption in order to advance research. Why? Because if you assume there is a spirit, you have no way to deal with it. What do you do with spirit? How do you measure it? How do you know how it affects the body and how it doesn’t? So therefore, for the sake of research, I say okay, let’s ignore the question of spirit, assume we are dealing here with a completely material body, and try to see how far we can get with this assumption, because that is the scientific way to advance. Does that mean we have no spirit? No. It only means that methodologically, on the scientific level, it is more convenient to advance if we assume there is no spirit. Think even about vitalism, yes? The claim—it’s not exactly dualism—vitalism is an approach even in biology that says there is such a thing as living matter, which is different from inanimate matter. Living matter is different matter; it has something extra in it, some vital component. Vitality means life; there is some vital component here. Today this is a dirty word among biologists. Vitalism means you’re benighted; I don’t know where you live, in the twelfth century BCE. But it’s a dirty word. Now even on the level—I’m not talking about spirit, I’m talking about the kind of matter biology deals with. That is a question in biology, not in philosophy. The existence of a spirit is not a question in biology; it’s a question in philosophy or metaphysics, I don’t know exactly where. But vitalism is a question in biology. And can physics and chemistry explain all of biology? I don’t know—maybe yes, maybe no—but that is a question in biology. Now methodologically, certainly. But does that mean that in reality this matter has no additional vital component? I don’t know—maybe yes, maybe no. In other words, a methodological statement does not necessarily have to describe reality itself. Sometimes it is very convenient to limit ourselves for methodological needs and deal with reality using a certain model that may be more limited than actual reality, but that is what we know how to handle. As the jokes about physicists always say, we want to understand how a donkey works. So let’s start with a point donkey. A donkey that is just one mathematical point mass, okay? That’s how physicists work. Meaning, in order to understand how a donkey works, you begin with a point donkey. After that we’ll also add a tail, legs, ears, volume, I don’t know what, more things and more things and more things, and maybe we’ll also succeed in understanding—but in the first stage we drastically limit ourselves so that we can advance. By the way, I think all the progress of modern science comes from the fact that science stopped wanting to understand, unlike Aristotle. Aristotle looked for explanations, essential explanations, and therefore he didn’t make progress. And modern science says: let’s make observations, let’s make generalizations on the basis of observations, I do not pretend to understand, I describe. No teleology, no explanations of why, no motivational explanations, nothing. Let’s stick to the facts. Okay? Now once you stick only to the facts without anything around them, you are limiting yourself. But that limitation is what enabled modern science to advance. Therefore, very often a methodological decision to narrow your field of concern, the toolbox you use, and so on, is a very wise decision on the methodological level. The problem is that once it succeeds too well on the methodological level, people tend to turn it into an essential claim. They say, well, if it worked methodologically then it’s probably true too. And here it may be true, but it may also not be true. And here one has to be very careful. So therefore, as a methodological assumption, I think one can speak about random components in evolution. Does that mean that there really are random components in the world? Ask physicists; they’ll tell you no. Usually the answer is no. By the way, there are studies of how, after all, in the DNA molecule or the molecules of life, which are very, very large molecules and in principle shouldn’t have quantum phenomena there, some people want to argue that there nevertheless can be changes there that are truly random, because this is quantum theory, on small scales, and so on. Usually—and here I maybe come to the issue of quantum theory—in quantum theory, yes, at least in the accepted interpretations, there is a random component. The current state does not define in a one-to-one way what will happen in the next stage. From one given present state there can be various results in the next stage. That is, the accepted interpretation of quantum theory is that quantum theory is not deterministic. There is randomness there, there is accidentality. But I think that does not change the basic picture I talked about, because… first, because that randomness occurs on the scale of individual particles, on very tiny scales. It does not happen on the scale of a micron already, or I don’t know, ten microns. In my doctorate I dealt with mesoscopic systems. Mesoscopic systems are systems of intermediate size in which one can still see quantum phenomena, but they are already large enough that these are large-scale quantum phenomena. The sizes involved there are on the order of a micron, and even that has to be prepared at very low temperatures and in a very special way in order for a quantum phenomenon to occur there. At all larger scales, or at temperatures—well, much less than room temperature, but still higher temperatures—there are no quantum phenomena. The quantum phenomena are erased. This happens for several reasons; one of them is the law of large numbers. Take a soccer ball, yes? If you have a particle, then in quantum theory we know there is an effect called tunneling. A particle can pass through barriers. A soccer ball can pass through the wall. Simply pass through. You’ll see it disappear here and appear there. Okay? That can happen according to quantum theory. But it will never happen. Why will it never happen? Because quantum theory says this about an electron, with an electron’s potential barrier. But a soccer ball… a soccer ball is a collection of so many particles that if you want to know what will happen to the soccer ball as a whole, you really need to talk about the law of large numbers. And the law of large numbers always behaves like the average, and the average is classical physics. Therefore the ball will not pass through the wall, ever. For the ball to pass through the wall, all its electrons would need together to go through in exactly the same—that is, they would all have to enter exactly the same phase that crosses the potential barrier. Now that doesn’t happen, because each one behaves differently; that’s the law of large numbers. Therefore overall the soccer ball will stay here. Okay? No. Maybe one of its particles might pass, but that doesn’t matter; in the macroscopic world the soccer ball stays here. Fine? So what does that actually mean? It means that in our world—and biology deals with the macroscopic world, not the microscopic world—there are no quantum phenomena. Not to mention that this also concerns world temperatures: room temperature, twenty degrees, zero degrees, fine, but not minus two hundred. Okay? Those are the temperatures relevant for quantum phenomena—almost absolute zero. Okay? Meaning, if the temperatures are somewhat higher and the scales are larger, there are no quantum phenomena. Now you want to tell me that all of evolution, with all its random components, is quantum theory? That’s crazy. To see a quantum effect in the macro world, you need to do an experiment that is almost impossible to carry out, yes? Some Schrödinger’s cat kind of experiment, or something like that—an experiment you need to prepare in advance and cool everything and arrange things in such a way that there won’t be distributions canceling each other out. You have to prepare the system so that it all has long-range correlations, yes? Synchronization, so that all the particles behave the same way. For example, if I could arrange this soccer ball so that all the particles had correlations between them—meaning that if something happens to one, it happens to all—then maybe the soccer ball would pass through the wall. Because if one particle passes through the wall and they are all in the same state, then they would all pass through the wall. But that doesn’t happen. At high temperatures it doesn’t happen, in large bodies it doesn’t happen. Okay? Therefore to assume that all the phenomena of evolution—or the phenomena of evolution in general—are the result of quantum randomness is simply completely implausible. There are no such phenomena.
[Speaker K] Can one say that the randomness in quantum theory isn’t really randomness, but as you said, maybe it’s because we don’t know?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] It’s possible, which is why I said it depends on interpretations. But the claim that in another hundred years we’ll understand it—that’s not so simple, because there are experiments that test exactly this point: whether it’s genuine randomness or not really randomness. That’s what’s called hidden variables, meaning concealed variables. In other words, there are people who want to argue that basically everything is deterministic; there are hidden variables that we can’t manage to measure, but they actually determine everything, and because we can’t measure them it looks random to us. Now there are all kinds of hidden-variable theories, all kinds of people who believe in them. Most of them have already been ruled out experimentally. Maybe not all of them, if I’m not fully up to date, but most of them have been ruled out experimentally. Experiments were done in order to rule out the existence of hidden variables. So this claim—well, in the future we’ll know—is not so simple, because there are arguments, meaning there are already attempts today to prove that even in the future we won’t know, meaning that it’s impossible—that this is genuine randomness. Okay? In any case, where were we? So that’s why I’m saying: yes, it’s true that quantum theory contains genuine randomness, but I don’t think that changes anything for our discussion.
Okay, so if that’s the case, then basically we currently have two claims facing one another. Either God created the world—this complexity doesn’t arise without a composing factor, the physico-theological argument—or, here you are, we have the Big Bang, abiogenesis, evolution, and true, there are still gaps, but with God’s help, so to speak, they’ll be closed in the future. Okay? If He dozes off for a moment and helps the guys who are against Him, then they’ll be closed in the future. Now if there really are no random components in the evolutionary process, that changes the picture a bit—though later I’ll say that even if there are random components, it doesn’t really matter all that much. And the claim is basically what I call the argument from the laws. Okay? Let’s think for a moment. I’ll describe to you an example from an article that appeared, I think, once in Nature, and ever since then everyone keeps recycling it, and every atheist website pounces on it like they’ve found treasure.
And they did the following experiment. Suppose monkeys are jumping on a keyboard—you know this one. It’s always the example people bring: monkeys jumping on a keyboard—what’s the probability that out comes a Shakespeare sonnet? No chance, right? A very tiny chance. Now let’s take a simpler case. A sentence like “to be or not to be.” It has fourteen letters, I think, if you compress the spaces and write it continuously. Fine? I randomly generate letters, fourteen letters. What’s the probability that I get exactly “to be or not to be”? Negligible. Right? Almost no chance. Okay? And that basically expresses the claim that something complex doesn’t happen by itself; someone assembles it.
Now look at the experiment our atheist cousins did. What did they do? They had a computer randomly generate letters—fourteen letters. And they asked how many random trials would be needed to get “to be or not to be.” They never got there. Meaning, you can’t get there. It takes an enormous number of trials. Okay, twenty-two to the fourteenth power. That’s a big number. In any case, that’s even without final-letter forms. Now they say: yes, but now we’ll do a different experiment. We’ll generate the first letter, and when we get the first correct letter, we stop and move on to generating the second letter. When we get the second one, we stop and move on to the third. And after that the fourth, and so on. And lo and behold, that did work for them, and not even over such a long period of time. Okay? So it worked.
In short, if there are some laws that guide the process, then you can shorten it dramatically. Now Dawkins and his whole gang claim that this argument—the physico-theological argument—doesn’t take into account the fact that evolution actually generates laws that moderate the slope of the steep hill—if you want to call it a steep probability slope, they moderate the slope of the hill. Why? Because every intermediate stage doesn’t wait for the later stages; if it has an advantage on its own, it survives. Right? We talked about that before. And now you begin the lottery from there already, until the next stage arrives that benefits you, and then it too survives. So it’s exactly parallel to this freezing of the letters each time, and therefore, basically, you see that before evolution this argument might perhaps have held water, but evolution showed us that even a process without a guiding hand can reach this, if the laws guide the process, then it can reach the result with a much higher probability or at a much faster pace.
Now when I first read this argument, I wanted to tear my hair out. Because I thought they had copied it from the University of Notre Dame—the Christians, the Christian academy. Because this is an argument that proves the existence of God, obviously, this experiment. Why? Because what does this experiment actually say?
[Speaker E] This experiment basically says: who caused it to stop after the first correct letter?
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Exactly. After all, “to be or not to be” can’t come into being by itself. That’s basically what you discovered, right? When can it come into being? If there is a programmer who made sure that it would come into being. Right? That’s what this experiment shows. Not that I need the experiment for that, but yes. I could have done a much better experiment: write a program that instructs the computer to write the words “to be or not to be.” That’s it. I’m telling you, it’ll happen in a second. Actually not a second—a millionth of a second. Okay? It’s really brilliant. Right? It’s just insane. I can’t understand these people. What? I think it was either in Nature or in Science, I don’t remember which one. Again, I didn’t read the original—maybe the original was a bit more intelligent. But the quotations people bring and the use they make of this experiment are simply unbelievable.
[Speaker C] Here basically they’re saying that with linear dynamics we don’t get it; with nonlinear dynamics, where probability isn’t memoryless, but in this case there’s memory—but I don’t necessarily need memory specifically.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Meaning, rather, I need there to be a hand that has a policy, that directs its policy. In this case it’s memory, because you want to build something with internal connection—a word out of letters. But it doesn’t matter; it could be something else too. As long as there’s a programmer involved and the computer isn’t just choosing letters at random, obviously you’ll reach the result much faster. But that is exactly what the physico-theological argument says: when you have something highly improbable, if it happened, then apparently there was a guiding hand here that moderated the slope of the steep hill. Right? That’s the claim.
Now what does this actually mean? Basically what it means is this. I call it the argument from the laws. What do I mean by the argument from the laws? You neo-Darwinians are basically saying: look, instead of assuming there is a God who created the world and so on, I’ll show you that this can happen spontaneously, completely naturally. Take the laws of nature—evolution, biology, physics, chemistry, whatever—I can show you that things like this arise without the involvement of a guiding hand. The question, of course, is who created or wrote those laws. After all, this happens within laws, a very, very rigid system of laws. This is what’s called the fine-tuning argument, the delicate calibration. In other words, there are certain values of the physical constants on which the very existence of life depends very strongly. If the values of some of these constants changed even a little, there’s no biology, no life, and maybe no chemistry either—it depends how much you changed them. In other words, it depends very sensitively on the values of the constants and the relations among them. Okay, without that there would be no biology, no life, nothing at all.
Now the question is—this is the fine-tuning argument, but I’m speaking more generally, not only about the values of the constants. Evolution takes place within a rigid set of laws: physics, chemistry, biology, and so on. Now when you tell me that something happens within the laws and therefore it is spontaneous and there is no guiding hand, then you’re saying: but there are laws here—who set the laws? That is the guiding hand. It’s just that the guiding hand did it by establishing a set of laws that would allow life to come into being spontaneously. If I were to randomize systems of laws—say I randomized systems of laws, or values of constants if you like—what’s the probability that I would get a system, or values of constants, that would eventually produce life? Zero. So now I move from the question “who created life?” to the question “who created the laws that created life?”
The example I once gave for this was: suppose I’m walking with someone and we come to visit a factory. And this factory operates amazingly. Every part, every person knows his role, there is perfect coordination among all the departments and officeholders and so forth. So I say, look, there must apparently be some genius manager for this factory. He explains to everyone, manages them, assigns the roles—a genius. The atheist walking next to you says, what, are you crazy? There’s no manager and no such thing. Look at the wall. Here on the wall there is a series of instructions telling each person what he has to do at every stage. That’s all—no need for any manager or anything.
What would you answer such a person? Who wrote the rules? Who wrote the rules on the wall? Why are rules a substitute for the claim that there is a manager? What do you mean? The rules—the point is to determine that these are the rules, to create laws of nature. Laws of nature—to determine that the laws of nature should be these and not others. He is the legislator, so to speak, by analogy. Okay? And then the question in such a situation is who created the laws. What you’re offering me is an explanation that I call an explanation within the laws. An explanation within the laws means: given the laws, you can show me that this happens spontaneously, and let’s even say with random components, doesn’t matter. Fine? But I’m asking how this framework of laws came into being, because without it this spontaneous process would not have led to life.
You know, there’s another example—I think Stephen Gould brings this example in one of his books. He says: think of a drunk leaving a bar, swaying all over the place, with no idea where he’s going. He’s walking on some narrow sidewalk; on one side there is a wall, on the other side a ditch. Now you understand that no matter what he does, in the end he’ll be in the ditch. So you see, you don’t need to assume that he is aiming to get to the ditch in order to assume that in the end he’ll be in the ditch. And again, this is an example brought to show why evolution makes God unnecessary. Honestly, these people ought to be hospitalized. If there is anything that proves the existence of God, it’s these examples. Who built this situation in which there is a ditch on this side and a wall on that side? Once the situation is like this, within it there can be a drunk who walks in a completely random way, because the laws or the circumstances ultimately dictate the result. It doesn’t depend on all this randomness. So that is exactly the question: who made sure that these circumstances would direct the emergence of life even though in the middle there are lots of random things? And now I claim that even if there are random components in evolution, that only strengthens the proof, not weakens it. Because it means that laws of nature were set here in such a way that even if things within them happen randomly, the result is known in advance, or the result is built in in advance. And therefore this is proof of the existence of God.
[Speaker J] Maybe other laws create other kinds of life? Again? I said maybe other laws of—
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Physics and chemistry could create other kinds of life? I’ll get to that claim.
[Speaker J] I’ll get to that claim.
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Not necessarily other kinds of life, but other kinds of complex entities. Yes, that—I’ll get to that. I’m not even sure anymore that I’ll get to it this semester, but that’s one of the objections I deal with later.
[Speaker E] But the claim itself is the fact—
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] That there are laws, not what they look like—the fact that there are laws. No, that there are laws, and that they are laws that create complex beings.
[Speaker E] After that it’s not—the fact that there are laws at all creates—it’s not that the fact there are laws means laws already, that’s an earlier claim. No, so I’m saying the one who created the—
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] The question of who created the laws is the translation of the physico-theological proof, only instead of asking a question within the laws, I ask a question outside the laws. You ask who created the laws, not how life came to be. How life came to be—you have an explanation: evolution, fine, I understand. But evolution assumes a set of laws, and I ask who created the laws.
Now, to close the circle, because we’re going out on semester break, I just want to explain why this argument from the laws is not God of the gaps. Maybe you’ll say, fine, so I have a difficulty: who created the laws? We’ll investigate more, and later we’ll understand who created the laws. Why is this not an argument of the God-of-the-gaps type? Okay? What I want to claim is this. There are two possibilities. Let’s think for a moment: what would the future explanation be for the emergence of the laws, or the values of the constants if you want? Fine-tuning usually speaks about the values of the constants. But it doesn’t matter. What could that explanation be? One of two things. Either that explanation will be some kind of general theory from which all the constants and all the other laws of nature can be derived—Einstein’s dream, yes, a unified field theory. But then that theory itself will also have constants. A scientific theory will also contain constants, and I will ask: who fixed the values of those constants? Who set that theory? Why should I care that you found a theory that explains these other theories? I’m talking about the last theory, the one you found, okay? There I will ask who created it. It won’t help me that it’s turtles all the way down. What is the explanation for that theory? That theory there.
Okay, and in the very end you’ll be left with some theory that is the most basic. What is the explanation for it? Someone can always come along and say that the final theory doesn’t need an explanation. It will be an inherent mathematical necessity, like pi. The ratio between the diameter and the circumference in a circle is pi. Someone can come and ask, wait a second, how did the Holy One, blessed be He, determine that it would be exactly pi? No—because in a circle it’s pi. The Holy One, blessed be He, didn’t determine it; that’s the nature of a circle. That’s just what circles are; there are no other circles. Okay? In other words, numbers in mathematics, unlike constants in physics, are not numbers that require an explanation—they just are what they are. The limit of one plus one over n, all to the nth power, as n goes to infinity, is e. Okay? It’s e not because the Holy One, blessed be He, decided it should be e, but because that’s what the numbers say. It’s not a law of nature, it’s a law of mathematics. Okay? The Holy One, blessed be He, did not decide that a thing and its negation cannot both be true. A thing and its negation cannot both be true because the negation is the opposite of it; they can’t both be true. In other words, logic and mathematics do not require an explanation.
Okay? And the claim that could perhaps serve as an alternative to the physico-theological argument is that the final theory we arrive at, from which everything comes out, will do so by logical derivation. It won’t contain constants whose values need to be fixed; everything will be logic. But notice that if this is true—if we arrive at such a theory—then it basically means that all our empirical science is a branch of mathematics. You don’t need to measure anything; in principle you can derive everything from logical and mathematical relations among things. That’s all. Nobody believes this today.
[Speaker L] But that’s what you’d have to get to, at the very least…
[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, everything—not leaving anything out. All the values of the constants would be derived from mathematical relations like pi and e. To know what pi and e are, you don’t need to measure anything. Okay, similarly, the claim would be that the physical constants are like pi and e. You don’t need to measure anything; they are the result of mathematical relations among things. It has to be that way; in every possible world it has to be that way. And then indeed there is no question of who created it and why it is so special and so on.
But then notice: this basically means that if the explanation—if the final explanation contains constants, then we have accomplished nothing. If the final explanation contains no constants, then we have arrived at the conclusion that all of physics and biology and chemistry are branches of mathematics. In other words, everything is a branch of mathematics. You don’t need to measure anything; it’s only relations among things, it’s mathematics. You don’t need to measure anything. Measurements are meant to give me the values of the constants—that’s why I make measurements. Measurements are to know the values of the constants. For pi I don’t need measurements; for pi you do a calculation, not a measurement. Okay? Same for e. And the claim is that the speed of light, the gravitational constant, and all those things are like pi. I don’t need measurements for that; it’s a branch of mathematics. That’s the claim.
Now that is so implausible that I think such a thing is not God of the gaps. In other words, if someone wants to claim that in the future we will arrive at such a state, where all our science is basically a branch of mathematics, then yes, he has an alternative. Of course, then we will have to ask ourselves—look, even with pi, or with the fact that the sum of the angles in a triangle is 180 degrees, that’s all in Euclidean space. In non-Euclidean space the sum is different. So in mathematics there is no reason why the sum of the angles in a triangle in Euclidean space is 180 degrees. Will I find here in the world that the sum of the angles in a triangle is 180 degrees? Here the question arises: who determined that this world would be Euclidean in the first place? Because that is a question in physics, not mathematics.
And therefore even if you find some mathematical model that describes everything, the moment you apply it to the world, it will always raise the question: and who made it so? Who made the world fit this model? And therefore I claim that the argument from the laws, or fine-tuning, is not a God-of-the-gaps argument. It’s not an argument based on a gap that is expected to be closed in the future. No. This gap, categorically, cannot be closed even in the future. That’s the claim. And therefore this kind of argument does not suffer from the problem of God of the gaps. Okay? That is basically the claim. Fine, we’ll stop here. Next week—in the next semester—I intend to continue, so I’ll give explanations, and there will be some people who weren’t here in the first semester, but please.