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Dispute and Truth – Lesson 2

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Table of Contents

  • The emptiness of the logical argument and begging the question
  • Induction, analogy, and Mill’s problem
  • The failure of attempts to prove things without premises
  • Proofs for the existence of God and their lack of persuasive force for an atheist
  • Certainty, the laws of logic, and the issue of contradictions with respect to the Holy One, blessed be He
  • The three responses to analytic emptiness: fundamentalism, pluralism, and synthesis
  • Intuition, faith, and non-sensory cognitive ability
  • Kant: analytic/synthetic versus a priori/a posteriori, and the problem of the synthetic a priori
  • Laws of nature, generalization, and the challenge to the validity of science
  • “The eyes of the intellect” and intuition as a condition for learning from experience
  • The psychometric exam, conformity, and the limits of teaching from examples
  • “I feel” as intuition and as emotion, and the distinction between a claim about the world and a report about a mental state
  • Truth as correspondence to the world and the distinction between validity and truth
  • “These and those are the words of the living God,” monism, and descriptive versus essential pluralism
  • Aesthetic taste as a dispute about the world according to C. S. Lewis
  • A historical introduction to the emergence of dispute in the halakhic world
  • Tractate Avot: “received and transmitted” until the break, and then “he had five disciples”
  • Yavneh, destruction, and the generation of Rabban Gamliel–Rabbi Eliezer–Rabbi Yehoshua
  • Shimon HaTzaddik, Alexander the Great, and Greece as the infrastructure for the tools of the Oral Torah
  • Summary of the direction ahead: absolute truth versus a world of dispute that is not simple

Summary

General Overview

The text lays out a philosophical framework for a series of lectures on dispute and truth through an analysis of the status of the logical argument, the limits of certainty, and the need for foundational assumptions that cannot be proven. It proposes three possible responses to logical emptiness and dependence on assumptions: fundamentalism, which tries to attain certainty regarding assumptions through transcendent means; pluralism/postmodernism, which infers from the multiplicity of assumptions a multiplicity of “truths”; and a synthetic position, which accepts the legitimacy of non-certain claims on the basis of common sense and intuition, with a “warning label.” It then sharpens the point that truth is not logical consistency but correspondence to the state of affairs in the world, and from there raises the need to understand how “these and those are the words of the living God” can be possible within a monistic world of absolute truth. Finally, it moves to a historical-halakhic introduction to the emergence of dispute in the Oral Torah, through tractate Avot, the sages of Yavneh, and the stories of Rabban Gamliel, Rabbi Yehoshua, and Rabbi Eliezer, while linking this to the development of systematic thinking and the encounter with Greece.

The emptiness of the logical argument and begging the question

A logical argument is defined as an inference that derives a conclusion from premises, and the conclusion has no status beyond what is already found in the premises. The text states that every logical argument “begs the question,” and explains that begging the question is not a fallacy but a synonym for a valid argument, except that at times it is trivial and therefore appears worthless. A logical argument does not add information, but at most exposes information already embedded in the premises; therefore logical certainty pertains only to derivation and not to the truth of the premises.

Induction, analogy, and Mill’s problem

The text distinguishes between deduction on the one hand and induction and analogy on the other, and states that arguments from the particular to the general or from one particular to another add information and therefore are not necessary and carry a speculative dimension. It cites John Stuart Mill’s problem, according to which even deduction relies in practice on general premises whose source is induction, and therefore the conclusion is not “certain” unless one adopts the premises. It emphasizes that derivation from premises is certain, but adopting the conclusion requires examining and adopting premises for which there is no proof. From this it follows that someone who insists on accepting only what is proven is left unable to accept any claim at all.

The failure of attempts to prove things without premises

The text describes “heroic” attempts to produce a conclusion without premises, mentioning Descartes’ cogito and Anselm’s ontological argument for the existence of God. It states that all these attempts fail, and attributes to Kant the critique of ontological arguments. It concludes that one has to live with the fact that there is no correct conclusion “by its own force” without premises, and therefore one can always ask why the premises should be adopted.

Proofs for the existence of God and their lack of persuasive force for an atheist

The text argues that a logical proof for the existence of God will not persuade an atheist, because if the conclusion follows from premises the atheist does not accept, it will have no effect. It says such a proof may persuade only someone who thinks he is an atheist but is in fact a “hidden believer” or an “unconscious believer,” because the conclusion is already hidden within premises he accepted in advance. It rejects a substantive distinction between positive proof and proof by negation, and states that this is merely a semantic matter so long as we are dealing with valid logical inference.

Certainty, the laws of logic, and the issue of contradictions with respect to the Holy One, blessed be He

The text states that there is no certainty regarding any claim in the world unless it is an “empty claim,” such as the law of non-contradiction, the law of the excluded middle, and the law of identity, because they do not add information but define forms of thinking. It gives the example that even the statement “we are in a lecture” is not certain, because a person could be made to think so by technological means. It distinguishes between “laws” of logic and laws of physics and laws enacted by parliament, and argues that the laws of logic are not laws that are legislated but are true in every possible world, and therefore there is no real meaning to speaking of being “subject” to them. It states that contradiction cannot be attributed to God, and interprets questions such as “a stone the omnipotent one cannot lift” as meaningless words, similar to a “round triangle,” because they attempt to define a contradictory object.

The three responses to analytic emptiness: fundamentalism, pluralism, and synthesis

The text states that analytic-logical thinking is “empty” and cannot add information, and sees this as the basis for three positions. It describes pluralists/postmodernists/skeptics as those who infer from the emptiness of logic that each person derives different conclusions from different premises and therefore “everyone has his own narrative,” especially when they recognize only logical inference as binding and reject claims of common sense as speculation. It describes fundamentalism as a position that admits dependence on premises but claims there is a way to reach certainty about them through mystical, transcendent, religious, or communication-like means, presenting this as an alternative way of attaining certainty in premises. It presents a synthetic position that accepts claims as legitimate even though they are not certain, relies on common sense and plausibility, and distinguishes itself both from dogmatic fundamentalism and from skepticism that places a claim and its opposite on the same level.

Intuition, faith, and non-sensory cognitive ability

The text presents the possible justification for trusting uncertain foundational assumptions as the assumption that a person has a cognitive ability to recognize truths in a non-sensory way. It mentions David Hume’s foundational questions about the principle of causality and the principle of induction, and presents a unified Kantian formulation: who says that what is not certain is true? It argues that the synthetic path requires intellectual honesty: recognizing the possibility of error, willingness to hear dissenters, to cross-check and reconsider, in contrast to the dogmatist.

Kant: analytic/synthetic versus a priori/a posteriori, and the problem of the synthetic a priori

The text lays out Kant’s two axes: an epistemic axis of a priori versus a posteriori, and a logical axis of analytic versus synthetic, illustrating analytic statements such as “every bachelor is unmarried” and synthetic statements such as “this ball is heavy.” It describes the expectation of four categories, but also the accepted overlap between analytic and a priori and between synthetic and a posteriori. It presents Kant’s innovation regarding the existence of synthetic a priori judgments, and illustrates this by means of laws of nature such as the law of gravitation, which do not follow from the definitions of the concepts and are not merely the result of observation, because observation supplies particular cases while the general law requires generalization.

Laws of nature, generalization, and the challenge to the validity of science

The text describes the difficulty: how can one accumulate information about the world beyond observation, when generalization is an act of thought and there are infinitely many possible generalizations. It notes that there is a claim that laws of nature are “a statement about us” and not about the world, but says this cannot be right, even while acknowledging that some philosophers claim this. It describes a common pragmatic position according to which laws of nature are not certain but are “the best we’ve got” and “it works,” and combines this with an engineering anecdote about the gap between mathematical correctness and practical functioning.

“The eyes of the intellect” and intuition as a condition for learning from experience

The text presents a solution that it sees as the only possible one: an intellectual capacity of intuition that makes it possible to identify general truths directly. It says, “I see the law of gravitation” not with the eyes, but with what Maimonides calls at the beginning of Guide for the Perplexed “the eyes of the intellect,” and interprets this as an ability of the intellect not only to analyze data but also to know. It argues that intuition is not the product of learning from experience but a condition for learning, because without intuitive direction one can generalize any set of facts in infinitely many ways. It compares this to Chomsky’s claim of an innate linguistic capacity that is not acquired, and brings in Wittgenstein’s problem of following a rule to show that there is no unique necessity from the examples to one particular generalization.

The psychometric exam, conformity, and the limits of teaching from examples

The text uses the example of a numerical sequence to show that it can be continued in many ways, and therefore different answers can be “possible” formally. It argues that the psychometric exam “tests conformity,” meaning who thinks the way “everyone thinks,” and emphasizes that this is not identical with genius or lack of genius. It continues with the example of learning to count to one hundred thousand in order to show that teaching is bottom up, from examples to a rule, and it assumes the student will generalize in the same way; if the student generalizes differently, there is no way to teach him within that framework.

“I feel” as intuition and as emotion, and the distinction between a claim about the world and a report about a mental state

The text describes an example of solving a mathematical problem that is pulled out “immediately” from a feeling, and distinguishes between “feel” in the emotional sense, which is not a claim about the world, and “feel” in the intuitive sense, which is directed toward a claim that can be checked as true or false. It explains that the confusion arises because in both cases no rigorous logical justification is readily available, but in intuition the product is a claim about the world and not merely a report on a mental state. It emphasizes that intuition is not a magic word, that it must be checked because of the danger of biases, and that even after checking there remains a “warning label,” but it is still legitimate because there is no better tool.

Truth as correspondence to the world and the distinction between validity and truth

The text defines truth as the result of comparing a claim to the state of affairs in the world, and states that truth and falsehood are properties of claims, not of facts. It distinguishes between the truth and falsehood of claims and the validity and invalidity of arguments, and illustrates that one can construct a valid argument from false premises and reach a false conclusion. It formulates the one connection: in a valid argument it cannot happen that the premises are true and the conclusion false.

“These and those are the words of the living God,” monism, and descriptive versus essential pluralism

The text rejects an interpretation that reduces “these and those are the words of the living God” to the trivial claim of consistency with premises, and aims at an understanding according to which there is truth on both sides. It states that the concept of truth is absolute and not merely a relativity of consistency, and emphasizes that it operates within a “monistic world” of one absolute truth. It distinguishes between descriptive pluralism, which is the fact that there are groups and people in the world with different positions, and essential pluralism, which claims a multiplicity of truths or the abolition of the concept of “being right,” and places the future discussion of dispute within this distinction.

Aesthetic taste as a dispute about the world according to C. S. Lewis

The text cites C. S. Lewis from his book The Abolition of Man in order to reject the claim that aesthetic arguments are only descriptions of subjective feelings. It argues that when a person says a waterfall is “sublime,” he is saying something about the waterfall as being fit to arouse feelings of sublimity, and if someone is not so moved then “something is off with him,” according to the claim. It concludes that there is reason to argue about taste, because the argument presupposes correct and incorrect criteria for judgment.

A historical introduction to the emergence of dispute in the halakhic world

The text presents a transition from the introduction about truth to an introduction about dispute through a historical perspective in the world of Jewish law. It points to powerful aggadic passages with shared literary tension, such as the Oven of Akhnai and the deposition of Rabban Gamliel, and links them to a particular historical moment of crisis and renewal in the formation of dispute. It argues that many stories in the Talmud revolve around that same context even if they do not mention it explicitly, and describes this as a portrayal of the emergence of dispute in the halakhic world.

Tractate Avot: “received and transmitted” until the break, and then “he had five disciples”

The text reads chapter 1 of Avot as an ethos of continuous transmission: “Moses received the Torah at Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua,” and so on until the Men of the Great Assembly, and notes that the statements at the beginning of the period are collective and without names. It points to Shimon HaTzaddik as the first person to whom Torah sayings are attributed individually, and from there the attribution of Torah to private figures increases. It notes Rashi’s tradition and the Jerusalem Talmud in Chagigah about the dispute over laying hands on a sacrifice on a Jewish holiday between Yose ben Yoezer and Yose ben Yochanan as the first dispute in the Oral Torah that remained and was preserved. It emphasizes the anomaly in chapter 2: after what appears to be a chronological sequence, there appears “Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai received from Hillel and Shammai,” and after that, “he had five disciples,” without the language of “received and transmitted,” and interprets this as a sign that something broke in the mechanism of transmission.

Yavneh, destruction, and the generation of Rabban Gamliel–Rabbi Eliezer–Rabbi Yehoshua

The text attributes the transition to the period of Yavneh and to Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai’s request for “Yavneh and its sages,” as the founding of the center of the sages of Yavneh and the beginning of the age of the Tannaim in the full sense. It places the first generation of tension around Rabban Gamliel, Rabbi Eliezer, and Rabbi Yehoshua, and also notes the entrance of Rabbi Akiva and after him younger generations. It argues that this generation is the explosion point of a long process in which the Oral Torah becomes a human creation and not merely transmission through “hollow pipes,” and from there dispute becomes built in.

Shimon HaTzaddik, Alexander the Great, and Greece as the infrastructure for the tools of the Oral Torah

The text brings the aggadic story about Alexander the Great bowing to Shimon HaTzaddik and explains that it is not historical, and therefore its significance lies in the way it was constructed. It proposes a historiosophical reading according to which the crystallization of the Oral Torah required the tools of philosophy and logic, and these tools came through the encounter with Greece, which was traumatic but also had a positive dimension in the spirit of “May the beauty of Japheth dwell in the tents of Shem.” It notes the description of darkness in the world at the time of the translation of the Torah into Greek alongside traditions that attribute a unique status to Greek, and concludes that the systematic thinking organized in Greece enabled the sages to develop arguments, proofs, practical distinctions, and disputes as part of a Torah of human beings.

Summary of the direction ahead: absolute truth versus a world of dispute that is not simple

The text states that the concept of truth remains absolute and subject to correspondence with the world, but the world of dispute does not simply lead to the conclusion that one side is right and the other wrong in every case. It presents the continuation of the series as a deepening of the question of how to understand halakhic disputes and contradictory positions within a monism of truth, and especially how to understand “these and those are the words of the living God” against the background of the history of the formation of the Oral Torah and the culture of dispute in Yavneh.

Full Transcript

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] We’re dealing with the topic of dispute and truth, in this series on dispute and truth. Last time I spoke a bit about concepts of truth and described them through some skeletal model of development. Whoever wasn’t here, I recommend maybe listening to the recording; everything goes up to the site after the lectures. Whoever wants to listen again, or whoever wasn’t here, I recommend listening because things are built a bit one on top of another. Is it on YouTube? It’s also on YouTube, yes, also on my site, in the series on dispute and truth, you can find it there. No, on my site. Yes, it’s also on YouTube, but what’s it under? Responsa and Articles, that’s what it’s called. Responsa and Articles. It’s called if you want to shoot, shoot, don’t talk. So yes, look for the lecture series on dispute and truth, and the recordings will show up there. So I talked a bit about the formation of dispute, not actually about dispute itself but about the emergence of a split in the concept of truth. I said that basically at the end of this process of development three possible branches are created. One branch is fundamentalist, a second branch is postmodern, if you like, analytic, and the third branch is a synthetic branch. And what really stands behind this is our attitude toward the logical argument. A logical argument is an argument that derives a conclusion from premises. And now I remember that you were, yes. An argument that derives a conclusion from premises, and we saw that the conclusion cannot have a status beyond what there is in the premises. All the conclusion does is derive or expose certain information that is embedded in some way in the premises, which is why I said that every logical argument basically begs the question. Begging the question is not a fallacy; begging the question is another name for a valid logical argument. What people usually call begging the question as a fallacy—why do they see it as a fallacy? Because sometimes it’s too banal a case of begging the question, too trivial, so they see it as a fallacy or as a worthless argument. But really every mathematical proof, or geometrical proof, or whatever, in logic, is a kind of begging the question. Logical inference is begging the question. What that basically means is that a logical argument can’t add information for me. All this we saw last time. A logical argument can’t add information for me. In other words, at most it extracts information that is embedded in some way within the premises. If we want to add information, then we need to use not logical arguments—or what I generally call deduction, inference from the general to the particular—but other kinds of arguments, inference from the particular to the general or from the particular to the particular, induction or analogy. Those are non-necessary arguments, and the reason they are non-necessary is precisely because those arguments add some information for us. Say we make an analogy: I say this bag is black, that one is also a bag, therefore that one is black too. But from the fact that this bag is black, the fact that that bag is black is not also contained there. The conclusion that that bag is black is a conclusion that contains more information than what I had at the stage of the premises. In other words, that argument added information for me. Same with induction, if I infer this about all bags, that they’re black. So arguments from analogy and induction are arguments that add information for me. And exactly because of that, they are not necessary arguments. The hot-air balloon, right? We talked about the joke with the hot-air balloon. Exactly because of that, those arguments are not necessary arguments; they involve a measure of speculation. In contrast, logical, mathematical, deductive arguments are arguments that contain not even the slightest trace of speculation, because I’m not adding any information beyond what I already knew. It adds nothing, so I’m taking no risk. It’s certainly true. It can’t turn out to be false—when I say true, of course I mean follows from the premises. Not false, unless the premises are true, then this too is true. But all I can say is only about the derivation; I can’t speak about the premise itself. We talked about Mill’s problem, John Stuart Mill, about the problem Mill raised regarding deduction. How can you treat the conclusion as necessary or certain if it’s based on a major premise, and that major premise is the product of induction? All human beings are mortal, Socrates is a human being, conclusion: Socrates is mortal. How do you know that all human beings are mortal? From induction. You saw some people die and you assume this is true of all people. So basically every deduction implicitly hides an induction behind it. And therefore it’s impossible to see deduction as some tool free of the possibility of error. Of course the derivation of the conclusion from the premises is error-free, certainly true. But the conclusion itself, if I want to adopt it, I have to examine the premises. Without adopting the premises, the conclusion has no standing. And therefore this confusion about logical arguments, which is actually simple, but a lot of people don’t notice it because the assumption—the assumption of the teenager in the argument I described last time, who says, prove it to me or I won’t accept it. So you’re assuming that you can live only with things that were proven to you, but there is no such thing, because every proof is based on foundational premises. The foundational premises themselves you can’t prove. If you prove them, then those proofs also have foundational premises. In any case, in the end you’re left with a collection of premises for which you have no proof. And if you’re not willing to accept anything for which you don’t have proof, you’re left with nothing. You can’t accept anything. So I mentioned last time that there were a few heroic attempts in the history of philosophy to try and produce a conclusion without premises. Descartes’ cogito is one. Anselm’s ontological argument for the existence of God is another, and so on. All those arguments fail. Meaning, there cannot be an argument that proves a conclusion without relying on premises. Yes, that’s Kant’s critique of ontological arguments. And therefore in the end, if I ignore those attempts, then in the end this supposed flaw in logic is indeed a flaw—you have to live with it. That is, a conclusion follows from premises, but there is no such thing as a conclusion that is true by its own force, not on the basis of premises. And once a conclusion is true only on the basis of premises, you can always ask yourself: and where do the premises get their truth from? Why should I adopt the premises? Therefore if someone insists on accepting only things for which he has proof, he actually can’t accept any claim, because every such claim will be based on an argument that itself rests on premises, and he has no proof for those premises. So the conclusions too, accordingly. We talked about how in geometry you can’t say that the theorem is more true than the axioms, even though the theorem has a proof and the axioms don’t. Yes, but it’s obvious that can’t be, because the proof is just grounding it in the axioms, reducing it to the axioms. So basically the premises contain within them all the information. All you’re doing with logical arguments is trying to extract more and more information from the premises. For example, if I prove to someone that God exists, such a proof is always based on premises. And if he accepts those premises, and if the proof is valid, that means that the conclusion that God exists was already hidden inside the premises he had already accepted. If he doesn’t accept those premises, I can’t build a proof on them—it won’t be effective. Okay? So basically he was a hidden believer in God. A proof for the existence of God cannot appeal to an atheist. It will never persuade an atheist. It may persuade someone who thinks he’s an atheist, but is really a hidden believer or an unconscious believer. What? Yes, never mind, there are various reasons why it’s hidden, but it’s hidden, without getting now into the question of why. Okay? So a logical argument can’t do work it can’t do; that is, it can’t add information for me. At most it can expose more and more information that already exists within me, make me aware of more and more information that already exists within me—that’s all a logical argument can do. It may be by way of—

[Speaker C] Negation? What do you mean—for example an argument that there is a God, but by way of negation.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Theoretically maybe, I don’t know, but what difference does it make? There’s no difference between negation and affirmation. The question is whether the argument is valid or not. I can negate the claim that there is no God—that’s like proving that there is a God. That’s semantics, it’s not— And if I say that the claim that there is no God leads to a contradiction, then I’ve proven by negation that there is a God. It doesn’t matter; these are both logical proofs. Okay, yes, so why am I repeating this? Because it means that when I speak about logical certainty or logical necessity, I am speaking only about the derivation of the conclusion from the premises. I can’t speak about logical certainty in a claim, or certainty in a claim at all. There is no claim in the world about which we can have certainty, unless it’s an empty claim. That is, that a thing and its opposite cannot both be the case—the law of non-contradiction, or the law of the excluded middle, or the law of identity. The three fundamental laws of logic: with regard to them I can have certainty because they say nothing. They contain no information; they only define the forms of our thinking. So therefore, therefore I can perhaps be convinced about them, but about no other claim can I have certainty, as someone remarked—except maybe this very claim itself. The claim that we’re in a lecture—certain? No. Maybe you’re under an illusion, maybe you’re dreaming, I don’t know. You can be very convinced it’s true; you can’t say it’s certain. Today, with the tools we have today, you don’t even need science fiction—with the tools we have today I can make you think you’re in a lecture without your being in a lecture. I connect electrodes to your brain, stimulate the places that need stimulating, and you’ll think you’re in a lecture when you’re not.

[Speaker E] Wait, logic is the least severe problem here—why? Because if you don’t trust your brain, why would you suddenly trust logic?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] That’s a different discussion. That’s already a question many skeptics ask: whether logic is necessary. I think it is, because it says nothing, therefore it’s necessary, but that’s really another discussion, so I won’t get into it. For example, one implication is whether one can believe in logical contradictions or attribute logical contradictions to the Holy One, blessed be He. If you say logic is ours, then the Holy One, blessed be He, is exempt from it—meaning He’s not subject to it. And if you say that logic is an inherent truth, unrelated to us—not something tied to our structure, it just is so—then the Holy One, blessed be He, is also subject to it. Meaning, yes, whether He can create a stone He can’t lift, or all sorts of tricks of that kind—questions that are all foolish. You can’t attribute contradiction to God. You can’t attribute contradiction to God because He too is subject to logic.

[Speaker F] So it’s not exactly subject, because it’s part of reality. Huh? But it’s not exactly subject, because it’s like all there is.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Exactly. I agree that such a thing isn’t really called subjection at all. What confuses us is that in the modern era people call the laws of logic “laws” just as they call the laws of physics laws, or the laws of the Knesset laws. But that’s not really correct. The laws of logic are not laws. The laws of physics, and certainly the laws of the Knesset, are laws that someone enacted; they could also have enacted the opposite. In another imaginary world there could be different laws of nature. In our world these laws were enacted. The laws of logic are true in every possible world. In other words, you can’t legislate the laws of logic differently. Yes, obviously. Logic works everywhere, including in quantum theory, and don’t believe all the nonsense talkers. It’s just people who don’t understand. If in quantum theory there were a contradiction—that is, a deviation from logic—then from it one could prove every argument and every claim and its opposite. That’s a theorem in logic. If within a system there is a contradiction, then from that system you can derive every claim and its opposite.

[Speaker B] Wait, so how do you actually answer the question whether God can create a rock He can’t lift?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Not that He can’t—there’s no such thing.

[Speaker B] Not that He can’t—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] He can’t do blah blah blah. What do you mean can’t? I don’t understand the words. Explain the words to me and I’ll answer you. What are the words? A stone that the omnipotent one cannot lift. That’s like asking whether He can make a round triangle. It’s not correct to say He can’t make a round triangle; there is no such thing as a round triangle. What is a round triangle? Explain to me what a round triangle is, and then I’ll think—He can, He can’t, I don’t know. You’re asking me questions with words that have no meaning at all, so what do you want me to answer?

[Speaker B] Same thing, obviously.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] You’re asking me a question—I believe in God and I think He’s omnipotent, okay? Now you say to me: your God, who is omnipotent, can He create a stone He can’t lift? But my God is omnipotent. You’re basically saying—the question is whether the omnipotent can create—sorry, whether it’s possible to create a stone that the omnipotent cannot lift.

[Speaker F] You’re assuming—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] that He isn’t all-

[Speaker F] powerful, so—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] therefore, according to your view, there’s no problem with this concept of a stone God can’t lift. But when you ask me, you need to ask me according to my view, not according to yours. And according to my view, He’s omnipotent. And if He’s omnipotent, then there is no such thing as a stone that the omnipotent cannot lift. It’s like asking: can He make a shell that penetrates every wall, and also a wall that stops every shell? No, because there is no such thing. If there is a shell that penetrates every wall, then there is no wall that stops every shell, right? Whichever way you look at it. It’s empty verbiage, that’s all. It’s not even a question whose answer is yes or no—there is no question. No, that’s the meaning of a logical argument. A logical argument is to ground a conclusion in premises—that’s what’s called a logical argument; that’s deduction. Yes yes, that’s what’s called a logical argument. A logical argument is to take premises and derive some conclusion from them. Right, so the emptiness—this is basically what’s called analytic emptiness in philosophy. That is, analytic, logical thinking is empty. It can’t add information for me. Yes, that’s the joke with the hot-air balloon. So the claim is that this vacuum is really what stands behind the three options I mentioned at the beginning. Because basically the pluralists, postmodernists, skeptics, I don’t know, call them whatever you want—it’s all the same thing. There are learned articles and books explaining the differences between them; there is no difference. It’s exactly the same thing. And all these things ultimately sit on the fact that logic is empty. Once logic is empty, then if you assume certain premises, you’ll derive one conclusion; someone else assumes different premises and derives a different conclusion. There you have narrativism in its full form—everyone with his own narrative. Okay? And why is that? Because you accept only logical inference as something that obligates you. But a claim of common sense, plain reason and so on—what is this common sense of yours? Someone else has crooked sense. So why does that obligate me? Those are speculations. Right? That’s basically the foundation of conceptions of essential pluralism. Okay, I’ll say more about pluralism, but essential pluralism means a view that advocates multiple truths. By contrast, fundamentalism says that it’s true that a logical argument is conditioned by its premises, but I have a way to attain certainty about the premises even though I have no proof for them. And that certainty I attain through some mystical, transcendent means of one kind or another, from religious sources, I don’t know exactly what, alien communications, I don’t know, call it whatever you want—it’s all exactly the same thing. And that’s the only alternative you have if you want certainty about premises. And the third way, so to speak, is basically the synthetic position, what I called it, namely to accept claims as legitimate even though they are not certain. Fine, my common sense says so, so as far as I’m concerned that’s also good. It doesn’t mean that for me it’s certain, absolutely not, because then I go back to being dogmatic, fundamentalist. But it also doesn’t mean that it’s in complete doubt or that anyone can say this or its opposite to the same degree, as the pluralist or postmodernist says. So therefore I can say: there’s common sense, and as far as I’m concerned it’s reasonable. Good, all this I talked about, so not—what?

[Speaker I] Society needs it?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Fine, then let society fall apart. What is that? That’s a practical argument. It doesn’t interest me. The question is whether it’s true, not whether society needs it. If society needs it, let it celebrate. The question is whether it’s true. Meaning, there are many things society needs, but what can you do, they’re not true. Now, in the end I also said that the only way, in my opinion, to justify my trust in foundational premises even though they are not certain—that is, I need to be honest and understand that this is not certain truth, and it is entirely possible that I’m mistaken about this, and therefore it’s worth listening to people who disagree with me, to arguments, to reconsider, to cross-check, and so on—that’s the difference between the dogmatist and the synthetic thinker. The only way to ground my trust in foundational premises, in my common sense, is to assume that we have some cognitive ability to recognize truths in what we might call a non-sensory way. Non-sensory cognition. Yes, for example in Hume’s philosophy, Hume raises two fundamental questions—a set of questions, but they can be reduced to two: who told us that the principle of causality is true? Why does everything have a cause? Who said there is such a thing at all—causal necessity? That’s one question. The second question is the principle of induction, right? Who said induction is valid? So something happened until now—why do you think it will continue to happen from now on? And when Kant formulated Hume’s questions, he basically gathered them together and defined a sort of overarching question that hides all of Hume’s questions underneath it, and he basically said: who told you that what isn’t certain is true? Now in this wording it’s not exactly like that. From Kant’s formulation it basically works like this—maybe I’ll formulate it a bit more neatly. Look, he says there are two divisions: you can divide claims along two different axes. Even orthogonal, yes, perpendicular. One axis is the axis of—say, take a certain sentence or a certain claim—we can ask whether it is a priori or a posteriori. A priori means prior to experience; a posteriori means it requires experience. In other words, how do I know this claim? Do I need observation in order to know it? Then it’s an a posteriori claim. Or is it an a priori claim—I can know it even without observation. Okay? That division is an epistemic division. Epistemology is the theory of knowledge. That is, how do I know this claim? Through experience, or do I not need experience? That’s one division on the epistemic axis. There is another division on the logical axis: whether a claim is synthetic or analytic, combining or unpacking—people use the term synthetic. Synthetic or analytic. What does that mean? Say the claim that a ball is round. So “the ball is round” follows from the definition of ball. I don’t need to observe a ball in order to see that it’s round. A ball by definition is round. Leave rugby balls and regular balls aside for a moment, okay? So from my point of view that’s—or “every bachelor is unmarried.” Right? Moshe is a bachelor, therefore obviously he’s unmarried. Because the meaning of the term bachelor is that he has no spouse. Okay? Therefore I don’t need observation in order to claim that bachelor Moshe is unmarried, has no wife. Fine? Yes, that’s the meaning of the term bachelor. So you can see this distinction as the distinction between an analytic statement, a statement where you need to analyze the concepts involved in it—analyzing the concept ball or the concept bachelor—and you’ll discover the claim. And there is a synthetic statement. For example: this ball is heavy. You can’t derive from an analysis of the concept heavy and the concept ball that this ball is heavy. You need to add—not observation, but you need to add some further information beyond what is embedded in the definitions of the concepts. Therefore it’s a synthetic statement. A tank is heavy—is that analytic or synthetic? You can discuss it. If that’s part of the definition of the concept tank, it depends how you define the concept tank. Meaning, you can define a toy tank as a tank, and then it’s not heavy. You can define some other combat vehicle that isn’t heavy as a tank. Usually tanks are defined as heavy things with armor, so it has to be heavy. It’s a matter of definition, more or less.

[Speaker G] No, a tank is a mobile fortress.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] I’m saying, if that’s the definition, then it’s a priori.

[Speaker G] A tank is a mobile fortress.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] In any case, these two divisions—there is one division on the logical axis between synthetic statements and analytic statements, and there is a division on the epistemic axis between a priori and a posteriori statements. Since the divisions are on two perpendicular axes, I would expect four categories of statements. Right? Synthetic a priori, synthetic a posteriori, analytic a priori, and analytic a posteriori. In principle. But if you look, you’ll see there are only two. Every analytic statement is a priori, and vice versa. And why? A very simple explanation. If the statement is analytic, that means it’s enough to analyze the concepts involved in it in order to arrive at the claim, the statement, in order to become convinced of the statement, so no observation is needed. Right? Analyze the concepts and you know the claim. Okay? If no observation is needed in order to see that claim, then how do you know it without observation? Apparently it’s enough to analyze the concepts involved in that statement in order to see that it’s true.

[Speaker F] That’s all the information we have.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Yes, exactly. So that’s why, basically, the analytic is a priori, and the a priori is analytic. And of course, by implication, the synthetic is also a posteriori. Okay? So apparently these are two divisions: one on the logical axis, the other on the epistemic axis, but in fact they overlap. That was the picture up to this point. But Kant defined these two axes in order to say: no, there’s a third category. There are synthetic a priori judgments. Even though they are synthetic, they are a priori. What led him to that conclusion? Think, for example, about the laws of nature. Say, the law of gravitation. The law of gravitation says that every two masses attract each other with a force inversely proportional to the square of the distance. Okay? There is an attractive force between every two—between every two masses. Fine. How do I know that? From experience? I may have seen it in a few objects that I tested. How do I know that it’s true of every object with mass? Say, stars. What does that have to do with stars? How do I know it about every object with mass?

[Speaker L] Induction. Induction, right?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Meaning, you can’t say that it’s the result of observation. Observation gives me a number of cases that I observed. But a general law is never the result of observation alone. Observation is some kind of motivation, it gives me direction, but in the end, after the observation, I still have to generalize. Okay? So in fact, a law of nature is, on the one hand, a synthetic claim. Meaning, when I say that two masses attract each other, the law of attraction is not a result of the definition of the concept of mass. There could be an imaginary world in which there are two masses and they do not attract each other. In our world there is a law of gravitation. Meaning, the laws of gravitation are not laws of logic; they are scientific laws. Okay? So they can be true in our world, and perhaps not in another world. They are not logically necessary; they are not logical relations. So the laws of nature are, on the one hand, synthetic claims, and on the other hand they are not a posteriori. They are a priori because they are not the result of observation. Meaning, observation is not enough to get you there. Okay? And therefore all the laws of—just a second—all the laws of nature actually do not fall into either of the two categories that existed before Kant. Not the synthetic a posteriori category, and not the analytic a priori category. These are judgments that are, on the one hand, a priori, and on the other hand synthetic. Or in other words: these are judgments that add information for me, but that information does not come from observation. So how? How can it be that I derive a conclusion containing more information than the premises I started with, from the scientific generalization? And it’s not the result of observation? As Mark Twain said, the world doesn’t owe you anything; it was here first. Just because you think in a certain way, does that mean it’s true? That’s just how you’re built—so what? Right? A great many challenges in the philosophy of science are based on that. Because scientific laws are some kind of generalization we make, but with all due respect to generalizations, generalizations are a product of our way of thinking. Observation only gives me the cases that I saw. When I move from those cases to a general law, I’m actually carrying out an act of generalization. And generalization is, all in all, just my invention. If someone else is built differently, he’ll make a different generalization. You can make infinitely many generalizations. Right? That’s really a major question in the philosophy of science, just as it is in epistemology, and all these questions basically map onto one another. How can it be that we can learn, accumulate information, without observation? That is really the question. How is the scientific process possible at all? The scientific process? The scientific process is essentially about accumulating information. But observation only gives you more and more particular facts. Yet the laws of nature, which are the information we have accumulated in the scientific process, are general laws, not a collection of specific observations that I happened to see. So how can one accumulate information about the world without observation? In other words, this is Kant’s problem of the synthetic a priori. The solution is—

[Speaker G] Simply to predict in advance what happens between the poles. But how—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] How can you predict in advance what will happen?

[Speaker G] No, you decide. You decide that this is a law of nature.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Deciding is nice. I can also decide that there is no law of gravitation. Deciding is excellent. There are a few decisions I’d be happy to make on that matter.

[Speaker M] No, but it—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] It won’t help at all; it doesn’t solve the problem. I can decide whatever I want, but the question is how I know, not how I decide. How can I know a general law that contains a lot of information about the world without observation? How can that be? Now, there are indeed those who claim that the laws of nature are a statement about us, not about the world. Meaning, what I know about the world is only what I observed in it. The laws of nature are just our forms of thought. It’s convenient for us to organize the data this way or that way, but it’s a statement about us, not about the world. That can’t be right—I have a mathematical proof that it’s wrong. But such a claim does exist in philosophy. Still, nobody really believes that, except for a few philosophers who need to write articles. Everybody understands that it’s not certain that the laws of nature are true, but clearly they are the best thing we currently have, and we think they are true. We have reasonable grounds to assume that they are true. And it works. Right, and it also works. Besides that. It’s both true and it works. Amazing. Usually what is true doesn’t work. That’s what I discovered in my fourth year of engineering. I went to Tadiran to work on the Lavi, of blessed memory. To make some filter or something, I don’t know exactly what. I put in orthogonal polynomials there; everything was completely correct, and fortunately they canceled that project halfway through, because otherwise there’s no chance it would have worked. And the probability that something works is one divided by the amount of mathematics inside it. That’s the well-known engineering rule. Anyway, the principle says that if I want to explain how I can accumulate information without observation—how can that be?—there are various proposals. Kant himself proposed one; I’m sparing you all the proposals that in my opinion are wrong. The only really possible proposal here, in my view, is that we have some intellectual faculty—I called it intuition—some intellectual faculty that enables us to identify general truths directly. I see a collection of facts that I observed, and from that I understand that the general law governing them is the law of gravitation. What does it mean to say, “I understand”? One could say that I make some generalization because that’s how my mind is built. But that won’t do, because then we remain with the same problem: how do you know it’s true? No—I claim that I see the law of gravitation. Not with my eyes. I see it in what Maimonides calls, at the beginning of The Guide for the Perplexed, “the eyes of the intellect.” The intellect has some ability to contemplate—not only to think and analyze the data that consciousness brings to it, but the intellect has a wing, or a part, that is a cognitive part. Meaning, it can engage in cognition of the world through the eyes of the intellect. Okay? And therefore what we usually call intuition—what people usually think is a product of learning from experience—I don’t agree. Meaning, intuition is a cognitive faculty; it is a precondition for learning from experience. In other words, if we didn’t have this faculty, we also couldn’t learn from experience, because any collection of facts can be generalized in infinitely many ways. And the faculty called intuition directs us toward the correct generalization from among the possible generalizations. Okay? Therefore you can’t say that intuition is the result of generalizations. That cannot be true. Intuition is a faculty we are born with. Those who know a bit—there’s a debate in linguistics, Chomsky—everyone thought that a person is born tabula rasa. You’re born empty, and then you learn language, learn this, talk about linguistic ability. And Chomsky argued that linguistic ability cannot be explained that way; there must be something built into the person, the ability to speak, a linguistic faculty. It’s not something acquired; it’s something innate. Once that thing exists within me, I can learn this language, that language, this grammar, that grammar, but without that basic faculty I could not learn. Right, think about it—I once brought a different example for this, Wittgenstein’s example. In his argument about rule-following—following a rule—he says: think, for example, that on the psychometric exam you are asked the following question. Suppose they give you a sequence of numbers: what is the next number? Nineteen. Why nineteen? Okay. You say nine. Fine. Any other suggestions? Eleven. Why eleven? Right, primes. The one who says—it’s not wrong, it’s also right. You can put eleven here if the pattern is prime numbers. You can put nine here because it’s the odd numbers, right. You can also put nineteen or minus pi if you want. You can put whatever you want. Why? No, it will be a series. It will be a series, no problem at all—I’ll organize a series for you however you like. Meaning, I can define for you: if a-sub-n is the sequence, okay, a plus bn plus cn squared plus dn cubed. I have four coefficients: a, b, c, and d. Now I want when n equals one that it will give me three, when n equals two it will give me five, when n equals three it will give me seven, and when n equals four it will give me minus pi. Fine? Plug it in: four equations with four unknowns, find a, b, c, and d, and you have the series, no problem. Okay. Therefore, when you go to the psychometric exam, for example, and they ask you a question like that, and someone answers minus nineteen, he won’t be accepted. Why won’t he be accepted? Because… how are you going to manage to teach him? Everything you teach him he will interpret differently from what you mean. He won’t be able to learn. The psychometric exam tests conformity. Meaning, it tests who thinks the way everyone thinks. Whoever thinks the way everyone thinks gets accepted.

[Speaker E] Meaning, that’s the—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Not mediocre people—it may be geniuses—but they think the way everyone thinks. It has nothing to do with talent. It has to do with whether you think like everyone else or think differently. You can be a conformist genius, and you can be a conformist idiot; you can be a nonconformist genius, and you can be a nonconformist idiot. Meaning, it’s not really about genius or lack of genius, but the test doesn’t examine genius; it examines conformity. Maybe, maybe it also examines ability within the conformist world. That could be, if we want to be a little generous. So what does this actually mean here? Wittgenstein is basically claiming: suppose I want to teach someone mathematics. Okay, so I teach him to count. One, two, three, four, five, nine, ten, twenty, thirty, ninety-nine, one hundred, one thousand, ten thousand, and so on. We get to one hundred thousand. Okay, I’m already drenched in sweat—I taught him to count up to one hundred thousand. From here on, continue in the usual way, and so on. Okay? Fine, next week there’s a test. Count forward twenty numbers starting from ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety. Fine, so he counts the way he learned. Ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-one, ninety-two, ninety-three, one hundred thousand, and then minus pi, e, and i. Okay? He writes Euler’s formula there for us. Meaning, what—you grab your… tear your hair out. You say: I went with you up to one hundred thousand, I’m already sweating, and it still didn’t help. But it didn’t help simply because his mind is built differently from yours. Not because he is mistaken or because he is stupid. He simply makes different generalizations from yours. That’s all. His mind generalizes differently from the way your mind generalizes. Therefore there is actually no way to teach him. You can’t teach him, because whenever we teach, we always teach bottom-up, never top-down. We always teach from examples to the general principle. Now, once you are standing before examples of the general principle, you are assuming that the student will already make the generalization. But if he makes different generalizations from yours, nothing will help. He can’t learn from you. That is why the psychometric exam filtered him out.

[Speaker F] But he said it’s mathematical. A trick of the mind might be more reasonable as a generalization.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] You can assume whatever you like, but it’s not mathematical—it’s an assumption. Yes, but you think it’s simpler, Occam’s razor. Who says it’s simpler? You can argue. In your description it might be simpler. I can expand the space of these functions in a basis of sines rather than a basis of polynomials, and then I can produce for you different criteria for simplicity. Okay. Anyway, the point is—the point is that in order to adopt a worldview in which there are truths, and this is really the important point, I’m summarizing everything we have done up to now—in order to reach a worldview in which there are truths, you have to assume in the background some kind of faculty, some kind of intellectual faculty or cognitive faculty that I call intuition, or, in a synonymous term, faith. Faith is not necessarily in God. Faith means some ability to understand that something is true not because I have a proof for it and not because I saw it, but because I understand that this is what is true. What is sometimes called common sense. Right? Faith or intuition are not certain tools—I said that explicitly. Synthetic maturity is maturity that is willing to accept claims that are not certain, but not everything that is uncertain is doubtful. An uncertain thing means: I think it is true, but okay, there is a warning label attached to it, so it’s worth checking. Fine?

[Speaker F] Can you come to someone with complaints because he doesn’t believe it’s true?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Why not? If common sense says so, then why not?

[Speaker F] In principle, I tell him this is true and he tells me it isn’t.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] If he doesn’t agree with you, no problem. But if he says, yes, it’s very plausible, but in my eyes plausible things are unacceptable—fine. If he doesn’t agree, okay, clearly he doesn’t agree, there’s nothing to be done. There’s also a philosophical dispute about this, right? A postmodern person will say: okay, common sense is also a hallucination. Meaning, I don’t accept anything on the basis of common sense, only something absolute. If the disagreement is real, you can’t blame anyone. Meaning, if it’s the result of drives, the result of other things, then you can start assigning blame. But if it’s a different conception—a different conception—what can you do? So that is really what stands in the background here: what I earlier called intuition, faith, common sense, whatever you want to call it, when the basis of the matter is some kind of combination of thought with cognition. What actually leads to Kant’s problem of the synthetic a priori is too sharp a distinction between thought and cognition. The epistemic axis deals with cognition; the logical axis deals with thought. And the claim that these axes are perpendicular basically means that neither casts any shadow on the other—they are two operations unrelated to each other. But no: there is a certain faculty, a certain human faculty, that combines thought with cognition—cognitive thinking. Fine, my intellect contemplates the world—contemplates in quotation marks, but it contemplates; it doesn’t only think about data that it received—and it reaches the conclusion that the law of gravitation is true, that there is a generalization here. This generalization, in my view, is not an act of thought; it is an act of cognition. I cognize that the law of gravitation is the correct law. Not that I have data that I accumulated by observation and then I make a generalization that is an act of thought—that is how people are usually accustomed to treating it—but that’s not correct. If that were so, it could not work. Meaning, even in the act of generalization there is something that is not merely thought, not merely internal, but some kind of interaction between our mind and the world, which is cognition that this is probably the right generalization. Not with certainty, of course—there is never certainty—but—

[Speaker P] The principle of causality.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] The principle of causality, for example, is a product of exactly that kind of contemplation. Because that’s what Hume asked: how can one know the principle of causality, how can one know causal relations at all? It doesn’t come from observation. But on the other hand, every normal person believes it is true, that things have causes and that event A is the cause of event B. How do you know that? Because I contemplate the world and I understand that there are causal relations here—I simply understand it. It’s not—so there are many who say, no, no, that’s just your form of thought; you are used to thinking in causal terms because that’s how you are built, but it’s not really a claim about the world. And whoever thinks it is a claim about the world must understand that we are not dealing here with the product of thought alone. If it’s a product of thought, there is no justification for projecting it onto the world. The fact that I think this way—the world doesn’t owe me anything, okay? Rather, what? I claim that I see that this is really how the world itself behaves. So that is a cognitive capacity, not only a thinking capacity. Right, exactly. That’s what Maimonides calls at the beginning of The Guide for the Perplexed, “the eyes of the intellect.” What does “the eyes of the intellect” mean? Notice: eyes belong to epistemology, to cognition. Intellect belongs to thought, to logic. What are “the eyes of the intellect”? It’s a mixing of categories. The intellect deals in thought; why does it need eyes? You need eyes in order to see, in order to cognize. Meaning, there is something in the intellect that deals in cognition and not only in thought. Now, there are other philosophers who said similar things. Husserl spoke about eidetic seeing. Eidetic seeing, contemplation of ideas. Right, what is contemplation of ideas? Ideas are ostensibly products of thought, so what is contemplation of ideas? They say maybe it’s a borrowed term. No, it’s not a borrowed term—that is contemplation, that is cognition. In the Platonic conception, for example, the ideas are located somewhere and I contemplate them. So what looks like thought is actually an act with cognitive dimensions. “Auditory logic” of the Nazir is the same thing. Auditory is hearing—that’s epistemology, that’s cognition—and logic is thought. So auditory logic is like the eyes of the intellect. It is the joining of a cognitive, epistemic concept with a thinking concept. The eyes of the intellect or auditory logic are the same type of combination, okay? It seems to me that all these point toward the category I spoke about here. I’ll just give you an illustration of the matter in order to sharpen the point, because it’s a very important point. Think of the following: I’m sitting over some difficult mathematical problem, some differential equation, I don’t know what. I sit over it for months trying to solve it this way and that. Finally I come to the conclusion that e to the power of sine three x is the solution. Fine, I’m happy and in good spirits after months of work. Then a good friend of mine comes over, looks, says: so what are you doing? I say: look, this differential equation has completely destroyed me, I can hardly breathe, I don’t know how long it’s been. He says: what, what’s the problem? It’s e to the power of sine three x—I see it immediately, he tells me. So I’m stunned. How did you know? He says: I just had a feeling, I felt that this was the right solution, okay? Now you have to understand that when I say “I felt” in this context, it’s not like “I felt love” or “I felt fear.” Because love and fear are not claims about the world—they are my psychological state; I feel this way, I feel that way, it’s the result of how I am built. If you feel fear and I don’t feel fear, we have no disagreement. You’re simply built differently; you’re built in such a way that you feel that. But if he feels that the solution is e to the power of sine three x, and someone else feels that the solution is eight, then this is not a matter of a different psychological state. One of them is right and the other is wrong—or at most only one of them is right, because the solution is unique. So they cannot both be right. Okay? When you say “I feel,” you’re using a problematic, imprecise expression. What do you mean when you say that? According to postmodernism it could mean lots of things, because this is an empty world. Right, what he means is: I understand directly, without the calculation that you’ve been working on for months. I see directly that this is the solution. But the product of what I’m telling you is a claim about the world. It can be checked—is it true or not true? Plug it into the equation and see whether it solves it or not. It’s not like saying, “I love so-and-so.” That can’t be checked; it’s not a claim about the world, it’s a claim about me. I feel love for so-and-so. Okay, if someone else doesn’t feel love for so-and-so, we have no disagreement. You’re built that way and I’m built differently. But if someone feels that the solution is e to the power of sine four x, then we do have a disagreement. You have to plug it into the equation and see who is right and who is wrong. So the use of the term “I feel” is very misleading in this context. And the reason people use the term “I feel” is because I did this without logical or mathematically rigorous justification. I immediately tell you the answer without doing the orderly calculation and arriving at it. Someone who is a genius can sometimes do that even without all the calculations. You have to be a genius in order to do the calculations too, never mind, but one particular kind of genius is that you have a very strong intuition that sees the correct answer immediately; it doesn’t need to do the calculations. I’ll do the calculations, and maybe I’ll get to that answer too after half an hour with much blood, sweat, and tears. So that’s why in both cases—both emotion in the emotional sense and intuition—people often speak in terms of “I feel that such-and-such is the case.” Because in both cases we are dealing with something for which I have no logical justification. I cannot present a rigorous argument supporting it.

[Speaker Q] Isn’t it possible to explain the justification? Never mind. I’m saying this from personal experience, from managing investments and so on, that when you came—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] with—

[Speaker Q] an answer, people calculated it and arrived at the same answer. It’s simply a matter of experience.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Correct, but that experience is not a subjective result. That experience yields something that is true.

[Speaker Q] So how did it happen?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] That is exactly the point. You don’t know how to do the calculation, but the result is a claim about the world. The result is not a claim about you. I don’t know how to explain why I love so-and-so, but the result is not a claim about the world. I have nothing to explain—I’m simply built that way, what is there to explain? Someone else is built differently and won’t love him. Therefore the “feeling” of the emotional kind is not about claims concerning the world; it is simply a report about a psychological state. I feel this way, I feel that way. But there is another kind of “I feel,” where I say “I feel,” but in fact I am making a claim about the world. It can be checked, and it is either true or false, and if someone else says otherwise then he is wrong—we have a disagreement. So the use of the term “I feel” in this context is confusing. Prima facie, I would have preferred not “I feel,” but rather “I think” or “I have an intuition that such-and-such is the case.” People use “I feel” because in both cases I lack logical justification. That is why they use “I feel.” Especially if you are a pluralist and you think that logical justification in any case gives you nothing—that is, logical justification gives you nothing because the premises themselves require justification—then you basically say: okay, so having an intuition and “I feel” in the emotional sense are the same thing. I can’t speak for everyone; I can only say that most of them are talking nonsense. I don’t know whether all of them are; maybe there are some who aren’t.

[Speaker D] I also—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Someone could also come and say that his intuition is that this phone is a soccer ball. Fine, okay. The fact that someone throws out the phrase “I have an intuition that such-and-such” is not a magic word. Even when I myself have an intuition, I check myself again to see whether I myself at least find it sufficiently persuasive. And even after I find it sufficiently persuasive and not just a bias, I still attach a warning label to it. It could be that I have an intuition and I’m mistaken. I am not claiming that intuition is an instrument for reaching certainty; I’m claiming the opposite. Even though it doesn’t bring me certainty, it is still admissible. I don’t throw it out just because it isn’t certain. That’s the point. We don’t have any better instrument than that. What can you do? That’s what we have. In short, what I’m basically claiming is that when we want to examine what is true and what is not true—and now I’m coming to the question of truth—when we want to check whether something is true or not, then of course I have to check it against reality. If I say that there are twenty chairs in this room, and I want to say that this claim is true, how do I know? How do I verify whether it’s true or not? I simply count. Right? I need to compare the claim to the state of affairs in the world that it describes, and see whether there is correspondence. If there is, the claim is true; if there isn’t, the claim is false. Okay? Meaning, truth is the product of a comparison. A comparison to the state of affairs. A claim—by the way, there is no such thing as a state in the world that is true. The state in the world is just the state in the world. True or not true refers to claims. Claims can be true or not true. When are they true? When they describe something real in the world, something that exists in the world. Then the claim is true. To say that something is true is always to make a statement about a claim, not a statement about a fact. A fact is a fact; it is not a true fact. There is no false fact; a false fact is not a fact. This factual claim can be true, and another factual claim can be false. Truth or falsity is a property of claims, not of facts. So when we talk about truth, we need to understand that truth is not exhausted merely by logical derivation of the conclusion from premises, as people often think—or truth as coherence, as philosophers call it. I can check whether what someone says is true by seeing whether it is consistent with his premises, or with my premises, or whatever. But that really reduces the concept of truth to the concept of consistency, logical consistency. But no: I claim that the concept of truth is a product of correspondence to the state of affairs in the world. A claim is true if it corresponds to the state that it describes. And this has nothing to do with the question of logical derivation or non-derivation. Logical derivation deals with validity, not truth. Validity and invalidity are properties of arguments; truth and falsity are properties of claims. When I examine whether a claim is true or false, I need to examine it against the world. To examine whether an argument is valid or invalid, I need to examine its structure and see whether its conclusion follows from the premises. I don’t need to look at the world in any way. There can be a valid argument—blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, by whose word all things came to be—there can be a valid argument all of whose premises are false. All frogs have wings; this table is a frog; therefore this table has wings. That is a valid argument. Two false premises, and also a false conclusion. There is complete independence between the validity and invalidity of arguments and the truth and falsity of claims. The only dependence between them is that if an argument is valid, then it cannot be that its premises are true and the conclusion false. That is the only connection between the question of an argument’s validity and the question of the truth and falsity of claims. Okay? When we talk about truth, we are not talking about consistency and not talking about validity; we are talking about truth. Therefore, when you tell me, “These and those are the words of the living God,” I immediately jump to conclusions—which we will get to later—“These and those are the words of the living God.” So what are you telling me? That each one is consistent with his premises. Thank you very much. “Each one is consistent with his premises” is a trivial statement. That is not what it says there. What it says is that each has truth. I will qualify that later. So we need to understand how it can be that a thing and its opposite are both true. The concept of truth is not a concept of consistency; the concept of truth is an absolute concept. But consistency is—

[Speaker F] Relative.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Right, a necessary condition but not a sufficient one. Something that is inconsistent is certainly not true.

[Speaker F] If we assume that the world—

[Speaker K] is absolute with the Master of the Universe, therefore if there is a dispute, the absolute is with the Master of the Universe but not with flesh and blood.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, but I’m saying that truth, in principle, is an absolute concept. When I say that there is truth on both sides, there is absolute truth on both sides. That is my claim.

[Speaker K] No, absolute like Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel, yes.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] There is absolute truth on both sides. And that does not contradict the principles of logic—we’ll talk about it, I’ll explain it more later. But the concept of truth is an absolute concept—that is exactly the point. I want to avoid all the escape routes that usually accompany these discussions, like “everyone is consistent with his own premises,” which is precisely an escape into narrativity, into standard postmodernism. No, no—I am speaking within a monistic world, a world in which there is one absolute truth, and within that I need to understand what “these and those are the words of the living God” means and how we relate to dispute, and that is our topic: dispute and truth. Okay? Therefore, when I talk about truth, I’m not talking about truth as consistency; I’m talking about truth as correspondence. That is one thing. Second, when I talk about pluralism, about a multiplicity of truths, then of course one can talk about it in the descriptive sense. There are many positions in the world. Right? Different groups or different individuals hold different positions. That is a fact that one cannot argue with, right? It is clearly true. About that fact there is no multiplicity of truths. That fact is certainly true—certainly, almost certainly. Okay? But that is not substantive pluralism; that is descriptive pluralism. I am describing that there are many positions in the world. Substantive pluralism is a claim that—it does not speak about different groups, but says that all the groups are right together, or that none of them are right, or that there is no such thing as being right—you can formulate it in different ways. Substantive pluralism means that there really are many truths, not that there are many groups who think different things. When I say there are many groups that think different things, I can still be an out-and-out monist in the substantive sense, and in the substantive sense I can believe that there is only one truth. Right, there are many different groups who think differently—and they are mistaken. So what? So to say that there are many groups that think different things is descriptive pluralism. Substantive pluralism means that there is a multiplicity of truths, or that there are several truths and they are all truth, all of them correct. That is substantive pluralism. Therefore I am not talking about pluralism as a fact or social pluralism, but about philosophical or substantive pluralism, okay? Okay, so that is just the initial introduction to the concepts of truth, and now I’ve also opened up the question of pluralism a bit, because what I want to address later is this issue of how to relate to different positions in Jewish law—but not only in Jewish law; in general. There is a dispute. Does that necessarily mean one is right and the others are wrong? Maybe not? Of course, the fact that there are different opinions—as I said—is a fact, a correct description; about that I have nothing to say. But the question is what we do with that. How to understand “these and those are the words of the living God,” and so on. Therefore this conceptual framework opens a door to begin discussing the question of dispute, and that is why the topic of this series is dispute and truth. So on the one hand I define the concept of truth as something absolute and not merely consistency, okay? On the other hand, we will have to see what that means for disputes. Apparently what this says is that disputes can exist—because factual pluralism is a fact, there are people with different opinions or groups with different opinions—but it means that one of them is right and the others are wrong, because there is only one truth.

[Speaker N] If I believe that a whipped-cream cake is also, I don’t know, say sweet, and it also causes health damage, then that’s still true.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] One person says—

[Speaker N] that it’s sweet and the other says that it’s harmful to health. Right.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] And the third person says this lectern is made of wood. So what does that have to do with anything? I don’t get it, right? That’s also true. Obviously they’re both right, but there’s no contradiction between the two things they’re saying, so why do I care that they’re both right? This lectern is also made of wood, so what? When you’re talking about contradictory positions and you say they’re both right, then you need to understand why, how that can be. Yes, with contradictory positions, then ostensibly if you’re a monist, if you think truth is something absolute, it’s not a matter of coherence, then the moment there’s a dispute, factually there is a dispute, but on the other hand it’s pretty clear that one is right and the others are wrong. So about that we’ll see that maybe even that isn’t entirely precise. If someone says it isn’t tasty, then here one is right and the other is wrong. If one says it’s tasty and the other says it isn’t healthy, okay, so what? And the third says it’s brown. Why? Ah, no, then you’re not claiming “it’s tasty,” you’re saying “it tastes good to me.” So we’re back to the subjective issue, and that’s obvious; there’s no dispute here.

Okay. Yes, it’s like—there’s a very nice book by, do you know C. S. Lewis? Narnia? That children’s writer? So he has philosophy books too; he’s the clearest philosopher I know, really a brilliant person. He was a believing Christian, and he has books defending Christian faith and conservative philosophy; not for nothing do the Shalem Press people like him. Among other things he has a little book called The Abolition of Man. That little book begins with some description from Coleridge, some British poet I think, about two people standing in front of a waterfall and exchanging views over whether the thing is sublime or not sublime or something like that, and he brings two literature textbooks from schools and just tears into them. So he doesn’t mention their names so as not to hurt them, but he says, I saw these books and because of that I decided to write this little book. They say that basically in these textbooks it says that the argument between the two people standing by the waterfall—one said it’s sublime and the other said it’s banal—there’s really no argument at all, because each one is only describing the experiences or feelings inside him. I feel feelings of sublimity and he doesn’t feel them. Okay.

But C. S. Lewis says that’s a huge mistake. Clearly, when someone says this waterfall is sublime, he doesn’t just mean to convey feelings that are being stirred in him. He means to say something about the waterfall. This waterfall is something that justifies the awakening of feelings of sublimity. And if those feelings of sublimity aren’t awakened in someone, then something is wrong with him. That’s the claim. And that’s how it is, and clearly that’s how it is. Otherwise there’d be no point in communicating this from one person to another. I have feelings—but why do I need to convey my feelings to you? I want to see that you also have the same feelings, because I think you’re supposed to have them too. When people argue, when people argue about a work of art, they always say, “Well, there’s no arguing about taste.” Not true—there is. When you argue about a work of art, you’re basically assuming that there is a way to judge a work of art, a correct way and an incorrect way to judge a work of art. And the fact that there are arguments—true, factually there are arguments—but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true that one is right and the other is wrong. The fact that there are arguments doesn’t mean anything. It’s just worth reading what he says there; his formulation there is very beautiful.

Okay, right. The claim I actually want to move toward is that although I’m a monist in the sense of truth—truth is truth as correspondence, absolute truth and not truth as emergence or coherence—still, the world of dispute is not such a simple world as it appears. And that still doesn’t mean that in the context of a dispute it’s obvious that one is right and the other is wrong. But up to this point I’ve given the introduction on the topic of truth. Now I’ll talk about an introduction to the topic of dispute. Okay, that’s the second player on our field. Okay, let’s talk a bit about dispute, and I’ll do it in a historical perspective. That is, again in the halakhic context. I want to talk a bit about the development of disputes in the world of Jewish law.

So, historically, I want to talk about a collection of topics in the Talmud—aggadic topics, by the way, which is not usually what I deal with—where there’s a very strong sense that they have something in common. First of all, the intensity, the literary power, the tension accompanying these aggadot is very similar. Even though they’re in different places—one is in Bava Metzia, another in Sanhedrin and Berakhot and in different places—I’m talking about the Oven of Akhnai on the one hand, the deposition of Rabban Gamliel from his office in other places, his disputes with Rabbi Yehoshua, things like that, all the passages of that sort. A collection of passages scattered throughout the Talmud, but it seems to me there’s some line there, at least on first impression it’s pretty clear that they have something in common. And I think this can be deciphered through a historical look. These stories involve sages from the same generation, and it’s pretty clear that this is really centered around a very specific historical moment: the deposition of Rabban Gamliel from his office. And all the stories are really around that issue, even if they don’t mention it. They’re all around that issue, and in a certain sense this is a description of the formation of dispute in the world of Jewish law. And that’s why it was so powerful and even tragic, I would say, because it was something new, something that hadn’t really existed until that time, and it created a crisis. It created a crisis, and I think through this it’s very interesting to examine the topic of dispute a bit.

I’ll start maybe with the first chapter of Tractate Avot. In the first chapter of Tractate Avot it says: “Moses received the Torah from Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua, and Joshua to the elders, and the elders to the prophets, and the prophets transmitted it to the Men of the Great Assembly.” Stop there maybe. Yes, so as I said earlier, they said three things—who are the Men of the Great Assembly? “Be deliberate in judgment, raise up many disciples, and make a fence around the Torah.” And what did all the people before them say? The generation at the beginning of the Second Temple period. What happened from Moses our teacher until them? Nobody said anything? They said three things. I don’t know, it doesn’t say. Mishnah 2: Shimon the Righteous was one of the last surviving members of the Great Assembly. He would say: On three things the world stands—on Torah, on the service, and on acts of kindness. Suddenly Shimon the Righteous is already a named authority, meaning a person with a defined name, a specific person who says three things. The first person in the history of the Oral Torah whose words of Torah are registered in his name in the land registry. There’s nobody before him. This is the end of the Great Assembly, meaning we’re already well into the Second Temple period, into the era of the Second Temple. Okay?

After that Antigonus of Sokho received from Shimon the Righteous. He would say: Do not be like servants—and then suddenly everybody starts talking. Yes, “the Lord opened the mouth of the donkey.” Suddenly everyone starts to speak. Meaning up until the Men of the Great Assembly, who said some statement—three collective statements without names yet—nobody said anything. The Men of the Great Assembly say those three collective statements. The remnant of the Great Assembly, Shimon the Righteous, already begins to say statements in his own name. And from there on, each one already has words of Torah that he says and that are attributed to him. There’s already personal Torah, yes, Torah attributed to specific people, people with names.

Then Yose ben Yo’ezer of Tzeredah and Yose ben Yohanan of Jerusalem received from them, which is really the first pair, the two Yoses. And they too said things: Yose ben Yo’ezer says, Yose ben Yohanan of Jerusalem would say—each of them already has his own sayings—and then the five pairs up to Shammai and Hillel, which was the last pair. I remind you that the two Yoses—it’s in the Jerusalem Talmud in Hagigah, and Rashi says it too on the Talmud in Hagigah in our Babylonian Talmud—that the dispute about laying on of hands on a Jewish holiday, the dispute between the two Yoses, is the first dispute in the history of the Oral Torah. That’s where the dispute of the Oral Torah began, the dispute of the Oral Torah. Now I assume there were arguments earlier too. There were arguments. But a dispute that remained, where each opinion got attached to a different person—a dispute like that, which remained for a long time, maybe forever if you like—that began with the two Yoses. And Rashi even writes that this was because of the Greek conflict and so on; that was already at the beginning of the confrontation with the Greeks.

After that, yes, as I said, all the pairs: Nittai the Arbelite, Judah ben Tabbai and Shimon ben Shetah, Shemaya and Avtalyon, Hillel and Shammai. All right? And then Hillel and Shammai of course said many things; we already know their sayings. Then Rabban Gamliel says: “Make for yourself a rabbi.” Rabban Gamliel is already among the disciples of Hillel and Shammai, then Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai, and after Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai comes Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Eliezer the Great, and so on. So Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai—Rabban Gamliel basically says, “Make for yourself a rabbi, remove yourself from doubt, and do not tithe by estimation too much.” Yes, they all say three things for some reason; I don’t know why, they were fond of it, like Bezalel. Shimon his son, the son of Rabban Gamliel, then Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says, etc. There’s a whole chain there, and with that chapter 1 ends.

I move to chapter 2. Rabbi says—we’ve already jumped down the line of descent from Rabban Gamliel and so on—Rabbi, their descendant: “What is the straight path a person should choose for himself?” Rabban Gamliel, the son of Rabbi Yehudah HaNasi—yes, that’s a later Rabban Gamliel—also used to say all kinds of things, all kinds of statements he would say, he would say. Mishnah 8 in chapter 2: “Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai received from Hillel and Shammai.” Now you remember him? I don’t understand. Until now everything was chronological. You finished with Hillel and Shammai near the end of chapter 1, moved on to all kinds of sages who said all kinds of things, already generations later, still in order of the generations, and then you go back: “Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai received from Hillel and Shammai. He would say: If you have learned much Torah, do not take credit for yourself, for that is what you were created for.” He also said things, Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai. “He had five disciples, and these are they: Rabbi Eliezer ben Horkanus, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Hananiah, and Rabbi Yose the Priest,” and so on. He would enumerate their praise, and then each of them says various things, and now each one says. That’s it, it spreads out. Notice: regarding these five disciples it doesn’t say he received Torah from him and transmitted it to so-and-so. That description of received and transmitted does not appear here. From Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai onward there is no more “received and transmitted.” It doesn’t appear. He had five disciples. But he didn’t receive and transmit. What is the meaning of this? Why this strange description? Why is Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai pushed off to the second chapter of Avot instead of being brought in order? Something happened with Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai. Something that broke this whole business. The destruction—but the destruction is of course the physical event. What does it mean in terms of the formation of dispute, in terms of the development of the Oral Torah?

Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai, after all, asked for Yavneh and its sages, right? He left besieged Jerusalem, asked for Yavneh and its sages, and basically established the Sanhedrin in Yavneh. The first exile of the Sanhedrin; afterward it moved to various stations, but he basically established Yavneh. All the tannaim, the first generation of tannaim, is the generation after Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai. What we call tannaim—we don’t call the pairs tannaim. What are really called tannaim are the disciples of Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai. The five who appear here and others—from there the period of the tannaim begins, and they are all sages in Yavneh. The sages of Yavneh, those are the tannaim. What happened in Yavneh at the beginning? The first generation of sages of Yavneh was Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Eliezer, who was Rabban Gamliel’s brother-in-law, and Rabbi Yehoshua, who was Rabban Gamliel’s disputant—and Rabbi Yehoshua and Rabbi Eliezer are colleagues of the same generation too. And after them there was the whole gang, yes? There was Rabbi Elazar ben Azaryah and Rabbi Akiva and also the younger ones. Rabbi Shimon bar Yohai is already after Rabbi Akiva. Those were already younger, the second and third generations in Yavneh. But the first generation in Yavneh was the disciples of Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai, first and foremost the two brothers-in-law, Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Eliezer, and Rabbi Yehoshua, who was basically their disputant. Okay?

And this context basically tells us where we can place all the stories I started with, because they all deal with Rabban Gamliel, Rabbi Yehoshua, and Rabbi Eliezer. All those stories deal with them, and Rabbi Akiva gets brought in there too, their disciple. Okay? What happened in that period? Why does it break the Mishnah’s description of “received and transmitted”? Until that stage, until that break, “He received the Torah from Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua,” etc. Received, transmitted to this one; received, transmitted to that one. From Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai onward, the whole thing breaks: “He had five disciples.” Nobody received, nobody transmitted, nothing. There are still disciples, there is still a rabbi and disciples, but there’s no “received and transmitted.” Something there.

[Speaker F] He himself did receive.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Yes, from there it breaks. Okay? The question is what exactly happened there. More than that, it happens a generation after Hillel and Shammai. Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai still learned from Hillel and Shammai. A generation after Hillel and Shammai—and after all we know that the first great dispute that is preserved, that could not be decided for years as the Talmud says, is the House of Hillel and the House of Shammai. So something in that generation awakens the issue of dispute. The issue of dispute begins to take shape in that generation. From there on, sayings begin that belong to specific people. Torah becomes personal Torah. Until that stage there are no disputes. “He received the Torah from Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua, and Joshua to the elders.” Received and transmitted—a kind of chain of messengers, where the transmitters and receivers are hollow pipes. The Torah comes from Sinai—not really, but that’s the ethos. Okay? Hollow pipes. They just pass it on. There are no disputes; if there are disputes, they solve them and decide what to pass on, and there is one Torah.

[Speaker F] I don’t think there were no disputes, because there was only one person each time.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, I didn’t say there was only one person each time. Why?

[Speaker F] No, that when Moses receives the Torah from Sinai, then when he passes it to Joshua he can’t pass it—not pass it directly but…

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] He can do anything, but that’s not what happened. What do you mean, not what happened? The description in the Mishnah comes to teach us something about the mode of transmission up to Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai, or up to Hillel and Shammai, and from there onward. Everything happened both before and after as well—I’ll talk about that too—but there’s something here; it comes to tell us something about the formation of dispute. After all, Maimonides himself cites the Talmud that says disputes were created because the disciples of Hillel and Shammai did not serve their masters sufficiently. The formation of dispute is this generation. This whole story is not accidental. There’s something here telling us: in this generation, something happened, okay?

And I think what happened in this generation is that up to Hillel and Shammai—and maybe Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai preserved this a bit, tried to receive from both of them—the Torah basically passed as reception and transmission, a hollow pipe, and people lived with the consciousness that they were passing the torch on. It’s not their Torah; it’s the Torah of the Holy One, blessed be He, and we pass it from one to another. At a certain stage disputes begin. And why? Because each one has his own Torah, his own view, his own whatever, and he says this and that one says that. Disputes begin. There is an opinion attributed to so-and-so, an opinion attributed to someone else. From here on, Torah no longer passes through hollow pipes. The Oral Torah begins to be created, not merely transmitted. People create Torah; they don’t only pass Torah from the previous generation to the next, but begin to produce the Torah. That is the concept of the Oral Torah.

Okay, we spoke about Shimon the Righteous, that he was the first person whose words of Torah were in his own name. Right? Shimon the Righteous—there’s a very interesting story in the Talmud, that when Alexander the Great arrived in Israel—which never happened—the sages of Jerusalem went out to greet him, headed by Shimon the Righteous. And then when he saw Shimon the Righteous he got off his horse and bowed before him, and when his companions asked him why he got down before him—

[Speaker S] So what did he say?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] He came to the Land of Israel and the sages of Jerusalem came out to greet him, like this—

[Speaker S] Shimon the Righteous was the one he saw in a dream before every victory.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] So he said, yes, “The image of this man went before me and was victorious in all my wars.” And actually, he was the one who led me all along the way; suddenly I see him here live, right in front of my eyes, so that’s why I got off my horse. Now I’ve already heard a number of people who take this in an essential direction. More than that—the event of course did not happen. Many aggadot didn’t, but here it’s clear it didn’t. Why? First, because Shimon the Righteous did not live in the time of Alexander the Great—

[Speaker N] He did not—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] —he was not from the same period, and Alexander the Great did not arrive in the Land of Israel. Now if there’s a true story, there’s not much point asking lots of questions on it: that’s what happened, and that’s that. But when a non-true story is constructed, then it is definitely worth checking why they constructed it this way and why this happened rather than that. Everything has meaning, because the story was constructed in order to convey some kind of meaning. So precisely a non-true story is a story that comes to teach me more than a true story. A true story—well, that’s what happened, so that’s how it’s told. What was there exactly?

The claim is that Shimon the Righteous was basically the beginning of the era of the Oral Torah. He was the first man who had words of Torah attributed to him. And Alexander the Great’s claim is basically—Alexander the Great, as is known, was an enlightened conqueror, and his purpose was to spread Greek culture, philosophy, art, and so on throughout the world. Okay? And he said that the one who really led his move was Shimon the Righteous. And the claim is that the Oral Torah basically paved the way—so to speak paved the way—for the spread of Greek culture. Or in other words, the spread of Greek culture was an instrument enabling the Oral Torah to take shape. It was really the torch for whose sake this whole process happened. In the perspective of the Sages, an aggadic perspective of course—it doesn’t matter at the moment, I’m not getting into that question now.

[Speaker P] Was Shimon the Righteous influenced by Hellenism?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, no, this is not a historical claim. Not a principled historical claim; call it a historiosophical claim, not a historical one. It’s a claim that says that in order for the Oral Torah to take shape, we needed philosophy and logic. We didn’t have that before, and therefore before that the Torah was some kind of dogmatic thing passed from one to another, fine, but we really didn’t have a way to produce Torah, analyze things, think about things systematically. Those tools we had to receive from this encounter with Greece. And it was, of course, a very traumatic encounter. A very traumatic encounter because critical, logical, philosophical thinking meeting a conservative group or position—that’s a recipe for an explosion. Someone comes and asks you: who told you? Prove it. Maybe it isn’t true. And you’ll always say what? A law given to Moses at Sinai, that’s what the Holy One, blessed be He, said, a scriptural decree. Suddenly someone asks, wait, wait—what decree? Who says? Maybe it isn’t true? These are heretical questions, right? Meaning there’s a very great tension in the encounter between a conservative group and a critical group. Okay? Right?

That’s why many times the Talmud says that—actually not the Talmud, it’s Megillat Ta’anit—it says there that darkness descended on the world on the eighth of Tevet, darkness descended on the world for three days when the Torah was translated into Greek. That’s on the one hand. There was a very great tension in the encounter with Greekness, yes? In all cultures we don’t find people becoming Egyptianized or Babylonianized; we find people becoming Hellenized. In other words, the cultural interaction was not so dramatic as it was in the Greek context. At least that’s how it was perceived—again, these statements are not historical. And on the other hand it says: “May the beauty of Japheth dwell in the tents of Shem.” The Sages saw this encounter with Japheth, with Greece, in some sense as very positive too, unlike all the other cultures. Therefore, for example, Rabban Gamliel writes in Megillah that it is permitted to translate the Torah into Greek, and only Greek, not any other language. Okay? With all the reservations about Greekness, on the other hand there is some appreciative statement, a statement that understands there is something here.

The father of the Oral Torah, basically, is the first sage who has Torah that is not from the Holy One, blessed be He; it is his Torah. Okay, Torah that comes from him. He was basically the one who paved the way for Greek philosophy and logic. In other words, this is basically saying, in other words, that the systematic mode of thinking formed in Greece is what created the Oral Torah among us, and it is what enabled the Torah to become a human Torah, a developing Torah, a Torah of disputes, a Torah of arguments and proofs and practical ramifications and everything we know today and that seems totally obvious to us, but once did not exist. This encounter with Greece was necessary for this thing to come into being.

Now that’s Shimon the Righteous. From then on there are all the pairs and Hillel and Shammai and then Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai, first generation of Yavneh. A few hundred years pass—but a few hundred years pass—and this process crystallizes over those several hundred years and explodes in the first generation of Yavneh. In the first generation of Yavneh we reap the fruits of the formation of the Oral Torah, which by definition has dispute embedded within it. Because a human Torah always has dispute: you think this way, I think differently. The Torah of the Holy One, blessed be He, is very clear—what did He say; my opinion is irrelevant. The moment I speak about what I think, different opinions, disputes arise. Therefore this process, which began at the beginning of the Second Temple period or a bit after the beginning of the Second Temple period, with the formation of the Oral Torah and human thought, ultimately exploded at the end of the Second Temple period or after the destruction already in Yavneh with the creation and crystallization of dispute. And that’s what I want to continue with next time. Thank you.

[Speaker J] Thank you very much. I just have one short question. Okay. Regarding the power of intuition you spoke about—you also called it faith / belief.

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