At the rabbis and the Knesset members. If the citizens start talking about it now, maybe in another 40 years it will happen.
I didn’t demand self-sacrifice, but if the whole problem is the Arabs, solutions can be found, and this is not danger to life that would permit canceling the Temple service.

Those who long for a Temple and sacrifices would do better to leave the Jews alone.
Only stupid idol worshippers think and believe that sacrifices do good and matter to God.
There is only one sacrifice in Judaism: the Passover sacrifice. All the rest are because of idolatry—let them not go grazing in foreign fields.

Thus says the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel: Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices and eat flesh. For I did not speak with your fathers, nor command them, on the day I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. But this is what I commanded them, saying: Obey My voice, and I will be your God and you shall be My people; and walk in all the way that I command you, that it may go well with you.

What amazing scholarship! Your name suits you… too bad not “the last scholar.” Because of your interpretation of the commandments, you abolish them.
Good thing you didn’t say the same about the Sabbath—that it’s only for rest, and whoever doesn’t need rest is exempt—or about forbidden mixtures, fringes, and whatever else.
Only fools think they can know for certain why God said something—maybe because they’re smarter than God—and so they also cancel His commandments.
But this has nothing to do with the substance of the question, because even according to you, if the daily offering is “not relevant,” Passover still is [why is that different? Maybe because you sold yourself, you’re afraid].
By the way, the people of Beitar were ashamed of sacrifices, and I identify with them, except that unlike them, I want to offer them because God matters to me more.

The Passover sacrifice is a remembrance of the Exodus from Egypt.
All the other sacrifices are so that the Israelites wouldn’t run off after other idols.
The whole matter of the Temple is a substitute for idolatry; it has no meaning in the Torah. It was decided after the Torah was given.

“The whole matter of the Temple is a substitute for idolatry; it has no meaning in the Torah. It was decided after the Torah was given.”
What does that mean? That it isn’t written in the Torah, or according to the Documentary Hypothesis? And how is it different from the other commandments?

There is no Temple in the Torah.
And in general, if there is one place especially prominent in the Torah in several contexts, it is Bethel, not Jerusalem.

All sacrifices are written in the Torah, and as far as I know, when it is forbidden to sacrifice on private altars, sacrifices are offered in the Temple.
What do you mean by what you’re saying?! Is there no Jewish law in Maimonides to build the Temple, or do you disagree with him??????!!!!!!
A decisor needs to explain his words clearly.

God and Moses our teacher are not interested in sacrifices.
There is no difference between the Golden Calf, where the Israelites offered all their gold, and ordinary sacrifices. It has meaning only from the standpoint of idolatry.
You want to sacrifice? Sacrifice yourself. In deeds.

When the Messiah comes, things will return to their place and the enactments of the Sages that were appropriate for their time will be nullified. And that projects onto all of Jewish law. It will happen when people begin to keep the Torah.
The same goes for the whole Torah of the priests. It is all meaningless. The tribe of Levi is a set-apart tribe in Jacob our father’s blessings, and it became holy in its own eyes. The main thing is that it at least partly did its job. It will be necessary to know which passages are missing from the Torah that Moses gave and which were added later. Not simple at all.

What a twisted interpretation. Stupid. You didn’t explain the verses. If there is a Jewish law to build the Temple, then we build it too, even if I don’t like what God says.

To the two goats on the bridge: dogmatism and insults are not substitutes for arguments. And if there are arguments, it’s preferable to give up the insults (though I have no objection whatsoever to a reasonable degree of firmness).
https://sites.google.com/a/savyonim.tzafonet.org.il/g1/home/13/15/mslym/mgr-mslym/sny-tyysym-l-gsr

I said that these laws, and many other laws too, (quite possibly all the laws) will be nullified when the Messiah comes.
And they will keep the Torah that Moses gave. And in the Torah that Moses gave there are no sacrifices: “For I did not speak with your fathers, nor command them, on the day I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

And the priests and Levites will lose the false status they bought for themselves: “Simeon and Levi are brothers; instruments of violence are their wares. Let my soul not enter their council; let my honor not be joined to their assembly, for in their anger they slew a man, and in their self-will they maimed an ox. Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce, and their wrath, for it was cruel. I will divide them in Jacob and scatter them in Israel.”

And the whole matter of sacrifices and the Temple will be null and void, like the dust of the earth.

“And Moses saw that the people were out of control, for Aaron had let them get out of control, to be a derision among their enemies.”

That’s already something else. No problem.
It has nothing to do with the issue at all!!!!!!!
The issue is whether today we have an obligation to build a Temple and offer sacrifices [so long as we have not received a different command]. The answer is yes. Certainly according to Maimonides. Why don’t people shout this in the streets? Why do they worry about this or that commandment and forget the most important commandment?!?!
P.S. If that’s what you meant from the outset, why did you make an exception for Passover? I’m inclined to think you changed professions and moved into arguing.

Not certain at all. According to Maimonides, in order for us to know that the Messiah who came is definitely the Messiah, he must build the Temple and gather in the dispersed of Israel. So if we build the Temple, what will become of the Messiah? Unless, of course, you are planning the destruction of the Third Temple so the Messiah can build a Fourth.

Why did I make an exception for the Passover sacrifice? In other words, you’re asking, “What is this service to you?” “It is the Passover sacrifice to the Lord, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt when He struck Egypt and saved our houses.”

And the Passover sacrifice is not connected at all to the Temple or to Jerusalem: “And it shall be, when you come to the land that the Lord will give you, as He promised, you shall keep this service.”

And this service is performed by each family in its home: “And you shall take a bunch of hyssop and dip it in the blood that is in the basin, and touch the lintel and the two doorposts with the blood that is in the basin; and none of you shall go out of the door of his house until morning.”

Obviously what the Torah says is not what was established as Jewish law in the exile period. But when the Messiah comes, everything will return to its place.

I’m amazed by the extraordinary scholarship I’m discovering here.
“‘And it shall be when you come to the land’”—it was said to build the Temple, and there to offer the Passover sacrifice and all the sacrifices, since it became forbidden to sacrifice on a private altar.
“‘And this service is performed by each family in its home…’”—do you think all the site’s readers are blind, that this is talking about the Egypt Passover?!?!
As for your sincere “concern” about “what the Messiah will do if we build the Temple,” I understand your feelings, but instead of worrying about his worries, it’s more important to fulfill the words of Maimonides:
“It’s a positive commandment to make a house for the Lord, prepared for offering sacrifices there, and for celebrating pilgrimage to it three times a year, as it says, ‘And let them make Me a sanctuary.’ And the Tabernacle that Moses our teacher made has already been explained in the Torah, and it was temporary, as it says, ‘For you have not as yet come…’”

It’s pretty clear that this is the Jewish law. What isn’t clear is why it isn’t being fulfilled. From the comments I feel the public thinks this is just some unprofessional curiosity, and I’m waiting for a more fitting response than mockery about goats.

If you want, you’re welcome to write a new Torah.
In our Torah it says: “And it shall be when you come to the land.”
In your Torah write: “And it shall be when you build the Temple.”

“And you shall keep this service” refers to the service of the Egypt Passover in the preceding verses, which are what one must keep—as you identified.

As for the Temple, that is not correct. There is no positive commandment for our time to build the Temple. The command was for the time of their entry into the land, after the response to the idolatry that infested the land they were entering: “And you shall tear down their altars, smash their pillars, burn their sacred trees in fire, cut down the carved images of their gods, and destroy their name from that place.”

All that was true for their time. What is true for our time in fighting idolatry is to tear down various foolish charlatan mystics who spread idolatry in crafty and twisted ways: “And the carved images of their gods you shall cut down.”

1. Are you ruling that the Egypt Passover applies for all generations? Do you have a source, or is that your own interpretation? Why then was the Egypt Passover never observed in the Land of Israel?!
As far as I know, it is forbidden to build on a private altar. And in the Talmud it says that the Egypt Passover was said only for its time.

2. Do you disagree with Maimonides?
Strange inventions need to be based on something, not on air.

You can disagree with Maimonides, with the Talmud, and with Moses our teacher, and also with God. Just specify whether you disagree, or interpret, or invent. Thank you very much.

This is what is written:
“And Moses called for all the elders of Israel and said to them: Draw out and take for yourselves sheep according to your families, and slaughter the Passover sacrifice. And you shall take a bunch of hyssop and dip it in the blood that is in the basin, and touch the lintel and the two doorposts with the blood that is in the basin; and none of you shall go out of the door of his house until morning. And the Lord will pass through to strike Egypt, and He will see the blood on the lintel and on the two doorposts, and the Lord will pass over the door and will not allow the destroyer to enter your houses to strike. And you shall keep this thing as a statute for you and your children forever. And it shall be, when you come to the land that the Lord will give you, as He promised, you shall keep this service. And it shall be, when your children say to you, ‘What is this service to you?’ then you shall say, ‘It is the Passover sacrifice to the Lord, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt when He struck Egypt and saved our houses.’ And the people bowed and prostrated themselves.”

A central part of the Passover sacrifice in Egypt was the blood on the lintel and not going out of the houses. To say that “this service” refers only to the sacrifice and not to the rest is forced. And you can see it in the second Passover: “According to all the statute of the Passover they shall perform it.”

And there is no connection at all between the Passover sacrifice and the Temple, as you can see in the second Passover: “But the man who is pure and was not on a journey, and refrains from offering the Passover, that soul shall be cut off from his people, because he did not offer the offering of the Lord at its appointed time; that man shall bear his sin.”
If you are pure and not on a journey (that is, at home) and do not perform Passover—karet. It has nothing to do with the Temple.

There is a positive commandment, but it is for the time of their entry into the land. And since today prayer is במקום sacrifices, then a synagogue is in place of the Temple. And later even prayer will no longer be needed. Then every Jewish home will be a Temple. And that does not contradict the words of Maimonides: “It is a positive commandment to make a house for the Lord prepared for offering sacrifices in it.” In the end, your house is enough too.

Where did I disagree? I said the Jewish law was written for its time. I’m not disagreeing with it. And if you want to read Maimonides carefully, maybe you can find hints of that. But it doesn’t matter that much. There is the Torah.

Your understanding of Maimonides—that sacrifices are a substitute for idolatry—is a mistaken and superficial understanding of Maimonides (even though Rabbi Kook the great wrote that way, it seems to be a superficial reading).
Maimonides himself writes that the main point of sacrifices is cleaving to and dedicating oneself to the Holy One, blessed be He, and idolatry is thereby erased. So Maimonides’ view that there is a commandment to build the Temple stands forever and does not depend on temporary reasons.

1. Does the Egypt Passover apply for generations?
No, and again no. Your words make no sense—are you bringing verses as proof that the Egypt Passover exists for generations?!?!
You didn’t leave the house on Passover [-before the coronavirus era…]?!?!
Was there ever any time when the Israelites observed the Egypt Passover???!!!
“Where did I disagree? I said the Jewish law was written for its time. I’m not disagreeing with it…. there is the Torah.”
I don’t understand you! In the time of the tannaim, did they not leave the house on Passover? After the Temple was destroyed, did they sacrifice on private altars?!?! Put blood on the doorposts?!?!
Spell out your strange position [do you think the fact that this wasn’t done until now was a mistake, or that the law was different then?]

2. All this still has nothing to do with the main discussion—I see no reason there should not be an obligation to build the Temple—Maimonides rules it as an obligation.
Why don’t people stir others up about this?!?! About the most important commandment?!?! And I expect an answer on this from the Rabbi as well, who for some reason this time decided to preserve the right to remain silent on anything connected to a substantive answer.

Dvir,
That sacrifices are a substitute for idolatry comes from the Torah, not from Maimonides. Maimonides did not write the Torah.
If the situation remains such that idolatry does not disappear and people need sacrifices, then if they build the Temple again there will also be another destruction.

Nur,
What is unclear? The Jewish people did not keep the Torah, and for that they were punished.

It says, “And you shall keep this thing as a statute for you and your children forever,”
and it says, “And you shall keep this service.”
This is talking about the Egypt Passover, which must be kept forever. And it is impossible to fulfill these commands without the Passover sacrifice.

If God wants a Temple, let Him send a prophet to instruct that and its new location that He chooses, and of course he will need to persuade the authorities to build a Temple.
Or take over the government yourself and build yourself a Temple. And offer yourself sacrifices.

God is not interested in it.

A dialogue of the deaf.
Do you need to sprinkle blood and not leave the entrance of the house?
If yes—1. why didn’t you do this important commandment [or did you?!]. 2. Say clearly that you disagree with the Sages and hold that the Egypt Passover was said for generations. There are countless proofs like the Sages on this issue. If I understand that this is your view, I’ll bring verses that say the Passover for generations is different from Egypt.
The crooked, baseless interpretation—“the Jewish people did not keep the Torah and for that they were punished”—doesn’t get you off the hook of facing reality.
If the commandments exist only when there is a Passover sacrifice, then in order to offer a Passover sacrifice you need a Temple, because it is forbidden to offer on private altars.

All this still doesn’t answer the clear ruling of Maimonides about the obligation to build the Temple, which for some reason the great decisor and Rabbi Michi are ignoring!!!!!!!!! Maybe really it’s nicer to deal with philosophical questions
than with slaughtering cows, where for some reason it isn’t clear why God didn’t say that in our time it isn’t needed.

Where is it written in the Torah that sacrifices are a substitute for idolatry?

For example:
“And they shall no longer sacrifice their sacrifices to the goat-demons after whom they stray.”
But it goes far beyond that. Anyone who has a real desire to slaughter a lamb is presumed not to be a Jew.

Nur,

Why are you dragging the Sages into this? What the Sages said is rabbinic 🙂
To know what the Torah said, read the Torah. Don’t ask me. And you’ll discover that there are verses in the Torah from which it follows that the Passover sacrifice includes all the other rules that Moses our teacher told them in Egypt.

And stop with your urge for idolatry. And the Passover sacrifice has nothing to do with the Temple.
Just as today people burn leaven near their homes, so too the Passover sacrifice should have been done by fire near the homes.

It’s also quite obvious (from how strong your urge is to slaughter sheep) that you haven’t the faintest idea why the Egypt Passover was needed in the first place.

Barely funny. Say clearly, “I disagree with the Sages and in my opinion sacrifices may be offered on private altars.” Even if what you say were true, see at length Rabbi Michi’s words about the formal authority of the Sages, according to which Jewish law is determined. The verses are also clearly that way.
“Far be it from us to rebel against the Lord and turn away this day from following the Lord, to build an altar for burnt offering, for meal offering, or for sacrifice, besides the altar of the Lord our God that is before His Tabernacle.”
“Only the people sacrificed on the private altars, because a house for the name of the Lord had not been built until those days.”

So even the righteous kings of Israel who abolished the private altars are just wicked men, and you alone are righteous.
But as stated, none of this is even needed [and it’s also not really so clear from the verses—you were right about that], since the authority of the Sages determines the Jewish law,
or perhaps you mean a gentile who wishes to offer a sacrifice, for whom a private altar is permitted [does he wish to offer because of the urge for sheep? Sounds like you understand that well].

The obligation to build a Temple too is determined formally, and it is also written in the Torah: “And let them make Me a sanctuary.”

P.S. I just don’t understand the outburst against the Temple, since the laws in the Torah are not understood [and Passover least of all], and there are many rabbinic enactments without which life would be easier.

I am not disagreeing with anyone.
You attribute to me things I never said at all, and in fact I think the opposite.
Which means you don’t understand what I’m saying. That’s what happens when there is such a strong urge to slaughter.

The Passover sacrifice is not private altars and not altars, and there is no connection. And because of your attraction to idolatry, you don’t grasp that.

If the laws of the Torah are not understood by you, then before you go to realize your idolatrous urge to slaughter sacrifices, start trying to understand them. “It is not too wondrous for you, nor is it far off.”

You’re right that there is no sacrificial offering in the Egypt Passover.
Today there is no Egypt Passover:
“Firstborn offerings, tithes, and the Passover offering are lesser holy things. Their slaughter may be anywhere in the Temple courtyard, and their blood requires one application, provided it is placed opposite the base. There is a difference in their eating: the firstborn is eaten by priests, and the tithe by anyone. They are eaten anywhere in the city, prepared in any manner, for two days and one night. The Passover is eaten only at night, and only until midnight, and only by those registered for it, and only roasted.”
The authority of the Sages is binding even if they erred in interpreting the Torah [personally I tend to think they did not err. They knew the interpretive rules a bit better than we do].

So too regarding building the Temple.

Hair-splitting and stupid accusations about cravings, without a logical explanation of what to do in practice, are not worth the time it takes to write them. Even if they come from the most bored person in the world.