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A Favorite Quote About Faith

Question

Sharing a favorite quote I just found in Nachmanides (Faith and Trust, chapter 18): 
 
"And every faith is knowledge by way of compelling proofs that force one to believe that it is so. And that which is received by word of mouth is called faith, and every faith requires knowledge; that is to say, that one should believe what one knows."

Answer

I'm not sure I fully understood. But thanks.

Discussion on Answer

Shimi (2020-01-29)

I'm also not fully sure about it. But it's clear from here that faith is not a mystical feeling. Faith equals knowledge. It seems to me that from here, faith is not conceived in relation to impossibilities or the unity of opposites. That's not knowledge in any sense.

Michi (2020-01-29)

Maybe. Although there are contradictions in his words, and it's hard to infer anything from a contradiction.

Aleph (2020-01-29)

Rabbi Michi, in your opinion are there places from which it sounds like Nachmanides believed that the Holy One, blessed be He, is beyond logic?! That's news to me. I'd be glad for quotations or sources.

Material on the topic 'The Holy One, blessed be He, and the laws of logic (2020-01-29)

With God's help, 3 Shevat 5780

A collection and analysis of the views of the medieval authorities (Rishonim) and later authorities (Acharonim), the philosophers and the kabbalists, on the topic of 'The Holy One, blessed be He, and the laws of logic'—in the book by Dr. Israel Netanel Rubin, What God Cannot Do, published by Reuven Mass. A review of it by Prof. Nadav Shnerb, 'To Create a Stone and Lift It,' on the MShabbat Supplement – Makor Rishon website.

Best regards, William M. Fitzgerald

Aleph (2020-01-30)

Nice. And there's no trace there of the position that Nachmanides believed in impossibilities.

Michi (2020-01-31)

Aleph, for some reason my reply to you doesn't appear here. I wrote to you that I'm not well-versed in Nachmanides, but there is no such thing as "beyond logic." So the claim that the Holy One, blessed be He, is beyond logic is completely unclear to me, and certainly I couldn't infer it from any statement of Nachmanides.

Michi (2020-01-31)

And I also referred to Rubin's book (and even suspected that he might be the one who wrote that message, as I vaguely recall. I no longer remember his screen name there).

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