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Conceptual Analysis – Lesson 2

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Table of Contents

  • A conceptual analysis of authority and the distinction between norms and facts
  • The presumption that a person does not repay before the due date, and reversal of the burden of proof
  • Psychological presumptions and their implications: “Better to sit as two than to sit as a widow”
  • Changing reality, local custom, and “do not form separate factions”
  • The role of the halakhic decisor and determining facts
  • A conceptual analysis of “change”: literal conservatism and interpretive conservatism
  • A conceptual analysis of “leniency” and “stringency” through the Beit HaLevi story
  • When there is doubt about blessings, we rule leniently; “do not take [God’s name in vain]”; and the blessing of thanksgiving

Summary

General Overview

The text presents the usefulness of conceptual analysis in the philosophy of Jewish law through concepts like authority, facts, and norms, and argues that formal authority belongs only to norms and not to facts. Jewish law is defined as a purely normative layer dealing with the forbidden, the permitted, and obligation, whereas factual reality is a changing substrate that must be clarified using the tools appropriate to the time and place, not by relying on Talmudic determinations. From this it is argued that factual determinations and psychological presumptions in the Talmud are not binding Torah statements, and therefore a change in reality may change halakhic application without being considered a “change” in Jewish law itself. The text goes on to propose a conceptual analysis of the terms “change” and “leniency/stringency,” emphasizing that much of the controversy around “reform” stems from failure to define the concepts themselves.

A conceptual analysis of authority and the distinction between norms and facts

The conceptual analysis leads to a distinction between substantive authority and formal authority, where formal authority does not exist with respect to facts but only with respect to norms. Jewish law, like ethics / morality, belongs to the normative plane and deals with the forbidden, the permitted, and obligation, and sometimes with impure and pure, or kosher and non-kosher, but all of these are expressions of norms. Halakhic rulings are attached to factual situations that require analysis, but Jewish law itself does not determine the facts and does not purport to teach them. Our obligation toward the Talmud / Talmudic text relates to the normative rules it introduces, not to the realistic or psychological assessments embedded in the passages.

The presumption that a person does not repay before the due date, and reversal of the burden of proof

Bava Batra 5a is brought as an example of how the Talmud / Talmudic text uses a temporary reality in order to convey a normative message: the presumption that a person does not repay before the due date leads to the conclusion that someone who claims “I repaid” before the due date is not believed, and the burden of proof may shift from the claimant to the current holder. The passage also includes a discussion of “migo against a presumption” in a case where repayment before the due date is claimed while the lawsuit is brought after the due date, and the Talmud / Talmudic text does not decide the matter there. It is argued that when reality changes and people do in fact repay before the due date, it makes no sense to rule according to the reality assessment of Babylonia some 1,700 years ago, and this is not “disagreeing with the Talmud / Talmudic text,” because the Talmud / Talmudic text described its own reality, not an eternal reality. The Torah message of the passage is presented as a fixed halakhic rule: when there is a presumption against the current holder, the burden of proof can be reversed, and the application depends on the presumptions that fit present reality.

Psychological presumptions and their implications: “Better to sit as two than to sit as a widow”

The presumption “Better to sit as two than to sit as a widow” is presented as a Talmudic assessment of reality according to which a woman prefers partnership “almost at any price,” and from this contemporary halakhic implications are derived in the areas of marriage, divorce documents, and women chained to marriages. A case is brought in which it becomes clear after marriage that the husband had been violent from the very beginning, and the claim is that from a contractual-halakhic perspective this may be a mistaken transaction and a lack of consent that voids the betrothal, but the Talmudic presumption is sometimes used to block this claim and leave the woman dependent on receiving a divorce document. It is argued that modern reality shows that women do not consent “at any price,” and that the insistence on ancient psychological presumptions in “sensitive” issues is selective and sometimes stems from anti-reform hysteria. Criticism is brought against statements such as “the presumption of ‘Better to sit as two’—like all presumptions—was given at Sinai,” attributed to Rabbi Soloveitchik, alongside the argument that in other contexts halakhic decisors do in fact change their reality assessments without a similar struggle.

Changing reality, local custom, and “do not form separate factions”

It is argued that changes in reality affect halakhic rulings “at every turn,” and an example is given from the prohibition of “do not form separate factions,” as ruled by Maimonides with respect to “two courts in one city,” as opposed to a reality in which every city has many synagogues. The proposed explanation is that the concept of “city” has changed and become virtual in the sense of community or ethnic group, and therefore local custom has been replaced by the custom of one’s community and parents. From this it is learned that halakhic decision-making first requires an updated assessment of reality, and that there is no point in ruling according to an ancient static reality when the world is dynamic, mobile, and based on affiliations that are not only geographical.

The role of the halakhic decisor and determining facts

The halakhic decisor or judge is described as someone who must assess reality as part of the ruling process, because the norm applies only to a description of a factual situation. The comparison to the legal world emphasizes that there too judges hear experts but are required to decide what the relevant facts are for the sake of legal judgment. It is argued that there is no binding authority to a decisor’s factual determinations in the sense that a person is obligated to accept his assessment of reality, even if he is obligated to accept his ruling as normative authority within a given system.

A conceptual analysis of “change”: literal conservatism and interpretive conservatism

A basic difficulty is presented in defining “change” through a parable about people walking in the desert in bathing suits and arriving at a cold region, where there are three positions: preserving the bathing suit at all costs, replacing it with a coat for comfort, and a third position claiming that the true tradition is “clothing suited to the weather,” so that the coat is actually a continuation of the tradition. The third position is presented as no less conservative than the first, because the dispute is over the interpretation of the tradition, not over loyalty to it. The distinction is formulated as literal conservatism, which preserves the literal act, and interpretive conservatism, which preserves the principle after interpretation. The text argues that the absence of conceptual analysis leads to immediate labeling such as “reform” without defining what counts as change and what counts as preservation. It is argued that even if the Geonim, the medieval authorities (Rishonim), and the later authorities (Acharonim) did not interpret in a certain way, that does not eliminate the possibility of a new interpretation, since decisive authority in the strict sense is attributed only to the Talmud / Talmudic text, while still requiring caution and deep conviction when one disagrees with the great authorities of past generations.

A conceptual analysis of “leniency” and “stringency” through the Beit HaLevi story

A story is brought from “Haggadah from Beit Levi” about the Beit HaLevi in the city of Minsk, where an enlightened Jew asks for leniencies in order to bring the distant closer, and the Beit HaLevi presents “seven examples of leniencies,” such as evening prayer until dawn, putting on Rabbeinu Tam phylacteries for everyone, reciting liturgical poems, studying on the eve of the Ninth of Av when it falls on the Sabbath, fasting on Rosh Hashanah, permitting a person to fast for two days on Yom Kippur, and counting the Omer with a blessing even after forgetting. The text states that the humor of the story depends on the fact that the examples are perceived as practical stringencies, and from this comes the need to define what a leniency is. A definition is proposed according to which a leniency is an expansion of the number of legitimate halakhic options in a given situation, and a stringency is their reduction, even if the added option is a difficult action such as fasting for two days.

When there is doubt about blessings, we rule leniently; “do not take [God’s name in vain]”; and the blessing of thanksgiving

The rule that in cases of doubt about blessings we rule leniently is explained as a ruling in which, from the standpoint of the laws of blessings, two possibilities are opened—either to recite the blessing or not to recite it—but the prohibition of “do not take the name of the Lord your God in vain” causes the practical result that when there is no clear obligation one should refrain from the blessing. In this way it is argued that refraining is not itself a “leniency,” but the result of a stringency from another normative system. A dispute is also brought in Tosafot and Tosafot HaRosh regarding the blessing of thanksgiving in Berakhot 54 around the requirement of ten people and the need for two Torah scholars, and the text explains that both sides can call their position a “stringency,” because one focuses on stringency in the laws of blessings and the other on stringency in the laws of “do not take [God’s name in vain].” The whole move is presented as a demonstration that conceptual analysis of basic terms like leniency and stringency clarifies apparent contradictions and prevents common confusion in halakhic discourse.

Full Transcript

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Last time we began the series on concepts, and I introduced the topic through the example of authority—the question of authority—and basically what I did was a conceptual analysis of the concept of authority. What is authority? And I tried to show that once you do the conceptual analysis properly, a great many of the questions we ask either get answered without any need to do anything more beyond the conceptual clarification, or at least become sharper, and the conceptual analysis allows us to understand better the meaning of what the sources are saying, what their implications are, what the scope of the matter is, and so on. At the root of the matter, what I wanted to say—what I did say, really—is that from the conceptual analysis it emerges that there is substantive authority and formal authority. Formal authority does not exist with respect to facts, only with respect to norms. Substantive authority can exist with respect to both. And that’s basically it. From here all kinds of conclusions follow, which we discussed, but first and foremost, for example, the conclusion that it’s impossible to speak of authority in the context of factual claims. And then we don’t need to open sources or anything like that. The question whether there is authority regarding facts receives a direct answer from the conceptual analysis. Here I just want to finish the discussion of the example I gave last time. It’s only an example for our purposes, but still, so that it won’t remain hanging open, I want just to finish the example and then we’ll move on. I spoke about the relation between facts and norms. I said that Jewish law is norms, ethics / morality is norms, and by contrast there are facts. And I want to sharpen once again things I’ve basically already said; a large part of the examples I’ll bring are really things I’ve spoken about before. I want to explain more why I claim that in Jewish law there is no factual dimension at all. Meaning, Jewish law is floating norms—the norms somehow floating on top of the facts—but Jewish law is only the normative layer, only the second floor of this structure. The first floor, the facts—that is not relevant. Basically, the definition of Jewish law is that it deals with the forbidden, the permitted, and obligation. Those are the concepts it deals with. You can talk about impure and pure, about kosher and non-kosher, but at bottom, what we are really dealing with is the forbidden, the permitted, and obligation. And these concepts belong in their essence to the normative plane, to the normative sphere. And when we issue a halakhic ruling, we take a given situation—we need to analyze the situation, and by situation I mean facts—we need to analyze the situation, but Jewish law is not connected to the analysis of the situation. Jewish law says: after you’ve analyzed the situation, I’ll tell you whether it is permitted, forbidden, or obligatory, or what is permitted, forbidden, and obligatory in that situation. In other words, the essence of Jewish law is to attach a norm to a factual situation. Give me a factual situation, and I’ll tell you what norms apply to that factual situation. Therefore, in its essence Jewish law is basically norms only. It has nothing to say about facts. Therefore, even though when we study the Talmud / Talmudic text we very often encounter factual determinations, there is no obligation on us to adopt those factual determinations. There is no such obligation, because of what I said earlier—that there is no formal authority with respect to facts—but from that I also derive not only that the authority regarding those facts doesn’t exist, but that the Talmud / Talmudic text doesn’t even purport to tell us those facts in the first place. Meaning, facts are not the point the Talmud / Talmudic text is trying to communicate to us. That’s not really the message we are supposed to extract from studying the passage. From the study of the passage we are supposed to extract only the norms. And then this is just a continuation of the claim that formal authority has no place with respect to facts. The example—an example I’ve already brought in the past on this issue—is, say, the Talmud / Talmudic text in tractate… the example, an example I’ve already brought before on this issue, is, say, the Talmud / Talmudic text in tractate Bava Batra speaks about the presumption that a person does not repay before the due date. Meaning, if I sue someone and I tell him, I say to him: I lent you money, you owe me one hundred shekels, and he says: no, nothing of the sort, it never happened—then the burden of proof is on me. Because I’m the claimant, I want him to pay me, so I’m the one trying to extract money from him, and therefore the burden of proof is on me. What happens if I say to him: you borrowed from me a week ago, and an unspecified loan is for thirty days for the sake of discussion, an unspecified loan is for thirty days, and now the person comes and says: I repaid. Okay? Now if he says “I repaid,” the Talmud / Talmudic text in Bava Batra 5 says that he is not believed. Why? Even though, notice, he is the current holder, meaning the burden of proof should be on me, I’m the claimant. Okay? So seemingly, if we have a dispute, I’m the one who has to bring proof in order to get the money. The Talmud / Talmudic text says no. If he says “I repaid,” I’ll get the money without proof. The burden of proof shifts to him. Why? So the Talmud / Talmudic text says: because there is a presumption that a person does not repay before the due date. Meaning, if a person has money and can hold onto it for thirty days, there is no reason in the world to assume that he repaid it after five days. You have another twenty-five days to hold onto the money—why give that up just like that when you don’t have to? Therefore the basic assumption is that you did not repay, unless you prove that in this case you really did decide to repay before the due date. But otherwise, only a week has passed—how did you repay? What, you repaid after five days? You have another twenty-five days to hold onto the money. So therefore you are not believed. If you claim that you repaid after the due date, in that situation you are believed, because then we return to the rule that the burden of proof is on the claimant, and the presumption that a person does not repay before the due date doesn’t apply, because you are claiming that you repaid after the due date. Yes, just an interesting side note: if I sue him after forty days, and he says, “I repaid before the due date—I repaid two weeks ago,” when the repayment date is thirty days—does he have credibility or not? So the Talmud / Talmudic text discusses that there; that’s actually the whole passage: migo against a presumption. He has a migo, because he says, “I repaid two weeks ago,” but he could have said, “I repaid now.” If he had said, “I repaid now,” he would be believed, because that is repayment after the due date, after thirty days. But instead he wants to make the weaker claim: “I repaid before the due date.” Since he had a migo—that he could have said he repaid now—it may be that he would be believed. That is migo against a presumption. The Talmud / Talmudic text there does not decide that discussion. In any case, so that is the Talmudic rule: within the due period, you are not believed to say that you repaid. What happens if we find ourselves in a situation, or a situation arises, in which people do repay before the due date? Reality has changed. Meaning, now people do repay before the due date—it’s a reasonable form of conduct, let’s say. For example, we are already used to the legal fiction of a business arrangement in place of interest, and so we basically take interest-bearing loans—mortgages, or loans from the bank, or even private loans, whatever—and there is this halakhic mechanism, so somehow we know how to organize the matter. It’s not interest, but basically it is interest. Now what happens in a case like a mortgage, which we all know, is that if a person suddenly gets some money earlier than expected, very often he’ll decide to pay off the mortgage so as not to pay all the interest that keeps accumulating, and therefore he decides to repay before the due date, before he is obligated, before the time for repayment arrives. Okay? And that is reasonable behavior. Meaning, it’s common practice in the reality we live in. Now let’s say the bank comes to the religious court and says the person took a mortgage from me and didn’t repay, and the person says, “I repaid,” and this is before the due date. “I repaid.” Do we need to stick to the Talmudic rule and say that a person is not believed to say he repaid before the due date because there is a presumption that a person does not repay before the due date? It seems quite obvious that we do not. Why not? Because today that presumption no longer exists. A person does repay before the due date. Therefore the reality of the Talmud / Talmudic text has changed, and since that’s the case, today you’re supposed to rule according to the reality assessment relevant to the place and time in which you are operating. So now the question is: isn’t that effectively departing from the halakhic ruling that appears in the Talmud / Talmudic text? After all, the Talmud / Talmudic text has authority in the halakhic realm. And it says that a person is not believed to have repaid before the due date, and that there is a presumption that a person does not repay before the due date, and I am essentially ruling against the Talmud’s ruling. How can that be? The Talmud / Talmudic text has halakhic authority. And the answer is that there is no authority with respect to facts. But here it is much more than that—or much better than that, depending how you look at it—than the claim that there is no authority with respect to facts. Here my claim is that the Talmud / Talmudic text is not even making the factual claim. Therefore I don’t even need to discuss whether it has authority or not. The Talmud / Talmudic text is basically describing a situation that prevailed in its time. In its time people did not repay before the due date. And then it established this rule that says there is a presumption that a person does not repay before the due date, and if he claims “I repaid,” he is not believed. But the Talmud / Talmudic text is not insisting that throughout all of history, in all times and places, a person never repays before the due date. If there is a different situation, adjust the rule to the new situation. It’s not that I am now disagreeing with the Talmud / Talmudic text because it has no authority in the factual realm. I’m not disagreeing with the Talmud / Talmudic text. In the time of the Talmud / Talmudic text, probably people really did not repay before the due date. I’m only claiming that today reality is different. That is not called disagreeing with the Talmud / Talmudic text. Reality has changed. It’s not that the Talmud / Talmudic text spoke about my reality today and I nevertheless want to behave differently. It spoke about a different reality. Now the question—and this is how I like to sharpen the point—is: should I now tear this page out of Bava Batra and throw it in the trash, page 5? Because the presumption that a person does not repay before the due date is no longer relevant today. So what do I have to learn from it? It is not the practical halakhic ruling, it is not what is followed in practice today, it isn’t relevant. And especially since it is a factual determination—so who cares? A factual determination that prevailed in their time. In our time reality is different. So why, what holiness is there in this page? We should throw it in the trash. So I claim no. Why not? Because even then, the Talmud / Talmudic text did not intend to say, to introduce, that fact or that psychological assessment. A psychological assessment is a fact, right? A fact about human behavior—that people do not repay before the due date. The Talmud / Talmudic text did not intend to introduce that at all. The Talmud / Talmudic text intended to introduce the halakhic, normative principle—which has no connection at all to facts—that if you have a presumption, that can reverse the burden of proof from the claimant to the current holder. And that is a purely halakhic novelty; it has no connection to facts. The Talmud / Talmudic text basically told me that usually the burden of proof is on the plaintiff. The one who seeks to extract from another bears the burden of proof. But in a place where there is a presumption against the current holder, the burden of proof can be reversed. And now it is the current holder who will have to bring proof, not the claimant. That is the novelty of the Talmud / Talmudic text, and that is a novelty that exists always, and one does not disagree with that, because the Talmud / Talmudic text has authority in the factual realm—in the halakhic realm, sorry. How did the Talmud / Talmudic text say it? It took an example that was relevant in its time. In its time there was a presumption that a person does not repay before the due date. That was the fact. The Talmud / Talmudic text uses that fact in order to convey the normative message. It doesn’t care about conveying the factual message. Factually—what difference does it make? Then that was the custom, and today it isn’t. So what? Assess reality according to what is happening around you in the relevant place and time. But the Talmud / Talmudic text used the presumption of its time in order to tell me the rule that is always true: that if there is a presumption against the current holder, the burden of proof shifts to him and not to the claimant. And that is always true. For example, in our case, where let’s say we have the opposite presumption—that a person does repay before the due date—just for the sake of discussion, it’s not true, but for the sake of discussion, okay? It could be that in such a case the burden of proof will be determined according to that presumption, and that will be the application of the rule the Talmud / Talmudic text is speaking about. That is not a departure from what the Talmud / Talmudic text says; on the contrary, that’s how you apply what the Talmud / Talmudic text says. Why? Because what the Talmud / Talmudic text says is: act in accordance with the presumptions you have. That’s what it is really saying. It doesn’t care whether this is presumption X or presumption minus X, or not-X. It makes no difference. Check what the presumption is, check reality, see what the presumption is, and now in light of that presumption you can decide monetary law and shift the burden of proof from the claimant to the current holder. That is what the Talmud / Talmudic text says, and that is how I act. From that I am not deviating. Because that is a normative instruction, that is a halakhic instruction. And a halakhic instruction is binding; the Talmud / Talmudic text has authority. But the assessment of reality is not relevant. Meaning, the message that emerges from the Talmud / Talmudic text on page 5 of Bava Batra is not the factual assessment that people do not repay before the due date. That is really not interesting; that is not Torah at all. It’s just a psychological assessment—what does that have to do with anything? What is Torah in this passage is that once a given presumption is available to me, I can use the presumption to decide monetary law, to determine on whom the burden of proof rests. And that is a halakhic rule, unrelated to facts. Facts can change, but always, in accordance with the relevant facts, I will apply this normative rule. And it is always true. And when the Talmud / Talmudic text said it—on that one does not disagree. That’s the claim. And basically what we learn from here is that in its essence, Jewish law does not deal with facts at all. Jewish law sometimes uses facts. Jewish law says there are factual data on top of which I need to determine what Jewish law says—forbidden, permitted, obligatory. Okay? But what are the factual data? Let everyone examine that with the best tools at their disposal and in the relevant reality. Don’t examine reality in Babylonia from seventeen hundred years ago. Examine reality in Israel today if you want to decide a case. Why decide the law based on reality assessments given in Babylonia seventeen hundred years ago? There is no logic in that at all. Therefore it is clear that reality assessments are not part of Torah in the first place. If I give the list of presumptions—there is, for example, in the Talmudic Encyclopedia, an entry called “presumption,” there are several entries called “presumption.” There are also specific presumptions, but “presumption.” Okay? Those sections are not really a Talmudic encyclopedia at all; they are a psychological encyclopedia. What is there is not Torah at all. It has nothing to do with it. Those are reality assessments. The only thing that belongs to Torah is what one does given a particular presumption. Once I have checked what the current presumption is, the question is what to do. Therefore Jewish law is pure norms. Jewish law does not deal with facts at all, only with norms. Okay? Even when the halakhic passage involves facts, that is only the substrate on which we determine the Jewish law. It is not part of the Jewish law itself, and it is not something the Talmud / Talmudic text is interested in at all. And certainly it has no authority regarding that, and one need not relate to it at all. And a great many halakhic decisors ignore this distinction. They conduct discussions based on reality assessments from Babylonia seventeen hundred years ago, which is simply foolish, simply a total lack of understanding. And because there is this kind of attachment to what is written in the Talmud / Talmudic text, you supposedly cannot depart from determinations made by the Talmud / Talmudic text. For example, a more charged presumption, let’s call it, is the presumption “It is better to sit as two than to sit as a widow”—that a woman prefers partnership almost at any price over widowhood, yes, over sitting alone. So at any price—even if the husband is afflicted with boils, even if he has all sorts of defects, still a woman will prefer to have a partner. That is an assessment of the Talmud / Talmudic text, and from that they derive all kinds of conclusions. Now this presumption—that a woman is willing to pay almost any price for a relationship—has many halakhic implications today, right now. For example, a woman marries a husband and it turns out that he is an abusive husband. But it turns out that this abusive character of his was already true at the time of the marriage, not that he developed some violent nature afterward. It was true from the outset. Now the question is whether the woman can say: with that understanding I never consented to the marriage. And since that is so, I am not really his wife. I don’t need a divorce document. They simply aren’t married. Because her consent to the marriage was based on partial information or mistaken information. And therefore the transaction is void, the contract is void. And since that is so, there never was a betrothal in the first place, and consequently no divorce document is needed to separate. In principle, that should be the law. But the Talmud / Talmudic text says no. There is the presumption, “Better to sit as two than to sit as a widow.” What does that mean? The woman wants a relationship even if the husband is abusive. Even if the husband is, I don’t know what, very ill, afflicted with boils, whatever, all kinds of things, mentally ill, whatever it may be. Okay? Because for a woman, a relationship is worth any price. That is the Talmud’s presumption. And from that it follows that such a woman now may have to run after her husband and ask him for a divorce document, and if he won’t give her one then she is chained to the marriage, and they won’t let her remarry. Even though in truth, according to the law, she is single; she can marry, and she doesn’t need the husband, doesn’t need a divorce document from him. This could free quite a few women who are refused a divorce document, if there really is a sufficiently significant reason that casts doubt on the consent to the betrothal. Obviously not every case, but there are cases, quite a few such cases. So in such a situation, once again, my claim is exactly like the presumption that a person does not repay before the due date. That presumption is a reality assessment the Sages made for their time, in Babylonia seventeen hundred years ago. Now I examine myself in society in present-day Israel, and I ask myself whether a woman is willing to marry even an abusive husband or a mentally ill husband. And I think the average woman is not willing to do that. That is my assessment of reality today regarding women today. This goes against the presumption established by the Talmud / Talmudic text, because the Talmud / Talmudic text says that a woman consents to almost anything. So the question now is what I am supposed to assume when I come to rule on the matter. Am I supposed to take the presumptions established by the Talmud / Talmudic text, or am I supposed to examine the reality around me and act according to my assessment of the reality around me? So just as I said regarding the presumption that a person does not repay before the due date, I say the same thing here. Once today that presumption no longer exists—it exists in part; a woman wants a relationship, and by the way a man also wants a relationship—but it is no longer at the prices set by the Talmud / Talmudic text. Meaning, there are many prices the average woman would not be willing to pay for a relationship. The proof is that women remain unmarried until a very late age and are not willing to marry, and they reject various suitors who don’t seem right to them, for all kinds of reasons, each woman with her reasons. So you cannot say that a woman wants a partner at any price. Long before he is abusive or mentally ill, a woman may not be willing to marry him simply because she doesn’t like him. Today that is routine. So that means that the presumption has in fact changed. Today the presumption is different. So now I ask you: what is the point of leaving this woman chained to a marriage and begging the husband to give her a divorce document, when in fact they are not married at all according to Jewish law? Because in the Talmud / Talmudic text the reality was that a woman wanted a relationship at any price. That was in Babylonia seventeen hundred years ago, when a woman could not support herself and had to have someone support her after her father died.

[Speaker B] So now you can open the Talmud / Talmudic text, and anything there that is based on psychological analyses, and anything connected to one kind of mental estimation or another that existed then throughout the generations—every generation we can reopen it and decide that now the psychological structure of this generation is different from what it was so many years ago. Women are light-minded, disqualified from testimony, migo, partial admission—all these things are not fixed in the eternal Torah; they are something that changes.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Exactly. Exactly. Right. You described it precisely.

[Speaker B] That’s something extremely far-reaching.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Far-reaching, but basic. Not only is it basic—it follows from conceptual analysis. You don’t need sources for it. If the sources say otherwise, then they are mistaken. It’s a simple conceptual analysis. You cannot assume factual assumptions when the facts are not those facts. Those are not the facts. You can’t say that the woman consented to the betrothal when the fact is that she did not consent to that betrothal. What—because it says in the Talmud / Talmudic text that women back then consented to such betrothals, so today I look at a woman who tells me, “I do not consent to this betrothal,” and I tell her, “No, no, you don’t understand, actually you do consent”?

[Speaker B] I think that psychologically motivated drives have always been the same psychological drives. And if the Talmud / Talmudic text says—the Torah comes and says—that a person, you can’t know what reality is and what the truth is; the person discovers that in the course of psychological uncovering.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] So here I have a serious disagreement with you. I completely disagree. It seems to me that your disagreement is with reality, not with me. Reality changes. What can you do? Reality changes. And you can say that there are laws that do not depend on reality. Meaning, for example, that’s something else. You can say, for instance—you mentioned the fitness of a woman for testimony, right? That’s also an example I bring up quite a bit. So you mentioned “women are light-minded,” but no one mentioned that with respect to the disqualification of a woman from testimony. There is no hint of that in the Talmud / Talmudic text. The Talmud / Talmudic text raises such a possibility, but in the end that is not the explanation. Some later authorities (Acharonim) do want to tie it to that, but there it is a matter for discussion. Now I can say that today women are not light-minded, so back then they were light-minded and therefore today they should be accepted as witnesses. To that someone can respond in one of two ways. Either he can say: you don’t understand what “light-minded” means. True, they are very educated today, but they still have more impulsiveness than men. Suppose. I don’t know if that’s true. That’s one possible argument and it needs to be examined. If it’s true, then it’s true. A second possible argument is that the disqualification of women from testimony has nothing to do with being light-minded. That’s your interpretation, but who says that is the basis of the disqualification? And that again could reject the suggestion to accept them as witnesses today. No problem—both of those arguments are legitimate, and they need to be discussed. But you cannot say that yes, the basis of the law is that women are light-minded, and agree with my reality assessment today that they are not light-minded, and still keep the Talmudic ruling. That is simply a logical contradiction. Okay? Therefore I say: you can argue about whether reality has changed, as you did earlier. I don’t agree with you, but okay, you claim that—that’s legitimate. I think you are mistaken, but okay, it is a possible claim. You can say that reality has changed but the law does not depend on reality, or not on this reality but on some other reality. You cannot say that I stick to what the Talmud / Talmudic text says and therefore that’s how I act. That you cannot say. In order to stick to what the Talmud / Talmudic text says, you have to assume that reality today is the same. If you assume that, then that’s perfectly fine. I disagree with you, but it’s consistent. But if you claim that reality today has changed, but you stick to the Talmud / Talmudic text because the Talmud / Talmudic text has authority, then you are simply wrong. So that is the point, and I think you are right that a great many laws are indeed open to this kind of critique, or to these kinds of changes, exactly through arguments of this type. And that frightens people terribly. As you said, it’s extremely far-reaching, and it smells of reform. Fine, I don’t care—the smell doesn’t amount to anything. The question is whether it’s true or not, not what smell it has. And after that you can say: fine, even though it’s true, I still want to be stringent because otherwise everyone will become reformers. Okay, that’s a second-order argument. Fine? So my claim, basically, is that the essence of Jewish law is only norms. Jewish law does not deal with facts. Therefore even if there is a factual determination in the Talmud / Talmudic text, I can disagree with it. And all the more so if I’m not even disagreeing with it at all, but only saying that the reality in our time is different. By the way, if you leave aside “Better to sit as two than to sit as a widow,” in other contexts halakhic decisors do this at every turn. These are everyday things. The failure to update factual determinations that appear in the Talmud / Talmudic text—only in sensitive topics like the status of women and marriage and so forth, where it really is difficult, where the decisors’ hearts are heavy about going against determinations of the Talmud / Talmudic text—there you get world wars, and out comes, yes, Rabbi Soloveitchik’s famous statement that the presumption “Better to sit as two” like all presumptions was given at Sinai. I’m sure he himself did not believe that nonsense, and all kinds of statements of that sort, which basically come to fortify Jewish law against claims of change of this kind. Okay? But in other contexts everybody does it. I’ve given many examples of this in the past—assessments regarding, for example, I don’t know, not even psychological assessments, but “do not form separate factions.” It is forbidden to have two courts in one city. That is how Maimonides rules in Jewish law; there he rules like Abaye against Rava—it’s strange, one of those exceptions, and nevertheless he rules like Abaye. It’s one of the beautiful examples. But that’s how he rules, and that is how it is ruled in Jewish law in the end by most halakhic decisors down to our time. Okay? And still, I don’t know a city that does not have two synagogues. Plenty—there isn’t. Every city is like that. There is no city with only one synagogue. At minimum you need another synagogue in order not to pray there, remember. So there is no city with only one synagogue. How does that work? It stands in direct contradiction to the law. A Talmudic law. Rather, what? It is obvious to everyone that reality today is different from what it was in their time. Today the concept of “city” has undergone virtualization. And basically the claim is that “city” means a community or congregation, not a city in the geographic, municipal sense. Why? Because today the world is much more dynamic. People move from one city to another; city is no longer the relevant parameter for defining reality, the geographical parameter. The world is much more dynamic. People are born here and marry there and move house here; there are cars and all that, and you no longer need wagons and horses dragging your whole household on a cart. In a static world you can talk about the custom of the place. In our world nobody talks about the custom of the place. People talk about the custom of the community, not the custom of the place. The custom of the parents, yes—Ashkenazim follow Ashkenazi custom, Sephardim follow Sephardi custom. What is the custom of the parents? There is the custom of the place. No—today the place is the virtual place, namely the community you come from; it is no longer a geographical concept. Therefore these changes in reality affect halakhic rulings at every turn, and there are many examples. I don’t think any religious court would even consider relying on the presumption that a person does not repay before the due date in a situation where it is clear that people do repay. I don’t believe there is a religious court—the most, the most conservative in the world—that would do that. But when it comes to the presumption “Better to sit as two than to sit as a widow,” suddenly it becomes sacred. Why? Because the reformers and liberals and all the deniers and the like argue against this—and rightly. So therefore it turns into this kind of war, and it becomes a presumption that was given at Sinai and cannot be changed, and what the Talmud / Talmudic text said is entirely true today as well. And with all the other presumptions people do what they want; they change them according to reality without too many problems. But not here. And I think this is just anti-reform hysteria, really. Things have changed, that’s all. One has to examine how much they have changed. People still want relationships. It’s not that every single thing that is discovered and was not known at the time of the betrothal means that the woman doesn’t want him. No. There are things where yes, and things where no. But there are also what in the legal world are called material breaches of contract. There is information whose absence is material to the consent, to the meeting of minds around the contract. In such a situation, the meeting of minds was based on error; it’s a mistaken transaction. She doesn’t need a divorce document and doesn’t need anything; she can go on her way in peace. More than that—I participated in the annulment of betrothals of at least two women, and wrote several other opinions for other women, and the argument—what I said even more strongly—was that in the end you don’t even need a religious court for this. Usually when they do annulment of betrothal, they do it in a religious court. But actually here you don’t need a religious court, because I’m not annulling the betrothal; I’m telling her that she was never married in the first place. She has been living in error until now. She simply was never married. I am not doing any legal act; I don’t need to be a court at all. It’s a halakhic teacher who tells her: listen, you were not married, you were mistaken, you lived under an illusion. That’s all. These things seem simple to me. Now true, they touch on the gravest prohibitions—prohibitions of a married woman, sexual prohibitions, the kind of thing about which one must give one’s life rather than transgress; these are the most severe matters there are—but that is the Jewish law. By the way, there are precedents for this here and there among the halakhic decisors—admittedly more rarely, but there are precedents. Halakhic decisors do use this in places where the presumption “Better to sit as two than to sit as a widow” does not apply. There are precedents for it even in the past. Okay, anyway, to return to our subject: this is basically the completion of the example I gave last time, and I’m trying to show that Jewish law in its essence is a domain that deals with norms. It has nothing to say about facts. And this is exactly the same point, or a continuation of the same point, that I discussed last time—that authority applies only to norms and not to facts. There is authority in Jewish law. If you want to clarify the factual basis, go to the psychology department, go to the criminology department, whatever department you want. Check—or check it yourself—what reality is. That’s all. To learn reality from the Talmud / Talmudic text is folly. The Talmud / Talmudic text is speaking about a different reality—sometimes, a completely different reality. What appears in the Talmud / Talmudic text has no special status. You can use it as you would use anything else, but if you see that the situation is different, then it is different, and there is no problem with that.

[Speaker B] You need to determine that this Jewish law is embedded only in the reality—it is based only on a certain reality and not on something else we’re unaware of—and that the reality has changed. Right. Those two things. And then every generation, who exactly can come and say now—

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] We erase and change? Whoever sits in the seat of deciding Jewish law. Any halakhic decisor, I don’t know—each person according to his decisor.

[Speaker B] Yes, but he has to decide that reality has changed. Right. And then if another rabbi says reality hasn’t changed, then everyone can decide for himself what reality is.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Of course, just like there are other disputes in Jewish law. So that rabbi thinks this way and that rabbi thinks that way—what can you do? By the way, a rabbi’s role in this sense, the role of the rabbi or the judge, is also to assess reality. Because in the end, when you issue a halakhic ruling, first of all you have to determine what the reality is, and then decide what the relevant Jewish law is in that reality. By the way, that’s also how it works in the legal world. Who decides what the relevant scientific facts are when judges sit in court? The judges. They hear expert witnesses, but the expert witnesses may disagree with each other, so who decides what is correct? Psychiatrists argue among themselves about this kind of criminal guilt or that kind of criminal responsibility—who decides? The judge decides. Is he a better psychiatrist? No, but he is the one who has to make the legal decision, and a legal decision requires a decision about the facts, there’s no choice. The authority to decide about the facts is entrusted to him. Not that he determines the facts, but he has to assess what the facts are, okay? I of course also don’t have to accept his factual determinations—that doesn’t obligate me. I have to accept his halakhic ruling, because he’s the judge. But as for assessing reality, he has no authority in the sense that even if he determined that this is the reality, if I think he made a mistake and in my view reality is different, there’s no reason I have to accept that. Fine. So maybe this is the continuation of that same issue. I’ll take advantage of the momentum and move on to the next example of conceptual analysis, which is very closely connected to this example. And here I really want to talk about changes in Jewish law, which is exactly what came up in Ariel’s questions just now—Ariel, right? I’m just seeing it by the heading in the… So that’s what came up in Ariel’s questions just now. There really is something here that sounds Reform. You change Jewish law in light of changes in reality. Seemingly, that’s the whole struggle between Reform and Orthodox, between those loyal to Jewish law and those not loyal to Jewish law. So where exactly is the line? What is it that I’m not allowed to change? Here too, I think, once again—I’ll give the same introduction I gave last time, but this time briefly. When you ask a halakhic decisor, a rabbi, I don’t know, someone—where the line is, or what may and may not be changed—he’ll bring you sources and precedents and look in this book and that book: here you can change, here you can’t change. But usually you won’t hear from him conceptual analysis. And in this case too, conceptual analysis solves the problem and there’s no need to open a single book. You can sit in an armchair and answer the question. Because the conceptual analysis gives the answer. And when we do the conceptual analysis of this matter, what I really need to analyze is the concept of change. There are many concepts that sound self-evident to us. Authority is the concept I’ve been talking about until now. So what is authority? And what is change? What is a fact? We talked about that last time. Now I’m asking what change is. Before I discuss whether one can change or cannot change, and where one can change, I ask: what is change? What is change at all? And it turns out, when you think about it a bit, that this concept is far from simple. Far from simple. The standard example I always bring in this context—an example that isn’t mine but that of some friend of mine, from childhood we used to exchange examples all the time. Examples are a wonderful thing. You collect examples, and I have an example to trade, and you can—I have a collection of examples. In any case, it’s not always clear what the example is good for, but sometimes you see there’s something here that is an example. Leave aside for the moment what it’s good for. You just—you smell that there’s something here that has intellectual potential, let’s call it that. And sometimes later on you suddenly understand what exactly that example gives, what it demonstrates. In this case, he says to me, look, think about this—we were also talking about changes in Jewish law. He’s secular. So he asks me what it means to change Jewish law. Really, the first thing he asked me was what change means. He says: look, let me give you an example. There’s a group of people walking through the desert in swimsuits, and their ancestors also walked in swimsuits. That was their ancestral custom—to walk around in swimsuits. Fine? Just for example, of course. At some stage they reach a cold region. It starts getting cold. They arrive at the edge of the desert, the desert frontier, okay? So some of the people say: fine, the tradition of our ancestors is in our hands, and we continue walking in swimsuits even though it’s cold. They are, of course, conservatives, right? They are faithful to the tradition of their ancestors. A second group says: with all due respect to the tradition of our ancestors, I’m cold. I’m putting on a coat. Okay? So these are heretics, Reform, heretics, call them whatever you want. Fine? But there’s a third group. The third group says—and this will remind you of my earlier discussion with Ariel—the third group says: I claim that our ancestors walked in swimsuits because they lived in a hot region. But in a cold region, our ancestors too would have supported wearing a coat. And therefore I am actually continuing the tradition of my ancestors by wearing a coat. Or, in a more extreme formulation, I would say this: the tradition of our ancestors does not say to walk in a swimsuit. That is not our tradition. The tradition of our ancestors says to wear clothing appropriate to the weather. It’s just that our ancestors, who lived in a hot region, wore swimsuits because that was the clothing appropriate to the weather there. We, who live in a cold region, the clothing appropriate to the weather here is a coat. Therefore—notice—not only am I allowed to wear a parka. Wearing a parka is not a deviation from my ancestors’ tradition. Wearing a parka is the continuation of my ancestors’ tradition. Someone who continues to walk around in a swimsuit is a heretic. A heretic, because he is walking around in clothing inappropriate to the weather. Understand the difference. There’s a difference between saying: I have permission to wear a coat under extenuating circumstances. Maybe that fits within the boundaries of the tradition, I don’t know, I have this argument or that argument. Here I’m making a much stronger claim. I’m claiming that the tradition obligates me to wear a coat. Whoever doesn’t wear a coat deviates from the tradition. Whoever continues to walk around with total self-sacrifice in a swimsuit even though he’s cold is a heretic. Because he is not following the tradition of our ancestors. The tradition of our ancestors was to wear clothing appropriate to the weather. He isn’t wearing clothing appropriate to the weather. Is such an approach not a conservative approach? Oh, it absolutely is a conservative approach. It seems obvious to me that it is completely conservative. It is an approach that is entirely attached to the tradition and preserves it. What is the argument between this approach and the first approach? The question is what the tradition says—what tradition one has to preserve. If the tradition says to walk in a swimsuit, then you are a conservative of the first type. Or if the tradition says to wear clothing appropriate to the weather, then you are a conservative of the third type. But both of you are conservatives. The disagreement is only over the question of what it is you are preserving—what the tradition says. That is in contrast to the second approach I described, which says: leave me alone with the tradition, I’m cold. Yes, like the rabbi of Brisk—you know the story about the rabbi of Brisk? During the War of Independence there were rumors—he lived in Jerusalem, the Griz, yes?—there were rumors that he was about to flee. Because there was gunfire and war and so on. There were rumors that he was going to flee. So Rabbi Herzog, who was the Chief Rabbi, came to persuade him to stay, because he was afraid of demoralization. If the rabbi of Brisk fled, that would demoralize people; he was considered an important figure. So he came to persuade him, and said: look, we have a tradition that the Third Temple will not be destroyed. Don’t worry, we’ll win this war. We have a tradition that the Third Temple will not be destroyed. So the rabbi of Brisk answered him: and I have a tradition from my father that when they shoot, you run away. That’s my tradition. I think that story is one of the—one of the wonderful examples, by the way this too is an example—one of the wonderful examples of a Religious Zionist mode of thought versus a Haredi mode of thought. The Haredi mode of thought is much more pragmatic, by the way, although there are people who mistakenly think otherwise. But we’ll leave that for another time. In any case, for our purposes, my tradition says to wear clothing that protects me from the cold, and not to continue walking around in a swimsuit. We always regard this suspiciously, because somehow it comes out that this result is the one I’m most comfortable with. I wear a coat when it’s cold. So these arguments are always treated with suspicion. Basically people say to me: look, you’re a heretic under the guise of a conservative, but really you’re just looking for the easy life. The convenient route, as they say. Okay? But that’s not true, or not necessarily true. It could be true, but it isn’t necessarily true. A person could say that this really is how he interprets the tradition. Tradition undergoes interpretation. Many traditions we received—we interpret them; we don’t preserve them as-is. We interpret them. There’s almost nothing that doesn’t. So here, this is the interpretation he believes in. In this case, it also happens to work out conveniently for him and fit what he wants. Yes, this instinct always reminds me of the well-known saying: it’s too good to be kosher. Too convenient to be kosher. Meaning, if it’s convenient for you, that’s a sign that probably something forbidden is going on here. So no, I don’t accept that. Why is convenience…

[Speaker C] Why is convenience not good?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Convenience can absolutely also be kosher. You don’t have to suffer. You have to suffer when you need to. But there is no commandment to suffer for the sake of suffering. If your conclusion is that the tradition says to wear clothing appropriate to the weather, then that really is the tradition and that is what you should do. And someone who walks around in a swimsuit despite his self-sacrifice, therefore he is not suspect of being a hidden heretic or hidden Reformer, because he is paying a price—he walks around in a swimsuit even though he’s cold. But he is actually a heretic, because in my opinion the tradition says to wear clothing appropriate to the weather, and then he isn’t doing that, he is deviating from the tradition. Now, one can argue…

[Speaker B] Wait, but what does that mean, sorry—you’re saying tradition in the sense of the original source of that determination?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] To each his own tradition; the concept is general, everyone and his own tradition.

[Speaker B] But if we take that concept, there’s tradition in the sense that I can see for hundreds and thousands of years that my forefathers acted this way or that way. But if my forefathers acted in a certain way, then apparently there is some weight to the fact that the tradition from…

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] From the beginning… because just as my ancestors wore clothing appropriate to the weather, so do I. I’m sticking to what my ancestors did. I’m doing—

[Speaker B] No, but my forefathers always walked around in swimsuits regardless of the weather.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] No, they always walked around in clothing appropriate to the weather. It just happened that they lived in a hot region, so they always wore swimsuits. So again I’m saying: if the facts are different, and they wore swimsuits even when it was cold, then that’s an argument. I’m talking about a case where the facts are such that it was always hot. Fine? So we have a disagreement about what exactly our ancestors transmitted to us. A legitimate disagreement. It has two sides. And I am no less conservative than the other person, even though what I do may be more comfortable for me. There is no necessity to say that I am really a heretic in disguise. No. This is my interpretation, and this is what I do. So now I ask you: is this called change or not called change? Who here is the changer? Maybe the one walking around in a swimsuit is the changer, because he is changing the tradition that says to wear clothing appropriate to the weather. Or maybe I am the changer, because they used to walk around in swimsuits and now I’m changing and wearing a coat. You understand that the concept of change is not a trivial concept. It is very hard, in certain cases, to define what it means to change or of course to preserve. To change and to preserve are two sides of the same coin. What is hard to define as change is also hard to define as preservation, right? Both of these things are very hard to define. I call these two approaches plain-sense conservatism and interpretive conservatism. Plain-sense conservatism means you preserve the plain meaning. The plain meaning is that they wore swimsuits, so I stick to the plain meaning. They wore swimsuits; I’m not doing interpretive acrobatics. What I saw is what I do. So let’s call that plain-sense conservatism. But there is also interpretive conservatism, which is no less conservative. The only thing is that what it preserves is what our ancestors did plus interpretation. Interpretation here means exegesis. In other words, my ancestors wore swimsuits. Now I interpret that, and I say: what do you mean, they wore swimsuits? They wore swimsuits because it was hot. The principle really isn’t to wear a swimsuit; the principle is to wear clothing appropriate to the weather. That is an interpretive reading I make of what my ancestors did. And now I claim that this is the tradition, and I preserve it meticulously. So in essence I am conservative just like the first conservative; it’s only that what I preserve is the tradition after I’ve interpreted it, whereas he preserves the tradition without interpretations. He preserves the tradition in its plain sense, literally. Okay? But both of us are conservatives.

[Speaker D] How does that relate to custom?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] What do you mean? You can give custom the very same interpretation.

[Speaker D] You don’t change customs.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Fine, but the question is what counts as changing. Was the custom to walk around in swimsuits, or was the custom to wear clothing appropriate to the weather?

[Speaker D] No, swimsuits. There are all kinds of local customs, the customs people practiced.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] But that’s what I’m saying. The question is what it means to change the custom. If changing the custom means not doing what my ancestors did in the plain sense, or whether changing the custom means not doing what they did in the interpretive sense. You’re talking here about the concept of change, but I’m asking what your definition of the concept of change is. I claim that when I wear a coat I am preserving, not changing, the custom. On the contrary, I am fighting for the preservation of custom. And I would launch an all-out attack, a jihad, against those who continue to wear swimsuits, because they are not preserving the customs, those heretics that they are. Are you allowed to interpret? By the way, are you allowed—

[Speaker B] Are you allowed now to make a new interpretation after for hundreds and thousands of years all the Geonim and medieval authorities and so on didn’t make that interpretation? Meaning, they were aware of it, but they still didn’t make that interpretation.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] First of all, the question is whether in their time the reality was really like it is in my time.

[Speaker B] Obviously—so they couldn’t have interpreted that way.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Right. And I’m saying that even assuming the reality was different and they didn’t interpret it that way, authority—as I pointed out when we discussed authority—authority belongs only to the Talmudic text, not to the Geonim, not to the medieval authorities, and not to the later authorities. And the fact that they didn’t interpret it that way doesn’t mean that I can’t. So I will. I can take into account the fact that they didn’t interpret it that way and ask myself why not—because after all, they weren’t reeds in the swamp either. Meaning, if they didn’t make that interpretation, then I should think twice. It could be that my interpretation requires further examination. So I’ll examine it again, and maybe I’ll withdraw and not make that interpretation. But if I decide that it is sufficiently convincing for me, then the fact that they didn’t say it needs examination, but in my opinion this is the correct interpretation. I do not disagree with the Talmudic text. I do disagree with Geonim, medieval authorities, and later authorities—with all due respect—but I need to be very convinced in order to do that. Still, if I am convinced enough, then I will disagree. So here again we see that when, say, someone now proposes, like we discussed earlier, to validate women as witnesses—what reaction will he get? Reform, right? Obviously. Reform. You’ve disqualified him; he doesn’t pass the rules of the format, meaning he’s invalid from the outset. Now no one in the world has yet defined what Reform means. Reform means someone who changes Jewish law—that’s the literal translation, he institutes reform, meaning changes in Jewish law. And Orthodoxy is whoever preserves Jewish law. So in that less loaded language, it’s preserving versus changing. But now we need to define what preservation is and what change is. Has anyone ever defined that? Never. I don’t know anyone who has even dealt with it. And this again is the same lack I spoke about—the lack of conceptual analysis before starting the discussion. People immediately start talking about whether this is Reform or not Reform, they bring one source and another source, and there we found this and here we found that. What do I care what you found or didn’t find? I don’t know what the reality was in those places where you found those things. I’m asking the question: what counts as change? And I’m not discussing it by sources; I’m discussing it conceptually. I’m doing a conceptual analysis, linguistic, conceptual, logical—that’s the analysis I’m doing. And you’ll see that here, after the analysis I’m doing, suddenly I discover that an entire world of changes is not Reform, is actually not change. It looks like change to the plain eye, but it is not change. So here is another example of how healthy conceptual analysis can completely change the picture even before I’ve opened a source. And after I open sources, after I’ve done the conceptual analysis, I’ll have to interpret those sources in light of that conceptual analysis. Then I’ll ask myself—for example, suppose I see that even in the Middle Ages they were strict about ‘It is preferable to dwell as two than to dwell as a widow,’ not only in the time of the Talmud. Fine. Now I can interpret that in several ways. Maybe in their day too people were still in the same mindset as people in the Talmud, so no wonder they continued with that presumption, because it really was true in their time too. But today I think that presumption has changed. Women today don’t think that way. So I have no problem with this. So I interpreted the sources in light of the conceptual analysis and said: these sources are not relevant to me; there’s no point relating to them. So the conceptual analysis helps me even when I do go and open the sources—I know what to do with the sources. For example, I’ll try to look for what women thought in the period of, I don’t know, Maharam of Rothenburg, if I find some source of his on this issue. Maybe I have one historical source or another to see what women thought in that period. And if I discover that indeed the women of that period were like the women of our day, and nevertheless Maharam of Rothenburg didn’t make this interpretation, then that really is a hard question. Because then I’ll have to ask myself: wait, then why not? Apparently Maharam of Rothenburg understood that this law about a woman’s eligibility as a witness, or ‘It is preferable to dwell as two than to dwell as a widow,’ whatever, does not depend on this factual parameter, because clearly in his time it was different and yet he preserved the law. Now I have to ask myself whether I accept that or don’t accept it. But that source of Maharam of Rothenburg is now illuminated in a completely different light. Therefore conceptual analysis helps me not only because it saves me—as I said last time, I’m just repeating it—sometimes conceptual analysis saves me from opening the sources at all; I don’t need to open sources. But conceptual analysis also helps me decipher the sources after I’ve opened them. I can understand what the sources are saying, how to take them, and to what extent they are relevant to me or not relevant to me. So that is another example of conceptual analysis and all the implications it can have, like the previous examples. Now I want to bring one more example. I’ll bring you a story I once saw. I want to talk about—well, I’ll bring you the story first, and then I’ll tell you what I want to talk about. In the Haggadah—there is a ‘Beit Levi Haggadah,’ edited by some Garlitz fellow, which is basically the Brisk Haggadah. At the end of the Haggadah there is a series of stories about the rabbis of Brisk, the people of Brisk. Okay? One of the stories is about the Beit HaLevi. Beit HaLevi, the first of the Brisk dynasty—the book about Beit HaLevi is even called that: ‘The First of the Brisk Dynasty.’ The father of Rabbi Chaim, right? So the story goes like this. Look. Like this—one second, I’ll share. You know, this is from the genre of maskilic stories. It’s a familiar genre, I assume. ‘During one of the visits of our master, the author of Beit HaLevi, to the city of Minsk, one of the wealthy and powerful men of the city, who belonged to the camp of the Enlighteners, came to him and proposed that the time had already come for the great rabbis of the generation to try to ease the severe laws somewhat, and in this way those who had distanced themselves from the way of the Torah would surely draw near again.’ Right? A wealthy man, one of the city’s notables, approaches the rabbi and says: ‘Listen, the time has come for you to be a bit lenient. If you become lenient, it will also bring the public closer to Torah. People will be less alienated from it because it will be more user-friendly,’ and so on. ‘The author of Beit HaLevi smiled and revealed to the proposer of this honorable proposal the remarkable fact that in practice he himself belonged to the rabbis who, for ages, had already been very lenient in many laws. In general, he was a famously lenient man, the Beit HaLevi.’ Now anyone who knows the figures involved knows that the man was hysterically stringent. Just hysterically stringent. There’s another one of those stories there at the end of the Haggadah, about the Radbaz of Slutsk, the father-in-law of Rabbi Yechezkel Abramsky, the author of Chazon Yechezkel. He once held a Passover Seder in the Volozhin yeshiva. He came there for the Seder. And as is known, outside the Land of Israel there are two festival days, so he held the first Seder night with the Netziv and the second Seder night with Beit HaLevi. Both were heads of the Brisk yeshiva. The Netziv—he came to the Netziv and said, ‘Ah, what joy, happiness, delight, how wonderful, how many commandments we are performing.’ He was radiating happiness, the Netziv. It was just a pleasure, a real celebration. The Seder night, calm and joyous, continued until dawn. They told the story, ate matzah, enjoyed life, everything with a shining smile. The second Seder night he held with Beit HaLevi. And there the Seder night began in hysteria: when does matzah time finally arrive? Were the matzot they ate scorched so that there wouldn’t be any suspicion of something having become leavened? They were careful to eat it quickly before midnight, because according to most opinions one really has to eat the afikoman before midnight. Then there was hysteria over whether midnight means the earlier midnight or the later midnight, and they kept looking at the clock and checking whether they had fulfilled their obligation. Wait, and there is the opinion of this medieval authority and that later authority, and maybe we didn’t fulfill our obligation, and pressure and hysteria. And they ate an olive-bulk of matzah the size of two watermelons in order to satisfy all opinions. And after midnight they told the story of the Exodus all night until morning in order to fulfill the obligation of recounting the Exodus. In short, a hysterical Seder night. He says: ‘Go out and see the difference between the Netziv and Beit HaLevi.’ There is no moral. The story ends there. It’s just to teach you who Beit HaLevi was. Beit HaLevi was hysterically stringent. Now I return to our story. That same Enlightener comes to him and says, ‘The time has come for you rabbis to ease things a bit.’ He said to him: ‘What? You know, you’ve burst through an open door. I am already known and famous as a great lenient authority.’ ‘As is the way of merchants, who do not immediately offer all their wares,’ replied Beit HaLevi, ‘so I too will present before you seven examples of leniencies that I have ruled, and they will testify to the rest of my merchandise. A: There are those who are strict and say that the time for the evening prayer is only until midnight, and afterward one can no longer pray. If you missed midnight, you can’t pray. And I ruled leniently that one may pray until dawn. B: There are those who are strict regarding Rabbenu Tam phylacteries, that one has to be established in piety in order to put them on. And I ruled leniently that anyone may put them on.’ Right—he is lenient; anyone may do it, even someone not known for piety can put on both Rashi’s phylacteries and Rabbenu Tam’s. A well-known leniency. Another leniency: ‘There are those who are strict not to recite liturgical poems in the middle of the prayer because it constitutes an interruption in the prayer. And I ruled leniently that one may recite them. There are those who are strict not to study on the eve of the Ninth of Av when it falls on the Sabbath—to study Torah. Whereas I ruled leniently: one may study even actual laws. There are those who are strict not to fast on Rosh Hashanah, and I ruled leniently: you are allowed to fast’—yes, to fast on Rosh Hashanah. ‘There are those who are strict and say one must not observe two days of Yom Kippur, to fast two days.’ Right, the issue in China, in Shanghai, during World War II with the International Date Line, there was deliberation over perhaps fasting two days. Two days. And there really were halakhic decisors who sent them instructions: fast two days because of doubt. So he says: ‘There are those who are strict and say one must not observe two days of Yom Kippur, and I ruled leniently: you may fast two days.’ He has a very well-known leniency: you may fast two days. ‘There are those who are strict that if one forgot one night to count the Omer, he may no longer continue counting with a blessing. And I ruled leniently that he may count with a blessing.’ Okay? So this collection of leniencies of Beit HaLevi—I assume the fellow fled with his tail between his legs. Meaning, everyone laughs a lot when they read this story. Because it is obvious to everyone that these are stringencies, not leniencies. But admit that this is not trivial. Why isn’t it a leniency? There are people who forbid something, and Beit HaLevi permits it. Why isn’t that called a leniency? There are people who forbid fasting two days. He is lenient; he permits fasting two days on Yom Kippur. Why isn’t that a leniency? So this depends on the question—and this is the next example I want to focus on here—what is a leniency? And once again, I don’t know anyone who has done this. But one has to do a conceptual analysis of the concept of leniency. What is a leniency? We usually understand leniency as a mode of decision that is more pleasant for me. Right? What is more convenient for me, easier for me, more pleasant for me—that is a leniency. Then the question really arises: so what kind of leniency is this? He is lenient with me by allowing me to fast two days? Fasting two days is a stringency. Especially since if it is allowed to fast two days, then you have to fast two days. Because by the laws of doubt, you have to fast two days, since you don’t know which of the days is Yom Kippur. So if it is forbidden, then one has to find a solution. If it is permitted, then it’s not only permitted—you also have to fast two days. Is that a leniency? Forcing you to fast two days? So if the definition of leniency is what is more convenient for me to do, or more pleasant for me to do, then these leniencies are not leniencies; they are all stringencies, every last one. All seven examples of Beit HaLevi are stringencies. But why nevertheless does it strike us as important? Why do we still feel that there is some sort of leniency here? And it remains this sort of funny thing—but if you ask people why it’s funny, I’m not sure they’ll know how to answer. I tried it and didn’t get good answers. Let me add another point. In principle, why is the feeling that this is a leniency? Because there is something that certain decisors forbid and Beit HaLevi permits. To permit is a leniency, no? Even though he permits me to do something less pleasant for me, still he permitted something others forbid. Therefore there is some feeling that this is a leniency. But it is a leniency that allows me to do something less pleasant, not more pleasant. So what is a leniency? Let me ask the same question from a different angle. I once heard a story about the previous Klausenberger Rebbe from Netanya, Rabbi Yekusiel Yehuda Halberstam, the author of Divrei Yatziv. He said that when it rained, he remained sitting in the sukkah. He just couldn’t—he couldn’t eat outside the sukkah during Sukkot; it drove him crazy. Okay? So for him, if I tell him, ‘I’m ruling leniently for you in the laws of sukkah,’ would leniency mean to sit in the sukkah or not to sit in the sukkah? For an ordinary person, leniency means he is exempt from the sukkah, he doesn’t have to eat in the sukkah, he can eat outside. For the Klausenberger Rebbe, leniency means eat in the sukkah. That’s what is easier for him, more pleasant for him. Or alternatively, ‘in cases of doubt regarding blessings, be lenient.’ What does that mean? It means not to say the blessing. But if someone actually really wants to say the blessing—he loves blessing the Holy One blessed be He, he thinks it’s important, it builds him up, it speaks to him—you forbid him to say the blessing. Why? In cases of doubt concerning blessings, be lenient, so bless. Why does leniency always mean not to bless? Now notice—these are simple questions. But I don’t know anyone who has asked them. What is leniency? The most basic thing that people use all the time in the halakhic field. Leniency, stringency, he ruled leniently, he ruled stringently, this is lenient, this is stringent. What is this concept of leniency? Nobody defined it.

[Speaker E] There’s a passage in tractate Pesachim 52b—I went over it in the daily page a few days ago—there, regarding seventh-year wine, Rav Yosef applied the verse: ‘My people ask counsel of their wood, and their staff tells them.’ ‘Their staff tells them’—whoever is lenient, his staff tells him, meaning… so?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] What does that mean? What definition of leniency do you get from there?

[Speaker E] There, in the Talmudic text, leniency is leniency in the sense we use today. Meaning, the person who permits using the wine, drinking seventh-year wine, and Rav Yosef mocks that leniency. Meaning, Rav Yosef too, and the Talmudic text in general, understands leniency in the sense of what is more convenient to do, what is easier, what requires less physical and emotional effort from me.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] That is the accepted view. Fine, yes—but it isn’t correct. Because in doubtful cases concerning blessings, they will tell a person not to bless even if he likes blessing more. So what is leniency? I want to suggest the following. Leniency means permitting something that someone else forbids, even if that permission allows me to do something that is unpleasant and inconvenient for me, like fasting two days. In another formulation, I would say it like this: when I have two halakhic opinions, how do I determine which opinion is more stringent and which is more lenient? The answer is: by the number of legitimate options. If decisor A says I have three legitimate options in a situation, and decisor B says I have four legitimate options in that situation, then decisor B is the lenient one. Even if the fourth option he adds is to fast two days—that is, an option that isn’t pleasant for me. But since in his view there is one more legitimate option in the situation, he is the lenient one, because he is permitting something that the first one forbade, namely the fourth option. The first one had only three options, so he forbade the fourth. The second is lenient because he permits the fourth option. Ah, but it’s an option that makes things harder for me, that is less pleasant, less easy? Correct—but he added another option, so he is the lenient one. Leniency and stringency are measured not at all by the question of how pleasant it is for me. Leniency and stringency are measured by the question of how many options are open to me. The more options open before me, the more lenient it is.

[Speaker B] But in most cases there are two options.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Fine. So whoever allows two options is lenient relative to someone who allows one option. Fine, a particular case.

[Speaker B] No, but if in each case there is this option and that option, and one says this option and the other says the second option?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] Then neither is lenient and neither is stringent. Then there is no relation of leniency and stringency between the two rulings. The rulings simply disagree. But when there is a relationship of leniency and stringency, it is always when one opens n options and the other opens n plus one options, or n plus something options.

[Speaker B] Why not look at it in terms of committing a transgression? If there is a situation where either you commit a transgression or you don’t commit a transgression, and I say leniently: you are not committing a transgression in a situation where you acted in such-and-such a way?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] In other words, you opened another option for me. Suppose there is a dispute, say, whether one may separate—I don’t know—waste from food, food from waste, for the sake of discussion, okay? Now one person forbids it and one permits it. The one who permits it opened more options for me, because now I can separate and I can refrain from separating. The one who forbids says I can only refrain from separating. He removes the option of separating and therefore opens fewer options. Got it? Now look, test this: this is the definition of the concept leniency. The concept leniency means this. Except that when I have more options open before me, of course I can choose the one that is most pleasant for me among them. Like with a restaurant… you know, there’s a mathematical sentence that says that food in a kosher restaurant will be at most as tasty as in a non-kosher restaurant, or less. Less than or equal. Why? Because in a kosher restaurant there are more constraints, right? You want to make the tastiest food possible, but within the constraints of kashrut. A non-kosher restaurant doesn’t have the constraints of kashrut. So if the kosher food comes out tastier, then the non-kosher restaurant will make kosher food, because it’s tastier—it doesn’t care about making kosher food. But if the non-kosher food comes out tastier, then the non-kosher restaurant will make that, whereas the kosher restaurant won’t. Therefore, in a kosher restaurant the food will come out less than or equal in tastiness to a non-kosher restaurant. Point too good to be kosher—that’s already a mathematical phenomenon. Okay? Here too, in this context, the same thing. When I have several options that are all halakhically legitimate, then of course I’ll choose the one most convenient for me among them, and therefore usually leniency means doing what is convenient for me. But that’s not because leniency means more convenient; rather, leniency means that the convenient option is also legitimate. Consequently, I choose it. But that is only a result of the fact that there is a lenient ruling here; it is not the definition of a lenient ruling. Do you understand what I’m saying? Now when I speak, for example, about ‘in doubtful cases concerning blessings, be lenient,’ that really challenges this view. ‘In doubtful cases concerning blessings, be lenient’ means: don’t bless. But seemingly, if someone really wants to bless, then if you want to be lenient with him, you should tell him: okay, bless. Why does leniency always mean not blessing? Notice the explanation. ‘In doubtful cases concerning blessings, be lenient’ means: you may bless and you may refrain from blessing. That is called leniency. I’m opening both options for you. Except that once you can bless but can also refrain from blessing, there is the prohibition of ‘Do not take [God’s name in vain],’ yes, not to utter the name of God in vain. And therefore they tell you: the practical instruction is, don’t bless. The leniency in the laws of blessings really says there is no obligation to bless. You can bless and you can refrain from blessing. Except now it is not the laws of blessings that come in, but the laws of not taking God’s name in vain. And in the laws of not taking God’s name in vain, they tell you that if you can bless and can also refrain from blessing, you are forbidden to bless. But that is no longer a lenient ruling; that is a stringent ruling. The lenient ruling is only the ruling that essentially says: you can bless and you can refrain from blessing. After I ruled leniently in the laws of blessings, now there is another dilemma unrelated to the laws of blessings—a dilemma of uttering God’s name. And with regard to uttering God’s name, if you are not obligated, then you are forbidden. Here I am being stringent, not lenient. Therefore ‘in doubtful cases concerning blessings, be lenient’ means…

[Speaker F] Doesn’t it start the other way around—with doubt concerning blessings, that I am concerned about taking God’s name in vain, and therefore I am concerned about that prohibition and because of that I’m willing to give up enjoying this world without a blessing?

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] You can start wherever you want, but the logical way to start is what I said. Because ‘in doubtful cases concerning blessings, be lenient’ means that you may bless and may refrain from blessing—that is the leniency. After there are two options, the prohibition of taking God’s name in vain comes and says: if this blessing is unnecessary, meaning not obligatory, then you may not say it. But that is not in the laws of blessings at all; it is in the laws of taking God’s name in vain. Therefore in the laws of blessings I really am lenient, because I opened both options. It’s just that in this case—it’s like Yom Kippur. The same thing on Yom Kippur. Why is it that Beit HaLevi’s permitting you to fast two days is a leniency? Because Beit HaLevi says: you have one more option; fasting two days is also permitted. Except that now, in the laws of doubt, there is a rule that a Torah-level doubt is treated stringently. Meaning, if you can fast two days, then you must fast two days, because how else will you know which of the two days is Yom Kippur? But the obligation to fast is not connected to Beit HaLevi’s leniency. Beit HaLevi’s leniency is only the permission to fast. After there is permission to fast, the laws of doubt come and say that you are obligated to fast. But that is not the leniency. The leniency really is the permission to fast. And all of Beit HaLevi’s examples are leniencies, down to the last one. All seven examples of Beit HaLevi are lenient rulings. Except that these lenient rulings can now be intersected by the laws of taking God’s name in vain or the laws of doubt on Yom Kippur, and then they tell you: fine, if you have two options, then already choose the option that plays it safe and be stringent. But the stringency is not the instruction that comes from the lenient ruling. The lenient ruling remains as open options. After that, a stringency comes along and tells me what to decide, tells me what to do among the two.

[Speaker B] In practice, you didn’t really open another option for him. You opened another option in theory, but it immediately got closed because of some other reason.

[Rabbi Michael Abraham] This leniency is a leniency in theory; it’s a leniency in the laws of blessings. In the laws of blessings I am lenient, but afterward comes the stringency in the laws of “do not take [God’s name in vain].” That’s something else. I didn’t say that only the laws of blessings are involved in this ruling. Several aspects are involved in this ruling. In the laws of blessings, the rule is to be lenient; in the laws of “do not take [God’s name in vain],” the rule is to be stringent. Okay? Let me have just a few more minutes even though the time is up, because then I’ll finish this example. Look, there is a Talmudic passage in tractate Berakhot 54a. The Talmud there discusses the blessing of HaGomel, the blessing of thanksgiving. Right? The blessing of HaGomel, and the Talmud discusses there before what kind of forum it must be recited. One opinion says before ten. A second opinion says—Tosafot there says: we rule stringently, and therefore one also recites it with ten even without Torah scholars. All right? The Tosafot HaRosh says: we rule stringently, and therefore one recites it only with ten and two Torah scholars. So I didn’t understand—what is the stringency here? Is the stringency this way, or is the stringency that way? In the simple definition, who is being stringent here? Tosafot, not Tosafot HaRosh. Because Tosafot is basically saying: even if you have ten—well, it’s a question; really it’s unclear. If, say, I have ten and there are no Torah scholars among them, all right? Then in fact there are opinions that say you are forbidden to recite the blessing, because you need ten of whom two are Torah scholars, or ten plus two Torah scholars. Only according to one opinion can you recite it with ten ordinary people. So in fact there are halakhic opinions that say you may not recite the blessing. But the one who says it is forbidden is the stringent one, right? Which means that the one who permits reciting the blessing even in such a forum is lenient, right? And that’s what Tosafot says. More than that: Tosafot says that once I permit you to recite the blessing, then you are also obligated to recite it. Because after all, you are obligated to recite HaGomel, right? So if it is permitted to recite it in this forum as well, then recite it. So it’s not only permitted—it becomes obligatory, exactly like the case of doubt regarding blessings. Tosafot HaRosh says: we go stringently, and therefore one recites it only with ten plus two. What is the meaning of this? That is lenient, because what is Tosafot HaRosh really telling me? With ten, when I have ten ordinary people, do not recite the blessing. So that is lenient, not reciting the blessing; when we say in cases of doubt regarding blessings we are lenient, the meaning is not to recite the blessing. No. Tosafot HaRosh says that for him this is called stringency. Why is it stringency? It is stringency in the sense that he says: once you have a doubt whether to recite the blessing or not, and both options are open, then this is lenient—but I am stringent in the laws of “do not take [God’s name in vain].” Therefore, only if I have ten plus two Torah scholars may I recite the blessing. That is why it is stringency. It is not stringency in the laws of blessings; in the laws of blessings it is leniency. In the laws of “do not take [God’s name in vain]” it is stringency. And he calls that stringency. And Tosafot, when he speaks, is speaking about stringency in the laws of blessings. And for him, in the laws of blessings, you are obligated to recite the blessing even with ten. You do not have the option not to recite it with the ten. You must recite it with the ten. So he is stringent in the laws of blessings. So both of them call opposite things “stringency.” And the Tzelach there is left with the matter requiring analysis; he does not understand what they want. What is stringency? Is stringency like Tosafot, or is stringency like Tosafot HaRosh? And I claim that they are both right. Tosafot, who speaks about stringency, is speaking about stringency in the laws of blessings. And Tosafot HaRosh, who speaks about stringency, is speaking about stringency in the laws of “do not take [God’s name in vain].” Both are being stringent. The big question is why here we follow stringency in the laws of blessings when the rule is that in cases of doubt regarding blessings we are lenient. So here one has to say that since you have an obligation to recite the blessing, and now the only question is in what forum, then there you recite it in any forum that there is an opinion permitting. Because you have an obligation to recite it. In an ordinary case of doubt regarding blessings, it is unclear whether you have an obligation to recite a blessing, so in a case of doubt do not recite it. But here it is clear that you need to recite it, because you were saved from prison, or from illness, or from an accident, whatever it may be. You need to recite HaGomel. You have an obligation to recite the blessing. Now the whole question is only in what forum to recite it. So here they tell you: recite it in the minimal forum, because here you are obligated to recite it and the whole question is only whether you are exempt. “In cases of doubt regarding blessings we are lenient” applies when the question is whether you are obligated to recite a blessing, so if there is doubt, do not recite it. But that is less important for our purposes. What is important for our purposes is: what will the definition of stringency be? And you suddenly see opposite definitions of the concept of stringency. And the way I explain it, there is no problem at all; it’s clear. It’s clear because the question is whether you are speaking about stringency in the laws of blessings, or whether you are speaking about stringency in the laws of “do not take [God’s name in vain].” Both really are stringency; the only question is what you are talking about. So here again is another example of how conceptual analysis of the concept of leniency and stringency answers all kinds of difficulties that people run into because they haven’t analyzed the concept. Like the whole Beit HaLevi issue, like “in cases of doubt regarding blessings we are lenient.” When you ask people this, most people don’t think about these questions at all, but when they run into them, they just stare and don’t know what to do with them. I’ve tried this already in the past. The point is that people do not do conceptual analysis. When you do conceptual analysis, it often clarifies the picture in a remarkable way. Okay, we’ll stop here. That was the additional example. Does anyone want to comment or ask? More power to you. Okay, so we’ll stop here. Thank you very much.

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