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On Drafting Yeshiva Students and Haredim – A Halakhic Perspective (Column 649)

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Dedicated to the memory of Rafael Kauders, of blessed memory, and to his dear family,

especially little Hillel, whose name accompanied me—through his grandmother Chayuta Deutsch—while writing the trilogy,

and whose eulogy at the funeral broke my heart.

Rafael, of blessed memory, was a reservist and a precious man who fell on Jerusalem Day

and was laid to rest yesterday in Kfar Etzion.

This weekend a rabbinic advertisement calling to draft all Haredim is being published:

The initiative comes from a former student of mine (Chagai Friedler of the Zionist Alliance initiative) at whose request I wrote a detailed halakhic ruling demonstrating that, according to halakha, there is no exemption from the army—neither for those studying nor for anyone else—even if he fears “spiritual deterioration.” The rabbis received the ruling and signed the call.

It is astonishing how, for roughly eighty years, thousands of Haredi Torah scholars have been misled by partial quotations taken out of context, while ignoring explicit sources over which there is no dispute. It’s not that they chose one interpretation among several; there is no such interpretation. Truly like children captured among the nations.

What is most infuriating is that the government, together with the Haredim, extends reserve duty days for everyone while exempting the Haredim themselves. Even the Haredim have not, until now, sunk to such moral lows. Shame!

The following ruling is based on Column 609, which dealt with this, but since a halakhic ruling was requested here, I elaborated more on the halakhic aspects. I bring it here in full, and it is also attached as a Word file for the convenience of anyone who wants to download and/or print and distribute.

“Shall your brothers go to war while you sit here?”

A Halakhic Ruling on Drafting Haredim and Yeshiva Students to the IDF

“Know that this matter did not warrant elucidation… but we were prompted to do so because many have erred in it…”

(Maimonides, beginning of Root 1)

Abstract. It will be explained here that there is a complete obligation upon every person of Israel, without exception, to participate in a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand. Thereafter, four principal categories of exemption-claims raised against this obligation are discussed, and we will show that they are baseless in themselves and, in any case, insufficient to remove the aforementioned obligation.

These days the public discourse turns to the question of drafting the Haredi public into the IDF, together with the question of drafting yeshiva students (these are, of course, two different questions). Because it is a sensitive political matter that touches all of us, the public discussion proceeds turbulently and often without focus. Some attack and others defend, this way and that, while the issue itself is left in the corner. People form positions on this grave matter by slogans and gut feelings, without grounding and without arguments that address the matter itself. For some reason, few decisors have dealt comprehensively with this issue and with a systematic examination of the arguments raised within it.

In this booklet we will conduct the discussion on the halakhic plane and in a focused manner, as is the way of Torah. We expect that readers will also treat the arguments substantively and examine them on their merits, as ought to be done with every halakhic and worldview question. Our belief is firm that every reader can and should examine the matters, agree or disagree, and arrive at his own conclusion. However, that conclusion should not depend on whether one defines oneself as “Haredi,” “Religious-Zionist,” or otherwise, but rather on a straight analysis of the arguments, sources, and sugyot in and of themselves.

The obligation to participate in defense and rescue

The starting point of the discussion is the moral and civic obligation of every person or group to bear the burden together with the other components of society, including the military burden. This is true for any society, Jewish or otherwise, for it is a basic moral principle. When Moses rebukes the tribes of Gad and Reuben for wishing to remain east of the Jordan, he does not mention the commandments of conquering and settling the land or any other halakhic duty; rather, he focuses on the moral obligation to shoulder the military effort of all Israel and not to shirk it and stay behind. He addresses them on the moral plane and says (Numbers 32:6): “Shall your brothers go to war while you sit here?!”

This obligation returns in the words of Deborah the Prophetess, who curses the people of Meroz for failing to join Israel in its war against Sisera (Judges 5:23):

“Curse Meroz, said the angel of the Lord; curse, curse its inhabitants, because they did not come to the aid of the Lord, to the aid of the Lord among the warriors.”

Rashi there (from the Mekhilta, Beshalach, Shirata §6) writes:

“To the aid of the Lord” — as it were: whoever helps Israel is as one who helps the Shekhinah.

This is explicit in Scripture, and of course it is also established in halakha. The obligation to save another person in danger is an absolute halakhic duty, derived from “Do not stand by your fellow’s blood.” Thus writes Maimonides (Laws of Murder 1:14):

“Anyone who can save and did not save transgresses Leviticus 19:16, ‘Do not stand by your fellow’s blood.’ So too one who sees his fellow drowning in the sea, or bandits coming upon him, or a wild beast coming upon him, and he can save him himself or can hire others to save him and did not save; or he heard that gentiles or informers are plotting evil against him or laying a trap for him, and he did not make it known to him; or he knows of a gentile or a tyrant who is bearing a grievance against his fellow and he can placate him on his fellow’s behalf and remove what is in his heart, and he did not placate — and all such things — anyone who does them transgresses ‘Do not stand by your fellow’s blood.’”

And of course, in the law of the pursuer (rodef), one is obligated to save the pursued from the hand of his pursuer, and he thereby violates also a negative commandment and a positive commandment if he fails to act (ibid. 1:15):

“One who sees a pursuer chasing his fellow to kill him, or after a prohibited sexual act to violate it, and he can save and did not save — he has nullified a positive commandment, namely ‘you shall cut off her hand,’ and transgressed two negative commandments: ‘your eye shall not pity’ and ‘do not stand by your fellow’s blood.’”

And in §16 there Maimonides writes about the weight and severity of the matter:

“Even though lashes are not administered for these negative commandments because they lack an act, they are severe; for whoever destroys one Jewish soul is considered as if he destroyed an entire world, and whoever sustains one Jewish soul is considered as if he sustained an entire world.”

All this concerns another who is being pursued. All the more so if you yourself are within the danger—for in our case the war is to defend the entire people dwelling in Zion (including, of course, the Haredim)—then a fortiori you are obligated to take part in the rescue.

And if the danger is to all Israel, this obligation is even more severe, to the point that although, as a rule, it is ruled that a person may not endanger himself to save another (see Hagahot Maimoniyot, Laws of Murder 1:14, and the commentators there; also Beit Yosef, Choshen Mishpat §426; Sema ad loc.; Responsa Radbaz III §1052, and many more), for the rescue of the public it is certainly permitted and even obligatory to do so. On this basis some later authorities explained the great praise of the “martyrs of Lod,” who gave themselves over to death to save Israel (see Pesachim 50a; Bava Batra 10b; Rashi to Ta’anit 18b; and others). This is the foundation of war to save Israel from an enemy at hand, for which every person of Israel is obligated to risk his life for the sake of the collective (as the Minchat Chinuch, Commandment 425 §1, writes that by the very nature of war there is danger and this does not exempt us, and this is not the category of “be killed rather than transgress”), as will be explained.

The starting point of the discussion

The very resort to sources and the multiplication of pilpulim in them is like one who asks about the laws of saving a life, where the very deliberation and inquiry is reprehensible (Jerusalem Talmud, Yoma 8:5):

“We desecrate the Sabbath for saving a life. One who is quick is praiseworthy; there is no need to seek permission from a court. One who asks is reprehensible, and one who consults is as if he sheds blood.”

Yet since these matters arise in public debate, there is no choice but to address the arguments and the sources themselves. We begin by explaining the very obligation to go to war, and thereafter we will discuss the exemption-claims and examine whether they have substance.

At the outset, it appears that the obligation to mobilize for a defensive war to save Israel from danger is a full obligation without dissent—by Scripture, reason, and halakhic sources—and in principle it applies to every Jew without exception. From here onward, one can adduce various sources and halakhic arguments to discuss this obligation in practice: who is obligated and who is exempt. But it is crucial to understand that the starting point of the discussion is that such an obligation exists; thus, the burden of proof rests upon one who wishes to exempt himself, not upon one who calls for fulfilling it. One who wishes to exempt himself must justify his position and behavior that depart from the aforementioned duty and show that his interpretation and rationale are indeed correct, for his claim is like one who says “I do not know whether I repaid you,” not “I do not know whether you lent me” (see Bava Kama 118a; explanation, e.g., in the Rif there and Taz, Choshen Mishpat end of §75, and others). This is a very important framing point, for it means that even if there is a halakhic or philosophical source or a rationale that can be interpreted in several ways, or if there are conflicting sources on some point, one cannot rely on them—“a doubt does not uproot a certainty.”

Dina de-malchuta and communal enactments

Background to the matter are also claims about the duty to obey governmental directives (Knesset, government, and army). Simply, there is an obligation here of dina de-malchuta,[1] for the king can send the people to war. As Nachmanides writes at the end of his additions to the negative commandments Maimonides counted, that a “king” for this purpose is “one in whose hand the people lie, to send them to the army,” and not necessarily a monarch in the strict sense (and similarly implied in Maimonides, Laws of Tithes 1:2).

True, some decisors cite the Ran (Nedarim 28a) and other commentators who wrote that dina de-malchuta does not apply in the Land of Israel, and this is commonly believed in the Haredi public. But as is known, these words are not agreed upon. I will not lengthen where many already have; I only point to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef (Yechaveh Da’at V §64), who brought many proofs that the decisions of the Knesset and Government of Israel have the force of dina de-malchuta. So wrote also Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv in the Rabbinate Court Rulings (vol. 6, p. 376ff.). Moreover, to rely on that Ran here is quite puzzling, for surely also kings of Israel had authority to send the people to war and levy taxes—otherwise how did the kings of Judah and Israel rule in their days?!

Further, even if there were no dina de-malchuta in this matter, communal enactments certainly apply everywhere. If the city leaders and community representatives decide to go to war when there is danger, they certainly have the authority and one must obey them even without dina de-malchuta. Therefore, even if there is no dina de-malchuta for the Israeli government, surely it is no less than communal enactments. One must remember that all citizens (including the Haredim, of course) receive services from the state, and therefore every citizen is obligated to obey its laws. One cannot demand the rights the state grants its citizens while not fulfilling the duties it imposes in return. Beyond all other problems, this is theft from the public.

At present the legal situation regarding drafting Haredim is indeed unclear, so perhaps one could have argued that there is no dina de-malchuta or communal duty to enlist, since the government itself exempted them. But about a year ago the previous Draft Law expired, and thus for about a year there has been a full legal duty to enlist, which the Haredim were unwilling to fulfill (and they even pressured the government to violate the law). Moreover, Haredi spokespeople announce that they will not obey any draft law the legislature may pass if it is not to their liking. Furthermore, even if a valid law is passed that discriminates among populations, decisors have written that dina de-malchuta does not apply when the regime discriminates among people, and they even called this “dina de-ḥamsanuta” (its source in the Ran, Gittin 10b, and many others), not dina de-malchuta, and of course it has no halakhic force.

Beyond all this, even if there were no monarchy and no halakhically legitimate authority in Israel, in fact there is now a situation of danger to life and we must defend ourselves. Therefore, discussions about authority are beside the point. Could one imagine that when Israel is in danger and has no halakhically authorized leadership, they must refrain from war and surrender themselves to death?!

In the Haredi public there are also claims of distrust in the regime (even though all Haredi parties are currently in the coalition and government) and in the army, and therefore they are unwilling to enlist and fight under their directives. The question is whether a public that refuses to enlist because it does not trust the government is also willing to forgo the protection of the army and security forces. Are they certain in their judgment that despite the experts’ opinions and the government, there is no current danger? Or perhaps they think the war will not help to escape it? Or maybe they have another way to confront the dangers? If not, then there is no room to refuse to join the fighting within the IDF and under government directives. At present this is the only way we have, and therefore even if they are right that the chosen path is not ideal, the alternative is inaction and surrendering ourselves to death. Can anyone seriously accept such a claim?! Never has there been a perfect and ideal government, but this is what we currently have. Just think—were the kings among the nations throughout history guided by better and more trustworthy motives? Was King Ahab a better king? And yet, dina de-malchuta gave all these rulers the authority to send their peoples (including the Jews living there) to war.

The status of our current wars: Are they a milhemet mitzvah?

Many discuss whether our wars are considered a milhemet mitzvah (commanded war) or not. This has consequences for who must go out and fight (for example, Torah students), and who sends the nation to war. It is occasionally claimed that nowadays we lack a Sanhedrin, the Urim and Tumim, and a prophet, and therefore it is questionable whether we can go to war. But for a milhemet mitzvah the king need not consult the Sanhedrin; he sends the people based on his judgment (see Maimonides, Kings 5:2), unlike a discretionary war that requires an approval process.

At the beginning of Kings and Their Wars, chapter 5, Maimonides enumerates three kinds of milhemet mitzvah:

“A king does not first wage war except a commanded war. And what is a commanded war? The war against the Seven Nations, the war against Amalek, and saving Israel from an enemy who comes upon them. Thereafter he wages a discretionary war, which is war with other nations to expand Israel’s borders and increase his greatness and renown.”

If indeed saving Israel from an enemy at hand is a milhemet mitzvah, then the kingdom sends the people to war according to its understanding. Indeed, Rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv (leader of the Haredi public until not long ago), in a response to Rabbi Yoel Bin-Nun, wrote about the Yom Kippur War: “And are we not engaged in a milhemet mitzvah?” (Kovetz Teshuvot I §243).

If it is a milhemet mitzvah, then all must go out and fight, as the Mishnah (Sotah 44a–b) teaches about those who return from the ranks, concluding:

“In what case are these words said? In discretionary wars. But in commanded wars, all go out—even a groom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy. Rabbi Yehudah says: In what case are these words said? In commanded wars. But in obligatory wars, all go out—even a groom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy.”

This is brought to halakha in Maimonides (Kings 7:4):

“After all those who return from the ranks have returned, they arrange the formations, appoint army officers at the head of the people, and station behind each formation strong and valiant officers with iron rods in their hands. Anyone who wants to flee from the war, they have permission to cut off his leg, for the beginning of defeat is flight. In what case are these words said—that these people are returned from the ranks? In a discretionary war. But in a commanded war, all go out—even a groom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy.”

And in Sotah 10a in the margin, the Arukh is cited regarding Asa, who took out a groom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy: “All the more so Torah scholars.” True, the passage there criticizes Asa for imposing corvée, but it seems clear that, if it is permitted to take out a groom and a bride, then surely Torah scholars as well. And so writes plainly the Keren Orah on that Mishnah, after citing the Arukh:

“It is implied here that in a commanded war all go out, and even Torah scholars must suspend their learning.”

So it appears also in the Jerusalem Talmud, Yoma 8:10 (“There is no ‘Rabbi’ and ‘great one’”), and so wrote several commentators on the Prophets cited in Shabbat Ha’aretz 13:12 and note 5 to 13 there in the Torah VeHa’aretz edition (Malbim; Metzudat David; Ralbag; and Radak to Judges 5:14–15).

It is fitting to add here the words of two leaders of the Haredi community in Israel—the Ḥazon Ish and Rabbi Yitzchak Zev (the Brisker Rav)—in their glosses on the Talmud (not polemical writing).

The Ḥazon Ish, Orach Chayim §114 subsec. 3, wrote:

“It seems that what the Mishnah states—that in a commanded war even a groom goes from his chamber—does not speak of a time when their help is needed for victory in war, for it is obvious that for danger to life and saving the people, all are obligated; rather, even when there is need only for a certain number (and most of their wars were such that there was room among the fighting forces only for a certain number), it is permitted to take from them even a groom from his chamber, for those who return have no right in a commanded war. So too, in a discretionary war they are exempt only when Israel’s victory does not depend on them, for the number of soldiers required is sufficient without them; but if there is need of them for victory, they are obligated to come to their brothers’ aid, and the matter becomes like a commanded war. But this is only when they have already entered the war; at the outset, one does not enter a discretionary war if it is impossible to fight without those who would otherwise return. And after they have entered a discretionary war with a given force, if they see they need to add soldiers, they do not take those whom we were commanded to send back if the required number can be met without them. And even though now enemies have come upon us—and had they come upon us initially, it would have been considered a commanded war—since we entered initially into a discretionary war, those who return have their right so long as we can fight through others. But if their participation is required for victory, even a groom from his chamber goes out, even though they had entered initially a discretionary war.”

According to him, in any war once we are already in it—even if it is, in definition, a discretionary war—if victory requires taking those who were otherwise exempted and everyone else (including a groom and a bride), we take whoever is needed. The difference in a commanded war is that everyone is taken even if they are not required for victory.

True, the Ḥazon Ish speaks about those who return from the ranks and about a groom and a bride, but he does not explicitly address Torah scholars. One could say that we never found any exemption for Torah scholars, and thus he did not need to address them. Moreover, he writes that where there is danger to life we do whatever is necessary, without distinction between persons, which is obvious by reason. Below we will return to the discussion about the exemption of Torah scholars, but first we will discuss the participation of the tribe of Levi in war.

Maimonides writes at the end of Laws of Shemitah and Yovel (13:12):

“Why did Levi not merit a portion of the Land of Israel and its spoils with his brothers? Because he was set apart to serve the Lord, to minister to Him, and to teach His upright ways and righteous judgments to the many, as it says: ‘They shall teach Your judgments to Jacob and Your Torah to Israel.’ Therefore, they were set apart from the ways of the world: they do not wage war like the rest of Israel, nor do they inherit or acquire for themselves through the strength of their bodies. Rather, they are the Lord’s legion, as it says: ‘Bless, O Lord, his army (ḥeilo).’ And He, blessed be He, provides for them, as it says: ‘I am your portion and your inheritance.’”

We have found that, according to him, the tribe of Levi “does not wage war like the rest of Israel.” But it has already been noted that he did not write that they never wage war, rather that they do not wage war like the rest of Israel. That is, when they are needed, they certainly participate in war (but the order of precedence is that they are the last to go).

Indeed, in the Ḥiddushei HaGriz to Sotah 44b (from the notes of his son, Rabbi Dov), he proves this from the gemara there:

“‘These do not return…’: one who remarries his divorcee, a widow to a high priest, a divorcee or chalutzah to a common priest, etc. Maimonides (Kings 7:8) rules like the Mishnah that one who betroths a woman prohibited to him, such as a widow to a High Priest and a divorcee or chalutzah to a common priest, etc., does not return. It is evident that priests go out to war. And here we speak of a discretionary war, for in a commanded war all go out, as the Mishnah later (44b) says: all go out—even a groom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy. Therefore, it is evident that priests go out even in a discretionary war.”

Maimonides himself rules that priests go out even to a discretionary war, and of course to a commanded war. All the more so for the rest of the tribe of Levi. This can be reinforced from the Hasmonean wars, which were led by a family of High Priests who went to war and led it. Another proof comes from Kiddushin 21b:

“It was asked: A priest—what is his status regarding a beautiful captive? Is this a novelty that applies equally to a priest and an Israelite? Or perhaps priests are different, since more commandments were increased upon them? Rav said: permitted; Shmuel said: prohibited.”

Here too, the simple assumption is that priests participate in war; otherwise the question of a beautiful captive would not arise for them.

How does this conclusion fit with Maimonides’ words above, that the tribe of Levi does not go to war? The Brisker Rav explains:

“It seems that when Maimonides wrote that the tribe of Levi does not wage war like the rest of Israel, his intention was not to remove them entirely from going to war. It appears that when they are needed during a time of war, they too would go out. His main intent is that they are not sent out initially to enter war like all Israel, since they are the Lord’s legion and were set apart to serve the Lord and to minister to Him and to teach His ways and judgments. But certainly, if priests are needed for waging war, they too would go out. If so, nothing is difficult about what Maimonides wrote—that a High Priest who betroths a widow and a common priest who betroths a divorcee do not return from the ranks—because indeed they are not removed entirely from going to war.”

Thus, his words accord with the Ḥazon Ish above: whenever they are needed for victory, certainly the tribe of Levi—including the priests—go out to fight. And what about Torah scholars? We will now explain.

Are Torah scholars exempt from war according to Maimonides?

First, it seems that someone who neglects the commandment of war for the sake of Torah study is no different from someone who neglects other commandments in order to study. Regarding that, Maimonides writes (Laws of Torah Study 3:3–4; source: Bavli Kiddushin 40b):

“3. There is no commandment among all the commandments that is equal to Torah study except Torah study itself, for study leads to action; therefore study precedes action in every place.

4. If one had before him the performance of a commandment and Torah study—if the commandment can be performed by others, he should not interrupt his study; but if not, he should perform the commandment and return to his study.”

At first glance, this is puzzling: since Torah study is greater than all commandments, why should it be deferred to them? The early authorities already addressed this and explained (see, e.g., the Meiri ad loc.; Kehalot Yaakov, Shabbat §11; and others) that the purpose of learning is to fulfill; thus it is not reasonable that because of learning one would refrain from fulfilling. There is more to elaborate, but this is not the place. In any case, we learn that Torah study exempts from other commandments only when others can perform them. That is not our situation. And about one who refrains from a commandment because he is learning, it is said (JT Shabbat 1:2):

“One who learns not in order to do—it would have been preferable had he not been created. And Rabbi Yohanan said: One who learns not in order to do—it would have been preferable had his placenta been turned over on his face and he had not come into the world.”

Indeed, we find that Joshua bin Nun and his disciples, and likewise King David and his men, went out to war, and they did not think that their learning exempts them from war. And about Joshua, the Sages expounded (Megillah 3a) in the rebuke of the angel of the Lord to Joshua in the Jericho war: “Yesterday you neglected the afternoon tamid; and now, you have neglected Torah study.” Rashi explains: “And now, which is night, you should occupy yourselves with Torah, since you do not fight at night.” From this, Rabbi Zevin deduced in his well-known letter published during the War of Independence: crystal-clear words—“since you do not fight at night”! Thus, when they are fighting, it is obvious that Torah study is suspended when needed. Also in the war against Midian it is said: “And Moses sent them, a thousand from each tribe, to the army—them and Pinḥas” (Num. 31:6). The Sages say: “Them—this refers to the Sanhedrin” (Sotah 43a). And in the Sifra it is brought that the tribe of Levi went to the war against Midian.

True, in Megillah 16b we find: “Rav Yosef said: Torah study is greater than saving lives.” But decisors have already written that this does not pertain to the obligation to suspend Torah study to save lives (see Drisha, Yoreh De’ah §251; Taz ad loc. §6), for we suspend study for any other commandment—how much more so for saving lives.

In the next halakha there (Shemitah and Yovel 13:13), Maimonides writes:

“13. Not only the tribe of Levi, but any person from among the inhabitants of the world whose spirit moved him and whose mind understood to set himself apart to stand before the Lord, to minister unto Him and to serve Him, to know the Lord, who walked uprightly as God made him, and cast from his neck the yoke of the many calculations that people seek—this person is sanctified as holy of holies. The Lord will be his portion and inheritance forever and ever; He will provide his sustenance in this world sufficiently, as He provided for the priests and Levites. As David, peace be upon him, said: ‘The Lord is my allotted portion and my cup; You support my lot.’”

Many have cited this as the source for the great novelty that all Torah students and scholars have the status of the tribe of Levi, and from here they sought to exempt all those studying Torah—yeshiva students and kollel men—from going out to war. But even these words are refuted from within, at least for four reasons:

* First, Maimonides’ practice is to insert aggadic passages at the ends of sections of halakhot, and it is perilous to derive halakhic conclusions from them. On this point see the words of Rabbi Aharon Lichtenstein in his book By His Light, who writes regarding this passage in Maimonides (pp. 210–211):

“It is reasonable that we have here a moral exhortation—parallel to the endings of several books in Mishneh Torah—worthy, of course, of its full weight as such (after all, note who signed it); but it is not to be defined as a clear halakhic ruling. The passage presents an awe-inspiring and colorful appreciation of a sublime personality, but it does not dictate how she and others must act. Let us ask ourselves honestly: would a God-fearing ben Torah rely upon such a passage to exempt himself from tzitzit or shofar? … Even if we were to assume that Maimonides’ words unequivocally imply a clear and sweeping exemption, their practical import would still be quite limited. We have not yet clarified who is eligible for it. A Levite is defined by a well-documented lineage; but a ben Torah compared to him is defined by an array of spiritual traits, for which Maimonides set a very high bar. He paints an ideal portrait of a man entirely free of personal ambition and any trace of self-interest… To what segment of the Torah community… does this exalted depiction apply? … Can a person who negotiates terms of employment—perhaps even a dowry or ‘kest’—look in the mirror and declare to himself that he ought not enlist because he has been ‘sanctified as holy of holies’ in Maimonides’ sense?”

* Second, Maimonides wrote this only about those “whose spirit moved them” and who “cast from their neck the yoke of the many calculations that people seek.” Can one say that every kollel man or yeshiva student deserves such lofty crowns?! How many of them do not go to the doctor when a family member is ill? How many do not worry about their livelihood but place their trust solely in God? How many do not call the police when attacked or when a burglar breaks in? How many do not bring someone to a rabbinic court when their rights are violated? This is what I would expect of one who has cast off all worldly calculations and only engages in Torah and is protected by it. Of such a person, perhaps one could say that he is not obligated in the hishtadlut of fighting in the army even when he and all of us are in clear and present danger.

* Third, in this halakha Maimonides wrote nothing about waging war (as he did above regarding the tribe of Levi); rather, he wrote that God will provide his sustenance in this world like the priests and Levites. So explains Ner Mitzvah to Commandment 11, note 55 (cited in Shabbat Ha’aretz ad loc., note 6).

* Fourth, we have seen above that even the tribe of Levi itself is not exempt from war when they are needed to achieve victory. Regarding Torah scholars who are likened to the tribe of Levi we apply the rule: “It suffices to derive as much as is in the source.”

Incidentally, it seems that Maimonides’ intent here is even to gentiles, for he wrote “any person from among the inhabitants of the world” (see, e.g., Laws of Tefillin 10:11; Laws of Sanhedrin 12:3; and Bavli Menachot 86a). So at the end of Shabbat Ha’aretz, Rav Kook concludes, and so in Rabbi Kafih’s commentary on this halakha. If so, it does not appear to refer specifically to Torah learners, nor to an exemption from Israel’s wars.

Beyond all this, if indeed the law is that Torah scholars are exempt from war, Maimonides should have brought this law in Laws of Kings, where he deals with the laws of war, and not in Laws of Shemitah and Yovel as a merely aggadic note. True, one might note that he also did not bring there the (previous, clearly legal) halakha of the tribe of Levi’s not “waging war like the rest of Israel.” We saw that they are not entirely exempt, but there is a law that they are not sent like others. Seemingly, this law should have been in Laws of Kings and was not. This requires investigation.

On the margins of the matter we note Maimonides’ well-known words in Laws of Torah Study (3:10):

“Anyone who resolves to occupy himself with Torah and not do work and thus be supported by charity profanes the Name, disgraces the Torah, extinguishes the light of religion, brings evil upon himself, and forfeits life in the World to Come; for it is forbidden to benefit from the words of Torah in this world. The Sages said: Whoever benefits from the words of Torah forfeits his life in the world. They also commanded: Do not make them a crown with which to magnify yourself, nor a spade with which to dig. They further commanded: Love work and hate rabbinic authority. Any Torah that is not accompanied by work will end in neglect and lead to sin; and in the end, this person will rob others.”

True, the Kesef Mishneh there writes that many tried and it did not succeed for them—meaning that it is appropriate to grant an exemption from livelihood, and perhaps also from the army (see below), to learners so they can grow in Torah. But clearly, even he agrees this is only a bedi’avad (after the fact) arrangement. Regarding exempting learners from service so that they may grow in Torah, as per the Kesef Mishneh, see below §3.

One might wonder how these words of Maimonides themselves accord with his words in Shemitah and Yovel. It seems simple: In Shemitah and Yovel he speaks about people like Ben Azzai or Rabbi Shimon bar Yoḥai, who were exempt from commandments because they clung to Torah (regarding marriage and procreation, see Maimonides, Marriage 15:3; Shulḥan Arukh, Even Ha-Ezer 1:4; and regarding prayer, see Shabbat 11a; and in the JT it seems even for Shema—which all agree is a Torah obligation. See also Tosafot s.v. kan to Mo’ed Katan 9b). This is because they truly cast off all worldly calculations, do not engage in livelihood and hishtadlut, and hand themselves over entirely to God. They are exempt from commandments, and for them even a passing commandment does not override their Torah study. Of such people Nachmanides also wrote his well-known words (Leviticus 26:11): “When the Lord is pleased with a man’s ways, he has no business with physicians.” But, as stated, such people scarcely exist—neither then nor now. This is merely an abstract statement and an ideal model. By contrast, in Laws of Torah Study Maimonides speaks of those who are not like Ben Azzai and Rashbi—who do in fact engage in livelihood and hishtadlut, like all of us—but think to derive their livelihood from Torah study. These, in his view, profane the Name, disgrace the Torah, and extinguish the light of religion, and in the end they will rob the public; and on this the Kesef Mishneh also comments as above.

Thus, it seems very difficult to rely on his words in Shemitah and Yovel for all learners today and in general. Who among them—if any—deserves the lofty descriptions cited above?! And only such are included in Maimonides’ words in Shemitah and Yovel. Moreover, even if they are included, we saw that even the tribe of Levi itself has no absolute exemption from war. See also Responsa Tzitz Eliezer III §9, ch. 1.

The definition of “saving Israel from an enemy at hand”

There is another type of milhemet mitzvah: war to conquer the land (per Nachmanides’ addition to the positive commandments omitted by Maimonides). One might challenge this according to Maimonides, especially in our time. But our concern here is not a war to conquer the land, but a war of rescue from threat—i.e., saving Israel from an enemy at hand. This is the war being waged today in Gaza (“Swords of Iron”), and so were most of our wars in the past.

Regarding a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand, one must ask whether this is indeed a regular milhemet mitzvah. We saw above that at the beginning of Kings 5, Maimonides includes it as a commanded war together with the Seven Nations and Amalek. But in the next chapter he lists only the other two types and does not mention it (6:4):

“If they did not make peace, or made peace but did not accept the Seven Noahide Laws, we make war against them and kill all their adult males, and we plunder all their property and their children. We do not kill a woman or a minor, as it says, ‘and the women and the little ones’—this refers to male minors. When do these words apply? In a discretionary war against other nations. But for the Seven Nations and Amalek, if they do not make peace, we leave no soul alive, as it says, ‘so shall you do to all…’—‘only from the cities of these peoples’—‘you shall not allow a soul to live.’ And thus it says regarding Amalek, ‘You shall blot out the memory of Amalek.’ And from where do we know that he speaks only of those who did not make peace? As it says, ‘there was no city that made peace with the Israelites, except the Hivites from Gibeon—everything they took in war—for it was from the Lord to harden their hearts to go out to war against Israel, in order to destroy them.’ From this we infer that they sent them for peace and they did not accept.”

Why is saving Israel from an enemy at hand not mentioned here as well? It seems that even there, we do not call to them for peace since there is no time and we must strike first. Still, Maimonides does not address it here at all, and this is likely not by chance.

By reason, even according to Maimonides, saving Israel from an enemy at hand is not a discretionary war, of course, but it is also not the same as a commanded war—at least not in the same sense as Amalek and the Seven Nations. First, only these two types are cited in the Talmud as commanded wars; saving Israel from an enemy at hand was added by Maimonides (perhaps on his own). By reason, there is a big difference between these two and the third. The purpose of the wars against the Seven Nations and Amalek (and also the conquest of the land) is the fulfillment of a commandment; the entire motivation to wage them is the command and the Torah’s instruction. Without it, we would not have thought to do so (except perhaps as a discretionary war). Therefore, in those wars, the Torah sets the parameters—whether, how, and when we go out, who goes and who does not, and how the war is conducted. And therefore when the halakhic parameters are not met, we forego the war. But in a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand, the war is undertaken to defend and protect our lives, and of course we would do so even without any commandment. The motivation to fight here is not to fulfill a commandment but to defend our lives. Certainly, there is an aspect of safeguarding life and “you shall live by them,” and also rescuing the pursued, as above; but the war is not conducted for the sake of the commandment and by its force. Unlike the wars of Amalek and the Seven Nations, here—even if there were no commandment—we would fight to defend ourselves. Consider: before the Hasmonean court expounded, “‘Until it is subdued’—even on Shabbat” (Shabbat 19a), did Jews not fight on Shabbat and instead surrender themselves to death?! It is most implausible. When there is danger to life, one fights—even on Shabbat.[2] But when it is not Shabbat, and after the Hasmonean court’s exegesis even on Shabbat, surely we go out to fight to defend ourselves without any other parameters and without any command.

Indeed, in the Jerusalem Talmud (Sotah 8:10) it appears that they interpreted “obligatory war” in Rabbi Yehudah’s words in our Mishnah thus:

“Rabbi Yehudah would call ‘discretionary war’—such as when we go against them. ‘Obligatory war’—such as when they come against us.”

When the nations come upon us, this is an obligatory war; it is more stringent than a commanded war and all go out to it (and according to the Sages, all go out to it as well, of course).

A supporting indication comes from Maimonides’ introduction to the Book of the Commandments, where he writes:

“It is also known that warfare and conquest of the land are only through a king and by the authority of the Great Sanhedrin and the High Priest, as it says, ‘He shall stand before Eleazar the priest’ (Numbers 27:21). And since all these matters are well known to most people, therefore any positive or negative commandment dependent upon sacrifices or services, or the judicial executions, or the Sanhedrin, or a prophet and king, or a commanded war or a discretionary war—I will not need to say in each: ‘This commandment applies only when the Temple stands,’ since this is clear from what we have mentioned. But anything in which there might be doubt or error, I will note it, if God wills.”

From his words we see that a commanded war does not apply in our time. If saving Israel from an enemy at hand is a regular commanded war, by reason it is obvious that it applies also now when Israel is under threat. We saw that Nachmanides wrote that whoever can send the people to war has the status of a king. Seemingly, it follows that saving Israel from an enemy at hand is not a commanded war; thus Maimonides can write that the law of a commanded war does not apply in our time. But the laws of saving life certainly do.[3]

The conclusion is that saving Israel from an enemy at hand is not exactly a regular commanded war, but an act of saving life. Consequently, it is clear that its parameters are determined by the necessities of saving life, not by the laws of war. Hence, everyone needed for victory certainly goes out to fight. There is no need here to resort to sources about “a groom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy,” discussions of who goes to war and who is exempt, the disputes among the Tannaim (obligatory war or commanded war), or who sends Israel to this war. Whatever is needed to be saved is done, and anyone needed to be saved goes out to war. The Ḥazon Ish and the Brisker Rav, cited above, spoke of this: anyone needed for victory goes out—even in a regular commanded war—despite their dealing with Amalek or the Seven Nations, where there is also the possibility of foregoing the war (and not fulfilling the commandment) when certain halakhic conditions are not met. But in our case—war to save Israel from an enemy at hand—we have no option not to fight. Our lives are in danger, and we are compelled to fight by the laws of saving life. Thus the case resembles saving the life of an individual that overrides the entire Torah without any fence or restriction: whatever is needed to be saved. And when it is the saving of the many—how much more so—that everyone needed for victory must go out to fight. Here, there is certainly no room to speak of exemptions for those who return from the ranks, the tribe of Levi, Torah scholars, a groom and bride, etc. At most one could speak about the order of mobilization—who before whom—but in the end, the needs of the war determine who goes out to fight; and if all are needed, all go. As noted above, here there is no room to speak of conditions for going to war (Sanhedrin, kingship, Urim and Tumim, etc.), for even in the absence of these, we have the right and duty simply to stand for our lives, to fight, and to do whatever is necessary to be saved. No one would demand of us to surrender ourselves to death because certain halakhic conditions are not met.

Any claim that if some condition is not met we are forbidden to go out and fight, or forbidden to do what is necessary to win; and any claim of exemption for certain persons because of the Torah’s laws of war—contradicts the core law of saving life, which overrides the entire Torah. And as our teachers taught (JT Yoma 8:5):

“It was taught: One who is quick is praiseworthy; one who asks is reprehensible; one who consults is as if he sheds blood. It was taught: In any matter of danger, do not say: ‘Let gentiles or minors perform it’; rather, even adult Israelites [must do it].”

So too in Bavli Yoma 84b; and this is brought to halakha by Maimonides (Shabbat 2:30). These things are ancient.

After all this, the determinations of whether there is danger to life here and what is required to address it are factual–security assessments, not halakhic ones, and they establish the duty to fight and upon whom it falls. These determinations are entrusted to the political and security leadership. In our approach, the traditional sources and arguments commonly invoked regarding mobilization are not relevant to a war of saving Israel from an enemy at hand. This seems also to underlie the reasonings of the Ḥazon Ish and the Brisker Rav that we saw—and the matter is simple.

Note that even for rescuing property in towns near the border one desecrates Shabbat, as ruled in the Shulḥan Arukh (Orach Ḥayim §329:6; source: Eruvin 45a). One can discuss whether this is due to future risk to life or even for the property itself; this is not the place. Rabbi Bin-Nun added in his letter: “Everyone knows what happened in the towns near the border—Sderot and Ofakim—on Shemini Atzeret of this year.”

Consequences: saving Israel from an enemy at hand—between saving life and commanded war

If so, our conclusion is that saving Israel from an enemy at hand is not a regular commanded war but an act of saving life. We saw one implication: all halakhic parameters are irrelevant here. Now we will see two more implications.

Is it permitted for a Jew living in the Land to flee because of the danger? One can criticize such behavior, but the question here is purely halakhic. If it were a commanded war, it would be forbidden to flee; he must participate with all Israel in the war as part of the commandment that obligates him. But if this is a matter of saving life, there is room to permit him to flee, as in any case of saving life. The law of the pursuer requires a person to save also his fellow, not only himself—but only when the rescuer himself is not endangered; a person need not endanger himself to save his fellow (and according to most decisors it is even forbidden). One could counter that the danger is to the public, and as part of the public he must remain and help fight; but this is not a necessary logic.

Now to the second implication. Must a Jew living abroad come to the Land and fight together with us in a war of saving Israel from an enemy at hand? If it were a commanded war, then clearly all must come. This would be the case, for example, in a war to conquer the land (per Nachmanides above). But if we are dealing with the laws of saving life, they obligate those who are in danger. As we saw in the previous implication, there is no obligation upon a person to endanger himself to save others. Indeed, we do not find decisors who claim that Jews abroad must come and participate in the war. From here is proof that even those who speak of saving Israel from an enemy at hand as a commanded war cannot mean it in its regular sense. The meaning is that it is not a discretionary war, but it is also not a regular commanded war; it is an act of saving life, and the laws of saving life apply. It was noted to me on my website that Rabbi Hershel Schachter, President of Yeshiva University in New York, instructs questioners that in such a situation every Jew abroad must go up to Israel and join the fighting. Even so, we have not seen such an instruction elsewhere, and this itself indicates that presumably decisors hold that today this is not a commanded war but a matter of saving life.

Present and future danger

Claims are raised that this is about preventing a future danger and therefore it should not be treated as saving life. When the risk materializes, we will need to enlist and confront it. This appears to be grounded in the continuation of the sugya in Sotah 44b:

“The dispute concerns reducing idolaters so that they will not come upon them. One master calls it a commanded war, and the other calls it discretionary. The practical difference: one occupied with a commandment is exempt from another commandment.”

This deals with a war we initiate against the gentiles in order to reduce the future danger they pose to us, and there is a dispute whether this is discretionary or commanded. But there the danger is not tangible; it is only a precautionary step. So too we saw in the JT Sotah 5:10 cited above, which distinguishes between when we go upon them (a preemptive war) and when they come upon us—which is an obligatory war to which all go out.

In our case, even if our situation were a future threat (which it truly is not), one who does not enlist and train now to prepare himself for war and to confront future threats will not be able to take part in the fighting when it arrives. A modern army and warfare are not conducted like battles of communities and tribes in antiquity. A modern army is a cumbersome and complex organization that requires long-term preparation, training, and organization, and constant readiness for any threat, especially when the threats facing us are very real. Therefore, enlistment must be ongoing—not only when the threat arises in practice.

It is fitting to cite Maimonides’ “Epistle on Astrology” (Iggerot HaRambam, ed. Rabbi Shilat, p. 480):

“And this is what destroyed our kingdom and ruined our Temple and brought us to this point … that we did not occupy ourselves with learning warfare nor with conquering lands.”

We note that in towns near the border, the common explanation for the permission to desecrate Shabbat is future risk. Hence, for tangible public dangers, even future dangers count as a threat justifying desecration of Shabbat.

Interim conclusions

We learn that according to all opinions, the wars in which we are engaged have at least the status of a commanded war to which all must go by law—and perhaps even more (as we saw, that they have the character of saving life, to which all go for reasons of saving life, irrespective of the laws of war). We saw that the claims for exemptions for this or that category are incorrect in themselves even regarding a regular commanded war, and are wholly irrelevant in a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand. We also saw that the obligation to bear the military burden is a moral obligation that appears in Scripture and a halakhic duty that appears in the Talmud and the decisors. It is clear that insofar as soldiers are needed for victory, all must bear this burden— including the tribe of Levi and Torah learners, and certainly those who are not such (ordinary Haredim).

One could argue in principle that we are not in a situation where the army needs all enlistees; hence, our discussion thus far would be irrelevant. But at present, all relevant bodies state that there is a severe manpower shortage and indeed all are needed. Reservists bear a very heavy burden and are called up again and again; they and their families groan under the weight, and many have even paid with their lives in the war. We have not even spoken about the enormous losses to the economy because workers are mobilized—this itself constitutes a kind of public saving of life. Simultaneously, Haredi parties—whose voters mostly do not enlist—see to it that their coffers are filled from the public purse, which is depleted precisely because they are not sharing the military and economic burden. The desecration of God’s Name cries out to Heaven. And all I have described is before a war breaks out on additional fronts beyond Gaza, such as Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, the Houthis and Iran, the territories and the Palestinian Authority, and an uprising of Palestinian citizens of Israel. If and when all this occurs, our small army will be stretched beyond the ability to cope.

But beyond all this, even if the army did not need everyone, that could perhaps justify exemptions for Torah learners, but certainly not a blanket exemption for all Haredim as is done today. If indeed only a portion of the youth is required, then let the army recruit that portion from across the population, but all segments of society must equally share this burden. This is the starting point: there is an obligation upon all to bear the burden.

Framework of the discussion: classifying the justifications for exemption

Having established the fundamental obligation to take part in the war, we will now examine the exemption-claims. I remind you of what we saw above: exemption-claims are like “I do not know whether I repaid you,” for they seek to release one from an obligation to fight that certainly exists. Therefore, the burden of proof is on the one claiming exemption.

The basic infrastructure of Haredi arguments against enlistment rests on four main components: 1) opposition to Zionism and the state (and distrust in secular leadership and command); 2) fear of spiritual decline (secularization, deterioration); 3) the value of Torah study (the need to cultivate “iluyim,” prodigies); 4) Torah as a substitute for defense: “Rabbanan la tzrichi netiruta” (sages do not need guarding— for themselves) and “Torah protects and saves” (they also protect the public).

It is important to understand that these different types of arguments aim to justify the non-enlistment of different groups and to different extents. The first and second arguments are the broadest, for they try to base the non-enlistment of all Haredim. The third is the narrowest, for it concerns only “iluyim” (a common term in this discourse, meaning a screened minority among learners who will grow in Torah and become spiritual and halakhic leadership), who should be exempt. The fourth concerns a group of intermediate size—all those studying. Needless to say, the latter two arguments are not specific to Haredim. We will now discuss each in turn.

  1. Ideology and theology

The basis of this argument is ideological and theological: the attitude toward the State of Israel and Zionism. As noted, it concerns all who adopt Haredi theology, not only learners. This indeed was the discourse before the state’s establishment and in Haredi ideological polemics, especially in its early years; but today it is usually not raised in external discourse (with rare slips by certain Haredi politicians and rabbis). Many think that even if it exists somewhere in the background, it does not factor into the reasoning for non-enlistment.

But this is not precise. First, the whole matter began with this, and also because for many Haredim it still depends upon it, mainly in internal discourse. Claims such as “what have we to do with them?” or “they are the ones who caused the problems; why should we fight and endanger ourselves because of that?” help the Haredi youth reconcile themselves with not bearing the burden. An atmosphere of alienation and lack of partnership leads to a quieted conscience regarding enlistment, even without formulating it as an ideological principle and without saying it explicitly.

As to the argument itself: it is hard to dispute theological claims, and this is not the place, but reality teaches its own way. At present, in practice, there is danger for all of us, and the question of who is to blame matters less. Even if Zionism is at fault for everything, ultimately all of us are now in mortal danger and therefore must do everything to fight and be saved—certainly if, factually, we all are needed in the war to win it. Thus, sending the “guilty” to fight for us—even if one is morally and theologically at peace with such a policy—is not a practical option. When in danger, there is no place to debate who is to blame. If someone bored a hole in our shared boat and cannot plug it, surely we must all help him. Therefore, we will not deal here with arguments for and against this (baseless) position on the ideological–theological plane.

Similar Haredi arguments rely on distrust of the secular government and of military command (and, of course, without si’ata diShmaya). I begin by noting that the government today includes all Haredi parties; thus it is strange to claim distrust in a secular government. Ministerial responsibility for all governmental actions was the basis of the long-standing Haredi policy of not joining the executive branch. Today they are in it. Beyond this, this claim is rejected exactly like the previous one. The alternative proposed is to surrender ourselves to death. Ultimately, we must choose between two bad options: fight under the current military and governmental framework (assuming we distrust its conduct) or not fight and die. The choice here is self-evident. On the contrary, when Haredim integrate into the army, they can influence its conduct and improve it. Either way, certainly sitting on the sidelines is not a reasonable choice between these two. And of course, leaving others to die for us— even if it sufficed for security and no Haredi soldiers were needed— is neither a moral nor halakhically correct solution.

  1. Fear of spiritual decline

This line of argument also concerns every Haredi (and perhaps also religious) person, not only learners. In my assessment, at least these days (and perhaps it was always so), this is the principal argument. The distinction between learners and non-learners appears in the discourse, but it seems born of necessity: it is hard to defend a stance of not bearing the burden out of insecurity and weakness vis-à-vis others, and it is much easier to project strength and declare: we, the learners, protect you. As is known, the Haredi world fears the exposure of the Haredi youth who enlists—to people and ideas outside the Haredi camp, which threatens the “purity of outlook” and perhaps religious commitment altogether, and thereby threatens the Haredi society as a whole (without seclusion there is danger of attrition and disintegration). Ostensibly, this seems a reasonable claim from their perspective: they are not shirking but merely trying to preserve their way of life; if the army threatens that, it seems legitimate not to enlist.

But this argument is quite weak, for several reasons. First, it is possible to organize protected service tracks in various ways—such as Haredi “hesder” yeshivot (which already exist), Haredi pre-military programs to prepare enlistees for army life, rabbinic accompaniment during service, and ensuring Haredi norms in kashrut, modesty, etc. (without entering the question of whether these are indeed the proper norms according to Torah and halakha). The common claim is that the army has not done this adequately until now, and even in the existing Haredi tracks there are unresolved issues. But those who make this claim ignore two important points: first, they ignore their own part. If they cared to enlist and fulfill their duty, there is no doubt the army would look vastly different. Especially in recent years, when Haredi parties take an active part in governance and the executive branch, they can ensure this themselves—or at least shoulder with the army to advance it according to their norms. For some reason there is a feeling that this is society’s duty toward the Haredi community. They ignore that Haredim are part of Israeli society and they are not doing anyone a favor by bearing the burden like everyone else. Moreover, the fact that Haredi youth do not enlist dampens the army’s motivation to build such frameworks. No person or organization invests in hypothetical tasks before seeing that there is purpose and value.

Beyond that, they ignore the fact that even if there is a risk of spiritual decline for a Haredi youth who enlists, that does not exempt him from fulfilling his duty—certainly not when he is needed as a soldier to achieve victory. Does such a consideration permit one not to kill a pursuer? If I saw someone being pursued to be killed, could I say I will not save him because I am studying Torah—or because the street where I must fight is filled with immodest sights and I fear spiritual decline? If I see a fire in a neighbor’s house, may I remain at home studying because I am a learner or a Haredi who is not required to rescue? This is exactly our current situation. There is a fire and an actual pursuit—only it is on a wider scale (a danger to the whole country and some threats are future), and thus it is easier to ignore.

Professor Haneskeh wrote in his article:

“Were the army to remove its protection from the yeshivot and Haredi centers, and these were faced with an immediate choice—to be slaughtered, God forbid, by the enemy, or to fight—there is no doubt the instruction would be to enlist, and all the future concerns would be null and void, as in saving life that overrides all prohibitions in the Torah (except the well-known three), including all spiritual declines entailed therein.”

So too wrote Rabbi Zevin in his aforementioned letter:

“Consider this yourselves: a directive has been issued by ‘Civil Guard’ to paste cloth or paper over all windowpanes because of the danger of bombing. Could one imagine that Torah scholars would not do this, claiming that ‘sages do not need guarding’? Did any of those engaged in Torah shirk this instruction? And why did Torah scholars, together with all our brethren Israel, leave the frontline neighborhoods being hit by snipers’ fire and not rely on that segulah of ‘sages do not need guarding’?”

There is here a conceptual error regarding halakha as a whole (which indeed touches the broader Haredi outlook). Imagine: how many of us advocate fleeing to the deserts to avoid the sin of gossip and other prohibitions? We received a tradition that the Torah was not given to heaven’s angels nor to those who eat manna. The Torah is to be realized in our world with all its obstacles and challenges; if there are challenges, that is not a reason to avoid assuming life’s vital functions. There are values in halakha for which we must even die or, at least, pay a very dear price. Saving Israel from an enemy at hand is one of them. Army service involves danger to life, which is more severe than any fear of spiritual decline, and even so this is no excuse to avoid enlistment. It is inconceivable that an entire society would send others to risk their lives for it because of certain principles—however important they may be. Each of us has a very basic and important principle: he does not want to die. Does that justify not enlisting? Is eating only the Rabbanut’s kashrut or seeing a woman in pants (assuming the Haredi frameworks in the army will not be perfect) a justification for all of us to die? Surely everyone agrees that a person may not steal others’ money to heal himself or to cope with threats and challenges to his way of life and outlook. How, then, may one send others to die on his behalf because of these fears?

The threats and risks a Haredi youth faces are the Haredi society’s problem, exactly as the threats that a non-Haredi religious youth faces are the non-Haredi society’s problem. Therefore, each group or individual must address those threats as best they can; but that does not justify avoiding the burden and failing to fulfill so basic a halakhic and civic duty, and certainly it does not justify our all dying because of a lack of soldiers. As noted above, arranging frameworks that minimize harm is important and worthy of attention; but that should be, first and foremost, the Haredi society’s interest as it must fulfill its duty to society and the state, and it must ensure that it is done—not expect others to do it for it.

I wonder how many Haredim would refrain from taking a lulav or from eating kosher because of fear of spiritual decline. We saw that army service is a halakhic and moral duty no less than eating kosher. How many Haredim would avoid seeing a doctor for a serious illness or calling the police when they are violently attacked, if there were a fear of spiritual decline? Army service is the actual saving of all our lives. For some reason, the duty of army service receives among Haredim a different, more dismissive treatment—because there are those who do the work on their behalf. But now even that is false. As explained above, others can no longer bear the burden and do all the work; now we are all in tangible danger. There is no one to do the work.

  1. The value of Torah study

The third argument is the value of Torah study. The claim is that halakhic growth requires full dedication, and thus enlistment would greatly hinder it. As support, they cite draft exemptions granted to outstanding athletes and artists, and the claim arises: “Shall the priest be like the innkeeper?” Surely Torah study is no less important than these pursuits; therefore, Torah learners should also be exempt. Note that this argument is also relevant to non-Haredi Torah learners. It is also important to note that, of course, this can justify an exemption for a much smaller number of learners—not a blanket exemption for Haredim or even for all Torah learners.

The arguments above—that the army needs Haredi soldiers—are not relevant to small numbers of exemptions. Therefore, this is a wholly legitimate and worthy consideration. I believe there is quite broad agreement among the Israeli public that it is appropriate to exempt a certain number of carefully selected learners, according to criteria of diligence and talent, who dedicate themselves to long-term growth in Torah (this is not an exemption until age twenty-six after which the learner can go into business, as is common today). Incidentally, this chosen group should also be properly compensated (not with the current meager stipends due to the large number of learners), to enable them to dedicate themselves and grow in Torah and to constitute a future spiritual and halakhic leadership. Of course, this includes worthy learners from all communities—not only Haredim. Needless to say, this exemption should be seen as one society grants out of appreciation for those learners—not as a right to which anyone is entitled and can demand. As we saw above, by law, no person has an exemption from a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand.

If we adopt a new social compact that exempts a small cohort of learners who suit it, they can be considered, for this purpose, as the tribe of Levi. True, as we saw above, Maimonides speaks only of those who are like Ben Azzai and Rashbi—who, due to their clinging to Torah, were exempt from commandments, including the commandment of war and of saving Israel from an enemy at hand. But such an exemption can be granted also to those who do not reach these lofty criteria, since it is not a right that is theirs by law but a privilege that society grants them also for its own sake and not only for them; and society has the right to do so even in our spiritually impoverished generation, where we have no “sons of Levi” who have cast off all worldly calculations.

  1. Torah as a substitute for defense

The last argument is that learners protect us all; therefore, they indeed contribute their share even without enlisting. This argument is broader than the previous and could perhaps serve as the basis to exempt all learners (again—not only Haredim). I already noted that this argument is more convenient for Haredi apologetics, for it does not request privileges but places those who do not learn on the defensive. Some go so far as to claim that the learners are the true protectors of Israel, and the fighters are only the necessary hishtadlut (human effort).

As we wrote at the outset, this section divides into two different claims: (A) Rabbanan la ba’u netiruta—sages do not need guarding; i.e., the army’s protection is only necessary for ordinary citizens, not for Torah learners, who are guarded by their Torah. Consequently, they are not obligated to contribute to defense, for they are not its “clients” (as if they were citizens of another state for this purpose). (B) “Torah protects and saves.” This can be understood similarly—that Torah protects and saves the one who studies it—and then we have returned to the previous section. But the way it is used in the draft debate is that Torah also protects and saves the public. That is, the claim is not only that learners are exempt because they do not need guarding; they also fulfill their part in the guarding by their studying and thereby protect us all.

In this discussion, we must first distinguish between aggadic and halakhic sources. “Torah protects and saves” is an aggadic statement, and any practical (certainly halakhic) conclusion derived from it is highly tentative. By contrast, “sages do not need guarding” is cited in halakhic contexts and has halakhic ramifications.

“Torah protects and saves”

In Sotah 21a, the gemara discusses the protective effect of commandments and of Torah study, and says both protect, but Torah more so:

“It was taught: This was expounded by Rabbi Menachem b. Yose: ‘For the commandment is a lamp and Torah is light’—the verse associates the commandment with a lamp and the Torah with light. The commandment with a lamp—to teach that just as a lamp protects only temporarily, so a commandment protects only temporarily. The Torah with light—to teach that just as light protects forever, so Torah protects forever. And it says: ‘When you walk, it will guide you…’—‘When you walk, it will guide you’—this is in this world; ‘when you lie down, it will watch over you’—this is death; ‘and when you awaken, it will speak with you’—this is the World to Come. A parable: A man was walking in the dark of night and he feared thorns, pits, and briars, wild beasts and bandits, and he did not know which way he was walking. A torch of light was brought to him; he was saved from thorns, pits, and briars, but he still feared wild beasts and bandits, and he did not know which way he was walking. When dawn arose, he was saved from wild beasts and bandits, but he still did not know which way he was walking. When he reached the crossroads, he was saved from all. Alternatively: a transgression extinguishes a commandment, but a transgression does not extinguish Torah, as it says: ‘Many waters cannot extinguish love.’ Rav Yosef said: A commandment, while one is engaged in it, protects and saves; when he is not engaged in it—it protects but does not save. Torah, whether one is engaged in it or not, protects and saves. Rava objected: But Doeg and Ahitophel—did they not study Torah? Why did it not protect them? Rather, Rava said: Torah, when one is engaged in it, protects and saves; when he is not engaged in it—it protects but does not save. A commandment, whether one is engaged in it or not—it protects but does not save.”

First, Rava concludes that even Torah, when one is not engaged in it, perhaps protects but does not save from an existing trouble (again the distinction between a present threat and preventing a future one). Throughout the sugya it simply appears that the reference is to protection of the learner himself, not of the public. One could perhaps adduce other sources that speak of the merit of learning and its benefit to those who support learners, and perhaps to society at large. But to rely on Torah as protection against an existing and tangible threat that has no solution in the natural order without fighting—this is truly a far-reaching conclusion. Moreover, in the decisors we cited, such as the Ḥazon Ish and the Brisker Rav, there is no mention of “Torah protects and saves.” They discuss whether soldiers are needed in the army for victory in the natural order, and they hinge the duty to enlist on that. Even if we rely on Maimonides’ comparison of Torah scholars to the tribe of Levi, that teaches an exemption for God’s servants; we addressed that above.

Either way, the meaning of that “protection” is no simple question. Are there not Torah learners who suffer all sorts of harms? This they themselves. What about others? Can others rely on the protection of the learners? The gemara itself wonders about Doeg and Ahitophel and offers answers. Our eyes see that Torah study did not protect the victims of the Simḥat Torah massacre or the soldiers who fall daily in Gaza. Rabbi Zevin asks: where was that protection for the victims of the 1929 Hebron massacre? And many others likewise. In any case, as is the way with aggadah, it is hard to derive clear halakhic conclusions: Even if Torah indeed protects the public, how much Torah must be studied for it to protect? How many learners are needed to protect against an enemy who rises to destroy us? To what extent does it protect, and whom? If I am ill, should I not go to the doctor because Torah protects me? If someone attacks me to kill me, shall I suffice with Torah study and not make efforts to be saved? Again, all this concerns the person himself. But even regarding protecting others, one must wonder: does anyone propose that I stop taking medicine or going to work because his Torah “protects and saves” me? Does he himself refrain from doing so?

Torah is, of course, extremely important to all of us. Moreover, our survival is not only a value in itself but also primarily to advance Torah. Part of the goal of war and survival is the ability to continue Torah study and transmit it to future generations. Therefore, it seems unreasonable to cancel Torah entirely for the sake of survival. But that is not the case here: this is not about wholesale cancellation of Torah, but about sharing the burden with society. All can study in the years when they are not in service—before and after—and each in his turn will contribute his share to Torah study. In the hesder yeshivot there is always Torah being studied by those in yeshiva while other cohorts are, in their turn, in military service.

It is unreasonable that those who demand exemption from military service on the grounds that their Torah protects us would make similar proposals in personal matters. On the general level, it is easier and less refutable, because there are those who do the work and die on their behalf; thus it is easy to say that we were saved by Torah. Where the learner would have to rely only on Torah without others’ hishtadlut for him—when his own life is directly endangered—he will not do so. This is precisely what is meant by “one must not rely on a miracle”; when action is needed, one must act and not rely on Torah’s protection, even if such exists. And certainly this applies when the danger is blatant and present—such is our situation now.

So writes the Rashba (Responsa I §1013):

“Even the pious among the pious have no permission to act in their affairs by way of trust [alone], but only in the manner of the world—that he should not say: I will light my lamp with water or wine and rely on a miracle… This is not a lack of trust; on the contrary, it is forbidden to rely on a miracle.”

“Sages do not need guarding”

The source is in the tax sugyot in the first chapter of Bava Batra. The structure of tax laws is complex; the main question is how to distribute participation in public needs among citizens. I note briefly that today we do not apply the tax laws that appear in those sugyot even in other contexts—not only in the state but also in wholly religious and Haredi communities. Therefore, any practical conclusion drawn from those sugyot is tentative. The sugya is quite involved; here we address it only as much as needed.

One principle the Talmud presents is that for certain matters, participation in public needs is according to the degree of benefit one receives. Thus, for example, a wealthy man benefits more from a city wall that protects against bandits; hence he should participate more in its costs than a poor man. Likewise, a family with many children benefits more from educational institutions, etc. According to this principle, a Torah scholar who is himself protected by the Torah he has learned and is learning is exempt from participating in security costs, since he does not need protection. Note that this exemption does not derive from his protecting all of us, but from his own being protected. The claim that he protects us all is a different claim, not raised in those sugyot (which itself is telling), and we addressed it in the previous section. The claim is that just as Torah scholars are exempt from guarding expenses because they do not need them, they are exempt by the same rationale from military service itself.

To be brief, we use Rabbi Yair Aton’s article, “Torah Considerations in Dividing the Tax Burden,” Mishorim 1, Yeruḥam 2004. In chapter 5 he discusses the exemption of Torah scholars from guarding expenses. He presents three arguments:

  1. The exemption from guarding is because they do not need it. According to this, this is not an exemption for Torah scholars per se but an application of the general principle of participation according to need. Indeed, there the gemara explains that there are Torah scholars who do participate in expenses in cases where they too need guarding. The question is whether the learners we discuss truly do not need guarding. Do they not call the police when a burglar enters their house? Do they not worry about livelihood when in distress? How, then, can one employ this principle only with regard to military service?!
  2. Moreover, even if we accept the assumption that one who does not need a service need not participate in its maintenance—what does that say about expenses for Haredi culture and education, mikva’ot, and more? Must one who is not Haredi fund those institutions? We have not heard of such a waiver on the Haredi side. The assumption underlying the Haredi claim “sages do not need guarding” is that each community should fund itself and its needs; but this is not the assumption of a modern state, nor of the Haredim themselves in other contexts.

Incidentally, the sugya also presents an exemption for Torah scholars from all royal taxes. Rabbi Aton argues that this is only for gentile kings; but even without this, we have not heard a demand by learners to exempt them from taxes. Why is military service different?

  1. The exemption from taxes is also tied there to the notion that calamity comes to the world because of the unlearned. That is, learners are not the source of the trouble and thus not obligated to address it. I already noted above (in the theology section) how strange this claim is. Beyond the theological novelty about who brings calamities upon us, and the diagnostic novelty that grants us the tools to determine who is a Torah scholar and who is an ignoramus and because of whom troubles come upon us—and beyond the halakhic conclusions derived from such a diagnosis—there is here the assumption that participation in expenses is determined by blame (who caused the expense), not by the degree of threat (i.e., who needs rescue). Note that this is not blame that justifies tort liability; thus, in itself, it is a substantial novelty. Beyond this, we could now enter questions of fault for various expenses in our state and set participation accordingly. Here too you will see that the Haredi public likely will not want to go this way.

Needless to say, all these claims concern exemption from taxes for guarding expenses (presumably primarily protection from theft, not necessarily danger to life). That is, we speak of monetary expenses for defense against a prospective danger from enemies who might come upon us (see also Rashi, Bava Metzia 108a). But as we saw, in our case we face an existing threat; and now the discussion is not about participating in financial security costs but about participating in the war itself, already underway. Hence, nothing can be learned for this from tax laws. As we saw, in a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand, there is no exemption—for learner nor Haredi nor anyone— even if we accept that from paying taxes they might be exempt.

I add generally: throughout those sugyot it is implied that Torah protects its learners—not the public. The discussion is exemption due to lack of need or lack of fault. I have not heard anyone among us claim that if we have Torah learners, there is no need at all to expend on security because nothing will happen to any of us. The very principle that “Torah protects and saves” is not raised in those sugyot—indicating it is not a factor there. The claim that learners protect the public cannot rely on those sugyot—and perhaps is even contradicted by them. But, as seen here, even regarding protecting the learners themselves, the claim is used very selectively.

Already the Radbaz mocked Torah scholars who request exemption from guarding taxes relying on the Talmudic maxim that they “do not need guarding,” yet reveal their hypocrisy by refusing in any way to be left without guards (Responsa Radbaz II §1392):

“The sages cry out: Appoint guards! They themselves admit that they need guarding. Is there, by law or reason, that they should compel the householders to appoint guards and not assist them? To compel them in such a matter—no one ever said such a thing. And if someone did, we do not obey him, for the attribute of justice has been stricken… Even though there is another reason, namely that I am in doubt whether there is anyone today who does not need guarding, I will not enter that inquiry now, for my words would grieve some scholars; therefore, silence is better than speech.”

Note: the midrash on “a thousand from each tribe”

Many cite as a source for exempting learners the midrash on Numbers 31:4—learning from “a thousand from each tribe” that Moses separated from each tribe a number of men who would pray for the fighters. But in light of all we have seen, this source is untenable for us, for many reasons.

First, this is an aggadic midrash that contradicts halakha; we do not derive halakha from it. In halakha we saw the rule clearly and without dispute. By this logic, we should send the head of the Sanhedrin alone to the war instead of the entire army (like Yair ben Menashe, who was equivalent to most of the Sanhedrin). This too is written in a midrash. Second, the verses themselves say that Moses took only a thousand soldiers from each tribe—apparently because that is what was needed there. Does anyone imagine that if soldiers are needed for victory, we will exempt someone because Moses separated a thousand to pray? We saw that, in a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand, we act under the laws of saving life; thus anyone needed goes out. Third, the midrash says that a thousand were also taken from the tribe of Levi (which does not align with the interpretation above of Maimonides’ words in Shemitah and Yovel). Fourth, this was not a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand; it was vengeance against Midian—not defense. Fifth, I already noted that the same midrash says that beyond the Levites, the Sanhedrin also went out to war. Sixth, it was Moses’ decision on his own—not a binding halakha. If the state decides to separate men to pray for the fighters, all is well. But learners have no vested right to be exempt. Seventh, the state indeed is willing to exempt some learners (and below we will support this), but the Haredim want to exempt everyone. Eighth, our learners do not engage in prayer for the fighters but in regular Torah study.

Conclusion and summary

The end of the matter, all is heard: There is a complete obligation upon every person of Israel, without exception, to participate in a war to save Israel from an enemy at hand. The four exemption-claims raised against this obligation are baseless in themselves; and as I noted above, it would suffice to show that they are not compelling to reject them, for the burden of proof lies on the one claiming exemption.

Since these claims are raised at times even by clear Torah scholars, it is indeed a wonder that they present arguments lacking any logical, moral, and halakhic foundation. It seems that fear of Haredi society’s disintegration underlies these claims; but we have received that there is neither counsel nor wisdom against the Lord. Halakha says here, unequivocally, that there is a duty to enlist, and all concerns—many of which should not be dismissed—must be set aside when there is an existential threat and when nationwide mobilization is required. This is a passing commandment, and even a learner is not exempt from it; likewise, one who fears spiritual decline is not exempt from it.

We note that in 2030 the Haredim are estimated to constitute about 25% of Israelis under twenty; among the Jewish public that enlists, this is far higher (about a third). Therefore, this is not about exemptions for a few dozens or hundreds of outstanding athletes or artists, but a dramatic blow to the size of the army and thus to the security of all of us. In a time of existential threat like ours, when professionals constantly say that every soldier is needed for the war effort, there is no justification to exempt such numbers for any reason whatsoever. The burden imposed upon the rest of the population is unbearable—especially when that burden is imposed by a government largely made up of Haredi parties. How terrible is the desecration of God’s Name caused by this.

Even if not all soldiers were needed, there would still be no justification to exempt a single sector. The burden must be shared by all. The claim that the enlistment rate across Israel’s population is low is irrelevant to exempting any person or group from this duty. First, because if one accounts for Arabs and Haredim, the rate is not so low (about 65% of the Jewish public; if one accounts for Haredim, it rises much higher). Moreover, regarding Haredim, this is a blanket exemption for a specific sector—not individual draft dodgers who should be dealt with separately. Here we address the basic duty to enlist, not the modes and quality of enforcement—which of course also need improvement. The same applies to the efficiency of the IDF’s conduct and manpower utilization, which also needs improvement. But none of this justifies granting exemptions to anyone. On the contrary, let Haredim enlist and take part in improving the army and its conduct. This is not an oppositional stance by the Haredi public against the state. Haredim are not doing anyone a favor. They are part of the state, and all existing problems lie at their doorstep as well.

Despite everything, we argued that it is indeed appropriate to grant a selective exemption to a small group of outstanding learners and even to ensure for them financial freedom for their growth in Torah. We also note the conclusion that it is appropriate to arrange proper military service frameworks suited to the Haredi public and its values, to minimize their fears of enlistment—but this task lies mainly upon the Haredim themselves (especially now, when they comprise a significant part of the government and coalition). When they will bestir themselves, it is clear that aid from all of us will certainly come.

[1] There is room to qualify the term “dina de-malchuta” with respect to Israel’s government, for in its original sense it concerns a gentile kingdom in the Diaspora. The foundation of a king’s authority in Israel may be different (see, e.g., Gershon German, Melekh Yisrael), though one must discuss what applies to a regime like ours that is not committed to halakha and Torah. In any case, here I used the common term “dina de-malchuta,” if only for simplicity; for our purposes, it suffices.

[2] I was alerted by Elḥanan Shilo to several sources indicating that there were groups and approaches that indeed surrendered themselves to death on Shabbat (see, e.g., 1 Maccabees 2; the end of the Book of Jubilees; Yaakov Gontschel, Another Land 35, on Ethiopian practices; Frontinus the Roman, Stratagems 2.1.17; Sefer HaShabbat, 1958, p. 196, from the Shabbat laws of a Damascus community in the Middle Ages). These are various sects, some of whom did so even after the Hasmonean court’s exegesis. But it is clear to me that this was never the general approach in any period—if only because otherwise we would not be here today. Even the gemara in Yoma, which discusses the law that saving life overrides Shabbat, opens with the question “From where do we know that saving a life overrides Shabbat?”—not “Does saving a life override Shabbat?” The gemara merely seeks a source; the law itself was clear from the outset (and at the end of the sugya there we see that even the law for a doubtful case of saving life was clear before the discussion).

[3] One could counter that his intent is only to say that not all the details of commanded wars apply in our time, and he need not state it explicitly. Still, perhaps there is commanded war in our time. But from his plain language it appears that, in our time, there is no commanded war at all. One could also say he refers to the era of exile, when there is no king over Israel in any sense. This too is strained, for saving Israel from an enemy at hand certainly applies in exile as well. But from his wording this does not seem to be his intent.

Discussion

Yossi (2024-06-07)

What a world.
Because of the fools (or those who pretend to be), one has to go into so much detail.
It’s so simple that one must enlist, and anyone who doesn’t is a wicked villain.

Peli (2024-06-07)

I am not familiar with any halakhic argument against the claim that Haredi society would disintegrate. This is a simple factual claim [and in any case the argument over it belongs to the factual realm, not the halakhic one]: that the disintegration of Haredi society would include dropout and halakhic collapse [even by non-Haredi religious standards]. And it is also apparently quite a plausible fact that broad conscription of Haredim would lead to a mass exit of Haredim into the general world, and it is hard to say that the level of halakhic observance would not be harmed in such a situation.
A situation in which there is concern for a general decline in observance of the commandments is defined in halakha as a case of “It is a time to act for the Lord,” where in such a case one may violate a particular commandment for the sake of preserving overall observance, so that although helping Israel against an attacking enemy is a halakhic obligation, it does not apply in such cases.
A state of “It is a time to act for the Lord,” which permits violating a particular halakha, even includes life itself, as explained in several places in halakha, such as “one may not be healed with the wood of an Asherah,” lest one be drawn after idolatry, even though as a result the sick person will die; and likewise the court has authority to stone and execute not according to the normal rules of halakha if they see that the hour requires it, because of protecting the overall observance of the commandments.
So seemingly even the argument from saving life does not stand against the argument of “It is a time to act for the Lord.”
As I understand it, even according to the Haredim themselves, the issue belongs to the meta-halakhic layer and not to specific halakha.

Michi (2024-06-07)

That is simply not true. They cite sources (such as the end of Hilkhot Shemittah ve-Yovel). They raise specious arguments that learners are exempt. They even add, as lip service, that anyone who is not learning should enlist. And above all, the disintegration of Haredi society is not a relevant consideration. If they are prepared to die for that, then let them kindly sit on the border and not exploit their surroundings, as Radbaz wrote. Beyond that, anyone can invent that the disintegration of attitudes toward sock color is “a time to act for the Lord.” And finally, so long as public observance of the commandments is not in danger, concern for particulars is no excuse. At most they will become like the Religious Zionists. At least we’ll be alive.
These are empty excuses. It is obvious that their whole concern is preserving Haredism and everything else is a complete lie, but even this rationale is nonsense.

Michi (2024-06-07)

They just sent me a booklet about drafting yeshiva students that my friend Nadav Shnerb wrote as a hesder yeshiva student. It reminded me of old times: https://woland.ph.biu.ac.il/?download=269

Eliezer (2024-06-07)

A basic mistake is the idea that the Haredi public is characterized by trembling reverence for the word of God. Maybe that was true in the past, but today the definition of the Haredi public is social, not ideological. My Haredism is the negation of the secular and Religious-Zionist ways of life. That is how it enables operatives (not the gedoylim, who are not familiar with the form of a coin) to control an entire public.

Michi (2024-06-07)

No one thought otherwise. The question is how a person allows himself thereby to negate halakha and morality as well.

Peli (2024-06-07)

I was mistaken regarding the Haredi argument itself, which indeed is not on the meta-halakhic plane as I wrote.
But I did not understand the answer to the argument itself. A. At least according to some of their official publications, they are willing to die for this [be killed rather than transgress, etc.].
B. What does the rabbi mean by “let them kindly sit on the border and not exploit their surroundings”? Is that a halakhic argument against the claim of “It is a time to act for the Lord,” or a moral but non-halakhic argument? And if so, is this an area where halakha is subordinate to morality? And if the rabbi means to claim insincerity, that is a problem of the Haredim, but on the halakhic level there is no answer here; halakhically this is forbidden even if the Haredim themselves do not understand why halakhically it is forbidden.
C. I did not understand why public observance of the commandments is not in danger. After all, if dropout rates rise from fifteen percent to thirty-five percent, say, as a result of mass Haredi enlistment, that would seemingly be a public decline in the level of observance. Maybe the rabbi does not think that is the factual situation, but the Haredim are convinced that it is [at any rate, those I know are].

Michi (2024-06-07)

A. They are willing to die so long as it is clear that no danger to their lives is actually involved. They are also willing to give up budgets so long as they are transferred to them by other means. The unbacked bluster of these fools says nothing.
When they hold their demonstrations in Gaza without needing security, medical services, and funding, we’ll talk.
B. This is indeed a halakhic argument showing that they themselves do not believe the nonsense they parrot. Radbaz wrote about this.
C. No, that is not a danger that justifies dodging service. At most, let them work to establish a suitable military framework.
I think this discussion is absurd. As far as I’m concerned, I’m done.

Hared (2024-06-07)

The blunt and tangible proof that the Haredim are not concerned about spiritual decline for the sake of fulfilling a (imaginary) commandment is the mass daily rush of tender boys to naked immersion in a mikveh swarming with pedophiles and organ hunters.
And despite the clear, common, and widespread dangers in those immersion houses, they continue and encourage the delicate young flock to provoke Satan, gamble, and risk sexual assault.

Vayera (2024-06-07)

It is also worth noting that among the organ hunters in the mikveh there is a considerable percentage of cannibals and human-sacrifice offerers. The mikvehs themselves are also sometimes poisoned, and 5G sensors are installed in their ceilings which send the information to Eichmann (who, as is known, is still alive and living in Brazil), and once a month he edits the videos nicely with stirring music and presents them to Satan and to Gog and Magog.

Elad Yaakobi (2024-06-07)

Thank you, and I was moved by the dedication.
Do the same things apply regarding the enlistment of religious girls? After all, the arguments are not essentially different, and even if there is dina de-malkhuta here, perhaps it is a law of extortion?

Michi (2024-06-07)

I debated whether to address this in the ruling. In my opinion there is no principled difference, and the obligation applies to women too. But the division of roles and order of priorities is entrusted to the government and the army. And of course one must take women’s fitness and characteristics into account. Therefore distinguishing between women and men in this matter is not a law of extortion. On the contrary, in my opinion the army and the government do not properly weigh women’s combat service and rush to integrate them without justification because of political pressure. That too is wrong. I have written here in the past why such service by women is problematic.
And the commentators have already written, regarding “a bride from her canopy,” that the intention is that she engage in logistics and not combat. But of course, if there is no choice and they are needed for victory, considerations of saving life are the sole determining factor. By the way, if more Haredi men enlisted, there would be less need for women.

Gershom (2024-06-07)

Regarding priests who go out to war, you forgot Nehemiah 11:14: “And their brethren, mighty men of valor, one hundred twenty-eight; and their overseer was Zabdiel the son of Haggedolim.”

Elad Yaakobi (2024-06-07)

I meant “a law of extortion” in the sense that religious girls can make do with national service.

Michi (2024-06-07)

I understood. That is what I answered. As far as I’m concerned, national service is like military service, and society may direct women there, so long as it is truly effective and for the public good. Of course secular women can as well, if they wish and society agrees.

Hesder (2024-06-07)

And what are we to say about hesder students?

Michi (2024-06-07)

In the current discussion a practical difference arose: whether helping Israel against an attacking enemy is seen as an obligatory war, which is the accepted view, or as saving life, as I argue.
An obligatory war has to be conducted by the king, so it depends on whether one sees the government here as a monarchy or not. Saving life does not depend on that. Beyond that, is a Jew in the Land of Israel allowed to flee abroad and not fight? And similarly, is a Jew living abroad obligated to come here and fight? Regarding both questions, if this is an obligatory war then one may not flee and a Jew abroad must come fight. According to my view, one may flee and there is no obligation to come.
For some reason I have not heard of any decisor who obligates Jews abroad to come fight.

Yisrael (2024-06-07)

I do not understand why one needs to reach halakhic pilpulim. There is a much simpler claim here: the Haredim demand service and are not willing to pay for it in the currency agreed upon by the service provider. This is called “theft.”

It is like someone who buys bread at the grocery and insists on paying with pages of Gemara, despite the shopkeeper’s protests that he specifically wants money. That is theft in every respect.

I am Haredi, and I presented this question to a few friends, and I got no answer.

Michi (2024-06-08)

That is written inside.

Rabbi Akiva (2024-06-08)

Why is national service considered like military service? It is just forced labor to create an imaginary equality.

Yossi the Haredi (2024-06-09)

No one disputes the problem—true, Haredim do not enlist, and that’s ugly. The question is what the solution is. After all, it is clear to you that the secular public will cry about religious coercion in the army much faster than the Haredim will cry about secularization. What happened with the tefillin stand in Tel Aviv or the mixed performance in Afula will be as nothing compared to what will happen with Haredim in the army. It will undoubtedly tear the army apart from within. Add to that the fact that the average Haredi is already married in his early twenties and even has a child or two—that means paying respectable salaries to tens of thousands of soldiers, which will be an enormous economic burden on the state, to the point of collapse, at a time when it is not even certain there will be more such full-scale wars that would justify such massive conscription.

And that leads me to the more important question: do all the halakhot and commandments you listed here apply to three years of army service even if there is no war? What happens if they draft another 30,000 Haredim now, and then the next full-scale war comes only in 20 years? (That, after all, is what previously led them to close divisions.) Will tens of thousands just sit around serving as useless jobniks? (That is true for Haredim and non-Haredim alike.)

I think some sort of framework similar to reserve duty should be created, where they would do basic training and periodic reserve service, and that way train fighters for a time of need, even without full conscription. That would also provide a real answer to the halakhic problems you presented here of saving life, going out to war, etc. There is no commandment in the Torah to sit for three years on an army base.

Y.D. (2024-06-09)

For your information, they tried to shorten service from three years to 30 months before the war. Then the war broke out, and it became clear that we are missing at least 3 armored divisions. So maybe it would be good for us to have another 30,000 Haredi fighters to fill the ranks and reduce the reserve burden on the productive sector of the economy, instead of making contrivances and calculations that pretend to be clever but in practice only broadcast evasion of the burden.

And regarding the matter itself, there is no obligation of equality in the burden. There is an obligation of partnership in the burden. Frameworks like Nahal Haredi, hesder yeshivot, and perhaps what is now being discussed as a national guard make that possible on one level or another (obviously full regular service is militarily superior to shortened service). But the Haredim give up even that.

Y.D. (2024-06-09)

I agree with all that, and still I would prefer that the State of Israel not draft by force people who refuse on principle. Not for religious or moral reasons, but for liberal ones. I do not want to be Tsarist Russia, and I do not want to draft by force people who see me as Tsarist Russia.

Yossi the Haredi (2024-06-09)

That is a complete invention. They replaced the word “equality” with “partnership” and all sorts of contrivances. There is no justification for one person to serve half as much as another, just as there is no justification for one person not to serve at all.

y0534372487 (2024-06-10)

What about this?
“The verse is in the Book of Numbers (chapter 31, verse 4): ‘A thousand from each tribe, a thousand from each tribe, from all the tribes of Israel shall you send to the army’; and in Midrash Rabbah there (parasha 22, section 3) they said that for every thousand people who went to fight in the army, a thousand remained behind to pray for them.”
I took it from Hidabroot.

Gabriel (2024-06-10)

Nothing is more nauseating than a Haredi pretending to be a liberal.
The man will think it is his right to forbid public transportation on Shabbat in Tel Aviv, to station police at the entrances to hospitals lest someone enter with hametz, but coercion against him? Heaven forbid, that’s outright communism!
All conscription is coercion; if he thinks otherwise, he is welcome to abolish mandatory service and see how many soldiers remain for him.
While we’re at it, abolish income tax and national insurance too, and let people decide for themselves how much they want to give.

Michi (2024-06-10)

These are words of nonsense for a thousand reasons.
First, this is an aggadic midrash that contradicts the halakha, and one does not derive practical halakha from it. As for the halakha, I showed clearly and without dispute what the law is.
Second, in the verses themselves it says there that they took a thousand soldiers from each tribe; apparently that was what they needed. Does anyone imagine that if soldiers are needed for the sake of saving life, we would exempt someone because Moses set aside a thousand for prayer? Here we operate by the laws of saving life, and therefore everyone who is needed goes out, period.
Third, that midrash says they also took a thousand from the tribe of Levi (where, then, is Rambam in Hilkhot Shemittah ve-Yovel?).
Fourth, this was not a war of helping Israel against an attacking enemy, since it was vengeance against Midian. Fifth, the midrashim there on the spot say that beyond the Levites, even the Sanhedrin themselves went out to war.
Sixth, these were decisions made by Moses on his own authority and not halakha. If the state decides to set aside people to pray, fine. But they have no right to exempt themselves.
Seventh, the state is indeed willing to exempt some learners, but the Haredim want all of them. And eighth, they are not engaged in praying for the fighters but in ordinary Torah study.
Maybe we should just send the head of the Sanhedrin alone to the war instead of the whole army (like Jair son of Manasseh), and everything will be fine. That too is written in the midrash.

y0534372487 (2024-06-10)

Thanks for the answer!
This is a very common argument among the Haredim,
and even if it is foolish, it is worth addressing.

Y.D. (2024-06-10)

There are people in the army who do one week on, one week off—one week in the army, one week at home. In your view, should this arrangement that serves weaker populations be abolished?
There are people who enlist from the outset for more years, such as pilots and academic reserve-track soldiers. In your opinion, should that arrangement be abolished?
Girls serve two years instead of three. In your opinion, should theirs be extended to three?
I am not a communist and do not advocate the Procrustean bed that shortens the tall and lengthens the short. So long as, in principle, people share the burden with their fellows, I do not object to special tracks as long as they are fair (for example, hesder students serve less in the army but enter civilian life at a later age).

Y.D. (2024-06-10)

Nice to hear that I am Haredi and I did not know it myself. Maybe I am Hardal in disguise, and maybe I am ketchup.
On the matter of transportation on Shabbat, I admit that I connect less with it, though perhaps for different reasons than you assume. On the matter of hametz in hospitals, it is a more complex issue, but I agree that if you do not impose a hametz ban on Arab patients, there is no reason to impose it on secular Jews.
And I thought about it, and there is some difference between collecting taxes in money and going to the army. In the army, it is accepted that for suicidal missions one does not issue an order but asks for volunteers. And in Western countries like the U.S. and England it is accepted not to draft Quakers into combat roles, but at most into combat-support roles such as stretcher-bearers and the like (in England stretcher-bearers are not combatants). The army is an activity somewhat different from monetary taxes, and the attitude toward it is somewhat different. In this matter I prefer to be more America than Russia.

I’m attaching a post I wrote about Shabbat transportation (not necessarily public transportation):
https://yuddaaled.wordpress.com/2022/09/06/%d7%94%d7%a9%d7%91%d7%aa-%d7%95%d7%94%d7%9e%d7%a8%d7%97%d7%91-%d7%94%d7%a6%d7%99%d7%91%d7%95%d7%a8%d7%99/

Arik (2024-06-10)

Rabbi Michael,
you quoted Rabbi Elyashiv. Do you know of any of the rabbi’s descendants who enlisted? Do you know of even one “shababnik” whom the rabbi or one of his students instructed to enlist?

To create a volunteer army imbued with motivation (2024-06-10)

With God’s help, 4 Sivan 5784

To Gabriel — greetings,

Abolishing mandatory conscription will not leave us without fighters; on the contrary — it will increase their number, in quantity and quality. The people of Israel love to volunteer, especially for the purpose of ‘helping Israel against an attacking enemy.’

To strengthen motivation to enlist in combat units, one can add material incentives for fighters as well. For example: ‘one week on, one week off’ vacations (why only for cooks?) and funding for higher education. Thus, for example, a fighter who serves three years ‘one week on, one week off’ will both perform significant combat service and also complete ‘half the הדרך’ toward an academic degree.

Combat service combined with studies would also help solve the problem of mental exhaustion experienced by the discharged soldier, who often needs a months-long trip abroad to ‘blow off steam.’ IDF soldiers do not serve at great distances but relatively ‘close to home,’ and in my humble opinion there is no reason their regular service should not be combined with studies.

Such an arrangement, suitable for the whole population, would also allow a religious or Haredi soldier to choose Torah study in a yeshiva combined with military service, and if the military service were adapted to conditions of meticulous commandment observance, motivation would increase for those suited to meaningful service. A Haredi who volunteers for ‘United Hatzalah’ and the like could also volunteer for combat frameworks, and the infrastructure already exists today in ‘Haredi hesder yeshivot’ and in units such as ‘Tomer’ and ‘Hetz’ and the like.

And the Sages already said: ‘Better a little with intention than a lot without intention.’

Regards, Fish”l

The IDF’s problem on Simchat Torah was not a shortage of manpower, but failure to utilize the existing manpower because of a fixed conception that the enemy would not attack. Had the existing forces been prepared, they could have given a suitable response to the attackers.

And one small question (2024-06-10)

Regarding ‘helping Israel against an attacking enemy’ now —

It is remarkable that דווקא the leaders of the fight for ‘draft the Haredim now,’ namely Messrs. Lapid and Gantz (whose 64th birthday was yesterday), are precisely the ones claiming that we must stop the fighting and go to a diplomatic arrangement in which security in Gaza will be handed over to a pan-Arab force.

It seems to me that Saudi Arabia and the UAE, the Palestinian Authority, Jordan, and Egypt will manage without a mass draft of yeshiva students 🙂

Regards, Fish”l

Haggai Levi (2024-06-10)

It may perhaps be noted, to reinforce the rabbi’s words, that specifically soldiers who come from more religious education are more fit to be drafted, because “once he enters into the bonds of war, he should rely on the Hope of Israel and its Savior in time of distress, and know that for the sake of God’s unity he is waging war.” And perhaps on that basis one could exempt infants captured among the gentiles who do not understand why they are fighting, who did not merit to learn Shema Yisrael and do not understand why this burden should be theirs (it is possible that had they not acted this way, the Gilad Shalit affair would have been prevented). After all, any sensible person understands that there is no point in drafting children into the army (as the secular are called).

Michi (2024-06-10)

No, and it is also quite clear to me that this did not happen.

Arik (2024-06-10)

Would you conclude from this that this whole argument was only for external consumption?

Arik (2024-06-10)

Experts greater than I, such as Dr. Yagil Henkin, have shown that a volunteer/professional army is not feasible in this country.

Michi (2024-06-10)

No. On the contrary, the lack of recommendation is for internal consumption.

H. (2024-06-10)

Hello Michi,
you write: “One could in principle argue that we are not in a situation where the army needs all the young people being drafted, and therefore the discussion we have held until now is irrelevant.”

But I do not understand this. After all, you yourself previously brought the Hazon Ish, who says that in an obligatory war there is no preference whatsoever even for a bridegroom, and the public may draft whomever it wants, even if there are enough soldiers.
Could you explain this?

Gabriel (2024-06-10)

If service becomes fully voluntary (at today’s pay), you will not have enough soldiers for a minyan.

Y.D. (2024-06-10)

I am not saying that. All I am saying is that just as there is an option for exemption from service on the basis of a religious clause for women, so one can expand that clause to men as well. A man would declare that military service is contrary to his religious belief and would be exempt from the draft. This is justified both by the principle of equality between men and women and by the unwillingness to impose religious coercion. Note that despite the exemption clause for women, most women still enlist, and in the case of men too, I think most men would enlist, including Haredim. Right now the Haredim use Torah study in yeshiva as an excuse. If they had to declare openly that it is contrary to their religion, I do not know what percentage would actually declare this and what percentage would admit Rabbi Michi’s claim that he has an obligation to enlist.

Here is a link to a practical proposal by Rabbi Stav on the matter:
https://www.inn.co.il/news/631104

And regarding ‘the tribe of Levi,’ (2024-06-10)

And regarding ‘the tribe of Levi’ — see Rabbi Yigal Kaminsky’s article on the website of Machon HaTorah VeHaAretz.

Regards, Fish”l

Gabriel (2024-06-10)

In short, on secular people you can force whatever you like — army, taxes, public transportation on Shabbat, hametz on Passover, and funding Haredim.
Religious-type citizens, by contrast, will choose whatever they want — want to serve? want to pay taxes? want to stop at a red light?

Y.D. (2024-06-10)

You also cannot force everything on the secular. You can harass one detail or another, but if the secular public as a whole stands against a certain policy, they will block it. We saw this just a year ago with the judicial reform, may it rest in peace. Also in the matter of public transportation on Shabbat, when the secular public wanted it, they achieved it through local government. Most secular people support conscription and the conscription law. Secular women demonstrate this very well. Seemingly they could obtain exemption from service (see the case of May Golan), and still they refrain from doing so.
Coercion helps the individual stand within his own belief system, but in the long run it is no substitute for choice.

y0534372487 (2024-06-11)

I definitely understand you,
and practically speaking this is certainly true — there is no point in soldiers drafted by force.
But in a case where a certain person’s obligation cannot be enforced, then he also should not receive a right.
In my opinion there should be a law that anyone who does not enlist loses certain civil rights,
for example voting, tax credits, higher taxes, and the like.
But not specifically Haredim; there should be no sectoral reference at all — every Israeli citizen.

yitzhokt2 (2024-06-11)

A parasitic outlook at such a basic level that the camel does not even see its own hump.

I will address only the final proposal: let us assume for a moment that there is no point in their sitting three years on a base for no reason (for we have learned that when we are attacked, a meager defensive force on the seam line is enough for us, and our enemies will kindly give us all the time we need to organize and bring the best of the reserves to the front in time, and from there the path to total victory is short, because who is greater than Yanki Deri in the reserves against our enemies…).

Would you agree that in your proposal the Haredim would be the ones fully conscripted, while another public — for example the one that bears more of the economic burden — would be the one that did symbolic service and would be called up only for reserves as needed?

Yossi the Haredi (2024-06-11)

I did not address the balance at all, who would be drafted more and who less. I am saying that if the claim is “saving life,” this can be prevented through different and not full service. And as stated, the economic burden will be smaller. And no, the problem on the Gaza border was not manpower, but contempt, arrogance, and insane organizational failure. If they had acted properly (just throwing out a crazy idea — one plane!!!! in the air in real time that would kill everyone at the fence), this horror would not have happened. Certainly not on such a scale.

Yossi the Haredi (2024-06-11)

I did not understand the connection. There are also those entitled to full exemption because of illnesses, mental illnesses, and so on. Did anyone think to compare them to Torah learners who are entitled to full exemption? Likewise, there is no connection at all between those entitled to shortened service for one reason or another and hesder yeshivot, which enlist for only half service.

y0534372487 (2024-06-13)

Not only them.
Also the Haredim and the Arabs.
So what?
I am ready to fight over this; it makes no sense that certain people fulfill obligations and others do not.
Imagine there were a group that did not pay tax, and they threatened to set the streets on fire if they were not given rights because of it.

Sources for further study (2024-06-13)

With God’s help, Isru Hag of Shavuot 5784

On the complex position of Torah greats regarding ‘Nahal Haredi,’ see the articles: ‘Historic exposure: the support of the גדולי ישראל for Nahal Haredi,’ on the Kikar HaShabbat site (8 Sivan 5776); and in response: ‘Distortion of the facts’ (ibid., 10 Sivan); and the article: ‘Nahal Haredi — the details are revealed: which Torah great supported and which opposed?’ (on the B’Hadrei Haredim site, 8 Sivan). See there.

Regards, Fish”l

Yitzhak (2024-06-13)

Rabbi Tzvi Schachter from YU tells everyone who asks that Jews abroad are also obligated.

Daniel (2024-06-16)

I too would be ready to fight over this. Until about 10 years ago, roughly when Yair Lapid refused to vote in favor of the Nation-State Law and brought down a government that would have granted exactly this justice. Then I understood that the center — which is really the left in disguise — is not interested in any justice at all, and the principle of equality (progressive equality) is more important to them than any justice, because that is their religion, and the Jewish people is a concept that is taboo for them. So welcome to our world. The scenario you asked me to imagine is exactly the reality in which we live, and I will no longer trust anyone who talks to me about justice — that is exactly what Yair Lapid openly declared, and that is how he sold himself. And I suspect that you are no different from him. Although I do not know you — if you have no fear of God, I am quite convinced that for the sake of power you too will forget the existence of justice… And I have a feeling the Haredim understood all this first, many years ago.

Uriel (2024-06-16)

Utter nonsense. The Haredi sector is not even aware of the nature of the challenge that global changes pose to Jewish society. The claim is not worthy of discussion beyond that.

Nisht a Frummer (2024-06-16)

Who needs them to be “aware” of anything? We are not dealing here with reciting Shema, where one needs intention. It is enough that they act. We are talking about 18 mandates against the cultural left.

Uriel (2024-06-16)

What are they doing, and what does it have to do with the progressives? Are they dodging the army in order to fight homosexuals? Studying Torah as a protest against trans people? Don’t talk in the air. Tell us about the important contribution of the Haredi desecrators of the holy to the struggle against the progressives.

Nisht a Frummer (2024-06-16)

They are a broad public whose way of life is the antithesis of all the aspirations of the cultural left. In democratic countries (Israel is approximately such a country), that has significance. And this public has anti-establishment tendencies; the state will not dictate to it what to do. There are situations in which this leads to very bad results (say, their behavior during the coronavirus epidemic), but generally I would say that their presence is positive. If they are drafted en masse into the army, will they preserve those tendencies? Presumably not.

If the price for their presence is righteous outbursts and “morality” from Michi Abraham — I’ll buy it.

Uriel (2024-06-16)

In short, as usual from Haredi propagandists: big talk. They shout from the rear of the camp that they are leading it and contributing to it. In practice, a small closed society that has no ability to exist without outside help, and whose spiritual world is as small as the budget it will, God willing, soon have.

Michi (2024-06-16)

Friends, your learned arguments have been understood to the last detail. The deletion stage is approaching. Consider yourselves warned.

Michi (2024-06-16)

For some reason I missed the question. I am not speaking about an obligatory war but about saving life (and besides, I am not bound by the words of the Hazon Ish either).

y0534372487 (2024-06-16)

So in short,
your claim is that because you believed Lapid and were disappointed (what made you think that a former journalist for Bamahaneh cared so much about justice regarding the military burden?!), therefore every injustice connected to the draft should remain?
I haven’t given up yet.

Daniel (2024-06-16)

I did not vote for Lapid in that election, but for Bennett. But I expected that the issue of the Arabs and the Haredim would be regulated in that government. Lapid prevented that, and that’s that. I had no expectation regarding some military burden, only simple justice. I do not want to draft Haredim at all, only not to give them extra rights, that’s all. Justice did not interest him, only his religion of equality. And all the rest care only about power, that’s all. Even Bennett (and later he turned out to be one of the greatest swindlers in political history). I gave up because I understood that there is a hierarchy in dealing with issues of justice, and one must solve bigger injustices before smaller ones. The dictatorship in the guise of left-wing state officials, the High Court, the security establishment, government ministries, the prosecution, and the rest of the left’s beasts is an injustice a thousand times greater than the Haredi story (and dealing with the Arabs comes before them too). Any focus on the Haredim before that is to be righteous over pennies and wicked over dollars. I will gladly join forces with the Haredim in order to deal with that first.

Karbutzlach (2024-06-16)

You can bring the Amish for the war against modernity and progressivism. They are more devout than the Haredim in that area, and if commandments and Torah are merely instruments in the hands of whoever uses them, then I also do not see a significant advantage in the spiritual sphere.

Daniel (2024-06-16)

He is right. By their very existence they are a kind of wall against the progressive virus that violently seeks to take over the West. The mere fact that the right-wing public looks at them and says to itself, “We are not alone,” already by itself restrains the moralistic and violent screams of the progressives.

Unique Haredi frameworks out of appreciation and caution (2024-06-18)

With God’s help, 12 Sivan 5784

The solution for increasing Haredi integration in the fields of security may lie in strengthening the existing beginnings of Haredi units within the army and security forces, such as ‘Tomer’ in Givati, ‘Hetz’ in the paratroopers, and ‘Netzah Yehuda’ in the Kfir Brigade, ‘Shahar’ in the Air Force, the ‘Haredi hesder yeshivot,’ and the initiative to integrate Haredim into ‘civil national service’ in the Shin Bet and Mossad, which already exist today.

There is a plan conceived by the commander of Central Command, Yehuda Fox (a graduate of ‘Beit HaTalmud’ 🙂), to draft Haredim into guard duties in communities, thus freeing soldiers for more military missions.

And of course frameworks of ‘Hesder Merkaz’ and stage two, which allow integration into reserve service for someone who studied in yeshiva for many years, can constitute a worthy solution both for intensive study and for going out to ‘help Israel against an attacking enemy’ when needed. This is the model proposed by Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook and Rabbi Hayyim David Halevi for integrating Torah and army.

And usually, when processes of integration are carried out with appreciation and respect, they have a chance to succeed, for there is also an internal need for this within the Haredi public: both for one who is unable to devote himself to Torah every day, and for one who after many years of study wants to go out to productive work.

By contrast, contempt and condescension, and steps that harm Torah learners who study devotedly, only drive Haredim away from integration frameworks.

Regards, Fish”l

Another model that can be suggested is based on the Haredi neighborhoods in northern Jerusalem, which were established in the frontier areas of northern Jerusalem before the Six-Day War, where only Haredim agreed to live.

Even in our time, it is possible that specifically young Haredi couples will go to areas of the Negev and Galilee from which many others shrink. In those Haredi towns, watch personnel and rapid-response forces from among the local residents could be integrated, receiving basic training by the army (as is done today following the events of Simchat Torah).

Patience and goodwill would help both the Haredi housing crisis and the need to strengthen the frontier areas.

Correction (2024-06-18)

In paragraph 5, line 2,
… only drive Haredim away …

Rafael (2024-06-20)

Hello, Your Honor,
I wanted to know whether it seems reasonable to the rabbi at all to communicate on such an issue with a sealed-off, hyper-scholastic halakhic ruling bordering on the autistic.
This is a broad social phenomenon, saturated with challenges and moral and practical questions, which absolutely cannot be solved by a reasoned halakhic ruling however good it may be, and that is really not where the debate lies.
By the way, as one who lived for long periods within Haredi society, I am sure you know that the cheap excuses supplied by Haredi society are not the issue, and that this is an existential anxiety and a sense of mission, certainly not the indifference and callousness you enjoy describing.
We’ll see whether you can also solve the issue of LGBT people and the gay community with a halakhic article; for some reason it seems to me that there too you would understand that scholasticism is not the issue, and compassion too needs to raise its voice.

Michi (2024-06-20)

Many thanks for the compliments. I’m really blushing.
It’s just a pity that you have a serious reading-comprehension problem. When I write a halakhic ruling, I do not mean to solve any problem, nor to provide emotional treatment to anyone. I describe the position of halakha regarding the issue, and now each person will do with that whatever he wants.
And as for your charming descriptions of Haredi society, it is evident that you are one of Rabbi Levi Yitzhak’s disciples from Berdichev. But through my many sins and abundant callousness, Hasidism never spoke to me.

Rafael (2024-06-20)

Reading again, I truly see that I should have been more careful with my language and with your honor, and I apologize; it was written in the heat of the moment.
As for the substance, it is disingenuous to call the letter cited above, based on the article, a purely dry halakhic ruling, and it is also disingenuous to say that dry halakha in your view is the whole picture (again, would such a letter and such a ruling have been issued about the LGBT community?)
And indeed, I do not think the Haredi community is outside the category of “every person,” whom one should judge favorably.

y0534372487 (2024-06-20)

I do not judge favorably a person who sends others to fight for him so that, heaven forbid, he will not leave his bubble and can continue his life as usual.
By the way, even if there were a halakhic ruling exempting one from enlistment, does it sound reasonable to you to freeload on everyone else?
You are very, very patient with the Haredim — too patient.

Rafael (2024-06-20)

I understand that from your perspective, judging favorably means judging someone who does good things…
All of you here are ignoring the central point, namely that one can argue whether a Haredi public is needed or not, but one thing is clear: if today the Haredi public sends all its youth to yeshivot, it ceases to exist as a public.
That is a sacrifice it may need to make or may not need to make; it is a dilemma no other public faces, and here you are seizing on the plain sense of Rambam, or presenting them as a gang of corrupt people with no heart or soul who just want others to die for them.

Michi (2024-06-20)

Obviously. Any gang of robbers, once you force them to obey the law or go to prison, will cease to exist. No wonder one must have compassion on robbers.

Michi (2024-06-20)

There is absolutely no need to be careful about my honor, and my honor is not the issue here. I have written more than once that I have no problem at all with sharp and cynical writing, so long as it is only a form for advancing arguments. But when there are no arguments, the problem is not the sharpness but the lack of arguments. So leave hurt feelings and honor out of this. You are welcome to mock me as much as you like and as sharply as you like, so long as there are arguments in what you say. But here there are none.

Michi (2024-06-20)

He did not reject judging favorably because the act is bad, but because the people or the group are bad. They do not act as your people. So your argument is not relevant.
But he is not right, and neither are you. Judging favorably is not a religious obligation toward someone who acts as your people, but an obligation to interpret actions correctly. Nor is there any obligation to judge favorably when it is not reasonable. This is a common mistake in understanding the mishnah. I have also written about this several times in the past, for example in the article on Occam’s razor.

Rafael (2024-06-20)

To look at the Haredim as a gang of robbers is again a narrow-minded, ill-intentioned view, since we all know that no one decided to establish a parasitic gang. Rather, these are people living out of a whole worldview of separating from the secular sphere and creating a world of their own, thinking that this is the right response to the secularization that appeared over the last hundreds of years.
One of the moral prices entailed by this is non-enlistment, and that is serious, and one must discuss whether it is worth it; but to present it as though the annulment of their whole worldview has no significance is simply unfair.

Rafael (2024-06-20)

Again, to judge the group at its core as evil is an extremism I do not know where you derive from, and as above,
and my claim is that the correct interpretation of Haredi actions is religious anxiety and existential anxiety, certainly not acts of wickedness and callousness, as it is easy and convenient to say.

Rafael (2024-06-20)

I understand. In any case, I do try to preserve the honor of those with whom I speak, and I will try to do so even when writing to you (by the way, even in my opening message I tried to characterize the article and certainly not the writer, and even that came out to me as coarse and improper).

H (2024-06-26)

Hello Rabbi Michi,
after all, according to halakha one may appoint to all positions only fit people. And certainly Sabbath desecrators are disqualified from being appointed to any office whatsoever.
And seemingly, if it was done, it is ineffective.
Why then do you attribute halakhic significance to the government and its decisions?
If the appointment has no validity, then there is no government here, and consequently no dina de-malkhuta or communal ordinance either.

Michi (2024-06-26)

What a magnificent pilpul! So, here is the answer. How do you know that there is a prohibition against appointing Sabbath desecrators to all positions? And even to the city notables? And how do you know that if they were appointed it is ineffective? Did Ahab not have the status of king? As for “if it was done, it is ineffective,” there are views in Rambam that the halakha is not so. But that is not important, because this rule probably is not relevant to this case at all. Ahab proves it. And in any case, “they accepted them upon themselves” is effective for witnesses and judges. And beyond all that, why is dina de-malkhuta related to our issue at all? I explained that there is saving life here and an obligation to defend ourselves, and that has not the slightest connection to the nature of the monarchy and its authority. This is not an obligatory war but saving life.
In my understanding this question is more related to Column 629 than to here. I am amazed at how people are exempted from military service in order to study Torah, and in the end this is what we get. Is this Torah, and is this its reward? Or perhaps the exemption is so that they will finally begin to learn something…

Shimon Shai (2024-06-26)

If we take Rav Sherira Gaon’s words about the death of Rabbi Akiva’s 24,000 students, who died in the Bar Kokhba war, we can extract from this another insight showing that in practice the midrash about a thousand per tribe was not realized in historical reality. For if there were 24,000 students, there should have been 24 million students studying opposite them.

Instead of fines — incentives! (2024-06-26)

With God’s help, 20 Sivan 5784

To Y — greetings,

In my humble opinion, the effective way is not fines and deprivation of rights, which does not arouse motivation at all, but creating positive incentives that encourage enlistment. And as I suggested, combining combat service with studies. Even someone who is not ‘religious’ could defer his service until the completion of his academic studies, and whoever wants to combine military service with studies would receive a scholarship from the army to fund his studies.

Regards, Fish”l

H (2024-06-26)

As for your question about the source of the prohibition on appointing Sabbath desecrators or in general people lacking fear of Heaven, let the master see Rambam, Hilkhot Melakhim chapter 1, halakha 7 — “And anyone who has no fear of Heaven, even though his wisdom is great, is not appointed to any of the appointments in Israel.” Similarly, the Rema writes (Hoshen Mishpat, laws of testimony, siman 37, סעיף 22): “The leaders of the community appointed to deal with the needs of the public or individuals are like judges, and they may not seat among them anyone disqualified from judging because of wickedness.”

As for “if it was done, it is ineffective” — Rambam writes (Hilkhot Sanhedrin chapter 2, halakha 9): “A court of three in which one of them was a convert is disqualified.” It is clear from Rambam that even if they have already been appointed to serve as judges, it is still a disqualified court. And clearly that is the law for all those disqualified, as indeed is clear from Shevuot 30b, and from Rambam, Hilkhot Sanhedrin chapter 22, halakha 10 — “A judge who knows of his colleague that he is a robber or wicked may not join with him,” from which it follows that the appointment itself is ineffective, but rather it is forbidden to sit with him in judgment.
Also from another place in Rambam one sees that if part of the court is disqualified due to wickedness, then there is no court here at all, for Rambam, Hilkhot Sanhedrin chapter 2, halakha 14 writes: “And it is forbidden for a wise person to sit in judgment until he knows with whom he is sitting, lest he join with unfit people and thus be included in the company of traitors and not in a court.”

And since the decisors I mentioned have already written that the city’s notables have the status of a court, it is clear that even after the fact their acts have no binding validity and they are not considered a court at all.
And therefore in practice there is no room at all to regard the government and the municipality and their branches as the seven good men of the city or as a communal ordinance so long as people lacking fear of Heaven sit there.

Michi (2024-06-26)

See on this matter my article on appointing a convert to positions of authority. In my opinion there is no prohibition in this at all, especially in our time, except for a judge and the like. And even in their case there is the rule of “they accepted them upon themselves,” so acceptance is effective. And I already mentioned to you Ahab and the other kings of Israel, who had the status of king. And the prohibition on a judge joining a wicked person is when they did not accept him upon themselves. According to you, whether the appointment is ineffective depends on the dispute between Abaye and Rava whether if it was done it is effective or not? Are you serious?
In short, empty pilpul, as above.

Arkadi (2024-07-04)

If it were the case that the economic and security situation allowed not all the people to enlist, is there any value in easing the burden on the serving public, or is it preferable that we study Torah even if not as Torah scholars?
Is there value in participating in the war?
From what I understood, that is the main claim of the Haredim.

Michi (2024-07-04)

Everyone has to take part in the military effort. There is no such thing as a situation that allows not drafting everyone. What is the line of what is unnecessary? 100 days of reserve duty a year? 50? 200? It is an undefined question. Beyond that, if soldiers are not needed, then shorten service for everyone, or have a professional army, or thin out enlistment in all populations.

A Haredi brigade in the making (2024-07-04)

On a Haredi brigade currently being formed — see the article ‘A Brigade with Faith’ (in Besheva, Shelach 5784).

Regards, Fish”l

Arkadi (2024-07-04)

What I meant to ask is: what is the halakhic source for equality in the burden? The current situation is beyond helping with the burden; it is saving life, because a large army is needed and the reserve burden, which gravely harms the economy, must be reduced, and these are needs even Torah scholars must address. But is there only an obligation to participate in order to ease the burden on the serving public — reducing the years of service, an obligation that is not about saving life but about improving life?

Michi (2024-07-04)

There is no difference at all between helping with the burden and saving life. The partnership is not good for those who bear the burden in order for them to be righteous. The obligation to serve lies on everyone. If you and I both owe money to so-and-so, you need to pay like I do not because of equality in the burden but because the debt belongs to both of us. If we are all in danger, we all need to fight. This whole way of looking at it is crooked (though unfortunately typical of Haredim).

mortallytidalwave06d20e4dce (2024-07-11)

If the outlook on this is like the outlook on a tax, then what if one really wants to leave the country and the state does not let him?
And does an argument such as “this one benefits and that one loses” apply here, in saying that I would have left the country?
In general, according to the Haredi outlook that this indeed corrupts, is there an exemption from money because of religious persecution?
(I am speaking about zealots who derive no benefit from the army; regarding the non-zealots it depends on the previous questions.) Thanks.

Eli (2024-07-11)

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Eli (2024-07-11)

There is another question here: in democratic conduct, is it permitted to be corrupt? That is, the discussion about enlisting is with the state and not with the army, and if so, under the current form of state leadership, why shouldn’t everyone extort according to his own priorities?

Michi (2024-07-11)

Why does the state not let him? Let him leave. As long as he is here, all the obligations apply to him.
There is no exemption from money or any other obligation because of fabricated claims of religious persecution, even if there were something to them. You cannot refrain from paying a debt to someone because you fear religious persecution. That is your problem, not his. I see no connection whatsoever to “this one benefits and that one loses.”
In general, I am already quite tired of dealing with these Haredi arguments of nonsense. See Column 609. It seems to me the idiocy has been sufficiently demonstrated by the questions here on the site. We’ve exhausted it.

Michi (2024-07-11)

I assume you mean “corrupt” (and not “slaughtered”). See the end of my previous answer.

And the interview with Rabbi Leibel (2024-07-16)

More on the ‘Haredi brigade’ plan in Shaul Amsterdamski’s interview with Rabbi David Leibel, ‘The rabbi who will draft thousands of Haredim.’

Regards, Fish”l

And perhaps? (2024-07-16)

Perhaps the solution is for Haredim to enlist in units of yeshiva students from Religious Zionism.

The built-in problem of the Haredi units described by Rabbi David Leibel is that whoever arrives there already has some kind of ‘outward gaze,’ and in many cases has gone through a ‘fall’ or a ‘crisis.’

Precisely the encounter with yeshiva students from Religious Zionism, whose tendency is to strengthen their Torah side, may return a Haredi boy who is in a spiritual ‘crisis’ and raise him again onto a path of growth and Torah strengthening.

Regards, Fish”l

mikyab123 (2024-08-02)

https://www.inn.co.il/news/644673
They are not relying on “Torah protects and saves.”

Upholding the Torah without compromise (2024-08-18)

Hello, my name is Yitzhak, a yeshiva student of draft age, and I am prepared to die rather than enlist.
Yes, you heard right: I have a value that is even more important to me than life itself, and that is to remain attached to God and His Torah.
I will not do what the state tells me to do, nor what Rabbi Michael tells me; I will do only what the Creator of the world commands me, for my whole role in the world is to fulfill His will.
I very much want to enlist in the army, to protect our brothers, to protect the state. But I have a value above all else — the Torah.
All that remains is to clarify what the Torah’s view is on the matter.

1. Given the current situation, it is clear that the Torah would forbid serving in the IDF as presently structured. For if in something as small as chewing gum a religious Jew must ensure there is kosher fish gelatin, flavorings and fragrances from plant sources, separation of tithes, bishul Yisrael, and more and more, then obviously one cannot enter an entire non-religious [or religiously compromising] establishment run by such people and manage to keep the Torah. Therefore, certainly the only possible way to draft Haredim would be through broad changes in every area of kashrut / Sabbath observance / women / prayers / the military oath, and more.
2. Regarding the principle of army service versus Torah study, the Torah encourages both obligatory and discretionary wars, as explained at length in the above article. But of course they would have to act only according to a rabbinic court that would decide how many soldiers are needed and how many can remain to study, and not before they also take a bridegroom from his chamber and the like out to battle.
3. The decision-makers on every subject connected with Haredi soldiers would have to be a Torah court. For example, according to the Torah it is not clear that a soldier is permitted to fight in Gaza when there is even a very remote danger to the hostages there; or conversely, it may be that there is no permission not to erase Gaza entirely, including the hostages and including the civilians, in order to bring about a state in which there will be no threat to any Jew in the land. Therefore before every mission one would need to consult Torah authority; this is no joke, these are questions of capital law.
4. There are halakhot governing how one must go out to the army, and going out to war without the anointing of ‘the anointed priest,’ for example, is the neglect of a positive commandment. And so too the obligation to blow trumpets / the prohibition on women carrying weapons / sending back ‘the man who is fearful and fainthearted’ and the others, and more.
There may be those who would oppose conscription into the IDF as a body that is not generally observant of Torah and commandments, or because of forcing the end, or provoking the nations of the world, and the like.

Indeed, these issues should be approached not as a matter of outlook but as a halakhic question, and one should proceed according to a halakhic ruling from a rabbinic court.
Of course this whole matter must be approached substantively and not superficially. Most of the claims against the Haredim are shallow and superficial, such as “Why are there no funerals in Bnei Brak?” and “Why should a Haredi mother sleep better at night?” The question is what one ought to do, and if what one ought to do is remain studying Torah, then what is the point of going and risking oneself? One may as well jump off the roof at home.
And on the other side there are claims that are not even foolish, such as “The Haredim volunteer with Yad Sarah, Ezer Mizion, and ZAKA,” which of course does not come close to military service [have you ever thought of the Haredim serving in the army and the secular volunteering at Ezer Mizion?].

And of course one should remember that those who represent the Haredi public certainly are not broadcasters and politicians who were expelled from the yeshivot before they even entered them.

And one should also note that the public will not cooperate with those who want to draft them only for their political status or their hatred of Haredim, which at the moment happens to have hitched a ride on IDF conscription [while until half a year ago they were encouraging refusal…]

Michi (2024-08-18)

Hello Yitzhak.
You are very emphatic, and it is clear that you are confident in your path. The question is whether you are also prepared to listen. If so, I will try to address your claims briefly (though I have already addressed all of them).

1. Self-sacrifice is measured against actual challenges, not pompous declarations. The question whether you are willing to die rather than enlist will be tested when you stand in front of the barrel of a rifle, not in front of a keyboard in a democratic country that in any case does nothing to you (apart from funding you). So permit me not to be impressed by the decisiveness and self-sacrifice in your words.
2. No one asked you to do what Michael Abraham says. What I wrote is, to the best of my understanding, the view of the Torah and halakha, and therefore my expectation that you enlist is because halakha and morality say so, not because I wrote it. If you dispute my claims, that is entirely legitimate, and you must substantiate that with arguments on the merits, not with empty and irrelevant declarations of rebellion and self-sacrifice.
3. Your substantive claims are of course absurd, for two main reasons:
A. Those going out to war may even eat actually forbidden foods, so certainly they may have gelatin under the Rabbinate’s certification. And the same goes for the other imaginary prohibitions that come to your minds.
But even if I were not right about this, there is another problem:
B. The obligation to prepare the army so that Haredim can serve in it rests on you and on all of you, not on me. You are part of the state, and the obligation to serve falls on all of us. If you have special demands, kindly see to implementing them. At present the government contains all the Haredi parties. And even you wild men from your group, who do not accept them as representatives and prefer to scream on the keyboard about being willing to die, kindly see to all this yourselves. You are not lifting a finger to make it happen, and you assume that the task is on us to roll out a red carpet for you at the induction center, because by enlisting you are doing us a favor. That is of course completely absurd.
4. I will not deal here with the collection of fools who lead the cult of Ditchon, whom you casually appoint here to lead us in war and make decisions for all of us. That really is another matter. I would suggest they first be weaned from pacifiers and then we can talk.

Chaim (2024-10-30)

Fifty percent of the people, if not more (depending on which channel you watch…), are in favor of stopping the war now, here and immediately—if Hamas releases all the hostages. The overwhelming majority of security officials are in favor of this. So what ‘obligatory war’ are you talking about, Rabbi?

Shmuel (2024-10-30)

At least half the people, including the security establishment, are eager to stop the war this instant if all the hostages return. There is no war. Nothing. So what ‘obligatory war’ are you talking about?
If Hamas is willing right now to make a deal, the war ends.
Is this an ‘obligatory war’ or populism?

Michi (2024-10-30)

Who spoke about an obligatory war? Do you bother reading before you comment?
As for your assumptions, what most of the public wants does not really matter, and it is also not true that this is the data (it depends how and what you ask). And the same goes for the security officials: first, it depends how and whom you count, and beyond that it is not at all certain that they are the ones who determine things or that their position is in fact correct.

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