Q&A: Haredim Inciting Against Themselves
Haredim Inciting Against Themselves
Question
Hello and blessings,
Is spreading fake incitement for the sake of a struggle a legitimate step, and more generally, can a culture of fakes be considered legitimate under certain conditions?
https://rotter.net/forum/scoops1/654261.shtml
Best regards, Benjamin
Answer
I didn’t read it. If it isn’t presented as documentation and reporting, then there is no principled problem. Otherwise it is ugly falsehood.
Discussion on Answer
For example, here. Reverse impersonation, and much less media noise.
https://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/5715539
Why should that make noise? That’s journalistic work as it ought to be.
What a shame,
just when the Haredi public
does a little satire
I thought that on the other side there would at least be some people who understand jokes
that are no worse, professionally speaking, than the ones done on the show The Jews Are Coming.
This kind of answers what everyone keeps lamenting—why do you get offended? Make counter-satire,
let’s see you for once paying back in the same coin.
And then along comes the yeshiva guy, hikes up his frock coat, gathers courage, hires a real actor,
and releases some joke (successful or not—that’s a matter of taste)
and poof—everyone in chorus:
Shame on you, fire them, cut out their tongue, you stirrers of dispute. It’s Elul and all that.
Have you gone off the rails?
To Hershele — warm greetings,
The case at hand is not comparable to the proof. Satire is the right of the oppressed minority to criticize the hegemonic regime. But in our country, the Haredim are the ruling majority. 🙂
Best regards,
Samson in his generation is like Aaron in his generation, the hegemon of the House of Privileginger
Hershele, in principle you’re right, but since the opposite result in the public discourse was known in advance, it turns out that whoever did this acted against all logic and against the residents, using their own money!
https://www.kikar.co.il/374101.html
I think that from this lie (this idiotic one; whether it’s ugly is a matter of semantics), the main people harmed were the Haredim. It creates a “wolf, wolf” feeling, and that’s a shame, because the wolves really do come every couple of days and devour a few kids. If the cry of “wolf” comes specifically in a staged video, then the thousand wolves that come afterward won’t move anyone. The municipal official who used property-tax money for matters that harm the residents should be fired / put on trial!
You shouldn’t infer from the behavior of one idiot or another about society as a whole. I’m sure that despite the correct message they wanted to convey in this video, most Haredim would oppose putting out this fake, because there is simply no shortage of real videos of exclusion of Haredim in nearby Ramat Gan and in quite a few other places.