Q&A: The Haredim Were Right
The Haredim Were Right
Question
Following the latest deal, and the understanding that apparently many soldiers fell in vain (obviously there were other goals besides toppling Hamas, such as restoring deterrence and stripping the enemy of capabilities. But in the final analysis, the main mission of toppling Hamas was not achieved because of pressure from the deep state and the Kaplanist left), is it reasonable to say that the Haredim were right in refusing to die in vain?
Answer
Are you seriously asking? It’s insulting to respond to this stupidity.
Discussion on Answer
Fighter
In everything you say, you are of course right, except for the part where this is connected to Bibi. Anyone else to Bibi’s left (Gantz, Eisenkot, etc.) would act the same way, and even worse. For them it is even ideological to endanger soldiers’ lives in order to protect the lives of the “uninvolved” Gazans. One of the current major generals or brigadier generals in the IDF even said that if they didn’t care about their lives, they would wrap up the story from the air.
An example from today—they place soldiers less than 10 meters from “uninvolved” people, and at any moment they could kill the soldiers. This is an example of an order that is manifestly illegal, plain and simple.
https://t.me/MyGPLANET/25967
For many, many years I’ve thought that it may actually be forbidden to enlist.
When I was in the army as a combat soldier, on the first day they explained to us that if there is an order over which a black flag flies, it is forbidden to obey it, and they emphasized this with examples and explanations.
Nowadays, over 90% of the army’s orders have a black flag flying over them, simply from the fact that Bibi is the “supreme commander,” and anyone with a brain and a bit of deep / psychological insight knows that he is a narcissist whose *only* interest is to stay in power, and that matters to him even more than soldiers’ lives (unfortunately), more than the victory of the State of Israel, or than any other value.
I was in Gaza in various operations, and I saw with my own eyes that they put soldiers at risk for things that are beyond reason; even the officers didn’t understand what was going on and were confused.
An ordinary soldier is not supposed to understand everything, but there is some basic logic that even the most ordinary fighter can understand (for example, if there is an order to enter a street that has not been cleared, when it could easily be cleared first [even without killing people, but by evacuating them in other ways], but they don’t want to because there are “uninvolved” people there, and because of that desire soldiers will *certainly* be killed and wounded; or placing soldiers right next to “uninvolved” people when there is a not-insignificant chance that those “uninvolved” people are actually, surprise surprise, involved. Or for example, they kept us in staging areas for days and weeks without even minimal protection from missiles, and soldiers died because of that again and again and again. And I could make a whole list of things that kill and wound soldiers with no logic behind them, and the only “logic” is that Bibi is trapped in a lot of illusions / “worldviews” [which of course are not real, value-based worldviews, but only inner psychological notions about how to keep ruling], and these trickle down into orders that kill and wound soldiers.
And as I wrote at the beginning, even without thinking independently, even if you are completely rigid and go exactly by army orders—they command on day one that it is forbidden to obey an order over which a black flag flies. And going on operations where soldiers next to you die and are wounded because of irrational things is an order over which countless enormous black flags are flying.